Thread 40377798

Why do LGBT people simp for Islam so much?

Oh no, not the pride flags on city property!

>>40377798 (OP)
because islam is the truth

>>40377798 (OP)
having faith and participating in organized religion is a good thing.

Islam is the only mainstream religion sympathetic to trans people.

>>40377891
lol

>>40377798 (OP)
They don't simp for Islam.
They want Islam to be their weapon to bring down Western civilisation, after which Islam will voluntarily leave the West to those left behind and only limit themselves to the Middle East where they will write songs, and host huge parties celebrating the heroism of those that wanted to overthrow Western civilisation...

Right?

>>40377798 (OP)
as an exmuslim tranny: stupid fag gets what she deserves. theres no saving europistan anymore at this point anyway

>>40377798 (OP)
Because the most active people on the left are anti-west/white and most LGBT and other democrats/liberals like most people, enjoy being followers.
Fortunately it seems we're seeing the democrats/liberals finally understand that leftists are a retarded groups that lead to where we are today (with trump for a president, again).

>>40377992
Islam is pro white though and muslims love westerners, at least the ones from the mena region

>>40377963
If we reversed 700 years of Muslim occupation in Spain we can reverse this

>>40378058
What happened to Spain was a bunch of Arab rulers lording over a Christian populace, not wholesale demographic replacement. The latter is almost always irreversible

>>40377798 (OP)
I mean this is the fundamental problem with all the intersectionality multiculturalism bs no one else in the world believes in it so its just like shooting yourself in the foot

>>40377963
Inshallah, he leads you back to the right path

>>40378058
yurop should just stop taking in mozlems now if they dont want sharia law in 10 years

>>40378122
ill believe it when i see allah's big godly cock in my ass

>>40377891
...in iran
here in the west, judaism has featured all sorts of gender variance for eons

>>40378103
>What happened to Spain was a bunch of Arab rulers lording over a Christian populace
This is highly disputed and depends on the time and region within Iberia
>not wholesale demographic replacement. The latter is almost always irreversible
Kazakhstan was once 30% Kazakh and now it's back to 70%
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Kazakhstan
Thirdie birth rates are themselves falling sharply. We've taken over plenty of places as minorities initially, and with climate change putting stress on population pressure and increasing anti western sentiment, plus automation making migrants redundant, I don't see borders getting more welcoming. Most euro countries are still over 80% white and any future wars will mostly kill urbanites

>>40377891
Because of mental illness, remember all the isis bride's that joined isis , and ended up in breeding mills.
Same thing with transgender people, there is no transgender people in Palestine, you can legally kill transgender women in Palestine.

>>40377798 (OP)
negtaively polarized themselves because rw christians hate muslims so much only to realize abrahamic religions hate queers on the whole

Western lgbt people live in a void of meaning

They think death is abstract, so they support ideologies that call for their death, because they don't genuinely believe people when they say they would kill us for Allah.

Instead what they hear is "we are oppressed and what appears as religious fanaticism is actually geopolitical grievance due to economic inequality"

They don't actually understand religious or what fundamentalism is, they think its just lip service and when Islam takes over it will be just like Christianity where they say a few words then go back to sin.

It will not be like Christianity.

>>40378284
>Same thing with transgender people, there is no transgender people in Palestine, you can legally kill transgender women in Palestine.

Been this way for a very, very long time. Western lgbt people don't give 1% of a fuck about middle Eastern lgbt people, in fact the opposite, they like that they are killed.

It gets rid of the inconvenience of supporting murderous people

>>40377798 (OP)
i dont

>>40378440
You are mad at West ?
Or Islamic law ?
You don't western influence but will allow your own race, religion, laws to kill LGBT Q in the middle east.
no one can change this so why support terrorist.

>>40377891
no it's not lmao, forcibly transitioning gays is not sympathetic to trans people

>>40378401
>Instead what they hear is "we are oppressed and what appears as religious fanaticism is actually geopolitical grievance due to economic inequality"
this really is the crux of it, I've had so many arguments where people argued that "well look at all the rich countries they're progressive" without realizing they have the cause and effect completely backwards. The west is economically successful BECAUSE it's liberal, wealth doesn't make people magically stop imprisoning gays and slaughtering infidels

>>40378440
Why should I care about people thousands of miles away who have attacked western people previously?

>>40378401
>Western lgbt people live in a void of meaning
More like western people in general lol
But don't worry, we're finding it again :)

>>40378688
They just go back to barbarians look at Afghanistan, chechna, and many Muslim run countries.
So support Islam and be LGBT Q is mentally ill.

