/our/ girl is getting raped by the twitter commies again
>>40342232 (OP)could you shut the fuck up twittertard
words words words words.
All leftists can do is post words and cry.
imagine posting takes on xitter... kek
If you arent anti-zionist you are anti-muslim. As long as israel exists they will bomb children indiscriminately. The israeli jew abhors the brown gaza muslim.
>>40342268>If you arent anti-zionist you are anti-muslim.Ok.
>>40342239Based.
>>40342232 (OP)Ever notice tranny spaces even spaces that are based on /tttt/ culture are rabid communists?
>>40342248she is a self described neo-liberal
>>40342239I don't see anything wrong here but people will be mad as usual
>>40342277>>40342278It's fine to be whatever, you are doubly entitled to your opinions as trannies, one as a man, one as a woman.
I just really am disgusted by centrists who delude themselves into thinking peaceful coexistence is an option. CLEARLY all historical evidence shows otherwise. Jerusalem and the likes are and always have been where satanic blood wars to honor moloch occur
>>40342232 (OP)She is againts anti-semitism and doesnt praise Islam thats it.
To priviliged american leftists if you dont worship Hamas (who openly said they want to martyr Palestinians) you are Netenyahu 2.0
>>40342293Throughout history Jews and Muslims have fought everyone around them. I think people that are surprised these groups fight, especially when living right next to eachother need to open a book.
>>40342279those are leftists too retard
Stopping Hitler was a mistake.
>>40342232 (OP)You can scream for the death of Israel all day long but the bottom line is they have about 300 nuclear weapons. Their existence is guaranteed in perpetuity and Iran getting nukes will not change that.
People ask why the US is so bound up in Israel, and part of it is the Israel lobby. But the bigger part is the US really prefers for those nukes to stay in their silos. Israel is a country that is obviously under existential threat. "Right to exist" or some such nonsense has nothing to do with it.
Sucks for the Palestinians but not even the Arabs care about them. Iran is just using them as collateral and look at where it got them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_urWSSZgwU
tl:dr its over. its been over.
>>40342314Jews didn't have a state for 2000 years. They aren't "destined" to always exist. Christians use to prosecute them. The Zionist Christian position can still be changed...
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>>40342320I said nothing about destiny or fate or any such spiritualist nonsense. I said they have 300 nuclear weapons ready to deploy on a hair trigger. Unless you can change that reality Israel isn't going anywhere.
The Israelis understand this. Like North Korea they will never give up their nukes
>but why don't we treat them like north korea then?!because they don't have nukes pointed at our allies and our military bases.
>>40342334Once Iran acquires nuclear weapons, Saudi Arabia and Qatar will as well. The Palestinians will remain permanently on the lands of Israel, and any change to that would risk a nuclear holocaust among the Semitic peoples. We need a nuclear-armed Iran for peace.
Israel made peace with all of their Arab neighbors at this point, why the fuck couldnt Palestine?
The whole idea of "hurr durr let's pointlessly rush into a suicidal race war with Jews that will obviously lead to retaliation that Israel will obviously win because they are 10x more technologically advanced" is retarded. And if you are a western leftists who support this you only care about more bloodshed to satisfy your own bloodlusted hatred towards Israelis and don't care that the outcome means more dead and more misery for all
Did you know that fucking last week, turkey and armenia normalized relations? Armenia got fucked harder than Palestinians ever did and somehow they decided diplomacy is better than eternal race war blood feud with their historical enemies and killing random turkish civilians
If Hamas didn't exist and there was a Fatah clone in power in Gaza they would have already been on the way to a 2 state solution
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It's good that israel survives. All jews should live in israel. It makes the eventual round-up and TKD easier
>>40342351>The Palestinians will remain permanently on the lands of Israel, and any change to that would risk a nuclear holocaust among the Semitic peoples.Delusional nonsense. The Iranians aren't going to sacrifice their country for Palestine. Google MAD. This is middle school level stuff.
>>40342352Would you want a secular socialist organization; like the PLO, for example in charge of Gaza right now
>>40342368Why have they sacrificed their economy and middle class to antagonize Israel then?
>>40342368Israel already acts like Iran is MAD. I don't see why they would try to ethnically cleanse the Palestinians if Iran had a nuke
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>>40342374Because they could have Hezbollah do it for them, far away from Iran? After Assad fell they lost the Shia crescent so now they have no way of arming Hezbollah, which is being purged in Lebanon right now. They are surrounded on all sides with only a embattled Hamas to do their bidding. At this point pushing their luck on foreign adventures instead of internal stability means that Iranian territory will be affected
>>40342374They haven't. They've sacrificed their economy and middle class to try and maintain a balance of power in the region. Only part of that involves keeping Israel tied up in proxy conflicts. Its only one aspect of their foreign policy.
Their real fear has always been US-led regime change.
>>40342395Also this
>>40342380>Israel already acts like Iran is MAD.MAD is an acronym. I'm going to need you to read a history book before you reply further.
Which tranny is going to be the most successful in the why i left the left and zogged out category? Wu or Contra? Contra is obviously more appealing by Wu is an effective backstabber and already in with the neocons like destiny
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>>40342415I use think Wu was a Chinese cis-woman.
>>40342415Contra (like Ethan Klein actually) supports Palestine she just doesn't want to destroy the state of israel and expel the Jews from the middle east, which in the minds of tankies basically means you must be excommunicated and morally equivalent to hitler
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>>40342415Idk, ziHONtrapoints probably because he's slightly more clever than BriAGPna but they're both retarded af
It's not even a good move to post that kind of shit today unless you really care about putting your claws into the teeth of the dem establishment. No one in EU is a zionist, most Americans are antizionist, ziHONtrapoints might have destroyed his youtube career and he's too much of an unpassing troon to succeed politically
>>40342412I know what MAD is nigga. Israel literally goes around the world telling everyone that Iran is a death cult and the new Hitler who wants to wipe them out in one strike; hence why they need nukes. If Iran did acquire them, there would be peace.
