Thread 40320774

Why are zoomer men so chuddy and misogynistic? They either turn into andrew tate clones or troon out.

idk but i'm praying to fenrir and other pagan deities to smite their chuddy asses for disrespecting trans rights and bullying me for liking sonic

>>40320780
I'm sorry for bullying the black kid and the hapa kid in middle school. I would never ever ever do it again.

>>40320774 (OP)
meanwhile 100% of women hold sexist views but the mildest criticism of women by men is a national crisis, this kind of headline exposes female entitlement

good thing happening because normal

>>40320774 (OP)
They've been told that masculinity is toxic and young men have a tendency to be transgressive

Viola! Chuds.

And it was an unforced error on the part of the type that frequents this board, absolutely moronic messaging that has come home to roost.

>>40320774 (OP)
a newspaper would never even run an article about gen Z women having problematic views

fuck women

>>40320774 (OP)
Because corpos profit from getting people pissed off at each other instead of at them, so they boost culture war shit to prevent citizens from organizing to advocate for their well-being as they transform us into neo-feudal serfs

>>40320850
if that's true then why does dirt poor pakistan and ultra rich UAE do the le homopobic

>>40320795
>Viola! Chuds.
Voila

>>40320857
Dirt poor pakistan and UAE aren’t neo-feudal corpo states, they’re a developing islamic country and an islamic oil oligarchy respectively. To answer your question, they are religiously groomed into chud ideology by appealing to base male instincts. Corpos and their manosphere talking heads similarly appeal to these instincts in pursuit of their goals

>>40320774 (OP)
bc TikTok is a cognitohazard

Feminism for the overwhelming majority of women is simply complaining about men in their lives being a bit shit, shit dates, BF didn't take the trash out etc. Tate and all the other metrosexual faggots with a podcast provide the exact same service for men an outlet to kiki about women being a bit shit. Feminism and Tatism are functionally identically; podcast panel show, aggregator social media feeding a stream of ragebait, online chatrooms and pseudocommunities to minimally connect with others and piss and moan about day to day bullshit.

>>40320774 (OP)
Because their genX parents were too busy to raise them and there are no positive images of masculinity in mass media.

They grown up being bombarded with feminist screeching about how "men are misogynistic arseholes" and so now they're becoming adults they're accepting the role of misogynistic arsehole in order to be men.

The gender war is traumatizing our kids to punish our parents.

>>40320850
>>40320893
only worthwhile posts itt

>>40320893
>>40320850
inane leftist horseshit

>>40320960
kind of true except all followers of tate hate women much more than the average feminist hates men

there is a female equivalent to tatism but it's not feminism or even radical feminism. it's rare and difficult to find

>>40321043
Its not inane :c

And im not a leftist :c I just admire civilizations that have unity of purpose and put their resources to creating great public works :c

>>40321043
>all followers of tate hate women much more than the average feminist hates men
simply untrue, "kill all men" isn't even controversial discourse in feminism, saying that about women would get you arrested

>>40321215
It would not get you arrested, and the equivalent is calling for women to have their rights taken away so theyre dependent breeding slaves, which is their mean view

>>40321222
no, the equivalent of calling for all men to be killed is calling for all women to be killed
men have never had equal privileges to women so taking all our rights away is moot, feminists made a sport of depriving men of male spaces for most of the last century

A lot of gen Z men would rather be alone than with women

>>40321231
equivalent in that they are both unrealistic shitty fantasies of committing atrocious acts on fellow people. Except it actually happened to women historically so the male one is actually menacing

This shit is fucking stupid to fight over. Why are you debating this dumb shit. Why do I care? Why do you care? Get over it man

>>40320774 (OP)
Zoomer misogyny is a consequence of women's misandry going entirely unpunished and even encouraged by mainstream media, but feminists will refuse to accept any responsibility for the damage their libbed up "masculinity is inherently harmful" attitude has caused. If it doesn't fit their ideological framework where men are rigidly on top of the privilege pyramid and women always sit on the bottom, and thus men can only be victims of themselves, they will firmly reject any suggestion that gender dynamics could flip from historical norms into favorizing women at the expense of men.

>>40320790
TRVKE

>>40321043
>all followers of tate hate women much more than the average feminist hates men
Thus really isn't true, because the average follower of tate isn't calling for genocide against women or removing their bodily rights (killing children is not a right). Meanwhile feminism loves #killallmen and the draft universally and anyone short of that gets called a pick me and excluded from the ideology.

