Thread 40332622 - /lgbt/ [Archived: 534 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/9/2025, 3:14:21 PM No.40332622
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Why don't you trannies just accept yourselves as who you truly are ?

Genuine question

I know " it's not that easy " but i want to know why it's so hard
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Jannies tongue my anus
7/9/2025, 3:18:25 PM No.40332646
>>40332622 (OP)
you believe so
?
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Sunset !!xKFbZoChTlJ
7/9/2025, 3:19:48 PM No.40332655
>>40332622 (OP)
I did, that's why I'm transitioning. Obviously
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 3:20:03 PM No.40332656
>>40332646

What do i believe

I don't get the question
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 3:24:34 PM No.40332680
>>40332655

I meant what you truly are, not what you think you want to be
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 3:24:59 PM No.40332685
>>40332622 (OP)
There's way more well-earned social credit from admitting the transphobia gets to you when it does.
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Sunset !!xKFbZoChTlJ
7/9/2025, 3:25:52 PM No.40332691
>>40332680
That's exactly what I meant too.
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 3:25:54 PM No.40332692
I accept everything
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 3:28:27 PM No.40332708
>>40332685

How so ?
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 3:29:35 PM No.40332716
>>40332622 (OP)
>>40332680
What's wrong with trying to better yourself and your look?
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 3:31:34 PM No.40332732
>>40332622 (OP)
im a massively submissive gay man who likes femininity in myself. it makes the most sense to capture it how i can and stay as feminine as i can. transitioning does that. updating my legal documents and passing protects it from ne'er do gooders.
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 3:34:33 PM No.40332751
>>40332716

Better yourself ?

Go on, i'd like to know more
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 3:38:44 PM No.40332785
>>40332732

I don't get the last part, why do you need to be a woman ?

Also, answer me that question please, but what is feminity to you ?
Nico Haru
7/9/2025, 5:01:14 PM No.40333290
>>40332622 (OP)
Welcome to another episode of "Cis person with no dysphoria thinking they solved the dysphoria conflict of every trans person", episode #8603

Fr tho, we just don't choose to be that way. It's something you either live through. In essence, imagine all of a sudden someone forces you to live and look like the opposite gender you always have identified with, but with the body of the biological sex you have rn. Even if you said that you would be able to tolerate it, it's not like you would love the idea of being forced to do it.

The thing is, your biological sex (which is not even black and white and binary at all) is not responsable for why you feel in your soul and heart that you are the gender you are, you just happen to somewhat identify with the one they might have assigned to you when you were born and probably never really questioned about it. But some don't identify, cause there is a gap of what our body actually is and the correlations that society set between biology and gender roles. That's why stuff like "makeup" is considered a girl thing when in reality there is no biological correlation between "makeup" and being "female".

So as much people say that "you were born a man, be a man" the only thing that is objective is that "you were born with a set of sex chromosomes" and that might not even be one of the most common ones. Any other statement that says "you should wear this type of clothing, act this way, have this body features" is just an act of professing what you believe to be "the right way", a mere statement of faith. Accepting yourself is to reflect on what you perceive to be the most genuine version of you, and not to force yourself to live by the script others expect you live because some XX or XY exist in your DNA
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 5:04:54 PM No.40333318
>>40332622 (OP)
I did, just because you donโ€™t accept who I truly am isnโ€™t my problem
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 5:06:11 PM No.40333331
>>40332622 (OP)
Why dont you cissoids accept us as who we truly are?
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 5:15:32 PM No.40333401
>>40332622 (OP)
i did, i accepted i'm a tranny. you're the one whose refusing to accept shit
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 5:23:00 PM No.40333468
>>40333290

Yeah but if i become a girl tomorrow i'd be okay with it, i wouldn't destroy my physique with surgeries and all just for an ideal body i honestly don't care much about

That and the whole thing about being offended by my own gender, like literally that's what i don't get

I do personally believe your gender shapes your thoughts in some degree, not black and white either if you ask me

So it really is all about gender roles, is that what you're telling me ?