>>40342433I don't want zionists expelled, just executed. A clean death is more than they deserve.
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>>40342445>>40342433I don't want the Jews expelled or killed! I want them to live in a democracy where Palestinians have the same right of return a white Brooklynite has. 1 person 1 vote
>>40342454>white BrooklyniteBecause white people belong everywhere right
>>40342459According to Israel, yes
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They can live in palestine
>>40342460Well duh, no shit. Is it racist that I can't get Italian citizenship when your average Argentinian can? That's how citizenship by descent laws work...
>>40342441>If Iran did acquire them, there would be peace.Maybe in the long term. In the short term things would get much worse since Iran would be able to fund their proxies more aggressively and be insulated from the consequences.
Iran isn't going to nuke Israel over Palestine because as you say, they aren't a death cult. Iran's leadership enjoys being alive and not living in a bunker.
>>40342474if jewish people can't have an ethnostate its another holocaust even ethan klein agrees with this
>>40342480Israel doesn't say so. They say Khamenei is the crazed new Hitler that will butcher his own people to nuke Israel
>>40342481Uh yes? Arabs would immediately program them. No shit.
Why would they enact suicidal policies to please your western liberal sensibilities?
>>40342492The Jiyza solves this. Israelis would just have to pay with one big tittied woman and no pogroms would take place.
>>40342478citizenship by descent laws work by going back one to two generations not granting a perpetual claim going back to the kingdom of judea and all the converts on top for good measure
>>40342478Damn... It's good that a Palestinian living in America has the same right of return then
Tsar Bomba on pissrael please
>>40342492>>40342495its pogrom you insipid little worm time to go back to watching klein bing bing wahoo videos
>>40342501It's not even an ethnostate, do you consider mizrahi, Ashkenazi, and ethiopian Jews all the same race? That's pretty dubious
>>40342501Nah, you don't get it, senpai. The Polish Ashkenazi whose family hasnโt set foot in Israel for 2,000 years has the right of return, but a displaced Palestinian in Jordan canโt return because of 'demographic reasons'?
>>40342519Racist, not everybody is English first language. Check yourself. You just committed bigotry
>>40342521They're apart of the religious of the ethno religious thing. It's a whole thing with the Jews
>>40342521i consider jew to be an ethno-religious category which is legally privileged by israeli law
>>40342525The can't return because they lost the war to exterminate israel.... you know.... for the same reasons stettin is now szeczin.... Unless you apply that same logic?
>>40342538A Christian convert has greater rights to return than the descendants of the Nakba
>>40342232 (OP)>>40342239>>40342247>even the person who think Palestinians are unconditional victims with zero responsibility couldn't stand leftists.More proof that leftists """NEED""" Palestinians blood as lube to masturbate their own moral outrage.
>>40342539you don't get to ethnically cleanse a population because "they" lost a war
>>40342543She's been left punching since 2018. It all started with the anarcho-kiddies
>>40342549>sorry we left because we wanted to destroy you but failed... can we come back and live in your liberal democracy?>a-actually we like jewish ethnonationalism now!
>>40342239lol at her implying anti-zionism is bad. what an absolute psyoped goyim.
>>40342567>israel is an evil jewish theocracy dictatorship that terribly oppresses the poor muslims! especially the ones it cruelly oppresses by not letting them live in israel!
>>40342580it also oppresses the ones not wanting to live in Israel (West Bank)
I need to go back on my ADD meds to read all that and not sure if it's worth it.
>>40342549Well, for one, they weren't ethnically cleansed in the typical sense. As in, not every Palestinian got expelled, as every German did in Poland and czechia, or as every Armenian did in their recent war with Azerbaijan.
Many Zionists, notably the mayor of haifa and leaders in haganah pleaded with the Arabs to stay, reiterating that the Jews only wish for peace and not make enemies of the Arabs. The leaders of the Arab armies, on the other hand, spread fear and panic amongst their populace, telling them of an incoming mass murder that never came, and promising them that they would regroup and destroy the fledging Jewish state with numerical superiority at a later did (which never did happen in their successive wars to destroy israel in which Israel crushed them all)
Those who did not listen to the panic mongers in the Arab armies (who likely only spread fear of pogroms because that is what they were planning to do with Jews) and disarmed were allowed to stay in Israel, where their descendents make up 2 million Arabs today. Compare this to places like Hebron and east Jerusalem, which had heavy Jewish presence, where every single Jew was expelled.
Even after trying to exterminate the Jews, there was no grudge, they got a far better deal than their contemporaries, the Germans of Prussia, or the hindus of modern Pakistan, or the Poles of Lviv (who were completely innocent).
>>40342561lucky you just can make shit up to ignore well documented history or else you would seem really silly
>>40342602There is another! We can rebuild contrapoints! And make her better!
>>40342599Very cool, explain Plan Dalet now.
>>40342232 (OP)the flame war is happening here fellow redditors
https://www.reddit.com/r/ContraPoints/s/R5y8ySNYM4
https://www.reddit.com/r/ContraPoints/s/KaYDbZhtXO
https://www.reddit.com/r/ContraPoints/s/ogiFho7YaE
https://www.reddit.com/r/ContraPoints/s/yannmcLIAi
>>40342352>make peace with the genocidal imperialists occupying your land Retard.
>>40342613A young, fledgling state, which has recently had its population besieged on all sides, and its main centers of Jewish population separate and vulnerable to attacks, seizing control of supply routes to their cities.
Generally, if compliant locals were unaffected, but not always. War is messy and people get displaced. That is why it is best not to start it.
