what do you think

>>40360710 (OP)
Don't let people shame you for how you feel about yourself and your self image :< even if disliking your ethnicity isn't equivalent to gender dysphoria. It's still a valid feeling. Maybe you can dye your hair or get contacts if you like the look, use slightly paler makeup than your constitution etc.

I'm flattered you find out traits desirable at all but don't forget to love yourself! <3

>>40360734
>out
*our

I'm so stupid ._.

>>40360710 (OP)
as long as ur goal isnt to become white. Love urself, ur different + special

>>40360727
Would doing so hurt me by setting up unrealistic expectations?

I've experimented with CD and wigs and have found that I pass the best with black wigs because I've got naturally black hair

>>40360789
i mean as long as you dont obsess over looking white/having white facial features

>>40360796
Have seen transphobes use the same logic, like "stop obsessing over looking female/having female facial features"

>>40360819
obsess over womens facial features in general. if u try to make urself look white when ur not ur gonna look like a drag queen

I love Asians. I wish I could stop envying them

>>40360710 (OP)
I mean I also kind of hate myself for being asian but you're never going to look white so why the fuck would that even be a transition goal

>>40360914
Why do you hate yourself for being asian? They're usually pretty and thin and smart and age well. They almost never become homeless or drug addicts or have single parents. Also asian countries are moving up in the world and they outearn whites in our own countries. They kill themselves less often. They commit less crime. They have much stronger ethnic self-concepts and pride than white people. I hate being an inferior woid

>>40360914
Because I wanna dress like this so badly ;(

>>40360980
???
and asians can't wear those clothes?

>>40360980
Is it just the clothing?

>>40361190
and the hair, and the hair color, and the body shape, and the facial features, and the voice, and the...

>>40361198
Our voices are different?

>>40361386
"Our"? No I meant with the cis white long-haired female in the pic, or this.

Sorry for not clarifying initially, but I'm pre-everything. No HRT, no SRS, definitely no social transition. Just "hey I think I hate masculinity and wanna try out femininity" to a few trusted friends (and none of my unsupportive parents) + the occasional crossplay for which I don't look good.

>>40360710 (OP)
don’t do that you’ll just develop race dysphoria like me
>>40360979
>usually pretty
lol no
>thin
Look up skinny fat
>smart
No
>age well
only bc Asians stay out of the sun
And everything else you said only applies to Asian immigrants in the west

>>40360734
race dysphoria is considerably worse than gender dysphoria

white women as transition goals is an easy lucrative target because their proportions are always big

>>40360710 (OP)
Most cis asians use white people as their transition goals

>>40360710 (OP)
not unless you want to lose hope

>>40360979
My parents are Chinese and transphobic

I remember my mom being controlling of my hairstyle as a kid and not letting me even TRY growing my hair long

My aunt (mom's sis) was my barber for the first 12 years of my life

Incidentally, every woman on my mom's side of the family has short Chinese Karen haircuts, so honestly wouldn't even be surprised if they gave me shitty Asian bowl cuts too even if I were born female

Like, they threatened to take my iPad away if I didn't obey them and go with them to haircuts

It sucked, and while some progress HAS been made, they still control me today in a lot of ways. And they remain transphobic, having even voted for Trump in 2024. Ideally things would be better, but it's 2025 and the job market sucks ass. Trying my best to change that, but for now, I'm stuck with mom.

My parents very nearly saw this thread

>>40366398
this never makes sense to me bc long hair for men is very traditional for china and maintaining European hairstyles is incredibly difficult for Asian hair

>>40368035
Asians like to pretend they are living in 1960's America

>>40368035
>>40368060
Hasn't been since 1911.

And even the long hair of 1644-1911 was queues most Han Chinese found repulsive, because the government in charge was the Manchu barbarian Qing dynasty.

Should also mention that even after I was 12, my subsequent (and current) barber was also ethnically Chinese (and a Mainlander... and a Protestant). And he was also in my face about how shit I'd look if I were to grow my hair long.

Unfortunately, I probably wouldn't come anywhere near passing at present EVEN IF my hair were perfectly like any of those women. (And trust me, I've tried using wigs, filters, etc.) I've got a deep voice, shit skin, facial hair, a masculine body shape, etc.

Maybe if I had more support, or if I'd socially transitioned at a younger age, like elementary school, things could've gone significantly better. Just look at Kim Petras.

And inb4 "your porn addiction is related to trans", I'm repulsed to, like, skimpy sexy clothes, or like those bunny outfits, etc. I can't stand gay, lesbian, or straight porn, and dgaf when PH shut down in like late 2020.

>>40368179
short hair in china is solely due to western influence tho and more importantly Asian hair is too stiff to easily hold in a lot of western short hairstyles
i think its interesting that indigenous Americans who have the same hair type also have a deep culture around long hair much like the han, Asian hair is just better suited to be long bc its low maintenance

>>40366398
Asian parents are super controlling, I went on a date with this cute Asian guy and his parents literally track him by phone even though he goes to college halfway across the country.

>>40368470
Which generation immigrant was he?

>1st gen = born in China, immigrated as an adult / college or after
>1.5 gen = born in China, immigrated as a kid / teen
>2nd gen or higher = born in the US

I'm 2nd gen.

Also I'm assuming you're a femanon since again, there's no way a kid with that restrictive of an upbringing would have parents even remotely tolerant of same-sex relationships.

A lot of libs cope about ancient Chinese culture being more accepting of what we'd now call LGBTQ before the evil colonists arrived and ruined it, but that's massive cope imo. Remember, we're talking about a society that practiced footbinding and restricted women from appearing outside of their homes, which is pretty much Afghan levels of misogyny.

Honestly I'm not sure if I'd rather be a white American man or a Chinese American woman if I were forced to choose between the two. Maybe my psychologist was right about me not being LGBTQ (or at most, cis and gay) and it just being a massive cope to avoid having to go to church.

>>40360727
NGL you have odd transition goals. Even among trans people

>>40366398
I don't envy controlling families but it'll never change that I see you as biologically superior desu