I'm honestly surprised society hasn't caught on to this yet. I would argue that 60 to 70% of straight man desire trans women (most of them discretely). Considering how much straight men consume trans woman pornography or sleep with us in secret, I can't believe someone famous hasn't openly dated a trans woman.

If only straight guys could be more honest with each other, they could bond over their love of trans women and their love of sucking girldick.

>>40340558 (OP)
Mbappe dated a troon for a little bit

I am pretty open about it but I'm also openly bisexual so maybe this is not the visibility troonies need or want

>>40340558 (OP)
I'm open to it but 'Chaser's paradox' applies to this situation. If you dig a trans woman they stop considering you a man.

>>40340740
not publicly tho. he was seen in pics in a boat with her and thats all
its funny because footballers have a very high rate of seeking trannies for sex but still no one will ever date one

>>40340558 (OP)
we dont see you as possible dates or long-time relationships but as exotic sex objects (if you pass) that cant give children

>T. chaserino

>>40340879
i hope one cute transgirl does this to u one day

>>40340558 (OP)
i would agree that 60% to 70% of straight men would probably be open to dating passing trans women in a society without transphobia, but i wouldn't call a man who watches trans porn straight. i also wouldn't wanna date one.
>sucking girldick
bait

>>40340903
already been hurt by a trans woman more than once

>>40340558 (OP)
For men to be like that, attractive trans women would either have to become as numerous as cis women or, more realistically, cis women would have to stop stigmatizing men who've dated trans women. If women did not treat men who have dated trannies as gay, neither would other men.

>>40340920
Is this a case of a heartbroken boy becoming a heartbreaker?

>If only straight guys could be more honest with each other, they could bond over their love of trans women and their love of sucking girldick

>>40340860
>>40340558 (OP)
The biggest problem is that cis women will shame you 10,000%. Like, the whole not dating a girl who has been with a black guy before is only socially acceptable among right wing chuds, you arent allowed to say that IRL in polite society, but cis-women who are normally super progressive and libtarded/leftist/whatever will give you crap if they know you've been with a tranny before. I once went on a date with this cis woman and when she found out I've been with a tranny before her first response was "so you've been STD tested right" and I had to take a deep breath and explain that 1. I'm straight so I was topping and 2. since I was topping I can't get AIDs from it (and this was a turbo lefty George Floyd worshipping foid)

>>40340968
i wish, but i havent break any heart yet. i am just too soft

>>40340558 (OP)
I'm a straight man and I'm open about my attraction to trans women. In return, I get accused of being either gay or a chaser.

>>40340801
This. It's not fair.

>>40340879
Wrong. I absolutely want dates and a long-time relationship with a trans woman.

>>40340558 (OP)
p sure keanu reeves dated a tranny actress a few years back

>>40341023
>wrong. I absolutely want dates and a long-time relationship with a trans woman

keep telling them that chasoid, they are more vulnerable than cis fem so they believe you

>>40340558 (OP)
>I would argue that 60 to 70% of straight man desire trans women (most of them discretely)
this number is retardedly high, if this were the case I think cis men would not be discrete about it at all
white cis men are like the main drivers of society, if they all wanted this it would be more socially acceptable by now

>>40341074
White cis women are actually the drivers of society, see >>40341010

>>40340558 (OP)
It's a weird thing. Technically you'd consider them bi or bi curious but they'd never touch a whole arse man. I've been with a few guys like that

>>40341133
I mean for one, its white cis people in general
but two, all that post seems to get at is that cis girls think men who have been with transgirls are weird, or at the very least the one cis girl that that anon went out with does
but if op was right about how many dudes seek out trannies then that would either not be true or would not matter to them

>>40341010
You can get HIV from topping, it's just less likely. And you should get STD tested anyway even if you're sure all your partners were clean. Everyone thinks they're clean until they're not and they've got a persistent cough or warts on their genitals.

>>40341018
Aww, poor baby. Don't do that, anon. Breaking hearts to mend your own doesn't heal you, it only covers up your pain. It's like taking pain meds when you've got a broken leg without setting the bones and giving them rest. The pain has been dealt with, but you're healing in a way that will leave you messed up and dysfunctional, and on top of that, now you have a habit that's hurting everyone around you. Take some time for yourself to look back on your experiences, connect with family and friends, and just recalibrate. Talk with a therapist and friends about how your partners have hurt you. When you heal and when you're ready, you can try for love again.

>>40340879
Would you feel differently if they could give birth?

>>40340879
>>40340920
>>40341018
>Heh, we chasers just see you troons as sex objects! we would never LOVE you. heheh.
>BUT im so sensitive and emo and my little poor fragile heart broke and my feefees hurt and im just a little boy…
nigger grow up

>>40341249
if he was a normal respectable guy he wouldnt like trans women, only the incel manbabies that cant get real women like us unfort

>>40340558 (OP)
>I would argue that 60 to 70% of straight man desire trans women (most of them discretely)

>>40340558 (OP)
ciswomen will never allow it look at terfs as an example

>>40341184
>its white cis people
blacks and latinos are objectively evil to trannies. in my early transition before i passed i would get harassed in the streets by niggers every day. jeets arabs are mostly ok with troons if theyre fembrained for some reason. whites dont really care and will be nice if it benefits them and mean if its a detriment.