Generally, the Israelis were far more liberal in pacifying their territories. In the Palestinian controlled territories, every single Jew was expelled. One side showed some leniency and the other, none.
>>40342632Would you prefer if instead of Armenia making peace with Turkey, they placed some bombs in blue mosque in Istanbul and kill hundreds of random civilians to avenge the Armenian genocide? Would that accomplish anything other than bloodlust?
>>40342489I donโt care about what leaders say. I care
about what they do.
>>40342610Toob had already realized that it's better to pursue an acting career instead of living in Contra's shadow forever and is now getting ready to close that YouTube channel. Good move imo.
>>40342652nearly 400 villages were forcibly depopulated, including through the use of biological warfare under operation cast thy bread by poisoning villages and cities water supply with salmonella typhi to cause typhoid fever epidemics. An operation David Ben-Gurion directly ordered and oversaw, not the product of war is messy criminal actions of rogue soldiers. Conducting Biological warfare on multiple civilian populous is ludicrously illegal and would have earned anyone else eternal pariah status. Operation cast thy bread makes Assad usage of chlorine bombs look ghandiesque by comparison
>>40342704not defending that but typhoid when treated is non lethal and this was discontinued shortly after being implemented. It's really stupid to compare an easily treated illness to what Assad did or what Saddam did to the Kurds, which caused tens of thousands of deaths. Also there was no biological weapons conventions in 1948
she tricked her way onto breadtube by posing as a radical but turned out to be a libtard who also interviewed hillary clinton.
SAD!
>>40342772the geneva protocol was signed in 1925 and entered force in 1928
>>40342786they were all libtards, same with hasan and any of the remaining losers
putting your self up as a zionist in leftoid circles, especially after the gaza genocide is a bad look to sat the least.
the whole thing has really torn bread tube a new asshole.
if she wanted to play liberal zionist the smart thing to do is what bernie sanders does and blame Netanyahu, not the state of israel, but she a dummy.
the youth is becoming increainlgy anti zionist. you have rightoids of the pol type who hate jews in general, or the nick fuentes zoomer types who are anti israel and hate jews too. and on the other side you have leftoids who are against zionism and settler colonialism
america is just getting browner and less religious, once the evangelicals and boomers die off being pro israel will make you look like a retard
contra is either a paid shill or too stupid to realize which way the wind is blowing
>>40342772typhoid fever is "easily treated" with modern anti-biotics, it has a case fatality rate of about 20 percent otherwise and thats not even addressing the poisoning of water sources. 10s to 100s of thousands of jews died of "easily treatable" typhus during the holocaust.
>>40342232 (OP)>>40342239she's completely and utterly correct and it's fucking baffling to me that this isn't the default position for everyone
>>40342314>Sucks for the Palestinians but not even the Arabs care about them.and for good reason
every country that has taken in palestinian refugees has islamist insurgencies of which a significant amount of plaestinians took part in
you think the refugee crisis in a controversial topic in the west? in the middle east it's literally led to governments being violently overthrown
>>40342839contra was always about sheepdogging leftoids back into the dem party from the jump, i don't see why anyone that isn't retarded is surprised. she was sticking the boot into OG leftypol and the anarchists when they accounted for maybe 2-3000 people total across the US. The gaza breakaway types are far more numerous and have arguably a demonstrable impact on dems getting elected like in dearborn, she was also going to tear into them. Also there is a massive audience to gain from going at Hasan which will probs be her next move.
>>40342867In Kuwait over 300,000 Palestinians got expelled because when Saddam invaded Kuwait the Palestinians support it, they donned the uniform of Iraq and started mass looting and raping
Needless to say, we don't hear anything about this 'nakba' for whatever reason
>>40342326>I'm pro bothholy based
>>40342239This is a very wise, adult take. No wonder the immature idiots are throwing a fit.
>>40342704that was 1948, assad's chemical attacks were 2013 (65 years later)
assad's victims suffered horrifically painful deaths. there's no clear sign anyone died from the israeli biological warfare attack. i think if israel did it in 2025 they should be sanctioned and cut off from the world but it was a while ago
i don't know why they posted it in that format (the account is hasan's main editor, impersonating the media website dexerto)
https://www.reddit.com/r/ContraPoints/comments/1lvxfqo/thoughts_on_ip/
>>40342232 (OP)>Opposition to Israel as a Jewish state le badImagine if you tried to say "Opposition to Australia/New Zealand/Britain/etc as a White state bad" then you'd be seen as some militant wignat, why the double standards?
>>40343054Opposition to South Africa as an apartheid state
>>40343002> there's no clear sign anyone died from the israeli biological warfare attacklies, there are direct first hand accounts drawn from the ICRCs public archives
>On 6 May 1948, in Acreโs Lebanese hospital, which belonged to the Red Cross, an emergency meeting was convened. Brigadier Beveridge, chief of the British medical services, Colonel Bonnet of the British army, Dr Maclean of the Medical Services, and Mr de Meuron, the Red Cross delegate in Palestine, met with city officials to discuss the seventy casualties the epidemic had already claimed. They concluded that the infection was undoubtedly water-borne, not due to crowded or unhygienic conditions, as the Hagana claimed. Tellingly, it had affected fifty-five British soldiers who were transferred to Port Said hospital in Egypt. โNothing like that ever happened in Palestine,โ Brigadier Beveridge told de Meuron. The minute they had identified the aqueduct as the source, they switched to artesian wells and water from the agricultural station north of Acre.
>>40342304lol ronald Reagan and Margaret thatcher are leftists?
>>40343054one benefits jews the other doesn't benefit jews
I cant wait till its legal to vivisect jewish children. Watch them as they scream as their ribs are pulled back and their organs removed
>>40342314>Their existence is guaranteed in perpetuity and Iran getting nukes will not change that. >Israel is a country that is obviously under existential threat.
