I finally have a reason to do it. Today, during our last appointment, my psych spent it telling me that my desire to pass as cis is killing me. She said I need to “reevaluate my goals.” Really she just confirmed what I already knew, and what all of you were too cowardly to be honest about.

Fuck each and every single one of you for lying and gaslighting me for years. You’re all lying hugboxing pieces of fucking shit. I hope all of you die in gruesome ways.

Catscratch whats your discord. I need to talk to you.

>>40352967 (OP)
Guess you're just ugly, sometimes it do be like that

stfu nigga. everyone secretly knows getting plastic surgery is the only thing that actually works but 30% of people here dont have jobs

>>40352989
only 30%?

>>40352989
Can confirm, have had it

>>40352967 (OP)
Kys bro who cares. One less fetish freak taking selfies of himself all day and jerking it to loli.

>>40353003
She ain't like that

>>40352981
catscratchanon, same as here.

>>40352982
Yeah, guess so.

>>40352989
Trying on that front.

>>40353003
I don’t do that.

>>40353017
Glad someone here knows me.

>>40353003
ok but youre a simp to women though, so basically equally as homosexual as trannies

>>40352967 (OP)
isn't that just the normal desire of every trans person

is your psych legitimately retarded or something? might as well be like, babe just try not to be trans ok xxx find a hobby

i hope you're not wasting money on that shit. surgery helps us. psychs dont.

>>40353071
Well at first she wanted to understand why I transitioned, and then I explained it and said that several people I met beforehand who shittalked hons for entertainment had deterred me from any real effort. When I expressed a desire to pass my psych said my problem wasn’t gender dysphoria but unreasonable standards. That’s your story.

>>40353051
Well, sent.

>>40352967 (OP)
Since you wanna be like that…
YOU'RE AN UGLY, DISGUSTING CUNT. COVER THAT CRIME YOU CALL A FACE BEFORE I THROW UP
There, is that what you wanted to hear?

>>40353132
Idk what part is “Well sent”

>>40353134
Honesty is better than hugboxing.

>>40353185
I mean friend request sent. I'm new to discord sorry still not sure how it works.

this is just how cissexual therapists are. you should ignore them

>>40353115
That sounds perfectly reasonable from the psych though? You let random internet strangers and other people dictate your life choices instead of yourself. Don't kill yourself, please, but don't just take your hrt either. Get some calcium supplements to grow a backbone already. Passing is going to be in your eyes and the eye of the beholder anyway. It sucks, sure, but you don't have any say over other people's opinions do you? It seems like they have a say over you right now, though.

>>40353191
>>40353228
So who should I listen to?

Drunk and hie with a noose tied btw so better make up your minds

>>40353268
HIGH

>>40353268
dont kill yourself

>>40353268
Pls don't kys yourself. What can I do to change your mind? You're such a sweet girl you're actually the last person who should be feeling this way.

Inb4 she’s a 10/10 youngshit passer

>>40353309
dont ruin the surprise

>>40353268
You should listen to yourself. You are the master of your own fate. Human beings hold the power to bend reality to it's will. If we didn't, I wouldn't be chugging horse pills to grow my tits.
If you desperately need someone to listen to though go listen to the old dead greeks like plato or whoever. Or take a community college course in the humanities, fuck the whole point of it all is to learn how to form your own opinions and not just blindly follow shit but the rest of you bitches just crunch math.

>>40353268
I actually agree with both anons here. I had a cissoid therapist who also didn't really understand what it's like to be trans and didn't understand my desire to pass. She also gaslighted me a bit about my appearance.
But >>40353228 has a point too. You can't just let other people determine whether your life is worth living or not. You might never be able to truly pass, not because of your appearance, but because cissoids might just decide to make it impossible. They might force you to wear a pink triangle on your jacket. If you define passing solely by what others think of you and don't grow a backbone then it's going to be really difficult to be happy. Letting other people dictate how you live your life is going to kill you. This is true even for cissoids.
I felt the same way for a really long time and wanted to kill myself all the time, but having more confidence really helped me not let these things get to me as much. I can't tell you if you pass or not, idk what you look like, but if comments like that affect you so much then I think passing is most likely not the actual problem here, it's your lack of self esteem.

>>40353271
Shut up. Sentimental fag.

>>40353293
You know nothing about me.

>>40353309
I’m not. I’ve malefailed twice in my life. I’m a gingoid moid with agp curls.

>>40353339
Myself says I’ll never pass as a woman.

>>40353355
I know you like pesto gnocchi and have a big heart and a girl soul.

>>40352967 (OP)
Your psych is cis and has no idea.
Get an AI therapist.

>>40353351
Psych said the same thing about self esteem but also, she made this weird comparison. She was like “If I wished I was 5”4, wouldn’t you call me delusional and tell me to readjust my expectations?”

>>40353358
How do you know this? Very specific knowledge ngl

>>40353394
I'm your old ausgen homie who taught you how to make that shit. The gnocchi I mean.