>>40340558 (OP)
It's misandric bi/homophobia on all sides.

I'll openly date trans women and publicly defend them when they stop screaming at everyone that they are the exact same as "cis" women.

Trans women and the men who actually are capable of loving them have no allies. To most normies, especially American women, both groups are either fags or groomers. From a "chaser" POV it's hard enough for us to honest with ourselves about what we really like. When trannies turn around and want us to lie to everyone to control their own optics in a narcissistic, entitled way, it creates the resentment that leads to the dynamic that is often seen between MtFs and the "straight" men who are attracted to them. So we ghost or are emotionally distant because the lie you need us to tell is absurd and traumatic to us, and you want to shake us down for money, seeing us as "tricks".

MtFs are attractive to guys like us because of their androgyny. The artful artificiality of your hyper-femininity that is ultimately a true, deep expression of your personalities and creativity that most "cis" men and women aren't capable or worthy of. That's what GAMP is. It's an attraction to this beautiful, delicate kind of new masculinity that comes without the patriarchal baggage. Someone will read this and call me a gincel without thinking about it any more deeply than that and it makes me sad, genuinely. You don't want to really understand our desires. You just need them to validate your weak self image.

>>40340558 (OP)
>and their love of sucking dick.
After all that, why did you have to go and make it gay?

> be me
> Don't pass
> Make bumble
>500 matches with straight men in 2 days
>They all look like the type of country conservative man who I'm afraid will hate crime me
>Become confused

>>40343111
A lot of men do blindly swipe right on everyone and then sort out their matches later.

>>40343127
Yeah that was my initial thought. I messaged a few making sure they knew I was trans. About 2/3 of those immediately unmatched. Still more than expected though

transwomen are males
males that have sex with males are homosexual
its impossible for a transwomen to get a straight cis boyfriend

>>40340558 (OP)
Bro literally used to get pegged by his gfs and now gets fucked by a man, but he isn’t like those other faggots. Oh Joey

>>40340558 (OP)
>If only straight guys could be more honest with each other

Yeah, but I came out as pan tho caw CAW CAW! CAW!!!!

>>40340558 (OP)
Unfortunately transwomen are caught in a paradox.
Most transwomen weren't successful with cisgender women because they felt like a woman themselves which creates a dysphoria around lesbianism.
Most transwomen are attracted to men but many transwomen don't realize that until they get to the early steps in accepting their femininity. It can take awhile especially for a transwoman to move away from a cisgendered male role.
It's can be a slow evolution especially into dating.
Most straight men have absolutely no idea of the psychological forces at play in transitioning.
It's not like you put on a pair of panties and a skirt and suddenly be transformed into wanting sex with men or women.
For real transgender women who are not just exploring a fetish or trend, which is mostly the reason for the increase in transitioning, it can be an extremely traumatic experience making the change.

>>40341010
It would have been nice if you'd had also stuck up for us and challenged the preconception that trannies are just as a rule disease ridden and bad. as you note that stigma on us hurts you too!

>>40343168
> For real transgender women who are not just exploring a fetish or trend, which is mostly the reason for the increase in transitioning, it can be an extremely traumatic experience making the change.
what change?

>>40340879
>>40341433
Anti-chaser transbian psyop #12493

>hiding shoulders behind her husband’s arm

>>40340558 (OP)
If I prefer cis women (I pretty much only lust about them) then it's a waste of resources trying to fuck one?

>>40343374
I wish I had huge masc shoulders like robby

>>40343453
i want to have dirty hon4hon sex with this beautiful chimp

>>40340558 (OP)
Straight guys fuck with trans women pretty hard. Most just keep it DL
>>40340879
this is how most men see women in general desubh. this isn’t news to us

>>40341203
>aww, poor baby. Don't do that, anon. Breaking hearts to mend your own doesn't heal you, it only covers up your pain. It's like taking pain meds when you've got a broken leg without setting the bones and giving them rest. The pain has been dealt with, but you're healing in a way that will leave you messed up and dysfunctional, and on top of that, now you have a habit that's hurting everyone around you. Take some time for yourself to look back on your experiences, connect with family and friends, and just recalibrate. Talk with a therapist and friends about how your partners have hurt you. When you heal and when you're ready, you can try for love again

can we marry?

>>40340558 (OP)

Only non ops though. Post ops are trash and like whats the point? Might as well date a real woman who can have kids and is moderately less mentally ill.

>>40341023
You are gay. (chaser is the same thing)

I'm from a latinamerican country, im the typical hsts blonde and im in a beautiful long term relationship with a businessman, my friends also dates politicians and rich men. So i guess it's absolutly normal but no visible

>>40344208
Out of curiosity, are you and your friends non-op or post-op?

>>40340879
TRVKE NVKE

>>40340558 (OP)
There are famous men who are openly gay, but none I know of who are openly chasers. I think it might be more socially acceptable to just be gay these days because chaserphoboia is so strong. There are many famous men who want to date trannies but are afraid to.