My initial point was just for trans people to accept who they truly are, not as a person, but more like, just accept they're born the way they are, and not pretending to be someone else just to access something that, in my opinion, can be accessed too while keeping your gender identity

I really don't get why a nigga should be cutting his boobs and be called a man or vice versa to feel happy in life

The way you act, dress or whatever, really shouldn't be a problem, no matter your gender

It's more or less just a technical matter to me, sure being X or Y will affect you in many ways, but pretending it doesn't is really not productive in the slightest

Like, to truly be fine with yourself, you gotta accept your nature, and all of the downsides that come with it, the rest is just delusion to me

Kinda like all those people pretending to be different people, it's just not sane at all, and creates / emphasizes those gender roles you're talking about
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 5:27:54 PM No.40333508
>>40333468
if i woke up as a cis girl tomorrow i'd get phalloplasty to get my dick back
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 5:36:23 PM No.40333562
>>40333468
Honestly way top much pooners look and act like onions faggots for me to believe in your rambling but i am basically an ftm version of a transmaxxer to have a valid opinion in this. I do think gender dysphoria exists (mostly because of the amount of gnc trans) , but its not as common as the amount of transgender nowdays
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 5:38:21 PM No.40333571
i envy cis women for the ability to present in a feminine way without being seen as some freakish thing
> feminine man sucks
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 5:39:30 PM No.40333576
>>40332622 (OP)
If I donโ€™t kill myself soon Iโ€™ll probably end up quitting hrt and getting strong, hrt is bullshit anyway
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 5:41:15 PM No.40333588
>>40333468
Imagine if your body randomly decided to turn you into an esteogenized faggot with a broken dick and retards online were telling you to accept yourself
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 5:41:45 PM No.40333591
>>40333508
dood what happened to ur arm
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 5:44:18 PM No.40333608
because they have too much internalized homophobia to accept being gay
and being a woman means their attraction to men is now normal
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 5:45:52 PM No.40333620
>>40333508

But why ?

You're aware it's only going to introduce problems, right ?
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 5:47:21 PM No.40333627
>>40333608
as homophobic as it may be: YES, this is the narrative I most strongly associate with.
When presented with the choice, who would prefer to be an effeminate hyperfag over a cis woman? Who, seriously, and why?
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 5:48:09 PM No.40333633
>>40333588

Broken dick ?
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 5:49:08 PM No.40333640
>>40333627
someone who realizes that its other people hating you for being gay, and not a problem with your own body, but with the minds of those refusing to accept who you really are
its ok to be gay without taking estrogen
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 5:49:52 PM No.40333649
>>40333640
>its ok to be gay without estrogen
no it's not. Your community knows that and strongly rejects any "twink" over 19 years old
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 5:51:02 PM No.40333657
>>40333627

I'd prefer to be the fag honestly, and i'd ask you the same, who, seriously, and why would you choose necessarily to be a girl ?

And on top of it all, this is biaised because as a male you'll never be a woman, trooning out will only introduce health issues and a slew of identity issues too, which has to be taken into account with these shit dilemmas
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 5:53:13 PM No.40333673
>>40333640
Yeah I still agree with u and I tried for sooo long trust me, but my internalized homophobia is rooted in childhood trauma from when I was seven years old. I can't overcome it as hard as I try. I LOVE men, but I can't be a gay man. I wish I could, it would make everything so much easier
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 5:54:25 PM No.40333684
>>40333673
I don't get why the solution isn't trying to work through your trauma instead of changing your body so you feel less guilty and shameful for being gay.

There's no wrong way to be an estrogenless gay man.
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 5:55:18 PM No.40333688
>>40333657
are you a faggot though? are you into men and secretly want to get fucked in the ass and whince while a big man with dilating pupils is dripping sweat on your chest and extending your intestines? can you see that seeing that desire in yourself is hard to accept?
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 5:56:19 PM No.40333693
>>40333684
what if it's my way to work through the trauma?
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 5:57:42 PM No.40333703
>>40333693
it isn't working through its just denying that others were the problem and self harming yourself to cope
obviously other people don't want you to be gay and are happier with your libido nuked or you wouldn't be doing this
what you really want is to be accepted for being gay and that won't happen if everyone gives into pressure and castrates themselves when they get bullied too hard for being gay
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 5:58:34 PM No.40333709
>>40333620
spite
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 6:01:04 PM No.40333726
>>40333688

I was with gay men, straight women and FtMs, so i think i i'm more or less pansexual, i guess

But i definetely can't understand it would be hard to accept, i mean, some women like that too, it's not the end of the world if a dude is into that, no ?
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BlackKnight
7/9/2025, 6:03:53 PM No.40333755
>>40332622 (OP)
>Why don't you trannies just accept yourselves as who you truly are ?
You know that this is literally the stupidest argument to make, right?

