Who has it worse, UK or USA tranners?

blue states are easily better

If youre in a red state you can easily move>>40415825 (OP)

>>40415825 (OP)
UK seems like absolute backwards retardville. Its a community of cucks who literally think a Government is more important than their livelihood. British people are so fucking strange and flat out stupid. As turbulent as America is, I am far happier not feeling raped on the daily by an overbearing government of crooked-teeth nutsuckers.

>>40415922
yes it's hell on earth here, americans please stay away

UK by far it isn't even a question
at least i could go to Planned Parenthood and get a prescription in like an hour here

>>40415922
the uk is made of 50% retards try going there and walking in some suburbs you can tell whos sub 100 immediately

could anyone explain what makes it so bad to be trans in the UK? explain like i'm retarded

>>40415825 (OP)
the uk is the best argument against nationalized healthcare

>>40416197
there's really nothing bad about being a tranny in the UK, it's a safe and accepting country
all that's happened is some push back to the tranny agenda in our politics, so terminally online trannies think they're about to be put on trains and herded into camps

>>40416298
oh yeah, and to get any HRT n shiet on the NHS takes a long time, but so does everything that isnt essential, even a hip transplant

>>40416298
what about health care? applying for jobs? discrimination? i'm curious.

>>40416197
i'm a uk tranny and I really don't think it's that bad desu

I live in a nice area and the worst abuse I've received back when I didn't pass was some old guy staring at me with a hateful expression, and 2 people screaming "FAGGOT" as they drove by on separate instances. Although it probably would've been way worse in the area I grew up in. Now that I facepass but am a voicehon, I receive zero harrasment, even the local store clerk who regularly talks about voting reform is chatty and nice to me.

My mother was a TERF and my dad proudly boasted about beating up homosexuals to me before I came out. My mother being a TERF is definitely a consequence of living in the anglosphere, but my dad being a violent homophobe is something that could happen in any other 1st world country.

The NHS wait times for transgender care are absolutely absurd, 7+ years at the moment, and the services are dreadful and understaffed, but there is the option to go private which isn't particularly expensive and only takes a few months to get a diagnosis. You can ofcourse just DIY too.

I've had no trouble finding surgeons willing to operate on me, infact, my orchiectomy surgeon was sympathetic enough to ignore WPATH guidelines and provide a orchi prior to me receiving a diagnosis as I had already been DIYing for years. My BA doctor said he'd treat me like any other woman when I admitted to being trans.

The political sentiment is kind of bad, only a few years ago there were near-weekly reactionary articles bashing transgender care (for the wrong reasons) but that seems to have died down at the moment now that immigration is the new divisive social issue.

There are plenty of very leftwing people spread across the country who make every effort to accomodate transgender people. The conservatives are very 50/50 split between socially moderate fiscal conservatives and reactionaries, unlike America where most conservatives are extremely socially conservative. I do not fear a genocide.

>>40415825 (OP)
USA is the literal tranny mecca. free srs, ffs, bbl, ba, clavicle reduction etc etc etc. AMERICAN TRANNIES HAVE IT SO FUCKING GOOD YET THEY PRETEND LIKE THEY DONT. TOP OF THE TRANNY TOTEM POLE SITS THE AMERICAN

>>40415825 (OP)
both are shitty third world countries

>>40415825 (OP)

>>40416470
bc it depends on the state

>>40415825 (OP)
UK.
Mostly due to geographical limitations.
In the UK, you can't just "move state", you have to leave the country entirely (I think there are more than 10 STATES larger than the UK.

They can't even go and live somewhere rural and hide.
The US state of Oregon is roughly the same size as the United Kingdom (not just England).
The population of Oregon is around 5mil.
The population of the UK is around 70mil.
Being an ISLAND means that the UK can't just expand or anything.

>>40416799
damn, if only you knew an internationally spoken language and had a passport that could you grant you access almost anywhere.

Uk is a small island. There is no where to run. America big. Big is safe

>>40416763
just move retard ?

>>40415922
Listening to those teaniggers speak really makes you wonder how the fuck they ended up conquering the world

>>40417311
You can literally do anything in this world so long as you put the effort in. Most people didn't want to be a violent monstrosity on the world. The British were okay with this.

UK tranners have it worse without a doubt, US tranners can easily get on prescrips and stuff

>>40416312
waitlists for 'gender identity clinics' are upwards of 5 years and they never give hrt on the first appointment, so almost everyone on hrt is doing it diy
hospitals have gendered wards and trans people get excluded from both of them, which has lead to a few deaths in side rooms or of people who were never admitted inside when they should have been
trans women are counted as men by equality law, so although discrimination "based on gender reassignment" is banned that only really covers a few extreme situations and is hard to prove
most employers don't want to hire trans people according to surveys and the tax system will always out you to your boss unless you apply to get your records sealed which comes with some additional bureaucracy

England is

Very rude
Very expensive
Very dirty
Very depressing
Very grey
Very aggressive
Very malicious
Very spiteful
Very back stabbing
Very soul destroying
Very poor
Very destitute
Very decrepit
Very ignorant
Very stupid
Very violent
Very lonely
Very hostile

It is the most hopeless place ever. Name one good thing about England, you cant. England is what an Ai would create if it wanted to torture its citizens into a permanent state of insanity

>>40416197
We've been demonised beyond anything you can imagine.

