is there any point to trooning out if you're going to end up ugly? like you're throwing away all your male privilege just to become a sex object with no sex appeal.
what's the point
i'd rather just rope desu

>>40335384 (OP)
> t. non-dysphoric

>>40335384 (OP)
where im at rn.

>>40335384 (OP)
>male privilege

>>40335384 (OP)
ohhhhhh of course it was a repper behind these posts. you guys really should be banned.

>>40335394
i'm dysphoric because i'm not hot
>>40335414
i'm not a repper just a gigahon

>>40335425
> i'm dysphoric because i'm not hot
that's not dysphoria that's just life for 90% of people desu

>>40335436
no only normal people get dysmorphia
when a tranny has it it's dysphoria

>>40335458
nah she's probably agp. not yet appealing to her own male gaze enough makes her dysphoric, because she doesn't just want to be a woman, she wants to see herself and think 'Fuck I'm hot I'd fuck that chick'

>>40335504
all trannies are agp

>>40335520
how could you be if you're not into women?

>>40335529
you don't have to be attracted to women to be agp

>>40335384 (OP)
Do you really?

>>40335504
Projection lol

>>40335581
really what

>>40335542
> tell me you are retarded without telling me you are retarded
yes you do. agp is a paraphilic form of gynephilia. if you're not attracted to women how can you be attracted to a female version of yourself?

>>40335595
>if you're not attracted to women how can you be attracted to a female version of yourself?
well every tranny who looks at themselves and thinks they can do better has some form of attraction towards themselves but besides that agp is just short for tranny thoughts that's all it is really

>>40335529
>>40335595
>Blanchtard spouting garbage despite never actually having read him
If you actually read any of the literature you'd know that, according to him and his followers, it's considered a target acquisition error and doesn't really entail true gynephilia.

>>40335619
Nta but youre arguing that women only groom themselves for the male gaze which is flat out wrong and you should shut the fuck up

>>40335619
so you're saying everyone who takes care of themselves and wants to look good is autosexual, got it. sounds retarded tho. hsts and agps are two clusters of tranny with very distinctly different traits and pre-transition histories.
> agp is just short for tranny thoughts
no that's actually gender dysphoria

>>40335651
what
where did i say that
>>40335664
>so you're saying everyone who takes care of themselves and wants to look good is autosexual
no only trannies do
>no that's actually gender dysphoria
same thing

>>40335642
> target acquisition error
well it doesn't matter whether you hit or not if the target is female you're gynephilic. you can't just put "true" in front of words to justify your mental gymnastics.

>>40335384 (OP)
...so youre literally just transphobic and misogynistic but youre transitioning anyway not out of any real dysphoria but out of agp (and its turning you into a "gigahon")
yes, anon. you should just rope.

>>40335684
>>40335504
God youre retarded

>>40335684
> no only trannies do
got it! so if I'm a crusty trannybeast that can supply mcdonalds for a whole year with the grease in my hair, I'm more trutrans than the doll who uses rose water to clean her hands after going to the toilet. (retarded)
> same thing
no actually not please consult the dsm

>>40335733
attractiveness and cleanliness have nothing to do with how trutrans you are

>>40335720
yes I am. sometimes I take the blanchardist side, sometimes I take the wokie side in these arguments.
People get riled up either way

>>40335756
You should talk to a therapist about why you think this is a valid use of your time

>>40335689
>well it doesn't matter whether you hit or not if the target is female you're gynephilic.
That's besides the point you retard. It doesn't matter if a target ``hits'' the whole point is that the loci of desire is turned inwards. Again, it's clear you've never read any of this and are just spouting garbage you've read in posts and vids you've probably seen on youtube you fucking cretin.
>you can't just put "true" in front of words to justify your mental gymnastics.
The point is that it's trying to account for bisexuals and asexuals because like every bunk sexology it also needs to be totalizing. It's not even considered actual gynephilia by Blanchtard's followers himself for that very reason. Pick up a fucking book or shut the fuck up.
>>40335720
this whole thread was a shitpost just made to rile people up but now I'M mad some retard can't even spew agp theory garbage correctly
>>40335733
>I'm more trutrans than the doll who uses rose water to clean her hands after going to the toilet. (retarded)
what a retarded analogy, anon already correctly replied with >>40335750 anyways

>>40335781
> valid use of your time
I don't think about how I spend my time I just live in the moment desu.
But thank you for your advice, I shall disregard it.

>>40335733
o actually i forgot >>40335791
>consult the dsm
literally braindead lole

>>40335791
>>40335796
Your lack of mindfulness is causing your quality of life to suffer
>I like to make people mad so the degrade me
Pathetic, wish i could charge you money for this. I cant tho, so im gone

>>40335384 (OP)
Hello, I transitioned and objectively don’t pass which I think is what you’re confusing with being ugly. If you’re experiencing a level of crippling dysphoria that you know will only be fixed by transitioning the post-trans experience will always feel better no matter how well you pass. As for male privilege, if you’re so scared you also can just not surrender it if you think you’re not going to pass? I am still only gendered male after transitioning even with makeup, women’s clothes, etc, and while I’m treated poorly I retain all my male privilege. It’s a complicated feeling but the fact I can take it all off and present as a regular cis man is male privilege and transitioning itself has opened my eyes to how privileged men are. If all your concern is over just being an ugly woman though, get over yourself.

>>40335791
>>40335797
It's incredible how fucking assblasted everyone immediately gets at the suggestion of the word autogynephilia.
>>40335831
Nah I'm having a blast here and I don't feel degraded when people fall for my ragebaiting.

>>40335871
thread's derailed already anyways but i'll bite
>objectively don’t pass which I think is what you’re confusing with being ugly. I
if i don't pass, then i'm ugly
simple as
don't pass -> looks like a troon -> looks like an abomination
abominations are ugly
hence i'm ugly
>>40335892
>acts like a retard
>hurr u so mad xD
kys

>>40335907
> kys
no never i'm incredibly autistic. I like poking systems and taking note of what's happening to adjust my own behaviour accordingly irl.
I'm literally a human-flesh neural-net.

>>40335931
pick up a fucking book or shut up

>>40335936
i'm doing neither. I'll keep arguing with similarly autistic retards on a basketweaving forum
> i love my life.

>>40335384 (OP)
i have sex dysphoria and am much happier now that i pass even though im ugly.