I say this as an autistic trans person: I really don't think autistic people transition for the same reasons as neurotypicals. My entire life is an organized numbers game I'm basically a soulless robot. I don't even understand human emotions without faking them because my autistic ones are so alien that people think I'm weird if I show them. How can I understand what it's like to transition neurotypically, then?

Please elaborate. As someone who fakes emotions constantly but has no diagnosis this is of interest

>>40311893 (OP)
>I really don't think autistic people transition for the same reasons as neurotypicals
What's the difference?

>>40311893 (OP)
im an autist and i just have dysphoria

>>40311893 (OP)
>My entire life is an organized numbers game I'm basically a soulless robot. I don't even understand human emotions without faking them because my autistic ones are so alien that people think I'm weird if I show them
this doesn't sound like autism
>>40311913
autism isn't faking emotions, we have emotions and usually they're more observably intense than neurotypicals. Doctors have written about it for years. We simply aren't as expressive for subtle stuff, but we do have real genuine emotions

>>40311905
Okay so like I'm autistic as shit, right? I don't understand normal emotions or conversation pieces. Sarcasm confuses me and I take things literally. I don't laugh at jokes, because my sense of humor is autistic and only weird nonsensical autistic things make me laugh.
But if you let all that show as an autistic person, you're treated badly, especially as a kid, sometimes as an adult if you get labeled as "weird" or even worse "retarded". So to fit in and so autistic people can have jobs and girlfriends and houses and such and actually make it professionally, they "mask" emotions via mirroring people around them or brute force memorizing reactions. Eventually once you're good at masking you pass as neurotypical, and maybe even start to understand normal human emotions a bit and can laugh at jokes or feel empathy.
But deep inside you still feel like an autist and since you're only emulating emotions to get learned pattern approval from neurotypicals, it's all very numb and fake feeling and a bit soulless. You just want to play with trains. But society made you learn how to tell jokes you don't understand instead.

This is why autistic people come across as cold emotionless robots, rude assholes, or sometimes just creepy. Because they're an alien living on your world having to learn customs and practices that make no sense to them.

This all comes from autism having those parts of the brain malformed and other areas heightened.

>>40311925
Autistic people have atypical emotional reactions to different things as would provoke that level in a neurotypical. They're often more intense when they do happen, yes, but often the reasons for an emotional reaction from an autistic people are strange to neurotypicals.

>>40311925
No no I mean what are the different reasons for an autistic person transitioning vs a neurotypical person transitioning?

>>40311962
I clicked the wrong one sorry
>>40311905

>>40311962
I'm not really sure..... I just know neurotypicals say things about transition that I absolutely cannot relate to

This dude has real autism and not Gen Z autism goddamn that's rare lol

>>40311989
diagnosed at 4 years old and have 80 IQ and can say OP's description of autism is not real autism

>>40311982
What sort of things do they say that you do not relate to?

>>40312003
OP here I had a 70 iq in school and was almost put in special ed, diagnosed at 8. Brain has been CAT scanned due to unrelated medical issues a few years ago as well. I'm definitely autistic.

>>40312017
I never really got sad at the same things people say they got sad over that were dysphoria related. A lot of my dysphoria was more social related and wanting to be seen a certain way by the world.

>>40311893 (OP)
well whatever you do just don't add being a diaper transbian (read: faketrans) to your personality catalog

>>40312044
I'm asexual and don't be transphobic

>>40312030
i was put in special ed because of autism, 140iq
so unfair

>>40312051
>don't be transphobic
diaper trans and transbians are fucking disgusting as fuck and have set back queer civil rights by possibly decades
i say this as a man born with a penis that deeply loves my tranny girlfriend, she's not gross like those retards

>>40312076
Sounds like someones mad about their poopy diaper ʕっ•ᴥ•ʔっ

>>40312051
>asexual
Opinion DISCARDED you do not get a say in queer life, that's like an athiest trying to insert themselves into some church's goings on with their opinion on things, it's irrelevant.

>>40312084
lol fucking gross

>>40312089
I'm asexual because I've been raped by 9 separate people between the ages of 4-25. When I wasn't traumatized I was predominately gay.

>>40312099
you have trauma not asexuality
trauma doesn't make you queer

>>40312099
>9 people from 4-25
That's terrible anon

>>40312108
Trauma didn't make me gay my first kiss was a boy

>>40311893 (OP)
i agree halfway, I'm not autistic as i do have all those emotions, but transitioning was quite literally just knowing my dating pool will be bigger -> higher chance of meeting a guy that I like and who is interested in me
thats it. I love my bf now and everything worked exactly according to plan

>70 iq autist tranny gets raped everywhere she goes
Jesus

>>40311893 (OP)
>I really don't think autistic people transition for the same reasons as neurotypicals
Explain?