>>40378646
Saudi Arabia isn't even poor

>>40377798 (OP)
the foolishness of intersectionality

>>40377812
also this, there's nothing in hamtramck law against flying the pride flag on your own property, why does it have to be on govt buildings?
>>40377963
this is hamtramck michigan it's a suburb of detroit

>>40378841
Because of the USA. At least women can drive now. Talk about behind the times.
American have done great things in America that they could never do in their home country

>>40377945
This. Everyone thinks that they can take down the system so their ideology can take over but it generally doesn't work that way.

>>40377891
There are definitely more progressive Christians in this country than Muslims.

>>40377874
>thing that has caused insane amount of wars and death for all time is good actually because uhm well because I say so!!!!!

>>40378401
>"we are oppressed and what appears as religious fanaticism is actually geopolitical grievance due to economic inequality"
it's literally true, just more like lack of education and being backwater shitholes. Can you for example explain how christian Uganda basically reintroduced death penalty for fags?
>it will be just like Christianity where they say a few words then go back to sin.
I hate islam as much as everyone else but christian fundamentalists are literally exactly the same, they just have to play pretend or they would be immediately flagged as terrorist organisation in every western country

>>40377798 (OP)
Pulse night club massacre, done by a Muslim extremist, what did the gays do ?
The gays said the shooting was gay and not an extremist. This was a lie by gays there was no proof of the shooter being gay and the gays that sleep with him had no proof.
Mentally ill LGBT Q saying it was a gay issue and not Muslim extremist
Biden's last year in office, more murders of transgender women that went unsolved than any other time, the trend remains the same today, unsolved murders of transgender women.

>>40377798 (OP)

Chickens for kfc. Why should we welcome these morons into our country of they hate western values so much? Keep them in their shithole.

>>40378920
every "religious" war in human history was motivated by money and power. there is zero (0) difference between the crusades and the war in Vietnam. wars have continued without religious pretexts and they always will.

>>40379801
Wrong. Most crusaders went home with no material enrichment. The crusader states weren't even colonies.

I understand what you're saying to some extent but religion was very important in motivating the masses to war and I think you underestimate how seriously premodern people took schisms

>>40378992
>it's literally true
Even wealthier and more powerful Muslim states like Saudi Arabia and Iran have funded state terror globally, and they were fine with religious violence when Europe was weaker than the middle east. India is even poorer and Muslims still target it

>>40377963
If Trump succeeds with mass deportations in the USA which is 50% brown then Europe is easily possible

>>40377798 (OP)
Because its 'left coded' to simp for islam

>>40379911
crusader states existed to be settler-colonialist enterprises by and for landless men from francophonic Europe. the fourth crusade was expressly about seizing constantinople and all its riches because Dandelo was blinded by the Roman Emperor and wanted revenge.

the rapid expansion of the Caliphate was similar.

while we're talking about crusader states everyone forgets about the Northern/Baltic crusades.

>>40377798 (OP)
>Why do LGBT people
Not all do. I personally hate Islam

>>40377798 (OP)
Too much empathy I guess

>>40379943
>crusader states existed to be settler-colonialist enterprises by and for landless men from francophonic Europe
There was never any intention of racially replacing the middle east with European people, local Christians were sides with, they operated as largely independent states with their own ports that generated significant revenue. This narrative was entirely invented by 19th and 20th century Arab romantic nationalists. Before that, the crusaders weren't even considered particularly notable opponents and Saladin was more remembered in the West than East. It was a region with a long line of warfare and the seljuks were hardly native
>the fourth crusade was expressly about seizing constantinople and all its riches because Dandelo was blinded by the Roman Emperor and wanted revenge
I feel you're being obtuse in choosing a notably disastrous example which had no real long lasting impact... and also was not part of a colonial "mission"
>while we're talking about crusader states everyone forgets about the Northern/Baltic crusades.
I'm well aware. They were also religiously motivated and partially because efforts at voluntary conversion were piecemeal or failed

>>40380005
>There was never any intention of racially replacing the middle east with European people

that's because they thought of each other as fellow Christians at first

>This narrative was entirely invented by 19th and 20th century Arab romantic nationalists.

tell that to the people who set up the Crusader states and brought in people from the mother countries

>I feel you're being obtuse in choosing a notably disastrous example which had no real long lasting impact... and also was not part of a colonial "mission"

oh, so you know nothing about the period, gotcha. the rest is discarded

>>40380020
>that's because they thought of each other as fellow Christians at first
There were conflicts between Christians even in the first crusade and the fact that Jews were targeted at home shows the primary motivation was clearly religious
>tell that to the people who set up the Crusader states and brought in people from the mother countries
Virtually all wars involve foreign conscripts, most did not permanently settle in the Levant and were not promised such. The idea of a united European race wasn't a concept at the time, unlike Christendom
>so you know nothing about the period, gotcha. the rest is discarded
Period? It was multiple separate religious wars over 180 years with the Fourth completely ignoring Egypt. And historians do not consider the crusades a form of colonialism, let alone settler colonialism which explicitly involves extermination of native people

>>40377798 (OP)
because they are stupid enough to trust any abrahamic

>>40380005
You're trying to talk some sense to a triptroon, a futile endeavour.