>>40321272
Feminism created the manosphere like America created ISIS.

>>40321322
>the average follower of tate isn't calling for genocide against women or removing their bodily rights (killing children is not a right)
Not very rare to hear conservatives say the 19th amendment was a mistake and women shouldn't vote, not sure about Tate people specifically.
>Meanwhile feminism loves #killallmen and the draft universally
Simply untrue, every single feminist I've met or seen online or offline is against the draft, and lots of feminists have always been like "Guys we need to be nicer to/more inclusive of men." That's why there was a focus on stuff like "Men repress their feelings and physical pain because of social repercussions to their masculinity" (toxic masculinity) and "Patriarchy hurts men, too!" and even into the mid 2010s this was the most popular state of feminism. I'd argue another kind of feminism (anti-porn, anti-sex work, against relationships with men, rejection of "male/female equality" in favor of "female liberation," much more hateful of men) has somewhat arisen as a reaction to increasingly violent porn and misogynist men. But most feminists aren't them, and fewer women identify as feminists in the first place nowadays.

>>40322378
I read allat

>>40322386
Good for you

>>40321336
mcAllahu ACKbar?

>>40321336
>>40321257
Messaging to men that they are inherently toxic was a mistake and you are unable to vocalize that.

That has come home to roost in a pretty profound way, thanks for fucking it up for the rest of us.

>>40320774 (OP)
I wonder why

>>40320774 (OP)
This is the country where Clementine Ford was allowed to be a mainstream social commentator for a decade and this is the result.

>>40322428
What's wrong with Clementine Ford? I hadn't heard of her until now, and I've only read her Wikipedia page.

Given the recent vocal preference for literal bears over a human man if stranded in a forest, I'm in no way surprised that gen Z has been radicalized.

>>40322444
If you don't understand why being mauled by a bear if preferable to interacting with the average m*le you're part of the problem.

>>40320774 (OP)
andrew is hot okay?

>>40320774 (OP)
cuz you have to be that way if you want to get laid as a man. Being even moderately left-leaning will make you a permavirgin that dies alone.

>>40322555
Why do cis men have skill issues with cis women? They're not hard to date and don't require all the chudiness.

>>40322621
South Korea would especially like to know

>>40320790
Can’t even say women b shoppin without being a heckin rw chud these days smfh

It’s almost like the 2010s was a decade

>>40322897
wait here’s a better resolution

>>40320774 (OP)
I made a youtube account for my nephew. The moment you set gender to male or start watching gaming videos, youtube starts suggesting you redpill content in a suspiciously pushy way. For all the chuds' screeching about muh feminist agenda, they are failing to notice the collar around their own necks.

>>40323412
Got any examples of channels or content you saw?

>>40323551
That was almost a year ago so I don't remember the exact videos. Generic stuff along the lines of
>game name is woke
>expert debates stooooopid female
>alpha male """philosophy"""
>pick up techniques
and so on. Imagine a 12 year old boy spending 6+ hours a day watching that shit.

>>40322428
>Clementine

Im so hungry

>>40323412
>>40322904

This is the same agenda by the system, none of it is organic

>>40320774 (OP)
why should i care im a tranny whatever if cis men and cis women are still in that gender wars bullshit gender roles and what else they're complaining about each other

>>40320774 (OP)
But why do they always cry about it to the gays? And why do they lack any shred of self-awareness and self-control?
Chud and loneliness culture is a choice, and those with self-control are eating good, because the competition has chosen to self-terminate.

>>40323647
Chuds fail to grasp the obvious.
>be good person = good people like to be around you
>be shitty person = shitty people like to be around you
>be annoying person = nobody likes to be around you
The only self-professed rightoid chud I've known irl either scared off or pumped and dumped every decent-ish girl in his life and married a woman that is exactly the way he sees women: vain, stupid, face caked in makeup, etc. She is a gold digger and cheated on him twice in two years.

Chuds are a product of a cycle of victimhood narratives and are the flip side of the coin to feminists.

Algorithms select for doom loops and is the cause of the "red-pill" slant.

If you'd like for there to be less chuds, advocate for more 3rd spaces and restrain any and all rhetoric that disparages on the basis of gender and/or sex, and yes that includes men.

Ultimately, class is the superlative category in western society and the woke/anti-woke discussion is pure distraction.