At what point is somebody being their truthful self?
Are tattoos out of the question?
Piercings?
Hair dye?
How about socio-economic and racial grounds?
Is a poor black man meant to remain poor?

Instead of people assuming they are lying, why not ask clarification/confirmation?
Are you...?
Why do you feel...?
What are your ambitions...?
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 6:04:54 PM No.40333764
>>40333755
black people should return to Africa, all of them
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 6:07:24 PM No.40333783
>>40333703
>waah waah anything past brainwashing yourself by """therapy""" or taking lobotomy medication is self harm
nigga get a grip
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 6:08:30 PM No.40333796
>>40333703
what I want doesn't matter... i simply compare the odds of me, passing as a woman when holding hands with a man in public, to the odds of everyone around me suddenly becoming accepting of gay people (and most importantly myself suddenly accepting it after more than two decades of trying to do so). in my case the former seems much more likely than the latter.
> your libido nuked
this is a weird rumour btw... i wouldn't say I have less libido than before HRT, I just don't have to touch myself anymore to experience sexual relief. Sometimes just the thought of sex is 100x more arousing, intense and pleasureable than masturbating before HRT.
>>40333726
if this were irl i would say
> b but I have le dysphoria
in this anonymous manner I simply have to say I think you are less traumatized and/or much more sexually open than me. I'm 23 and basically a virgin. I want to find one man to stay with for the rest of my life. I'm definitely not a whore and I would never do pornography or prostitute myself.
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 6:08:53 PM No.40333800
>>40333703
i wasnt bullied for being gay. i was tormented for it by religion and family. kys pedophile. no more teenage twinks for you on grindr LOL
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 6:09:09 PM No.40333805
>>40333783
therapy is a scam
I mean socializing with other gay people and actually TALKING about your trauma instead of bottling it up inside
tranny is about sort of sublimating your homophobia and instead of getting revenge on those who have actually wronged you for being gay, blaming your own body and then making your life a quest to gain this bimbo idea of slutty female body = happiness
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 6:10:32 PM No.40333816
>>40333800
the entire goal and purpose of religion is to harass gays
we need to fight back, not give in to those who hate us for being same sex attracted
> no more teenage twinks for you on grindr LOL
this would be more effective if trannies didn't daily avatarfag for years with pictures of animated 9 year old little girls
im not into twinks but that doesn't really matter anyways, you are trying to co-opt female shaming tactics as a man and that's itself shameful
BlackKnight
7/9/2025, 6:11:06 PM No.40333821
>>40333764
>Back to Africa
I disagree.
Unfortunately, I am an individualist, not one that puts community above all.
With that in mind, there are people that can't speak the language, never been, can't name half of the nations within Africa as a whole and probably don't have any connection to any of the African nations outside of a great, great, great, great grandfather.
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 6:11:35 PM No.40333826
>>40332622 (OP)
Go to repgen and see a bunch of people who have done that.

You could reframe the question as: "Why not take the better path that your parents support and become a doctor or engineer instead of following your passion, obsession, and dream since you were a child of becoming an actor? You'd make more money and your parents would accept it, ect, ect."

The answer is because it makes the person miserable.

Don't believe me? Go to repgen and lurk.
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 6:13:18 PM No.40333842
>>40333805
> getting revenge on those who have actually wronged you for being gay
I don't want to get revenge I'm not a fighter like that. I want to have my little stupid life where things are alright and I have healed to a level where I can be happy with how things are day-to-day.
I don't wanna politically campaign or anything - other people are much more suited for that.
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 6:14:36 PM No.40333855
>>40333755

Yeah but if you're broke you can be rich, technically speaking

If you're a man, you'll stay a man no matter how hard you try, same for girls

It's the equivalent of Instagrammers renting supercars to make pictures of themselves to make them feel the high life despite having a negative bank balance

Sure, maybe they are happier this way, but it'll stay fake, and it will have consequences on their lives, the first being aware that they're not truly rich, it creates a precarious state of mind, it's not healthy

Also, my opinion is that tattoos piercings and hair dye are a health hazard, and that yeah, hurting your own body just for the swag is kinda ass, but whatever makes you happy i suppose, i just can't understand it
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 6:16:34 PM No.40333876
>Why don't you trannies just accept yourselves as who you truly are ?
What do people even mean by this? Don't most trannies already accept their sex assigned at birth?
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 6:16:48 PM No.40333878
>>40332622 (OP)
i accept myself as the tranny that i am
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 6:17:27 PM No.40333884
>>40333842
you CANT get revenge
that's the whole point
women are the ones who organize the bullying of gays and they are socially untouchable
so you blame yourself because that's all you can do to cope and nobody is sympathetic to your suffering because well autists are anti social anyways
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 6:18:47 PM No.40333893
>>40333855
>...i just can't understand it
and it seems that u still won't. don't bother...
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 6:18:47 PM No.40333894
>>40333796

Maybe, yeah

But still, do you really believe trooning out is easier to do than just accept being a faggot ?