Why should I care what a fashionista pretending to be a philosopher thinks?
>>40343123That says casualties.
ESL?
>>40342232 (OP)>>40342239>>40342247i dont think no one really gives two fucking fucks about palestine. people just want to look cool
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Everyday a new Contrapoints controversy comes out I'm again stunned people still watch this bitch. Anyone watching Breadtube post 2021 is extremely onions millenial.
>>40342239What are people mad about, that she gave a nuanced take and was mildly critical of overly online leftists? Oh no my heckin left unity
Fuck Israel and fuck equivocating about genocide. You're a bunch of zoomers who don't understand the imperial boomerang, this happening so televised and so against the supposed checks & balances of international law is setting a precedent for the whole human race.
>>40343903>t. didn't read
>>40342846It seems like it's missing the context that the government of Israel clearly does NOT support a two state solution and there has been NO viable political opposition within Israel that even wants to make steps towards a two state solution since Rabin. The younger generations in Israel are MORE conservative and colonialist than the older ones. Based on that it seems the only viable option is to support the dissolution of Israel at least until they re-educate their population.
>>40342232 (OP)>middle class white North American woman with no culture and incredible amounts of privilege has an opinion>I carepick one
>>40344293I wonder why Isreali dont want 2 state solution like they did decade ago.
For anyone but Hamas and priviliged american leftists its obvious that raping killing and parading corpses of israelis like trophies will not lead to any solution.
Hamas wanted to destroy Israel on oct7 they crossed the rubicon you cant go back to 2 state solution. Its literally kill or be killed now and Isreal is way better at killing.
>>40344310Your whole political ideology comes from a multimilionare nepo baby who does all his reporting from west hollywood mansion.
Talk about privilege. There are few people more privileged than Hasan Piker.
why does the /lgbt/ board care about brown people who will behead them without blinking
>>40342239The only thing contra is wrong about is continuing to try and engage with stupid children on xitter. I donโt know if it is even worth it for her to bother and seems like a pain in the ass.
>>40344310sometimes I like you and sometimes you're annoying, right now you're alright but you lose me when you put on the "ironic" pro-genocide stuff
>>40342239>Troon mad about insufficient loyalty to the Democrats because only the wonderful Democrats can keep troons safeFurther proof that the left must purge itself of gendermonsters for no reason other than to approach decisions with clarity. These whores just want to vote for Obama and bounce on cock. It's the most obvious thing in the world that they are enemies of any worker's movement. It's okay for them to be that way but I'm interested in the liberation of ***the world** and contra will always decide that liberalism is pretty good because she can still suck cock right?
>>40344358I care about all people. I even care about (you).
>>40344452>punch nazis (unless they're brown)
>>40344484Who are you quoting?
>>40344329There was never going to be a two state and everyone knew it.
Their options were to be ground down by the conqueror and wither away to nothing, like red indians, or to go down fighting.
>>40344329Well when you create a state with the express goal of kicking people off their land so you can set up an ethnonationalist project and then advertise that to the people of the diaspora all over the world guess who shows up on your doorstep to help you. Yeah, it's nutjob fascists who are going to poison your democracy and slide your country into hell. So it's time to pack it up and reboot.
>>40344355>hasan is ideologically influentialWhat leads people to believe this
>>40344497radlefts who preach values such as secularism and equality who ally themselves with religious extremists? not just muslim ones but also jewish ones like neturei karta (only because they're anti israel though, religious jews who like israel like chabad are also evil, only jews who hate israel are real jews), I will forever question how these guys chsoe to ally themselves with people who stand so far opposite of them on the moral compass they may be on an entirely different plane of thinking than them, the plane of thinking that figures that murdering a girl for working and moving out alone is normal
be anti-israel all you want, but acting like Israel is the most evil thing in the middle east is fucking retarded
>>40344358I don't want my tax dollars funding bombs when they won't even give me healthcare.
>>40344575the US spends way more on military bases abroad in places like japan sk norway and germany than it does on israel because there are actual american troops stationed there constantly and bases have to be maintained, there are literally zero US bases in Israel, all that money is basically paying Israel to maintain american interests in the region without needing to shed american blood for it, yet you people choose to hone in on israel for some reason
if you're anti-nato, anti intervention, pro isolation then be that, I don't care, but this weird fucking obsession you people have with Israel reeks
>>40344355I had thought you somehow meant Adam Smith but messed up his biography, but then I realized zoomers are retarded.
Anyway, Contra is right.
>>40342232 (OP)>>40342239>Lib agrees with the leftists "In theory" but spends all their effort attakking them instead of the rightWow ,what a surprise ,surely this hasn't happened a million times before
>>40344519You and Hamas bilionares are priviliged enough to believe that throwing away the living situation in gaza before oct 7 by Hamas starting total war with Israel for half a day of glory was in any way worth it
>>40344686>lefties complaining about being attacked by liberals is this ironic
>>40344532How is isreal ethnonationalitic.
There is bigger % of Arabs living in Israel than % jews living in ANY arab country
>>40344686Leftist especialy in USA have done literally nothing but attack liberals.
>>40344551israel is the most evil thing in the middle east, and objectively so.
>>40344605>yet you people choose to hone in on israel for some reasonNot that anon but I want all those bases closed and the troops home (and most of them demobilized). The only moral foreign policy is foreign aid and soft power. But acting like people are honed in on Israel for no reason at all right now is peak libtardation.
>>40344705>">lefties complaining about being attacked by liberals"I'm just observing whats happening
This is very prediktable and expekted ,and lines up with the way this normally plays out
>>40344730You are just talking about all 300 remaining Twitter leftists
>>40342239I don't really see what everyone is mad about.