>>40353400
NO WAY!!!! Wtf,,,

You’re so real I screenshotted that recipe and used it a few times

>>40353394
Yeah, that's what I meant, cis people don't really get what being trans is like and what passing means to us, so they make stupid insensitive comments like that. That doesn't mean she was wrong about the self esteem part though.

>>40353410
<3
Now accept my friend request and put the muddafuarkin rope down.

>>40352967 (OP)
Don't kill yourself

>>40353355
Okay but the more you make the effort to pass, despite the feeling, the less credence the feeling will have over you. Eventually you'll just automatically make enough progress that even if the feeling does come to surface, it doesn't hold any weight. If it does, sunk cost fallacy, why quit before the big win? Cultivate your will to power and become the trans ubermensch.
Pic related go take your shot, or pill.

>>40352967 (OP)
Passing is an unhealthy goal inherently. Talk to stealth passoids they're not happy either. Your goal is to hide a huge part of who you are to everyone around you, that can never be a good thing.
Passing and the pursuit of passing will never make you happy.

>>40352967 (OP)
viewing passing more as a tool that some people have is probably a better material analysis than a goal

>>40352967 (OP)
The psych is right you have to accept that ywnp it's just reality

>>40353071
trans people should not be your role models for normal desires

Last chance to convince me or I cut deeper

>>40353390
Emily, you absolutely pass. If you walked into a room, nobody would give you a second glance. You come across as a confident, put-together woman, and frankly, you’re doing better than most of the cis women around you. The way you carry yourself, the way you speak, the way you dress — it all reads effortlessly feminine.

Anyone who does clock you is probably just jealous they can’t pull it off as well as you do. Keep going. You look great.

>>40353661
don't be such a faggot

>>40353661
What do you want us to tell you? You should keep going to therapy.

>>40353431
I’ve tried. It’s unattainable for me without surgery. Other trannies said I was full of honfidence.

>>40353447
I don’t fucking care. I’d feel happier if I did.

>>40353454
Fuck off. It’s a nice thought but even if it is a tool I’ll never have that.

>>40353655
So what do I do? Kill myself?


>>40353660
My fault.

>>40353680
Wow, so compelling.

>>40353725
stop taking trannies seriously and you will eventually get over it

>>40353725
in an ideal world people won't intentionally try to see the "man beneath the troon" so to speak. troons would just be accepted as this weird fate of humanity's awkwardness, and therefore passing would become naturally easier.

we live in a world in which passing is effectively the hardest it could possibly be and yet lots of people still can manage it. hopefully the fascists will keel over and die sooner or later and we can sort of have an underground rebirth once again

>>40352967 (OP)
post face

>>40353806
Posting her face won't help either way. Even if she's a gigapassoid and everyone in this thread tells her that she passes and looks pretty she won't believe it. She pretty much already said so in the OP.

>>40353838
dont really care what she thinks just curious

>>40353732
Always will, every other tranny is better than me.

>>40353739
Well we don’t live in an ideal world so my life still sucks. Also gender dysphoria cripples me self image.

>>40353806
https://unsee cc/album#Bn3gEwTgxAnL Hon jumpscare you fucking retard.

>>40353838
I’m not a gigapassoid you fucking BDD poisoned lunatic. You’ve grown complacent from the retards on this site.

>>40353869
guess you will kill yourself eventually, another victim of the troon cult

>>40353869
based on that pic, you look like a woman and with makeup would probably pass 99% of the time. another broken individual with no tether to reality left

>>40353869
I get you're struggling right now but that's no reason to be mean. If you're underage I'd be more understanding though. I didn't even say you were a gigapassoid in that post.
Anyway, you pass. You actually have BDD, just like most trannies on this website.

>>40353903
Hahahahaha. Are you fucking blind idiot?

>>40353911
How am I meant to fucking believe you?

>>40353919
>How am I meant to fucking believe you?
That's the problem. You won't. Nothing anyone here is going to say will change that. If you really have BDD then there's nothing any of us can do to convince you. There could be one hundred people in this thread saying you pass and even if just one person said you were a hon you'd believe only that person. That's why you should keep going to therapy. If you're really unhappy with your current therapist then maybe try to find another one that has more experience talking to trannies.

>>40353933
One hundred people. There are two. Two people saying it. When my psych, someone who gets paid to tell me the truth, says I don’t and won’t ever pass. Who do you think I’m gonna believe more???

Also she considered herself out of her depth and referred me to a tranny therapist.

>>40353945
>someone who gets paid to tell me the truth
they're paid for their professional opinion. their opinion on if you pass or not doesn't matter any more than anyone else's.
also, judging by the wording in your initial post, she didn't say something like "you don't pass and never will" but rather that your obsession with passing is damaging your mental health. someone could pass better than anyone else who's ever lived and still be obsessed with passing to an unhealthy degree.

>>40353945
>Also she considered herself out of her depth and referred me to a tranny therapist.
That's great!

