https://vocaroo.com/
record your voice for fun or feedback :)

•Tool for visualizing pitch and resonance
https://acousticgender.space/

▶ Resources MTF:
--- Full MTF Course ---
•L's Guide
https://www.reddit.com/r/transvoice/comments/d3clhe/ls_voice_training_guide_level_1_for_mtf/

•Google Doc
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gLIOxG9Oq8Ncs1z-c1uvHAgZ43bYGuwdJtLQrQ9EyDg/

•Supplement L's guide with...
False Folds:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdsaPJdU24s
•Vocal Fold Thickness:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PNnBRBfOVY&t=146s
--- Larynx Stuff ---
•Whisper Siren:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6Noi2qERus

•General overview/swallow and hold method:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6ro2R3esHA
https://youtu.be/tbGcAdETQIE?si=Gt3GpxUzbeeMeYkV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWWevU4A5mU

•Big dog/small dog:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mx4dPWKVt9o

▶ Resources FTM:
---
•http://www.radical-musicology.org.uk/2008/Constansis.htm
•https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24155064
•https://pastebin.com/CCw9czC0

hi friends
i need feedback more on my reading than my voice i think lol:
https://voca.ro/1kEM9hVgkRF4

like day 1 of trying the swallow hold thingy
https://voca.ro/1fISt1knIRCF
i think im doing the exercise correctly but its kinda hard to open my throat up and project while im holding the position. any advice?

Should I revise my old OP or just abandon it when I post and go back to the classic here?
Doesn't matter either way just wanna know what ppl prefer

>>40327396
i hear a male voice but not a particularly masculine one. the swallow-and-hold thing is really just meant to help you understand how your larynx moves and where. once you learn how to manipulate it on your own, you can quit the swallowing and just raise it; your throat will be a lot less constricted that way :)
>>40327434
i have not been here in a long time so i have not seen you post really but i liked your approach yesterday! i think a mix of both is nice but putting the old paste in a post below the op sounded like a good idea.

https://voca.ro/19BsKuTmbVFf need advice idk how to fix this

>>40327396 good start try speaking from the front of your mouth like an impression of someone from new zealand

>>40326743 u sound so good oml i couldn't think of a single thing that clocked you

none pass

is there a vtg discord?

>>40327725
>fix this
what do you want to fix? i think the brightness of your voice is entering nasal territory, so you could maybe move the sound down a little lower (so to speak), but i am not sure what you are concerned about specifically..
>>40328888
pitifully squandered digits :(
>>40328931
not that i am aware of but that may be a good idea since nobody wants to post here lole

midnight bump

Reading once again but feel tired af my eyes are closing and ugh
https://voca.ro/19BsKuTmbVFf
My muscles still aren't used to those high pitches they need to bootstrap harder but I feel like I have more and more endurance at least
>>40326743
Good reading voice, don't see any issue. It's flatter than some audiobooks maybe but I don't like audiobooks lol
>>40327396
yeah like that other anon said swallow and hold isn't great but it's a good way to see how those muscles engage
>>40327725
nasal voices are often seen as annoying so I'd fix that but plenty of women have nasal voices lol

>>40332577
https://vocaroo.com/1iRevGCrloK4

oops copied the wrong vocaroo it was >>40327725*s
lol

btw I think maybe having namefagging ott would be nice to follow who is who and how they are progressing? might be halfway to having a discord which I personally don't fancy cuz I don't wanna make an "anonymous" discord disparate from my other one

https://voca.ro/1bugf3Qu4alr
If anyone has advice on sounding less faggy I would love you forever, I'm trying to work on breath control but I don't know how to translate that to the actual tone of my voice

>>40332905
comment on others' voices first. only talking about yourself is how threads die and we aren't paid to give you advice.

>>40332915
I'm aware I'm just getting mine in before I commute. I don't expect comments, I mostly use this as a reason to record my voice, since otherwise I'm uncomfortable doing so

>>40332952
np! just make sure to link your post when you do so.

