Thread 40358222

why did you let this20yo man consent to transition, /tttt/?
apologize right fucking now

>>40358222 (OP)
>you should let mentally unwell people cut body parts off
how about no and fuck you OP

captcha: HWAGP

>>40358222 (OP)
Isnt that this nigger who's basically hrtrepping because of a botched srsussy?

>>40358222 (OP)
I can’t take male detrooners seriously if they still take E and I can’t take female detrooners seriously if they don’t get implants

>>40358222 (OP)
while i agree informed consent is important
if i had to do that for every retard's bad decision this thread would be years long

>>40358222 (OP)
>another husstuss detransitions and makes a big deal out of it
agps were always the trutrans, just cause they're ugly doesnt make them not trutrans

>>40358284
if trannies want to keep any rights they should probably stop agitating for seriously mentally ill people to transition without any attempt at gatekeeping or differential diagnosis

>>40358236
you need a serious psychiatric condition to be denied the right to self-agency. Can you show me his diagnosis for a serious condition like that from that time?
Something like severe schizophrenia or late-stage dementia should be enough

>>40358311
honestly if they're retarded enough to not realize estrogen will make them infertile it's better off we sterilize them

>>40358311
Like that woman in a wheelchair that had cerebral palsy(?) and they had her go through top surgery?

>>40358311
why? detransitioners arent killed by hrt. so what if they become infertile? just adopt.

>>40358318
did they even bother looking or attempting to figure out the cause behind him wanting to transition?

>you need a serious psychiatric condition to be denied the right to self-agency.
self-agency does not include the right to diagnose yourself

>>40358330
>so what if we give you the wrong treatment?
hot take, severely mentally ill people should get the treatment appropriate for them even if they get fixated on trooning out

>>40358222 (OP)
I can't be held responsible for you not listening to the 6 doctors you encountered over like 6 years and you never once bothered to listen of ask them questions or Wikipedia your own condition. Sounds like you're too stupid to breed and it was the right decision for the human race. Take 1% accountability of your own life.

>>40358333
>did they even bother looking or attempting to figure out the cause behind him wanting to transition?
yeah, and determined it was gender dysphoria

>>40358341
>>40358311
>seriously mentally ill
>severely mentally ill

i'm still waiting for that photo of his severe schizophrenia diagnosis to back up your claims guys!

>>40358344
really, what criteria did they use for differential diagnosis? how did they know he wasn't schizophrenic, psychopathic or fixated.

oh right, there aren't any and there never were.

>>40358341
as far as things severely mentally ill ppl do, transitioning isnt really significant

>>40358222 (OP)
>This poor 20 year old baby cut off her penis
:(

>>40358360
cutting your dick off is in fact quite significant

>>40358372
not really tbdesu

>>40358358
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK577212/table/pediat_transgender.T.dsm5_criteria_for_g/

>>40358386
you don't know what a differential diagnosis is do you

>>40358326
cerebal palsy often doesnt have cognitive effects so yeah chop them tits

>>40358397
are you too retarded to use google or your common sense? Do you want me to also post the criteria for schizophrenia or the other illnesses you mentioned to show you how a differential diagnosis is made?

>>40358326
neither cerebral palsy nor being in a wheelchair are cognitive disabilities or mental illnesses and they shouldn't have any bearing on your ability to consent to medical procedures

>>40358326
how is cerebral palsy with no effects on reasoning relevant? Should people with no legs be banned from getting a nosejob?

why weren't my rights infringed upon?! why was i allowed to make a decision about my own body as a citizen of my free democratic country?! REEEEEEEE

>>40358862
>trust the medical experts(they have no responsibility to be correct)
hmm...

>>40358910
>you should be a mental infant relying on everybody to do everything, including thinking, for them for the entirety of your life

>>40358862
Dostoyevsky breakdancing in his grave rn

>>40358928
so you're saying don't trust the experts because there is no accountability anywhere.

genuine retardation
profoundly naive thank fuck you detransitioned moron ahahah
>cut my cock off? sure whatever im never gonna need it again anyway
looooooooooooooooooool

>>40358910
you retarded fucking child, you trust yourself. you have the responsibility, not the surgeons you pay, not the doctors you've gone out of your way to convince to prescribe you. grow up.

>>40358956
>you trust yourself.
If I have a medical problem I'd rather trust medical experts but you do you.

>you have the responsibility,
not my responsibility to make the correct diagnosis and administer the correct treatment.

>>40358910
>the medical experts told me I would become infertile... and I did! NOOOOOOOOOOO

>>40358999
>medical experts told me I'd literally DIE if I don't take drug X because it's life saving treatment

>>40358996
>>40359012
if it was an incorrect treatment why do they still take estrogen even after "detransitioning"

>>40359017
well, if you don't take any sex hormones your bones crumble

>>40359022
they could take testosterone, but choose to take estrogen instead

>>40359017
crossed the point of no return.