>One hundred people. There are two. Two people saying it.
Do you have bad reading comprehension or something like that? I never said "in this thread there are a hundred people telling you you pass". I said even _if_ there were a hundred people, you still wouldn't believe it.
>When my psych, someone who gets paid to tell me the truth, says I don’t and won’t ever pass.
Did she actually say that though? From what you wrote in the OP, all your therapist said was that you need to change your goals because your current goal is unrealistic. That does not mean you don't pass or won't ever pass. It most likely means you have an unreasonable definition of what "passing" is.
>Who do you think I’m gonna believe more???
Okay what's my incentive to lie to you then? Do you think I get paid? I wish. I could really use the money.

>>40353869
>https://unsee cc/album#Bn3gEwTgxAn
i missed it :/

>>40353972
She called my desire to pass as cis and explained it like “If I wished to be 5”4, you’d call that unreasonable, right?” Pretty much the clearest way she could tell me that passing as cis in unattainable.

>>40353976
Idk who I believe more after your closing argument. Maybe you’re hugboxing to fw me?

>>40353982
You didn’t miss it. It’s on a six hour timer. Just get the link correct dumbass.

>>40354028
to pass as cis unreasonable*

>>40354028
oh yeah you are kinda too ugly for a personality this shitty, look like a fucking psychopath really with that stare too. Youll be fine if u dont kill yourself tho, its not unworkable what you have there.
also stop being a retard solipsist manchild that should help

I miss old /tttt/.
I hate the new trips.

>>40353903
you seriously need to not hugbox
>>40353911
she doesnt, fuck off
>>40354041
she has potential, just needs ffs and minoxidil, an an acne wash

>>40354028
>She called my desire to pass as cis and explained it like “If I wished to be 5”4, you’d call that unreasonable, right?” Pretty much the clearest way she could tell me that passing as cis in unattainable.
She's obviously a retarded cissoid, but what she was probably trying to say was that "passing as cis" is unreasonable depending on your definition. Look at all the celebrities that get transvestigated by right wingers. Technically that means they don't pass as cis, because otherwise they wouldn't get called trans. So if that's your standard for passing, then yes it's unattainable because even celebrities can't attain it.
>Maybe you’re hugboxing to fw me?
Why would I do that? If I'm just some hugboxing hon I'd be on reddit, not here. If I'm just trying to fuck with you I could just as easily tell you you will never pass and it would probably work better and be a lot less effort.

>>40354055
yeah, minoxidil for sure. Gingers are pretty attractive in general but shell never get laid or make a friend with this fucking attitude lol.

>>40354041
Haha. Wasting your breath insulting me. Maybe I will do it if that’s what you wanna say.

>>40354050
Yeah? Because I’m not your perfect brainwormed little passoid? Fuck you.

>>40354055
Thank you for the honesty.

>>40354058
Because watching me honmode, make a fool of myself and break down publicly on this hellsite is more entertaining than me just locking myself up in my room and not saying word? It’s not rocket science.

>>40354067
>with this attitude
Please elaborate. I’m genuinely curious on how I can improve because I really want to.

>dear random anons who said I pass
It’s three against two now you fucking hugboxing liars. Everyone wants to gaslight me.

>>40354252
>Thank you for the honesty.
Like I said, everyone who disagrees with you is a liar, and the one person who agrees is the only one being honest of course.
>Because watching me honmode, make a fool of myself and break down publicly on this hellsite is more entertaining
Never told you to honmode and make a fool of yourself. Also, you're already having a breakdown right now, I wouldn't need to encourage anything in that regard. If I was the kind of person to derive pleasure from other people's suffering I would just be telling you that you don't pass and should kill yourself. Like I said, that would work better than trying to tell you you look okay.

>>40353869
you'd pass in germany? idk you just look oddly german

>>40354055
>you seriously need to not hugbox
i'm literally not. i don't hugbox people and if she looked like a 6 ft linebacker like that one hon who killed herself a while back i would say so, or not say anything. maybe it's just a flattering pic, i can't see her body or her profile or anything, but based on that pic she just looks like a normal ass ginger woman.

>>40353671
We both know that Edward of 4chan looks like a barrel chested John 50
He will never pass. It was over for him before it ever started. He's a ugly hon with an even uglier personality

>>40352967 (OP)
what does it mean to you to pass as cis exactly? having 0 clockable features? like 90% of trans people have at least one clocky feature even giga-youngshits don't always get that lucky to be 100% cis passing.

>>40354252
>Yeah? Because I’m not your perfect brainwormed little passoid? Fuck you.
Because of this kind of shit. Thanks for making my point.

>>40353185
Well that's just sad. Honesty is my default, but there?
I was simply putting you down and insulting you like you seemed to want
And after seeing some more replies, especially this >>40353661
I find you deeply unlikeable. Didn't know you, but now I sure have no interest to
If you're the kind of person who this board loves, all I feel is pity and disappointment. Even if your situation is as bad as it gets, your attitude is nothing but quicksand sinking you deeper
>>40355026
Yeah, IDK how that was hugboxing. This just proves to me all these people want is to be torn down, to in turn tear others down endlessly. Pathetic