>>40323754
Feminism came out of genuine oppression and treating women as second class citizens. Chudism came out of the consequences of a choice to spend their time consuming porn, playing video games, getting addicted to MMOs, and worshiping influencers. Algorithm just reinforces choices already made. It's a little too different to be on any side of the same coin.
Both sides just has an aesthetic appeal if you ignore all of the facts.

>>40320774 (OP)

There's no place for the average man this days. So it's no wonder why, a lot of them just give up.

>>40323827
>Feminism came out of genuine oppression and treating women as second class citizens. Chudism came out of the consequences of a choice to spend their time consuming porn
B-but my favorite video game has a gay romance option now, it's worse than forced marriage, financial slavery, and murder.

>>40323837
>There's no place for the average man this days
go outside
and it's "these days"

>>40323847
But enough about male oppression

>>40323827
I don't have any desire to defend chuds, they aren't a coherent group and much of what they claim is utter horseshit. I'll just say that these imagined slights have some legitimate issues mixed in, and the chudification of gen Z and gen alpha is happening a little too quickly for more liking. Maybe drop the term "toxic masculinity" from the lexicon? Or something?

>>40323847
Swiping left on the guy in a cum stained Warcraft t-shirt is just like keeping women out of universities.

>>40323916
The problem with the term "toxic masculinity" is a linguistic one. Since most people are dumb as fuck, they think it's about masculinity being toxic, when in reality it's about the KIND of masculinity that is toxic, i. e. beating up your son for being too sensitive. Toxic femininity is a thing as well, and just as malicious.

>>40320774 (OP)
>andrew tate clone that trooned out
how fucked am i?

>>40323916
Yeah the term "toxic masculinity" used by a tiny fraction of people did this not literally everything else of their own choosing.
The only way this works is if everyone agrees they belong to a subgroup of humans that can't think for themselves and need re-education. Since our society is based on individualism and the belief in free will, they're kinda fucked.

>>40323948
If a term is generating confusion and misunderstanding to the point that it obfuscates more than it clarifies when used, the term ought to die. It's what mouth breathing retards point to when they make asinine claims about the left hating men.

>>40323995
True, but the sentiment behind it is spot on.

>>40324015
Yes, and it doesn't matter.

>>40320774 (OP)
Feminism is simply a supremacist movement and Gen Z knows it and we are tired of women using the system against us to take everything away. Its like when people fight against White Supremacy or Patriarchy. Well now its this Crypto-Matriarchy happening in every system to fight against. Whether that be education, most teachers women, 90% administration women, at work with 90% HR staff women, college admin, who are our general managers today maybe 55-60% women. I am sorry but you will never convince me that many not MOST but many MTF is because they are trying to survive in a matriarchy. Its like in Y The Last Man when there were a few men left but they transitioned to be able to have a actual life without oppression. It really happened today. Feminism teaches that its only "balancing the scales" that every system is rigged against men/boys, the legal system especially. Because supposedly men had all the power for 2000 years. Well they also had all the pain and war too. Except women want all the power with none of the pain or risk. Why because history classes never teach both sides and ALL have agendas. They teach about genocide or white supremacy but never about how say for example, the average African lives ridiculously better as an American or that there was never a true genocide of Natives and nearly all of them killed by disease of unintended consequences. So also to this end is feminism saying Male Oppression, nope, this was based on men having muscles women don't. In The Bible women are equal to men but different and you become "One Flesh" but feminists swear Christianity oppressed women. The British have had Queens that controlled their nation at times. So what we see is a history that is bent to serve a narrative that Supremacists push to convince men to allow to be dominated through guilt. Now Gen Z is waking up and its worrying the elites, they attack us with words like 'incel'. We can't let that happen and need equality so FIGHT BACK!

>>40323995
It's not confusing though. We should not degrade society to be more comprehensible to the dumbest moron. They fixate on it because they're being told that it and other phrases and words mean things they don't. Instead you fix the people lying to get political momentum.

>it's all womens fault
Lol and they will continue to not get pussy

>>40324030
YOUR POST KINDA TURNS ME ON NGL

>>40324025
I was literally agreeing with you.

>>40324030
LMAOOOOO

>>40324030
Tldr
Noticed something about Africa toward the middle. Is this about blacked porn?

>>40324031
While the dumbest moron has a vote you absolutely should ditch academic terms that, however useful and precise, confuse and push away morons. It sucks but while the GOP is metastisizing into the SS it's necessary.

>>40324054
Yeah my bad. I'm snarky.