>>40326592 (OP)
https://voca.ro/19Nf0dMPSbiz

>>40333034
a fag

>>40333034
>>40332915

>>40333048
https://voca.ro/1ecHAy6KzD5C

>>40333073
I don't knoe shit about voice training so i have nothing to comment on :P

>>40333088
>i cannot tell if a voice is masculine or feminine
lol.

>>40333107
Stop playing dumb im here to have fun m8.

Does the larynx-raise method get better over time? Where does progress come from?
I can pull off Spongebob-voice well (roughly 15% pitch increase without manually raising pitch, according to Audacity) - where does one go from here? I keep having these "low undertones" - how to apply highpass filter to my voice?

>>40327396
https://voca.ro/19f6QhYFJ9GK
>>40327725
https://voca.ro/16wdRuWeFaTE
>>40332588
https://voca.ro/1fkRIW6yGFGA
not responding to people who didn't respond to others because that's lame

>>40332577
>flatter than some audiobooks maybe but I don't like audiobooks lol
ha i wanted to read because i have been listening to an audiobook lately..ty nona i will work on my intonation for next time
as for your voice, i think it could have a little more weight to it. i can't place exactly what it is you should change when i listen, but your voice sounds to me as though it is hovering over the ground dragging its feet as it floats along instead of walking on its own, as it were. i have no idea how else to put that and i'm sorry
i also like the idea of having names! i may just set one on a thread-by-thread basis
>>40332905
it is the nasality what is killing you at the moment, i think. try to raise your resonance a bit and lower your larynx if your throat feels constricted.
>>40333034
male, maybe a little congested
>>40333114
that's all fine but even a "you sound good" or "you sound like shit" can provide useful perspective :)
>>40333174
https://voca.ro/12VROSVBpMh8
tl;dl it does not get better! it is just an exercise to help you find a starting point
if this is unhelpful i will try to find another way to explain :)

>>40333308
>https://voca.ro/12VROSVBpMh8
Thank you so much for the long and detailed response! I indeed am not doing swallow-and-hold though, I am raising my larynx just like that. I don't know why, but I have always had that ability, didn't need to learn it.
My issue is that the "highest it goes" right now is the spongebob-level and i was curious if it will get higher through practice, enabling me to reach higher pitch. And no we didn't talk before, this is my first time commenting here.

>>40333294
I WAS SPEAKING ENGLISH lmao I can't
It's just me reading Judith Butler
But obviously lol don't listen to all of it it's my practice sessions! Maybe I should make specific vocaroos for the thread instead of posting random shit

>>40333174
well you get used to having it higher after a while. but it requires regular practice.
don't forget about voice size too!

>>40333308
you're welcome bookanon!
>as for your voice, i think it could have a little more weight to it. i can't place exactly what it is you should change when i listen, but your voice sounds to me as though it is hovering over the ground dragging its feet as it floats along instead of walking on its own, as it were. i have no idea how else to put that and i'm sorry
Yeah I totally see what you mean! it's a side effect of my reading practices really being hard focused on achieving highest pitch and resonance I can as more a muscle practice than an usable voice. But since I want to get that high (or be able to speak at that height at least) it is required to go through that I think

>>40333487
>I WAS SPEAKING ENGLISH lmao I can't
with that knowledge I was able to listen back and ALMOST understand it! your accent is very cute, I think I just don't hear french accents often enough to parse sorry :(

>>40333517
Thanks don't worry it is extremely common with Americans specifically! It's funny because I do not live in France and thus only speak to non-French people and have no issues being understood (by other non Anglos or Brits) lol
Maybe it's specifically those vocaroos I don't enunciate well and speak super flat because I'm focusing on other stuff (and like speaking flatter)
and thanks <3

>>40333438
nona i'm not sure how i invented your talking about doing swallow-and-hold. sorry lol. anyways in that case if you sound like SpongeBob your throat is too constricted! which is an easy thing to fix :)
https://voca.ro/1cIgLxVH2uB5
it probably won't sound perfect at first (or for a while) because everyone's voice is different, but hopefully that is helpful <3
>>40333487
>it is required to go through that I think
possibly! i have always had a lower voice so i'm not super knowledgeable abt speaking at the top of your register....good luck nona !