Every single news outlet, every single day has these very seriois sounding "debates" around trans people. Should trans people be allowed to be paedophiles? Should trans people be allowed to rape? Should we be allowed to exist? And they all demand the government imprison us.

The public are quite literally uneducated backwards savages. Go to ang European city, walk around, in general people are pleasant, polite, with a few rude ones thrown in.

In England its the opposite, everyone is a rude, nasty piece of work and 1 in 400 will be decent. Cis people fucking hate it here, let alone being trans

>>40415825 (OP)
UK seem worse but I dunno

t. Canada tranny

>>40416470
>Free bbl and clavicle reduction
WHAT WHERE

i fucking hate this place dawg the uk is awful

>>40415825 (OP)
Brits don't get FFS. Gotta pay the full 40k USD or whatever if you want to be pretty, and in another country because no surgeons in the UK even do FFS. Wages in the UK are much lower too (roughly half what you make with similar living costs) so it's quite unattainable.

>>40415825 (OP)
People are such insane drama queens about the UK, it’s mostly fine fucking hell shut up and live in a real city, Glasgow Manchester Edinburgh London Newcastle are nice, not my fault if you live in some fucking hick town

>>40416978
Your passport only allows you access to places you are allowed to go.
You could be denied entry or returned.
Imagine selling all you have, travelling to Finland, laying down your new roots, and then getting deported.

>>40417890
Plsplspls i must know
Its california isnt it

>>40417926

>>40417990
Why I despise Feminism.
Imagine flipping the genders around and arguing for men only spaces.

>>40418019
We need to do that, and make it the workplace and public roads

ZING!

>>40417990
Mass Formation Psychosis

>>40418032
I'm not even joking, EVERYTHING a man creates specifically for himself and other men (no, I'm not arguing men built everything and own everything) INEVITABLY has women knocking on the door.
Can we come in?
Whybcan't we come in?
This is sexist.
We demand to come in.
We only want to see.

Even if what the men had was a detriment to women.
You could probably give men immunity to radiation and they would go play with a radioactive core and women would still insist that they need to be able to play with it too.

Depends, I'm british but spent some time in Chicago and thought it was way better than the UK 100%. The fact that I have to order my estrogen with bitcoin homemade by someone in her bathtub is annoying, and the fact that we don't have health insurance in this country combined with the fact that trans healthcare here is probably some of the worst in europe means i'll likely never get SRS or FFS or any surgery i need.

Culturally and geographically I also just prefer the US. I get made fun of by my british friends for this but I think Americans are actually much more pleasant to talk to on average compared to British people. Also I love how big the US is, how culturally diverse it is and how good the food is. I love that New Mexico and Oregon are in the same country.

Politically its probably worse in the US right now

>>40418095
Not true. When the "male exclusive spaces" include the seats of power then yes women want to participate, seems reasonable in a democracy since laws affect them as well. But there are still male-only spaces, it's just that 99% of men there do nothing but whine about the lack of female presence.

>>40418263
>Not true
https://youtu.be/pVx_SOxM78A?si=8rQcVTvjx2ikaX0C
https://youtu.be/T6rNRS7Iiq0?si=7Qzn-rrMAK-kTboJ

>>40418263
men are much more competitive than women so in any kind of meritocracy a man will be at the top most of the time
99.9999% of men will not be on the top and 100.000% of women will not be on the top so it makes zero difference to the fate of the average man or the average woman
women don't see this because the only man they're capable of noticing at all is chad

>>40418244
British people are horrible

>>40415825 (OP)
everyone in the UK

>>40416470
>>40417890
>>40417984
Youre really gonna say ts and not tell me where
This board fucking sucks now

>>40418487
Truly, British people are seemingly genetically designed to be annoying as fuck and miserable to be around

>>40418633
A good test is to tell a British person, that British people suck.

If they agree, they're a decent person worth knowing.

If they get offended, they're a piece of shit to be avoided

>>40416197
UK is a nanny state that likes regulating everything, and they have a overworked, underfunded NIH that goes by old conservative standards based around suicide prevention so it's difficult and illegal to just buy your way out of problems.

>>40415825 (OP)
UK for sure

>>40416197
No pathway to FFS unless you're born into the right caste
No trans youth healthcare nationally and they're working on making it illegal even for rich parents to go abroad to help their kids
British law compels service to be provided to transphobes, Lib Dem party got flooded with anti-trans entryists joining just to squeeze in anti-trans policies and when the party tried to kick them out the court said they're not allowed to, so any institution or business etc. can be taken over by anti-trans people freely and any pushback judged discrimination in law
NHS lowballs dosages and takes 5+ years to get, DIY works for most but there's such poverty some can't afford it
Live in one of the worst nanny states in the west and it's grey weather for like more than half of the year
British phenotypes often include a thick square head, some of the larger jaws and midfaces on the planet and deepset/close together eyes which are the very worst least fixable features for an mtf

Also I don't think Americans realise how much electricity costs here, we pay double what a lot of countries do

Sex work is legal in the UK, there's that.