>>40323847
>>40323863
>>40323922
Chuds have collectively decided that straight romances with not-sufficiently attractive woman are an even worse sin, somehow.

The trend is toward increasing radicalization, so I'd imagine that in a few more years the bare minimum will be head sized tits, jiggle physics, and a hip width that precludes running in order to meet muster.

>>40324147
They are worse than the most rabid yaoi fans.

>>40324072
>because they can vote you should lobotomize society
>but don't address political charlatans
Good luck with that. The whole world is already watching with glee as the US gives up its intellectual leader role. We're just waiting to see which country will emerge as the new global research hub. All to protect the feelings of morons and the bottom line of pundits.

>>40324197
There will not be a new global research hub because it is still being fractured as we speak. It will take upward of a decade and in that time China will supplant the US in every relevant category.

Your mistake is assuming there is a rebound at all.

>>40324147
Chuds would sooner play gooner gatcha games and korean MMOs then have to suffer through the indignity of playing a game with a coherent story and themes with depth. The incentivization structures that milk these morons are so fucking dystopic.

>>40324230
>it won't happen
>but it will be China
I mean you already answered it yourself, the century of Chinese prosperity is upon us. It also solves the chud problem, just send them to the farms to be re-educated.
>Your mistake is assuming there is a rebound at all.
Your mistake is assuming a lot of assumptions. Ought it to be such a way and is that the best course? No, but you say yes, but only for political expedience. Which means nothing when you throw society into the trash heap.

>>40320774 (OP)
>Andrew Tate manosphere bros and troons are two sides of the same coin
We're so close to having a breakthrough here. It's always been patriarchy all the way down, both sides hate women except one side more insidiously disguises its misogynists in twirly dresses. They pose the immediate danger

>>40320774 (OP)
The real answer is long and complex but basically it comes down to alienation. Socially, physically, spiritually and economically.
The ladder has been pulled up by previous generations of men, there are no real role models which is something men need to thrive, all challenge is meaningless struggle, masculinity has been vilified and usurped by a parody of itself, and the expectations for men, especially economically, are decades out of date compared to their opportunities.
This whole "manosphere" cope misunderstands a fundamental aspect of the issue and feeds into it. You can laugh at the people falling for the snake oil salesman all you want, if you don't understand why they're succeeding then you're equally as clueless as the people who are buying their shit.

>>40322378
Women are the ones that like violent porn

>>40320774 (OP)
I grew up around girls and never hated them. Almost all my friends were females. Then trooned out.

>>40324311
>omg women MAKE me jerk off to hardcore painal midget gangbang videos
>and did you know women spend millions buying porn from onlyfans prostitutes??
>this is why 99% of porn websites cater to women btw
>crazy, right?

>>40324345
>zoomer men
Sweetie you're not a man nor have you ever been one. Trannyism is an intersex brain condition.

>>40324349
1) onlyfans is cringe
2) i'm not ableist to people with dwarfism
3) anal isn't "violence" and anyone who says this is a turbonormie pearl clutcher
4) the number of porn sites is irrelevant when 90% of content is on like 3 sites
5) erotica has plenty of edgy stuff and just isn't counted as porn
6) i'm a girl and i like guro

>>40324349
I've unironically been seeing this cope from zoomer men.

>>40324349
Since when is onlyfans violent?

>>40324376
>>40324410
ESL or brain damaged from all the gooning?

>>40324358
still being a chud before trooning is pretty common

>>40320774 (OP)
Because 99% of zoomer women are rabid misandrists.

>>40324609
on average they love men more than men love them. if we're talking your garden variety tik toker, she is daydreaming about guys 24/7 and her non-sexual role models are mostly male. the inverse doesn't hold true for chuddy men, for them it's only sex and they seem to be physically incapable of seeing a woman as inspirational.

>>40324656
They love a select few men where the attraction overrides the misandry. When these men don't love them back they go and take it out on the other 95% of men.

>>40323827
you have the right to vote to start wars that only men have to get killed in

>>40324741
I didn't vote for Trump

>>40324788
a lot of women did

>>40324830
A lot of men did too, and the anti-woke MGTOW crowd overwhelmingly supported Trump. It's okay to be wrong, anon. As long as you learn from your mistakes.

>>40324841
>anti woke redpillers being retards makes me wrong

>>40320774 (OP)
its women's fault for not giving them sex

>>40324846
>i reply to a post about feminism stemming from genuine oppression by bringing up the women's right to vote and how it's le bad
>but i'm not a rightoid redpiller
????