>>40377798 (OP)
conservative religious chuds who want to slaughter gay people, own slaves, and rape children are ok as long as they have brown skin

>>40377798 (OP)
Masochism

>>40377798 (OP)
Because Muslims=brown and brown=victim. I'm serious it really is that simple. Most lgbts are cought up in group think so they can never question such logic.

>>40377891
Hinduism practically has a tranny god

>>40377963
No it's never to late. So what was growing up muslims like?

>>40378186
So here's the thing if wars did break out 3rd worlders would be fucked because whites are just that much smarter.

it's been a long time coming but the leftoid's cognitive dissonance resulting from wokeness and their savior complex of unwoke brown third worlders finally caught up with them and not only lost them an unloseable presidential election, but all three branches of the government. attention payers predicted this.

>>40378284
I think you can pretty much kill anyone in Palestine.

>>40377798 (OP)
Almost 60% of muslims are pro gay marriage while only about 40% of christians are

>>40378992
Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar vastly outstrip the UK in terms of geopolitical relevance and economic dynamism. They kill us there.

Yemen, Somalia and Eritrea are both desperately poor. They kill us there.

>>40379194
Crippled by ideology. I wouldn't even mind if we hated everyone equally, but its this selective treatment that's infuriating.

Hate black men as much as you hate white men. Hate Islam as much as you hate Christianity.

I've been treated badly by every group, I make no excuses they're all fucking cunts. Anyone who harms me when I'm going about my lawful, peaceful business should be hanged

>>40382243
Sadly true. Forget that there are 2.3 billion Muslims with entire regions under the influence of their fundamentalist ideology, they're poor victims.

And we should respect their desire to kill us, otherwise we may be excluded from the group

>>40379935
>which is 50% brown
you're retarded

Deportations NOW. Remigration NOW. Install automatic turrets on the border NOW.

t. ranny

70% of spaniards support mass deportations. Reconquista is cooking, bros! Prepare and save a new suit for the "fun parties" hahahaha

>>40382554
>>40382543
Problem reaction solutions

Arabs are hot. Full stop

>>40382554
>>40382543
Problem reaction solution

>>40377798 (OP)
Islam has since the 1940s positioned itself as anti-western, decolonial, and counter-cultural. It makes sense that people that feel as if "western hegemony" has been no friend to them might make common cause. I think this has been proven to be foolish many times in recent history. Religions do not compromise with leftists, feminists and other people like that, they run you over.
Trans people are a special case as their priorities are not strictly political but based in physiological needs. You see them more willing to accept conservative positions because as long as society gives them their meds and allows transition they will put their heads down and take it. They don't need to live in a liberal society, they don't need equity between men and women, they don't want to disrupt family values or be visible, they just want to change their sex and be left alone.

>>40378401
It's like that bear in the woods question. People want their rhetorical statements to be taken literally at the same time.

>>40377798 (OP)
They falsely attribute their own oppression as sexual minorities to racial minorities to think they are kindred spirits, when if anything their best lives would be lived in a nationalist country that doesn't torture its own citizens for having unique sexual interests. Thats why.

>>40377798 (OP)
Libs are retarded big suprise

>>40382690
In the good timeline it would be a final solution, but alas I think we don't learn from history...

>>40382554
I still don't get why white libs are trying to save them after the election. They voted to fuck them over with Donald and seem to want Ice so let Ice take as many of them legal or illegal and by year 4 many conservatives are gone.

>>40383252
but every nationalist movement in the west is extremely anti-trans, you have to look at countries like Japan, Iran, Phillipines to see this model

>>40377798 (OP)
It's not rocket science. LGBT people tend to be mostly liberals and leftists. The left has been taught to be overly sympathetic to Muslim people because they've faced discrimination since 9/11. However, they have overcompensated. They seem to have forgotten that religious people, and that includes Muslims, are often socially conservative. So now they have to contend with the reality that this group that they were taught to bend the knee for hates this other group that they're supposed to protect and look out for and the left has no answer to that. They just kind of expect Muslims and LGBT people to just kind of get along out of nowhere which is obviously not going to fucking happen. Especially in areas where religious people get in power. The fact of the matter is, you can only have something resembling an equal society when you go full atheism. Any time you allow religion into the coalition you are automatically gimping that goal because religious people are incapable of keeping their religion to themselves. They will ALWAYS try to push their religion on others in EVERY circumstance. Everyone knows this is true but for some reason we have to pretend its not.

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