>>40333575
>https://voca.ro/1cIgLxVH2uB5
wow. thank you. so, so much.
it worked! I was applying a lot of "force" there.

>>40326592 (OP)
https://vocaroo.com/1f7tNuFjxlvN

idk what to do next, have done L's guide. i feel like i still sound off/faggy, need advice

>>40326743
nah that's a good female voice ygmi

>>40327396
I would recommend not using the swallow and hold, do the silent H sound. There is a good TransVoiceLessons video about it, called something like meta resonance. But you are off to a great start

>>40327725
It's a bit too monotone, try varying pitch accross both sentences and words. I think it's good otherwise

>>40332905
One of two things: Either you are speaking with too much nasality, or you are speaking with a very high amount of AES (aryepiglottic sphincter) iirc.
Also work on having a lighter, more breathy (higher) open quotient.

>40333034
fagvoice.


lmk if anyone want clarification

>>40333575
https://voca.ro/11c0v7Yqslca
Here's my best attempt at following this - can I ask you to review it? (warning: i am a bit sneezy right now)

>>40333877
>off/faggy
brainworms, nona, you sound great :)
>>40333930
you certainly do sound a little stuffy but that is a huge difference!! i'm not sure where exactly to tell you to go from here, but i think you sounded best when you started talking about pitch variation (0:23)
good job :)

>>40334130
Still blissed out over the jump in progress - all thanks to you! This would've taken me weeks to figure out alone - and I felt stuck/plateaued at where I was. Now, that realization set an impulse regarding the what direction to follow now - I am noticing that there is a lot of practice to get the larynx up but not put strain on my voice - and I will be working on that!

BTW you have such a beautiful voice! Hoping to sound like you, one day!

>>40332905
This is me
>>40326743
Nice book choice my bf loves Pynchon (I've only read that first chapter of GR), and great voice, very slightly androgynous
>>40327725
You probably have my same problem of too much nasality or constricting the larynx too much I suppose? Also maybe work on speaking at different volumes you're currently shouting the bible at me lol
>>40332588
You sound really good, I'd just work on confidence and speaking slower

>>40333877
ignore how bad my voice sounds right now I'm sick
https://voca.ro/11hY6e2s6L0o
>>40335153
https://voca.ro/1l4qWsv8BpdT

>>40328931
>is there a vtg discord?
>>40328971
oh, well someone should make one..

>>40334178
i'm so glad !! good for you, nona :) i hope you have an easier time from here on <3
and thank you lol. but maybe stick to sounding like yourself, since anon below thinks i sound andro ;ppp
>>40335153
>Nice book choice
ty lole it is my first of his books and i just started reading it a few days ago. some of the most oblique prose i have ever read but so far super fun. your bf has good taste
>very slightly androgynous
is there anything about it that you can pick out? i am not sure i care so much about slight androgyny so it is ok if not but it would nice to have the awareness

>>40333877
You sound great, I don’t notice anything you need to improve
>>40332905
For nasal voices open quotient are airflow are what you want to focus on. L’s guide has some stuff on it. An exercise I’ve done for airflow is working on exhaling as quick as I can without making sound and then I start talking and adjust.

Here is my voice https://voca.ro/1eenmaBpMsqk please tell me how I can change my voice to make it sound more natural or even just sound better or more attractive/appealing. I’d love any advice, I want to sound the best I can. Exercise recommendations are extra appreciated

>>40335400
ty nona for the advice :)
your voice is fine dw ^^

>>40335400
>>40336175
Very very helpful advice I'll work on that stuff :)
>>40336000
I think it's just a pitch thing, not an issue really if you present female

>>40337437
>just a pitch thing
mm that makes sense :) i used to speak higher but i like where my voice is at now. ty nona

>>40326592 (OP)
Is the thread still active? If I'd send my voice could people lend me some help? I wanna know other people's opinion

>>40338131
I can tell you if you sound like a fag

bump!

>>40336175
https://voca.ro/1239e7ioHIKD

bump