>>40312099
U know childhood trauma is assosiated with emotional blunting. Might be some comorbidites there

>>40312141
I don't even understand a knock knock joke how can I understand gender lol I just did it because it made me happy

>>40311942
that sounds more like a pop culture idea of psychopathic or schizotypal traits mixed in with autism
I'm autistic and yes I struggle to access my emotions in appropriate ways sometimes, but they're there, and I actually overcompensate by slowing way down so I can access them, because it's so important to me not to be insincere or robotic

>>40312040
So you're saying autist primarily have social dysphoria?

>>40312154
I was autistic before I was raped. I was a nonverbal child and also notably autistic when I eventually started speaking.

>>40312176
I think so. I think autistic people who desire female social roles learn how to achieve them. The same way I learned how to laugh at jokes.

>>40312157
ppl don't really understand knock knock jokes either, it just makes them happy
Ppl do most decisions like this you'll be shocked to learn. It's just some retarded logic fetishists lack the introspection to realize that they generally don't have solid reasons for doing what they do

>>40312194
So would you say these socially dysphoric autists get on hrt to better fit the social role, rather than having much physical dysphoria?

>>40312154
Autism isn't emotional bluntness. It's inappropiate, by neurotypical standards, emotional reactions and at the wrong time.

Autistic people end up emotionally blunt because they're punished by society to shut off their emotions e.g. the typical autistic meltdown scenario, or extreme happiness at autistic special interests, and also heavily incentivized to learn how to act neurotypically. But because the parts of your brain responsible for social interaction are literally malformed in autism, all you can really do is act out neurotypical expectations. You can never really truly feel emotionally the same as them. You react *differently* and to different things, which society doesn't understand.

>>40312211
I think so yeah. I think it's somewhat learned behavior in a way alot of autistic brains learn and overanalyze things.
"I desire to be treated a certain way" so you learn what society wants because it's all alien to you anyways, and you oblige.

>>40312072
126 tested once I went to university. I wasn't retarded but I was socially retarded. I also skewed the iq test by being in the top percentile of the population in certain areas, while other areas were as low as 60. The highs and lows balanced at 126.

But in primary school, I was just tested at 70 all around and labeled a retard until I learned to mask.

>>40312270
>while other areas were as low as 60
well if that other anon is any indication, take care to not trip and get raped randomly

>>40312256
Have you asked any autists if they experience physical dysphoria similar to the way neurotypicals experience it?
I'm not autistic but I have ADHD, I've definitely had more physical dysphoria than social role dysphoria. If any autists are around share experience pls

>>40312289
Oh huh i have adhd and almost only physical dysphoria. Idgaf about social stuff. Never occurred to me that could play into it

>>40312289
I think a lot of "autistic" trans girls have aspergers and not the dumb type of autism that I have. That distinction is no longer a thing though because the guy who coined aspergers was retranslated and learned to be a nazi eugenicist. So now aspergers is just called autism.
Before the distinction was lost, autism meant you were kinda really dumb

>>40312040
I have autism and adhd but I have mostly physical dysphoria.
>>40312176
Dude, retard, this is the experience of one person. It's like hearing npcs talk.
Having adhd or autism probably doesn't play into it.

>>40311893 (OP)
just know your apex to normies to whatever your calling is, you're going to crush at it in a way no normie can. and just absolutely shit on normies in your field.

also fuck em.

show them no mercy.

>>40312338
I'm OP and I think my autism made me trans, because how couldn't it? Autism is the wiring of my brain. My literal consciousness is shaped by it.

I don't think I would have been trans had I not been born autistic. I think autistic thinking predisposes someone towards having gender dysphoria, combined with the health issues it is comorbid with probably messing with your hormones a bit.
You do see higher rates of being trans in the autistic population. At the very least autism is comorbid with gender dysphoria.

>>40312358
You the man anon when they make autistic Israel I'll make sure u get citizenship

>>40312289
My resume:
>MtF
>Autism
>ADHD
>Depression/anxiety

My experience:
I have a mix of both physical and social, I think?