>>40344730>>40344705Which upset liberals more: A leftist winning a mayoral primary in NYC or an extremely conservative bill passing in the senate? They had more anger of a mayoral race.
>>40344714https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_Law:_Israel_as_the_Nation-State_of_the_Jewish_People
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>>40344551It is typical neolib mindset to conflate a people with their present values.
Values are constantly changing. In 1000 years time, Israel may be a theocracy run on the principles of the Torah,. and perhaps Iran may be a secular, materialist economic zone. In which case the neolib would switch his support to Iran, and be calling for Israel's destruction.
The left, at least, are consistent.
>>40344766Are you talking about the one big beautiful bill that would never have existed if leftists cared enough to vote?
>>40344737>>40344737sure bud, sure
just ignore iran gang raping a woman till she died for not covering her hair and the IRGC slaughtering hundreds if not thousands of their own people for protesting against it, the horrible shit that the new regime in syria is pulling against alawites, bonesaw checks by the saudi royalty
>The only moral foreign policy is foreign aid and soft power.that doesn't work and you're naive or retarded when it comes to geopolitics, I'll put it in the simplest terms for you:
The US empire is currently in a semi-cold war against rising powers who are trying to destroy its monopoly on the world economy by dethroning the dollar and making the US' rules on global trade obsolete
in europe that power is Russia, and the US counter to that is NATO
in asia that power is China, and the US counter to that is Japan SK taiwan and Australia to a lesser extent
in the middle east that power is Iran, and the US counter to that is Israel
there is more to it than that, like how fragile certain countries are the principles and morals that the people in said country hold, for example while certain muslim countries in MENA are US-aligned the people are not and thus those regimes are fragile and prone to dethroning like in the arab spring, while Israelis, whether you like it or not or willing to believe it or not, generally hold similar values of democracy and liberalism that the US does, the opposition and the government in Israel are both US aligned and so are the people, thus its a more safe investment than say Jordan egypt or even saudi arabia
>>40344767Over 2 milions arabs live in Izrael. Their language is recognized.
Why cant there be one jewish satetes but dozens of arab states
>>40344806That's hilarious coming from retards that bet everything on NeverTrumper Republicans. Liz Cheney tour kek
>>40344766Leftists dont care about acual policy.
You are more hyped about NY socialist owning the libs before he did anything in the office than stoping acual fascist you even couldnt do the bare minimum and vote
You people allowed for the fucking bill to even exist.
>>40344811It sounds like you just want to drag the entire West into forever wars to prop up Amerikan hegemony
A hegemony built on bombing people ,overthrowing demokratikally elekted governments when they don't serve US interests ,and ,of kourse ,a bunc of forever wars whic make the entire West worse off
This might sound krazy to you ,but empires are bad aktually ,and we shouldnt allow any to exist
>>40344813recognized but not given equal status. I don't support arab states writing into law or into their constitution that they are designated as for the arab people primarily, that would be undemocratic.
>>40344827Thinking that Liz cheyney is liked by republicans is delusional, it was a shit move from the fucking get go, no republican likes anyone involved in the Iraq war, and thats why trump won the nomination in 2016 in the first place, maybe you're a zoomer and don't remember but back in 2016 saying the iraq war was a horrible move on the debate stage was unheard of and he was the first one to do it, the 'pro liz cheyney never trump republicans' never existed
>>40344827>That's hilariouswe agree that the bill doesn't matter we're just having fun
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>>40344355why do you think I am influenced by Hasan? I don't even watch him, I was a Marxist for a decade before even knowing about him
>>40344862>recognized but not given equal status.You've clearly never spoken to an arab Israeli lmao
>>40344806Liberals from October 8th 2023-November 9th 2024
>you out of touch leftists don't know what messages will get average americans to the polls, we don't need you to win>don't vote for us, we don't care we'll still beat the felon drumpfLiberals from November 9th 2024-present
>REEEEEEEEE YOU LEFTOIDS YOU BETRAYED US BY NOT VOTING ALL OF THIS IS YOUR FAULT I HOPE YOU ENJOY IT WHEN TRUMP SENDS YOU TO A CONCENTRATION CAMP REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>40344892yeah nobody cares
>>40344858this might sound krazy to you, but empires will always exist, and I'd rather the empire be led by the US than china or russia or Iran saying 'we shouldn't allow empires to exist' is the most nonsense hippie shit once can spout, a monopoly of violence is the only thing that matters.
If in this day and age you are not anti-jew full stop you are a fool. Don't @ me idgaf. Ciao!
>>40344766Itโs just possible to argue with leftists, or at least, I still think it is. Meanwhile, I feel like American conservatives are either evil or insane. Every conversation I have with them either ends up being about racialism or religious schizophrenia. There is just no point in getting mad at them, because they are barely sentient.
>>40344892you people are so fucking out of touch
>>40344892I have never told a leftist not to vote. I simply do not believe they will vote, regardless of what I say to them.
>>40344906I dislike China for a litany of reasons ,but the fakt is that they aren't establishing their global hegemony by funding proxy wars and overthrowing demokratik governments to install diktatorships
>>40344939>"The DNC is the bastion of leftism so therefore the stupid bullshit they do is the fault of leftists"Lmao liberals thought eating bugs was a good idea and somehow this is the fault of leftists
>>40344892wait, you're spitting fax
Biden literally only won because the left allowed him to
the moment dems went blue maga they lost
>>40344960>but the fakt is that they aren't establishing their global hegemony by funding proxy warsdon't look into the myanmar civil war
don't look into their funding of russia and iran
don't look into what they do in
don't look into their insane claims in the south china sea and taiwan and the bases they build there to maintain control and harass local fishermen
>>40344990>Trump won because leftists allowed him toYes we know
>>40344998>don't look into what they do inin africa*
>>40345002>dems decide to drop their entire voting base>WAAHHHHHH WAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH
>>40345020Entire voting base? I voted for Kamala as did millions of others. As for a communist, me and most others would never, ever, ever voted for one.