>>40344208
yet another example of puritan anglo "culture" ruining everyone's lives for no reason

>>40344124
TRVKE

If you looked outside your fantasy bubble for a bit, you would realize just how a lot of guys "yuck" at the thought of a woman with a penis

>>40344124

lmao so many need to realise this and especially those "chasers" that try play it out that they're straight still even though they only want trannies.

>>40343093
As a fellow chaser who experiences attraction to androgyny in much the same way that you do, I would implore you to be a little more understanding of trans women’s situation. Most of them are treated like absolute dogshit by men and so they are very suspicious of us. It’s so common that there is no agreed-upon way to refer to us in ordinary parlance, beyond “chaser,” which implies a negative judgment. For better or for worse, we take on a small measure of the stigma they get for being trans, just by dint of our association with them. But we can cover up the fact that we like trans people, while trans people are very visible and their existence is politicized.

Trans women also face the challenge of re-learning how to exist in romantic relationships. For many of them, we are the first man they’ve ever dated, and they make stupid mistakes that you would expect of somebody much younger. But just as you would be patient with a younger person, so too should you be patient in this case. They have a lot to learn and you must be patient. And I have had my heart broken by more than one trans woman, badly. I’m currently recovering from one such disappointment now. But I try to stop myself from making blanket statements about trans women. It might be more socially acceptable for women of all varieties to make blanket statements like “men are pigs,” or “all men want is sex.” But they do no favors to themselves by entertaining such hatreds, even if there are no shortage of people online who agree with them and chime in. Neither will we chasers come to any valid conclusions by making broad and uncharitable generalizations of trans women’s intentions. Many of them are just trying to figure out love just as we are, and their position is much more confusing than ours.

>>40346781

You’re not even typical gay (chaser). You’re a future troon, you think way too much about how the other side lives and speak about the experience like you have it yourself. Take your pills and stop wasting time

>>40340879
>that cant give children
This is the biggest cope of all, "le children". First, if the tgirl can't give you a child, you can't get divorce raped. Second, children are just a mechanism for transaction of generational capital: any child will do - adopted, or from surrogate mother. Third, you broke nigga and you won't breed anyway, don't pretend like you will.

>>40347901
>You’re not even typical gay (chaser). You’re a future troon

my man, every chaser is a repping AGP hon. This has long been known; GAMP and AGP are 2 sides of the same coin.

>>40348370
I'm a cis woman chaser, I have 0 desire to be a man because I'm femme.

>>40348451
>cis woman
on 4chan? lol

Sam Hyde fucked Eve aka RainSFX.
Big Lenny fucked Jessica a bunch of times.
Jason Genova dated that latina tranny for a while.
Andrew Tate was fucking one and then made that video about Megan Fox w a dick vs. Hulk Hogan w a pussy.
I know Alex Jones would fuck Blair White if she wasn't out of his league.

>>40348370
Why don't I want to crossdress or be feminine beyond my very few effeminate traits if that's true? I'm GAMP and I've had a very good love life with cis girls but I would totally date or marry a tranny if she was right for me.

This is the gayest part about being a chaser
>Erm ur actually gay/closet tranny/agp/whatever dumb brainworm shit I try to apply to reality
Awful
Also what >>40345874 says

There's no gay or straight then. There's only tops and bottoms. All bottoms are gay and all tops are straight. I'm not putting anymore thought into this.

>>40343493
See, that behavior is what I'm talking about, anon. You aren't ready to say something like that. A pattern of jumping into relationships before you've looked deeper is just going to hurt you more.

>>40341010
Progressives are full of shit, they only pretend to accept trannies.

>>40340558 (OP)
>men are attracted to women
WOAH NO FRIGGING WAY DUDE !!!

Bump

>>40343093
>When trannies turn around and want us to lie to everyone to control their own optics in a narcissistic, entitled way
That's the only reason they care about dating straights to begin with, if they weren't hung up on forcing their own narcissistic fantasies on the world they wouldn't care what sexuality a man was, just that their love is genuine. But even women rarely have their priorities set straight, let alone men larping as women with a limited scope of what being a woman even is.
>>40346781
Infantilizing trans women and excusing their shit behavior because "being trans is hard" is just as damaging as saying "all men are pigs" but in the opposite way, it's tolerating selfish, toxic behavior. If you respect trans women as human beings hold them responsible for their actions, if they can't behave themselves they should live with the consequences. Boundaries should be enforced, or else they're pointless. Perfect example is your comment on it being socially acceptable to be openly misandrist if you're a woman, you can openly incite violence towards men. Do you think society tolerating that makes it an easier place to live? Do we benefit as a whole? No, it's just letting toxic behavior slip because people have antiquated values in regards to women. If we're equal that goes for accountability, they should live with the consequences of their actions.

>>40343093
I'm into trannies and it's nothing like that. The androgyny is nice, I like it, but I like cis girls too. Nice looking trannies are just girls to me but they have a dick, great, I'm fine with whatever if the girls right for me.
People are wired different man, maybe you see them that way because you are genuinely gay or bi, no problem.