In your instance, it's like using glue or scotch instead of reframing your whole psyche with bolts and screws

PS : It's not the end of the world if you're 23 and virgin, my 2 exes were virgins before they turned 26
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 6:21:25 PM No.40333919
>>40333826

What is repgen ?

I'm not a local, sorry

>"Why not take the better path that your parents support and become a doctor or engineer instead of following your passion, obsession, and dream since you were a child of becoming an actor? You'd make more money and your parents would accept it, ect, ect."

Well because i'm a lazy ass and i don't want to do that, and i'm not able to do that, kinda like a nigga is not able to be a man or a woman out of free will, i just settle for reality, nothing more, nothing less

If reality means being treated like shit by my parents, then so be it, but it'll give me the right answers to solve the true problems of life
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 6:23:37 PM No.40333943
>>40333805
>socializing with other gay people
sorry i dont want to interact with grids and pederasts
meeting faggots made me unironically homophobic
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 6:24:39 PM No.40333949
>>40333876

What i personally meant by this is like ..... Not trooning out

Not playing that game that only pushedms a nigga to have mental issues for the rest of their lives

Like, half of the answers here are related to dsyphoria ( Which i can't understand, sorry ), or sexuality

For sexuality, literally just pick up your courage and embrace what you want to be

Like deadass, changing gender just to fuck dudes, that's like, crazy work, to me
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 6:27:43 PM No.40333982
>>40333884
but what point are u trying to make? If I "detrans" I'm still gonna do laser, get ffs, wear jewelry, speak in a high-pitched fagcent and do other fem things. Without HRT I'd only have to work harder on the things I wanna change and get no perceived benefit in return. So I might as well keep transitioning, right?
>>40333894
No matter what anyone on this board tells you: Trooning out isn't THAT hard... I was a solopreneur before and that was way harder honestly.
The only thing that sucks a bit is the isolation but I think it's just the early stages and for me it's a result of really sitting down for the first time in my life and working through my trauma and reconciling with the past.
My life is objectively FAR better transitioning than not already and it's only been a few months.
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 6:30:59 PM No.40334011
>>40333982

>No matter what anyone on this board tells you: Trooning out isn't THAT hard

Well it's certainly harder than actually accepting being a faggot, imo

Like, on a daily basis too, it would crush my mind, personally

>My life is objectively FAR better transitioning than not already and it's only been a few months.

And why is that ?
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 6:31:02 PM No.40334014
>>40333468
>Yeah but if i become a girl tomorrow i'd be okay with it
Whenever we play this thought experiment I don't really get how cis people can go up to a trans person who actually has lived experience as both sexes/genders/whatever and is telling them "bro it's a big deal trust me". And then they're just like, "nah I'm built different, if my gender was swapped I wouldn't care." Like the person you are talking to has the closest example to literally living that and is giving you their personal testimony and you just are like nah you're wrong tho. Like you don't have to accept what they are saying completely but it just seems so silly to completely discount it.
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 6:33:02 PM No.40334037
>>40333982
you seriously think im against you talking in a fagcent?
im saying you don't have to change your body to justify being gay

>>40334011
people hate gay men and want them to castrate themselves, so they treat you better once they can sense you are castrated and no longer threaten them with your unwanted sexuality
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 6:34:07 PM No.40334046
>>40334011
because, pseudowokie, people are never going to accept feminine characteristics on a man, and thats okay. Homosexuality in the amounts we currently have is defective, and everyone internally recognizes naturally feminine males or masculine females as individuals that shouldnt breed (or arent even able to anyway). No amount of screeching about "muh fag rights" is going to change it. And feminine facial characteristics look way better on a more feminine frame, don't you think?
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 6:35:12 PM No.40334054
>>40334046
Transitioning doesn't give you a feminine frame, though
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 6:38:33 PM No.40334075
>>40334014