>>40324904
yes, women having the right to vote is bad if someone else has to suffer the consequences of their vote. equal rights, equal obligations.

>>40320774 (OP)
I don’t car

>>40324930
the problem is women can't fight, so they can never suffer the consequence of the vote.

one solution: if men get drafted into war, women get drafted into brothels for the soldiers to enjoy before they go off to die. if you vote for a war, you might not die in battle but you're gonna get raped cunts.

>>40324933
>men kill themselves because how society treats them
i sleep
>men kill women because how society treats them
REAL SHIT

>>40323827
Why do people think these shallow gestures at video games and other popular entertainment makes them smart? As if evil is just a problem of individual media consumption and the real solution is to be super ideological lol

>>40324942
>the problem is women can't fight, so they can never suffer the consequence of the vote.
??? it's not the middle ages anymore. you pick up a gun, point it, and pull the trigger. "god made mankind but john brown made them equal"
>one solution: if men get drafted into war, women get drafted into brothels for the soldiers to enjoy before they go off to die. if you vote for a war, you might not die in battle but you're gonna get raped cunts.
whatever counts as a real deterrent

>>40324955
john brown? lol, john browning

>>40324943
Men never needed a reason to kill women or take their mantrums out on them, your take isn’t that special.

>>40324955
oh right, where are all the women in frontline combat then?
women are laughably shit at fighting even with huge technological advantage.

>>40324986
>>oh right, where are all the women in frontline combat then?
staying home fucking jodys

>>40324978
yeah i'm sure the incels who write 100 page manifestos then commit suicide by going on shooting sprees were doing it just for the heck of it

>>40324846
>Here are different societal obligations for different groups
>But I didn't vote for x political party!
>???????????????????????
NTA but you are incredibly stupid. The argument doesn't matter who you voted for, men are expected to answer conscription and women are not.

>>40324942
>you're gonna get raped cunts
male moment, (You) specifically shouldn't be trusted around politics

>>40324986
something something, women make babies for future wars

>>40324999
replied to the wrong person?

>>40324989
to be fair it's not just that women are shit, it's that no western public could deal with seeing their female troops raped live on television, so all armies keep women out of danger

>>40325005
female privilege moment, it's okay for men to die but not for women to be raped
if you're going to let women vote to put men in harm's way, it's only fair to force the women to have skin in the game, isn't it?
maybe we can't force you to die in the war you voted to start but we can turn you into a sex slave, and you definitely won't like that.

>>40324997
i've read several shooter manifestos. it's all insane drivel. they are mentally ill.

>>40325024
well mental illness isn't entirely genetics

>>40325020
>more deranged sex fantasies
Just like in that hentai manga. I'm sure there will be a few spots for male sex slaves, you'll fit right in.

>>40325043
>I'm sure there will be a few spots for male sex slaves, you'll fit right in.
hothothothothothot
imagine being gangbanged by a platoon of men who are all sweaty after a long day in the desert sun
giwtwm

>>40325043
i'm just saying, next time feminists go around giving white feathers out to shame men into dying in two feet of mud, they should spent a few months shackled to a bed encountering more dick than a team of urologists.

>>40325069
i admire your dedication to cock, but hornygen is that way

>>40325069
Why do you see dick as some kind of apocalyptic threat? Are you seriously threatening people with... sex?

>>40324656
They love chad you mean

>>40320774 (OP)
The thing is it's not even just straight men. This board is just as much as part of the misogynist wave as anywhere else.

>>40324656
When's the last time any man ever saw an effeminate gay men as inspirational? A bottom as inspirational or respectable? Femininity is a universally hated thing, by both men as well as women. Of course no one's going to see someone they view as sexually attractive as inspirational or even a person, because the way sex is used now is to dehumanize, often towards competitors.

>>40324147
>>40324179
>You're either on team "make everything ugly" or "team chud"!

For one thing we're falsely conflating different groups of people. Most /pol/tards obviously think all porn and masturbation is degenerate. And it's just silly that the thing that causes the biggest meltdown is just "oh no this game has anime characters that men find attractive, there's not even any rape or murder in it!"

>>40324954
>why do you ALL FEMINISM IS ANITA SARKEESIAN
I don't, simple.

>>40320774 (OP)
desu i think the anti-simp culture is pretty based. women shouldn't want special treatment from men either.
it's also true that women are way more sexist and it's accepted by the mainstream.