I'm not very dysphoric about my dick or my height (6'1"), but my body hair and facial features are a nightmare I can't wake up from. I will probably never see myself as anything but ugly, regardless of how often the people around me tell me I look good. Also, since I fully came out last month, I've been incredibly self-conscious about not taking enough steps to look more feminine (like I have to prove to everyone that I'm actually trying to be a woman and not just remaining the same and demanding people change how they refer to me). At least that's good motivation to work harder on voice training, start looking into new clothes, and enduring the pain of electrolysis every other week.

Specific day-to-day social stuff doesn't bother me that much; I just have a general ennui when referred to as a man that I didn't really feel until after I stopped repressing. It gets much more severe with regards to romance, though—I never felt like I was capable of it as a man. I can only see myself falling in love as a woman, if that makes sense (though I'm still probably going to live and die as a lonely ugly twinkhon because I've never liked any of the people that were into me). Getting on E made me want that romance a hell of a lot more, too; I've been fantasizing about the guy I'm into way too much recently and have had to try to tone it down because I know he'll never be into me.

>>40312338
Calm down it's not that serious I'm just seeing where OP is coming from

>>40312570
>I've been fantasizing about the guy I'm into way too much recently and have had to try to tone it down because I know he'll never be into me.

Tell me about him, I'm intrigued. Partly because I hope my own trans girlfriend never thinks that she's not good enough for me.

Autistic trannies confess your secret inner workings

>>40312570
>>40312602
reply pls

>>40312602
Well, we met via a mutual discord server that used to be my main online friend group (I've since left that one and joined the one this guy owns). We know what we both look like, but we haven't met IRL yet. We're actually going to in about a week and a half as part of a meetup for the previously-mentioned server he owns.

I feel like our personalities mesh really well together, and I think he's cute (a rarity since I'm kinda demisexual). He makes me laugh, and sometimes I even make him laugh, too. I get butterflies in my stomach when I imagine us falling for each other properly at this meetup (we both have the opinion that love over the internet isn't real until it's confirmed by getting together IRL).

My main reason for not thinking he'll be into me is that he fully identifies as gay and has mentioned not liking boobs or vagina much at all. I don't have to worry about the latter since I'm most likely not getting *the* surgery, but I do have (albeit small) boobs now. I even bought a cute swim suit to wear at his pool that I was hoping to get him to notice me with; kinda makes me wish he mentioned all that before I got it lol.

That paired with some other reasons makes it feel hopeless to me. Reasons like the fact that nobody I've ever had real feelings for has ever liked me back. And because I can tell I'm slowly getting to that point in the transition where I start to look like an uncanny freak. And that a lifetime of loneliness and withdrawing from the world around me because nobody liked me as a kid due to my autism has forced a withdrawn attachment style onto me that will make it very hard for me to both give and receive affection. I could go on and on picking apart every flaw I have.

(God I hope nobody in that server browses here; there's probably enough hints in this and my prior post for any of them to figure it out, and nobody knows I like this guy. I don't wanna ruin our friendship if he doesn't like me back :( )

>>40312800
Sorry, I was taking a while because I'm feeling verbose today lol

>>40312830
>>40312841
Ty for respond, I hope things go well for you anon.
Just do something for yourself and for him, if you two hit it off, don't be afraid to allow yourself to love freely, it's worse to look back at the "what could-have-been's" than the alternative. Attempt to shrug off some of those fears.

My trans gf is also traveling soon to my city for an event and I'm excited to see her. You're not her because there's no discord involved, but if you were her I'd tell her that I love her and I accept her no matter what.

>>40312289
I'm an autismo adhd boymoder and I do NOT believe in "social dysphoria". Gender dysphoria only manifests in a physical form and is more common among autistics because our brains are too interconnected or whatever. Calling a dysphoria social is just an excuse for neurotypicals to invade gendered spaces and be an optics nuke.

>>40312933
Thanks, I'll try. I could probably stand to be more hopeful about it; just because love hasn't found me before doesn't mean it never will

>>40312570
>Specific day-to-day social stuff doesn't bother me that much; I just have a general ennui when referred to as a man that I didn't really feel until after I stopped repressing. It gets much more severe with regards to romance, though—I never felt like I was capable of it as a man. I can only see myself falling in love as a woman, if that makes sense (though I'm still probably going to live and die as a lonely ugly twinkhon because I've never liked any of the people that were into me). Getting on E made me want that romance a hell of a lot more, too
Wow you're just like me

>>40313024
read up on the diagnostic criteria then nona. just because social dysphoria wasn't real for u doesn't mean that applies to every1 else i'm afraid
> t. autistranny