Honestly, i think it's all about the obsession on gender

Like nigga i could point out a thousands ways you're living wrong, car, computer, finances and so on, and you'd probably say that i'm right on every single point

But you'd end your answer with " But i don't really care about it ", because you're just not sensitive to these issues, probably

If gender is a big ass issue to you, it makes sense you'd weigh the positives and negatives on a daily basis

But me and a billion others nigga we just do with what we have, period
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 6:38:48 PM No.40334077
>>40334054
it makes your behavior more docile, and robs you of enjoyment of your sexuality - and that's what women want for gay men
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 6:39:36 PM No.40334085
>>40334037

Maybe in the middle east, i'd have a hard time believeing it in occidental countries
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 6:41:21 PM No.40334100
>>40334046

>people are never going to accept feminine characteristics on a man

Not my case, but go on, tell us why ?

>and that's okay

And why is that ?

>Homosexuality in the amounts we currently have is defective, and everyone internally recognizes naturally feminine males or masculine females as individuals that shouldnt breed (or arent even able to anyway).

Are you aware evolution and happiness are not meant for eachother, right ?
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 6:42:04 PM No.40334106
>>40334011
> Well it's certainly harder than actually accepting being a faggot, imo. Like, on a daily basis too, it would crush my mind, personally
well see then this is your sign you're not trans. Transitioning is just a series of decisions you make. It's a feeling and a way of expressing myself that just feels so RIGHT, so natural, so innate to my being.
> And why is that ?
read above, it gives me the ability to allow myself to present and act and feel how I've always wanted to. The restlessness is gone, I can focus, I have purpose in life, I'm more down to earth... Things I always tried and wanted to be but never could (because of testosterone).
>>40334037
>im saying you don't have to change your body to justify being gay
thank you but I want to change my body because I don't like how it looks
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 6:42:07 PM No.40334107
OP is retard
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 6:43:19 PM No.40334119
>>40334106

>Things I always tried and wanted to be but never could (because of testosterone).

What ?
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 6:44:45 PM No.40334135
>>40334100
nta but i think its because women are predisposed to seek out masculine characteristics and be repulsed by undermasculinizated or feminized potential mates, as they most likely wont give her healthy children or any at all.
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 6:46:23 PM No.40334140
>>40334100
reddit. spacing.
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 6:47:43 PM No.40334152
>>40332622 (OP)
I try to but it's hard to accept yourself when every time you see your reflection it makes you wanna cry.
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 6:51:08 PM No.40334188
>>40334119
testosterone was like a hot needle piercing into my eyeballs. i felt like i had no control over my body or my emotions. every action was dictated by this throbbing energy that was burning my body out every second i was alive.
i wanted to just chill but I couldn't. i had to constantly medicate and downregulate myself. on estrogen all of this happens naturally. i have become who I always wanted to be.
biochemical dypshoria is a real thing.
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BlackKnight
7/9/2025, 6:51:32 PM No.40334193
>>40333855
>If you're a man, you'll stay a man no matter how hard you try, same for girls

But there are many trans people (not all, there ARE some nutjobs) that don't believe they will BECOME male/female, but that they would just like to live, and be perceived as the gender they align with.
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 6:55:35 PM No.40334230
fucking hell, just sage and report the thread retarded tourist will just ask why why why just like a stupid child and still dismiss whatever we say.
op. go back
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 6:59:04 PM No.40334257
>>40334193

No, that i understand

But isn't it a form of submission to gender roles and society as a whole ?

>>40334188

Damn, so it pushed you to be who you wanted to be, exclusively that way ?

So it's kinda like a drug ?

And why does it seems to be the case for some, but not for the majority of them ?
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 7:00:37 PM No.40334276
>>40334230

God forbid a nigga is curious and doesn't change his mindset for the first argument thrown at his face

No fucking wonder this is a hivemind if you're never digging deeper than a few posts to understand shit
Replies: >>40334422
BlackKnight
7/9/2025, 7:07:27 PM No.40334323
>>40334257
>But isn't it a form of submission to gender roles and society as a whole ?
No.

Don't get me wrong, I am an expert on absolutely nothing to do with trans issues except telling them in passgen that none shall pass.