>>40358222 (OP)
Detransitioners are so weird about it because they never seem to blame it on their shitty friends or society, but on the doctors for "tricking" them, like they didn't know that the testosterone would make them grow body hair or that getting your dick inverted would prevent you from siring children.

>>40358449
>>40358484
>>40358488
The person was physically unable to speak and didn't even have enough motor control to be able to communicate via writing

>>40358222 (OP)
>>40358236

>>40358222 (OP)
>Feels kinda off
>Immediately gets the most invasive surgery physically possible in the modern age
>Regrets it and detransitions
>Blames trans people

Sounds like a skill issue. I waited three years on HRT before getting any surgeries to ensure I was serious. If you're an adult and you rush into this it's your own damn fault and you gotta live with the consequences

Since when did we make laws only to protect failures in this country?

>>40358222 (OP)
1. i didn't
>tell professionals how you feel
>they (presumably) diagnose you with a psychiatric disorder for which there is medicine
>you get and take the medicine
if you don't want this how can you justify any healthcare ever

>>40360328
1. If we're tallkng about the same person, they were talking in the video.
2. They finished university.

>>40358222 (OP)
He gave his pp the Tony Tony Chopper, huh? Big fan of One Piece myself. Wouldn't go that far however.

>>40358222 (OP)
I’m sorry

>>40358222 (OP)
waaaah i made a bad decision because of personal issues, ruin everything for everybody please

these people are retarded imho. ive made plenty of awful decisions and pretty much ruined my life and least i have the self awareness to realize its my fault whether or not im unwell

>>40358222 (OP)
IMO we should castrate retards forcefully. This RETARD castrated himself willingly. I fail to see any kind of problem, or any kind of blame on anyone else save for the retard who willingly got himself castrated.

>>40358222 (OP)
based af fate

>>40358298
worst take in thread

>>40358298
>>40363013
gays like cock, on others and on themselves. higher chance for them to regret srs.
>wondering how i can tie youtuber Maya Henry in here, who is HSTS and had srs.

>>40363535
this is why penile preserving SRS is based

>>40358996
how is trangenderism anything like going into a doctor's office and getting diagnosed with arrythmia or sickle cell or whatever the fuck?
it's clearly a psychological issue, which doctors have nothing to do with.
>>40359012
>public statements made by doctors and scientists supporting hrt as an effective treatment
and so how does this prevent people from making their own assessments as to whether they're trans?
a person can specifically seek out a diagnosis or prescription but diy exists, online sellers exist, even sanctioned 'clinics' in the UK. they do not require anything except a person's own belief that they are trans and the money required to purchase the hrt. they did not require a doctor's approval and if you do maybe you should put yourself out of your own misery.

>>40363562
>it's clearly a psychological issue, which doctors have nothing to do with.
there are almost no true psychological issues. most psych issues are genetic, its just that medical treatment for psychiatric conditions is so laughably abysmal we barely care to apply any of the research we do on them.

>>40358222 (OP)
Making this about consent is obviously retarded, but I think there is a point to be made about misinformation, or lack of information. Obviously, its in a surgeon's best interest to downplay the risks of a surgery (any surgery, not just tranny stuff) so that he can make money. It should be the job of the trans community to gatekeep and make it clear to newbies that what they're getting into isn't all rainbows and sunshine.

>>40362874
Ok, but studies show most trannies are smarter than average, you know that, right?

>>40358222 (OP)
This poor 20 year old child.

I have a nephew who is 3 years old, he is identical. Just an oblivious toddler. How could the doctors do this! Patient consent is not compatible with modern society!!!

>>40358318
I have severe schizophrenia. Like really bad, I have to stop myself screaming and crying at people in public

I'm also trans and I am very glad thailand only care about one thing: can you pay. Yes I can

>>40358271
everyone wants to be a right wing grifter but no one wants to really seriously commit to it

>>40359026
That anon didn't say a fucking word lol

>>40358222 (OP)
>blaming everyone around you for your choices
>still fembrained
When will detroon learn?

>>40363988
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HOLY FUCKING PSEUD

>>40363562
I'm not sure what your point here is. If someone went to the doctor then doctors have something to do with their transition. If someone didn't but rather DIY'd everything then obviously it's not a case of medical malpractice but I don't think anyone is claiming that.

>>40365056
you are the sole poster that uses that word on this board and nobody ever replies to you positively

>>40358318
>you need a serious psychiatric condition to be denied the right to self-agency
A fixation on self mutilation is typically classified as one such serious condition that treatment typically involves a restriction of self agency

>>40366974
why would i want pseuds to respond to me positively faggot

>>40369238
i think its more that you can only see pseuds
i wonder what it was that affected you so

>>40369307
pop evopsych is just hilarious that's all, especially since it has nothing to do with actual evopsych. the guy is clearly a pseud.
you do realise i make posts where i don't call people pseuds, right?

>>40369319
why are you pulling unrelated words out of your ass?