>>40345002>libs will perish thanks to leftistsBased
I hope ziHONtrapoints gets sent to a full male prison in Salvador
>>40345020saying dems lost because of the 3000 people that voted in jill stein is cope
saying the left is the dem's entire voter base is also false
in reality the left and rad left only really exists online, and most of the people who parttake in leftist spaces and watch breadtubers are not even americans to begin with and those who do live in america will never vote anyways cause 'fuck da system' or something, contra makes a fair point in that if even bernie sanders isn't enough for you all there will probably never be an electable american candidate good enough for you
>>40342239this is weird. she comes off very annoyed with these posts and acts as if anti-israel libs are being calculated, but they arent. israel is murdering children and trying to justify it and that is ultimately evil. not being able to just flat-out admit that and having to instead make long ass wordy posts like this is telling that she is still in some way supporting of israel. and that is reprehensible.
>expecting them to accept a rational take
Kek. You're either with us or against us sweetie. These are the rules your group play by and now you'll die by it.
For as much money as they get for doing nothing I would have just lied and said Israel should be nuked
>>40344998>"don't look into their funding of russia and iran"True aktually ,but they seem to not be bakking Iran
You kould (and I will) still make an argument against spesifikally Amerikan hegemony on the issue of kompetense
Amerika has probably the most inkompetent leadership ,and the most bakkwards bumfukk population ever
All of China's leadership are serious people with klear plans ,where as Amerikan leadership has Linda McMahon as the Secretary of Education and just flips on a dime based on whoever last spoke to Trump ,and the braindead Amerikan population applauds it on no matter what happens kuz its "Owning the libs"
>>40345020>leftists stop doing anything>republican trifecta passes republican agenda>wtf how could you do this to us Joe Biden?
>>40345048It boils down to
>do you support the HolocaustAnd then going
>WELL ITS A VRRY COMPLEX ISSUE LEMME THROW IN 100094 PARAGRAPHS SAYING NOTHINGIt's pitiful and only work on retards who think form is substance
>>40345034Leftists like MWAHnon will perish. Libs will be fine
>>40345033A huge amount of normal young people are left, like socdem at least, Marxist at most, huge amount of young people with intersectional views like preservation of the environment, anti-capitalism, anti-racism, etc etc
the election loss speaks for itself, so do the protests, the university lockdowns, etc
>>40345046it's not about the people who voted for Stein, it's about all the people who DIDN'T vote at all, the people who couldn't bring themselves to
>>40345058just go protest, throw bricks at windows, are you a coward?
>>40342839Yah like I understand what she means about the meaning of Zionism, but that is not the common understanding of the term in the conversation about the Palestinian genocide. So for someone who is clearly trying to be about practical or effective efforts, itโs really dumb
>>40345053>All of China's leadership are serious people with klear planstheir plans are so klear they killed 15-55 million of their own people to execute it and massacred thousands more who tried to protest their dictatorial bullshit in the red square
say what you want about america but that type of shit doesn't happen here
>inb4 kent state shootingnot comparable
>>40345080>just go protest, throw bricks at windows, are you a coward?Why should I?
>>40342248oh right, i forgot chuds cant read
>>40342239i really agree with this
>>40345070comparing gaza to the holocaust is incredibly disingenuous. The war in Gaza is most similar to the chechen wars (urban combat with a lot of shelling)
>>40345076Nah I doubt the rightoids will avoid doing shit to the rich trannies. He might flee though sadly and larp as a rรฉsistance fighter abroad.
>>40345080>it's about all the people who DIDN'T vote at allI thought we were talking about leftists?
I assure you there are way more people who don't vote than just leftists lmao, the numbers are basically all fairly normal give or take a few million or hunred thousands to red or blue except for 2020 which had mail in ballots extremely accessible which made voting easier and thus more people voted + people were less busy due to lockdowns
>>40345091I can make whatever comparison I want as a literal kike who had family deported during the Shoah.
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>>40345085well you don't have to but trans people are losing rights down there, Lia Thomas had her medals stripped away, you literally can't even be T anymore in the USA according to the orange man.
>>40345094I'm not rich and I don't even live in the USA but if I did I wouldn't have voted
I really hope Germans start killing random Polish civilians. I hope random poles start getting raped. Polish schoolbuses should be bombed by German freedom fighters. They deserve it for stealing German land in the 40s. This would accomplish a lot and is very useful.
>>40345102and I'm an Israeli jew whose had family deported from Iraq to Israel
it doesn't make your opinion any more valid akhi
>>40345110I am done trying to save hons from the consequences of their own delusional actions.
>>40345110Stay in your Canadian shithole and don't comment on US politics
>>40345124>deported from Iraq to IsraelLmao. I hope a missile finds you.