However, the human body is not a "gender role" or a "social construct", but it is the BODY, that most trans people have an issue with.
Not whether they are allowed to wear a dress and cook dinner or not.
Which is why it is the BODY that they want to change, not simply where they buy their clothes.
Replies: >>40334346 >>40334358
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 7:07:59 PM No.40334329
>>40334257
> Damn, so it pushed you to be who you wanted to be, exclusively that way ?
yeah, kinda...
> So it's kinda like a drug ?
it. very. much. so. is.
this is coming from someone who has dabbled a lot in substances. estrogen is the drug i was always looking for. it's kinda a combination of cbd and microdosed mdma... like this very smooth and light, long-lasting empathogen that just makes it fun to yap with people and have a good time and you're kinda just floating and existing in the moment.
(of course you have to be resilient enough to manage the increased emotionality also in tough times and not start cutting your body up, but luckily I am so sometimes I just cry and even that feels good)
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 7:09:43 PM No.40334335
why do you insert a space before the question mark, ESL?
Replies: >>40334359
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 7:11:02 PM No.40334344
>>40334135
you can be nice to feminine men without getting impregnated by them
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 7:11:27 PM No.40334346
>>40334323

>Not whether they are allowed to wear a dress and cook dinner or not.

Well i thought that was half of what you were implying

Also what some of the people in this thread have been saying too

But why changing their body if it still doesn't seem to change much at the end of the day ?
Replies: >>40334390
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 7:13:01 PM No.40334358
>>40334323
meh, the whole body thing is very /tttt/ specific. there are MANY non-wormed trans people out there that came out at 12 or 13 and simply don't care that their bodies are a bit more in the direction of their birth sex, but do the best with what their given. i don't think these these ppl are 'faketrans' or any less valid than a suibaiting, histrionic 4chan bpdemon.
Replies: >>40334405
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 7:13:16 PM No.40334359
>>40334335

Autism most likely, it looks flush and all

It's not really a Reddit thing unlike what most of you 4channers like to think, in fact, all of my accounts are IP banned on Reddit for the past years

No, i just think it looks good, and makes it easier to read :3
BlackKnight
7/9/2025, 7:16:44 PM No.40334390
>>40334346
>But why changing their body if it still doesn't seem to change much at the end of the day ?
>>40334193
>they would just like to live, and be perceived as the gender they align with.

How is anyone, no matter how considerate they are, going to perceive you as a woman if you are 200lb of pure muscle, hairier than a grizzly bear, and have a voice like Morgan Freeman?
Replies: >>40334415 >>40334437
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 7:17:22 PM No.40334395
>>40332622 (OP)
Why don't women accept themselves as they are without all that makeup and plastic surgery and weight loss and hair treatment and skin treatment and shit?
Replies: >>40334424 >>40334437
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 7:18:20 PM No.40334405
>>40334358
continuing:
like, what we're doing here is obviously just fembrained looksmaxxing. if you cannot see it for that, don't take distance from it and have low self-esteem you just get your average hikineetmaxxing manmoder.
> touch some grass ppl!
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 7:19:34 PM No.40334415
>>40334390

Well, some natural out of factory women are

I'd definetely be able to at least, that's not what the definition of a women is in my book
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 7:21:00 PM No.40334422
>>40334276
>hivemind
>literally repeats arguments and is like a brick wall when presented with contrarguments
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 7:21:03 PM No.40334424
>>40334395

Good ass question to be honest

Weight loss although is normal imo, it's not sane having 100 kilos on a daily basis

But yeah the ones almost getting anorexic just to look like models, completely crazy stuff
Replies: >>40334454
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 7:22:46 PM No.40334437
>>40334390
> if you are 200lb of pure muscle, hairier than a grizzly bear, and have a voice like Morgan Freeman
no 4chan tranny looks like this. We all just wanna be pretty women and have fallen for this
>>40334395
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 7:24:17 PM No.40334454
>>40334424
It's because accepting yourself as you are is BULLSHIT that ugly feminists came up with to hobble the competition. Everyone wants to be better. Everyone wants to be hotter. Life is a competition.
Replies: >>40334459 >>40334463
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 7:25:32 PM No.40334459
>>40334454
that's the spirit stacy. ygmi!
Replies: >>40334511
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 7:25:45 PM No.40334463
>>40334454
feminists hate men
castrating yourself doesn't make you better than other gay people, it makes you a cowardly traitor betraying your own kind for the sake of female power over all of us
Replies: >>40335772
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 7:26:47 PM No.40334473
>>40332622 (OP)
If it was up to me Iโ€™d shed this flesh form immediately, it writhes, wriggles, disgusts me. To be as I truly am is to forgo the flesh entirely as physicality is a lie from the demiurge, he created sex and the misery in my tomb that creates life, only to caste out another screaming prison of blood and viscera upon this shell of a world. Itโ€™s soo much harder than you could ever comes to terms with as you feel the flowers coming to consume the grandest part of existence, never knowing true freedom of flesh
Replies: >>40334486 >>40334511
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 7:28:14 PM No.40334486
>>40334473
yeah and we got the schizos
> god do I love the schizos please never leave
Replies: >>40334546
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 7:30:36 PM No.40334511
>>40334459
I'm not kidding when I say that judicious plastic surgery and weight loss treatment is the best investment you can make in happiness per dollar. If you're ugly, fucking fix it. I think trannies got this one right.

>>40334473
Feminists don't hate men. Feminists hate prettier women, their competition. Ugly feminists claim to hate men in order to get pretty women to make themselves uglier and increase their own chances. Feminism is literally a whole psyop by ugly women to crab bucket pretty women.
Replies: >>40334526 >>40334543 >>40334546 >>40334573
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 7:32:30 PM No.40334526
>>40334511
> If you're ugly, fucking fix it. I think trannies got this one right.
sure, I wasn't even disagreeing or being sarcastic I wanna dollmaxx.
Replies: >>40334533
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 7:33:45 PM No.40334533
>>40334526
Based dollmaxxer wagmi
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 7:35:34 PM No.40334543
>>40334511
not how happiness works
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 7:35:46 PM No.40334546
>>40334486
Y A L D A B A O T H
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>>40334511
Feminists donโ€™t know that the divinity in femininity is a corrupted loss of masculinity
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 7:39:53 PM No.40334573
>>40334511
feminists hate men
Replies: >>40334598
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 7:43:19 PM No.40334598
>>40334573
if feminists really hated men they'd stop having us. just abort all male children. a third of women are feminists, why wouldn't they do that?
they don't hate men, they see nearly all of us as slaves or nonentities. you don't hate your slaves, you just complain about them to other slave owners.
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 7:48:22 PM No.40334660
>>40332622 (OP)
I accept myself as a tranny, that's what I am. I don't hold any pretense that I'm a woman but masculinity feels fake and performative to me and men make fun of me for being too effeminate and don't accept me in their man club so I'm happy to just accept being a kind of third gender ladyboy thing and I wish that was the narrative western tranners pushed instead of le real women crap that makes people want to Minecraft us.
Replies: >>40335008
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 7:48:30 PM No.40334662
>>40333949
Well what do you want to hear lol what answer would satisfy you
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 7:52:12 PM No.40334690
>>40332622 (OP)
it literally doesnt work that way if toure dysphoric. it eat at your very essence and your sanity. its not rational an no medicine helps with it. no therapy helps you pretend like its ok to be your natal sex. youre just deluding yourself into thinking youre normal and youre not. you are never going to be normal if you have gender dysphoria, its always there nomatter how you can or cannot repress it.