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>>40345135I'm a yapper, you don't have to reply to me it's a free country
>>40345080>"A huge amount of normal young people are left, like socdem at least, Marxist at most, huge amount of young people with intersectional views like preservation of the environment, anti-capitalism, anti-racism, etc etc"A lot of people are sokdem and basikally all libs believe in anti rasism and preserving the environment (though just in theory ,whenever it komes time to do anything about it "its not the right time, stop pushing for it") ,but very few normal young people are Marxist
And thank goodness ,fukk Marxizm ,it is good introduktory analysis but an ideology based on kold self interest is a terrible idea
>>40345082>"their plans are so klear they killed 15-55 million of their own people to execute"Awful lot of variation there
>"and massacred thousands more who tried to protest their dictatorial bullshit in the red square"Ya the US has its own terroristik domestik polisy
There's a reason so many people thought the CIA was behind 9/11 ,as its something they absolutely would do if they wanted to get the US into some foreign war
>"say what you want about america but that type of shit doesn't happen here"Ignore the gulags they're aktively setting up and shipping people to ,and the fasist hyper oppression that has already begun
China does that kinda shit too ,but the US does do its fair share of evil domestikally as well as abroad
>>40345139I'll be fine akhi
avarnu et paroh
na'avor gam et zeh
your diaspoo mentality is pretty cringe though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgVHyP2dNwo
>>40345123Painting NatSzi Germany as a viktim in this is KRAZY work
>>40345110Amerika kould never produse someone as based as MWAHnon
>>40345102>>40345139>uhm obey my idpol that says my opinion is worth more than yours because my family was pushed around to the right part of the globeUtterly insufferable cucked mindset
>>40345141Deporting people != Gulags
Iran is literally deporting millions of afghans at this moment nobody in the west even really cares. It's only western countries that are supposed to just have zero border policy
>>40345053When America established the hegemony they were more competent. China's kompetense won't last forever either.
>>40345168its just diaspora brain fry man, don't mind him, most diaspora jews I know are cool, the ones who screech stuff like that are extremely fringe and I usually its assume its a case of 'as a black man' syndrome
>>40345163>Painting NatSzi Germany as a viktim in this is KRAZY workGermany was the victim. World war 2 is a war between Germany and the Poles. It ended Poland ethnically cleansing millions of Germans, committing countless atrocities, and stealing German homes and lands based on thousand year old claims. The modern polish state is a colony built on stolen German land and the only solution is to mass kill poles, bomb them, kill them, rape them, women and children too, wherever they are found. It pleases God, and saves Germany's honor.
>>40345208this but for constantinople greece and turkey
>>40345174Have fun with your fasist 'empire'
My theory that fasizm arises in ex-empires in the plase of where leftizm would in any normal kountry appears to remain true
>>40345208This sounds like the bullshit Putin said in that joke of an interview
>>40345219>This sounds like the bullshit Putin said in that joke of an interviewSwap Poland for Israel and Germany for Palestine and it is word for word what you pro-pali people believe
>>40345163I'm just a leftist, most people I know irl who are well adjusted share all my views including emancipating Palestine, the global south, trans rights, etc
>>40345154>we are native to the region>just look at this poster of a blonde jewish IDF soldierWhat did the Israelis mean by this?
>>40345245Kritikal support to our komrades the Polish exiles in Britain ,in their fight against the NatSzi menase
>>40345265Most people you know irl are also probably Canadian
From my experiense tho ,while the other two are fairly kommon positions ,Canadians don't really think about the global South ,espesially sinse Canada and Canadians direktly profits off of their exploitation
>>40345265Do they also bounce on a Putins dick?
>>40345219If you can't read between the lines that making fun of people who want to have an eternal race war based on bad blood from events that happened the early half (of which there are many, I would never support killing random Polish civilians for the 'recovered territories', killing random Ukrainians for the actions of stepan bandera, killing random Turks for the Sayfo, Armenian genocide, Greek genocide, or even the ongoing Turkish occupation of cyprus, killing random Pakistanis for Hindu expulsions and vice versa, or continuing a pointless blood feud between pretty much all of the balkan states of the 20th century) rather than just accepting political realities and striving for peace than idk what to say
>>40345301why does fighting for the emancipation of the global south have to mean supporting Putin, a capitalist oligarch pig?
>>40345308you tell me commie
>>40345207It's just insane seeing people applying idpol to geopolitics instead of like, their own personal lives
>"as a black man" syndromeLiterally.
>>40345272do you not know who srulik is or what he represents?
>>40345354the OG was black and white too, he was a newspaper cartoon
>>40345272Did you know that if they don't go out in the sun and shave their beards many Arabs would pass as white? The prophet of Islam was literally a known for being gingers (picrel king of Jordan)
Obsession with skin color is unhealthy.
>>40345385unironically saw this dude in man united game once, propa geezer right here
>>40342433>she just doesn't want to destroy the genocidal settler-colonial apartheid regime currently occupying palestine and expel first and second generation european colonizers from the middle east, which in the minds of tankies basically means you must be excommunicated and morally equivalent to hitlerYes.
Well, I've traveled this ol' world of ours from Akron to Dubai
I've smoked an Injun's peace pipe and ate an Esmiko's pie
I've seen manticores in Myanmar and a Skunk Ape in the South
And made out with a meth head who still had teeth in his mouth
I've seen live Uighurs in China
And a priest who won't touch minors
But I've never met a nice Israeli Jew
"No, he's never met a nice Israeli Jew
And is that any surprise to you?
'Cause we're a bunch of arrogant bastards who hate brown people!"
I got prescription titty skittles after less than five years wait
And I know a ladies' restroom where AGPs don't masturbate
I know a stone butch dieseldyke who's not a raving terf
And I've met a Dark Souls fan who's fine that Havel's Ring got nerfed
I've met a non-autistic enby
And a Frenchman who was friendly
But I've never met a nice Israeli Jew
"No, he's never met a nice Israeli Jew
And is that any surprise to you?
'Cause we're a bunch of undiagnosed Cluster Bs who bite baby peckers!"
I've met black folks in Chicago who act more like men than apes
And I've dated cis-het women and they never once cried rape
And a few dysphoric boymoders who still let me give head
And I've even heard a decent song by that lol cow Imbred
I've met a furry, too
Who wasn't a filthy zoo
But I've never met a nice Israeli Jew
"No, he's never met a nice Israeli Jew
And is that any surprise to you?
Because unlike most Jewish folks, we've got no sense of humor!"