you end up a husk whether you repress it and fail or indulge it and fail. the only cure is indulging it and succeeding.
Replies: >>40335016
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 7:57:32 PM No.40334739
Radfems will say they hate men, but when they encounter trannies they wax poetic about why they should be men and women can't be tall or strong or smart. Like all that which they fight for flies out the window when they see people forgo manhood, I think it's spite or envy more than anything, like they reject their femininity because they can't comprehend why someone wouldn't want to be a man.
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 8:04:33 PM No.40334823
>>40332622 (OP)
Because gender dysphoria is real and it doesn't go away with time, in fact, it gets worse with time, I wonder where gender dysphoria comes from but it's not voluntary.
Replies: >>40334894
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 8:11:12 PM No.40334894
>>40334823
I think there may be some truth to the trans brain studies, but also, I don't think it's the whole of it, I think there may be some genetic factors too, probably behavioral and environmental influences too, maybe people with some androgynous features are more likely to have their body image get wired up all wrong too, it's probably a combination of all these things.
Replies: >>40335003 >>40337952
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 8:21:02 PM No.40335003
>>40334894
>maybe people with some androgynous features are more likely to have their body image get wired up all wrong too
This would explain why there's so many trannies in Asia, there's too much androgyny and too little sexual dimorphism.
Replies: >>40337923
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 8:21:23 PM No.40335008
>>40334660
waow based i'm taking this view i think
> t. western tranny
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 8:21:40 PM No.40335016
>>40334690
And others notice it too, they realize you are different and won't let you live normally even if you try, they'd go as far as outing you even if you had already decided to repress.
sage
7/9/2025, 9:29:01 PM No.40335772
>>40334463
>it makes you a cowardly traitor betraying your own kind for the sake of female power over all of us
fucking retarded incel bullshit.
what fucking female power????
>uuugh you are born male, so you must have extreme loyalty towards other males
go back to /r9k/ you'll find company there.
Replies: >>40336896 >>40337923
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 11:26:22 PM No.40336896
>>40335772
females control society
that's why women don't get drafted to fight wars
Replies: >>40337880
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 11:59:46 PM No.40337257
>>40332622 (OP)
i dont want to be a man
Mulatto Grell Sutcliff !!EGHB2Nq62mX
7/10/2025, 12:06:26 AM No.40337308
>>40332622 (OP)
My brother in Christ, there's nothing to accept. This is the way my brain was from day 1
what's so hard to grasp abt that? u did it for the gays
>>40333290
well said, or if we wanna do a cool TLDR https://youtu.be/KMhL9NZ0Kdw
Replies: >>40337921
Mulatto Grell Sutcliff !!EGHB2Nq62mX
7/10/2025, 1:08:18 AM No.40337880
Flameshot_2025-07-09_T19-07
Flameshot_2025-07-09_T19-07
md5: 7ac9949ce2caae542358416f82b4d400๐Ÿ”
>>40336896
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 1:14:23 AM No.40337921
>>40337308
>there's nothing to accept
being gay
Replies: >>40337941
Mulatto Grell Sutcliff !!EGHB2Nq62mX
7/10/2025, 1:15:09 AM No.40337923
>>40335003
nah, this is dumb. humans are animals sure, but not like this
>>40335772
if there was female power, we'd know the names of every woman rosie the riveter was meant to represent
ppl barely know Margaret Hamilton, and she among others was directly to thank for the tech that got US astronauts on the moon. men are such fucking ingrates i stg
to every man with sense. past or present, i want to thank you for helping your kin on this earth
Mulatto Grell Sutcliff !!EGHB2Nq62mX
7/10/2025, 1:17:29 AM No.40337941
>>40337921
nigga i'm fucking bisexual. i've been done with that shit since i was 16
YOUR gayness is yours to deal with, i'm not your projector
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 1:18:38 AM No.40337952
>>40334894
>maybe people with some androgynous features are more likely to have their body image get wired up all wrong too
isn't the simpler hypothesis is that there's no such thing as a miswired body image and that feminine men tend to troon out opportunistically
Replies: >>40337965
Mulatto Grell Sutcliff !!EGHB2Nq62mX
7/10/2025, 1:19:48 AM No.40337965
>>40337952
source: my ass
at least be honest if ur gonna say bs
Replies: >>40337984
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 1:21:10 AM No.40337984
65d64a87f4224-3399756306
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md5: ffae94377c55a6d2c80ab1efb7a27db5๐Ÿ”
>>40337965
reddit brained
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 1:35:36 AM No.40338138
20250708_041230_0000~2
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md5: 7518ff7a72f57ac52fb3b3851dc89f2f๐Ÿ”
>>40332622 (OP)
Because forcing myself to perform the social role of "man" makes me reel in disgust and causes me to be a gross alcoholic to cope...Literally would rather "pretend" to be a woman any day over continuing to be absolutely miserable being a man. I'm the happiest I've ever been.
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 1:52:03 AM No.40338360
1751841408020421
1751841408020421
md5: 9d0e0506e5d510ef57785841210eb83f๐Ÿ”
>>40332622 (OP)
I am cis female. My dick does not prevent me from being female and never will. I accept myself completely.
Replies: >>40338446
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 2:00:04 AM No.40338446
>>40338360
Based
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 2:00:49 AM No.40338456
lilpumpkinpastie-20250430_103046-494475640_1077817227463655_4437331790153565253_n
>>40332622 (OP)
I trust you'd say this to a fat person too?
I DO love myself. that's why i try
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 2:04:20 AM No.40338496
>>40332622 (OP)
they do. that's why they transition. accepting themselves as they truly are
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 2:04:28 AM No.40338501
>>40332622 (OP)
>>40332680
I can accept myself as what I truly am, a gynandromorphic eunuch that looks female. I could not accept living as I was pre-troon, because the effects of testosterone on my body caused me constant visceral disgust.
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 2:06:55 AM No.40338529
>>40332622 (OP)
does does it mean to "fw" you