>>40345469I've met the Jersey Devil and he sounds just like Steve Blum
He runs his own discord server and bans creeps who try to groom
I know a place in London you can go and not get stabbed
And met a guy who worked for Lizzo she never forced to clean her flab
I've had a long pork bun
But I've not met Kim Jong Un
And I've never met a nice Israeli Jew
"No, he's never met a nice Israeli Jew
And is that any surprise to you?
'Cause we've never met one either..."
"Except for Gilad Atzmon, and he's emigrated to Britain."
"Yes, he's quite a nice Israeli Jew
He's hardly sucked baby dick, that's for true
And he's not smelly at all, that's why he's been fucking cancelled!"
Majority of Jews in Israel are mizrahim
>>40342239the issue with any jew or zionist is you give them an inch of sympathy and they expect to take over the world with it
They've lost all goodwill with people that aren't neocon boomers. They're screaming at us for being antisemites because we won't let them level an entire nationstate. They do such heinous shit and think they'll be protected by america forever. The only thing keeping Israel alive is the zionist roots in first world countries that have been growing for hundreds of years. They'd all be wiped it if it weren't for brainwashing of White people and their low IQ brown slave caste attack dogs.
>>40345523>The only thing keeping Israel alive is the zionist roots in first world countries that have been growing for hundreds of yearsThe only thing keeping it alive is that Israeli, including Arab Israeli, are quite happy with the state of Israel and would gladly defend their homeland from becoming another fundamentalist shithole.
>>40343160Yes thatโs why they built nukes to begin with? What was difficult to understand there
>>40345174This is suc a stupid statement that I had to kome bakk to it
Of kourse people in Western kountries are primarily konserned with the polisies of their own government ,whic THEY elekt and whic taxes THEM
Of kourse people in those kountries are going to fokus the efforts of their protests primarily on their own government
What ,?do you want people who advokate for less drakonian border kontrol measures to fly akkross the world to protest just so that you see them as "consistent"
Voting ,protesting or rioting in Amerika for Iran ,an enemy of the US ,to alter some internal polisy isn't really going to do anything you absolute retard
The US kan't even pressure Iran politikally ,given that they're literally AT WAR with them
What a stupid thing to say
>>40345304Its 4chan ,there are plenty of NatSzis here who genuinely believe that the Poles were the baddies in WWII
>>40345308Kalling kapitalists "pigs" is being rude to aktual pigs ,a largely innosent and harmless animal that is far too often a viktim of those same kapitalists you're trying to insult
>>40345548>Israel is a country that is obviously under existential threat.>IsPresent tense
ESL pajeet zioshitter
>>40344399This, trying to engage with the moralist left once youโve violated the dogma is as pointless as trying to engage with MAGAtards.
>>40342232 (OP)unless you're planning to go stand in front of the bullets, being more angrier at israel does effectively nothing for the next 4 years minimum.
it is impotent rage at best
Based Hontra doesn't bow to the Leftist Palestinian death cult
>>40345574>present tenseYes? Like what is your contention here lol
>israel is under existential threat >Israel built nukes because they are under existential threat You know possessing nuclear weapons doesnโt make the existential threat go away right? Theyโre just an insurance policy.
Iโm not a Zionist. I dont care about Semite blood feuds.
>>40345644>thing happens in the past>thing stops happening because another thing happens>thing is still happeninganon do you not know how time works?
>>40345666You're phenomenally low IQ
Kinda weird how jewish people even when given their own state still end up being hated by everyone who has to interact with them. Might be a pattern here along with their religion calling the rest of humanity their slavecattle, but idk guys, probably just imagining it.
>>40345708People are just mad about Jewish excellence, makes them feel insecure.
>>40345719True, couldn't have any relation to their own history books detailing the constant genocide of foreign peoples from any land they occupy as per the order from their own racial god. The master rac- sorry "God's Chosen" are simply superior, and the cattleslave are mad about it.
>>40345749The Jews made you incel and psyopped women into finding you unfuckable
>>40345773Same to you + chemically castrated yourself and turned into a dancing pronoun clown for their entertainment.
>>40345773actually the jews are just weird ethnonarcissists and just because people notice it and your dandruff and autism and how often you snort and spit like a schlub when you talk doesnโt mean they also believe in a grand conspiracy (that flatters your narcissism)
>>40345749Christians believe in the same God so from a theological and historical point of view I don't understand why Christians have deviated so much from their Jewish bretheren simply by believing Christ's story about being God's son.
>>40345829in christian theology the history of the jews was only orchestrated by God to birth the son of man that would unite the world.
>>40342232 (OP)literally who cares? why
>>40342239not reading all that
>>40345829Honestly I couldn't tell you why, the Torah (old testament) is basically a group of genocidal schizophrenic racists running around the place killing people because their god told them to (Some things never change, at least for this race). There are entire pages devoted to just naming people's sons and lineage because ensuring the person was of the Jewish race was that important. The New Testament reads like a completely different universe in comparison lol.
>>40344686>but spends all their effort attakking them instead of the rightif by that you mean
>never talks about the issue until people demand her to for years, then immediately gets attacked by leftists for not being extreme enough
>>40342652>A young, fledgling regime, which has recently had its colonists besieged on all sides by the natives, and its main centers of colonial population separate and vulnerable to liberation, seizing control of supply routes to their colonies.Sounds about right.
>Lebensraum is messy and people get displaced. That is why it is best not to start it.Agreed, and I wish the Zionist entity did too.
>>40344358>why do you support a population that's experiencing a genocide while living in an open air concentration camp? don't you know my strawman caricature of a palestinian would behead you immediately you privileged little shit!Why do you just assume everyone here is as broken as you are? How would the actual material conditions in Gaza allow for social progressivism to flourish??
>>40344425>It's the most obvious thing in the world that they are enemies of any worker's movementHi Langley! :D
>>40342232 (OP)>>40342239shes right on all accounts