>what is /voicegen/?
/voicegen/ is primarily a general made for trans people on /lgbt/ to share recordings of their voices so as to get feedback, advice, or opinions, to help achieve the voice they want. This does not mean that you must be trans to post! Remember that this is a community-led thread and not a source for professional advice; please be kind to one another!

>how do I post?
It's easy - just record yourself on vocaroo.com, rate others in the thread, and post! That last point is very important - to keep the thread alive and ensure engagement, it is strongly recommended to NOT respond to those who don't do their part, as it is very impolite and leads to threads dying. You need not be an expert; trying your best is all we ask! Even a simple rating can be helpful.

>how do I get started?
There are several ways! You're always welcome to ask for advice here, and there is a wealth of video and written resources available online. However, we tend to believe that there is no alternative to repeated practice and reflection, so exercises that advertise "get a passing voice quick" tend to be confirmation bias from people with a great natural ability to control their voice.
That said, some channels to watch are:
Zoey Alexandria (rip)
TransVoiceLessons

>what do I read?
What we would recommend is to vary what you read aloud - this might be divided into three broad categories:
- flat reading, as if you were reading to an audience, in a neutral, affectless way, usually to focus more on things like pitch or resonance, and less on things like cadence, diction, or intonation
- voice acting, as in you find some piece of media to act: do intonations, try different voices, have fun! Edge Studio is a known resource for texts such as these.
- talking, as in just talking as yourself: improvise, imagine a conversation!

>>40419121 (OP)
Hey new voicegen! But it's 2am I'll join y'all maybe tomorrow:)

>>40419137
https://voca.ro/1bt2o0dimmls
help pls what am i doing wrong

>>40419121 (OP)
https://voca.ro/1bt2o0dimmls
help pls what am i doing wrong

>>40419352
bunp

>>40419352
existing

https://voca.ro/1aNGZ5y92gLG

>>40419352
You sound like a reptilian

oh hi vtg :) i will bump with some more singing (the bridge and end of The Familiar by Eidola)
https://voca.ro/1i5skTZDFxLB
it's not great and it kind of sounds confusing without the instrumentation behind it lole

>>40419352
it sounds to me like your resonance is low. have you tried voice-training before? from where you are now, you will probably need to raise your larynx and relax your throat, and see where that gets you. if you don't know how to do that, the big dog, small dog exercise is recommended (and intuitive!) but i am partial to swallow-and-hold. both of these you can learn about from short videos on YouTube, but in short, the former has you pant as if you are a large tired dog, and then a small tired dog (the small dog is what you want), and the latter has you swallow and hold your larynx at the apex of its movement up your throat; from there you relax without lowering it.

i'm sorry if i'm overexplaining....i didn't want to wait for an answer to the question in case i fall asleep before you respond which could be any minute now. yawn
anyhow good luck <3

>>40420218
Wow poonerbro your voice passes really well

>>40420215
a little too breathy i think but everything else sounds okay to me :)
throat singing is cool!! maybe i will try some tomorrow i haven't done much of that
>>40420263
KEK

ERM it's /vtg/ not /voicegen/, but
https://voca.ro/1g99U6n2MPwJ
did i waste my money on VFS ;-;

>>40420218
you're a very good singer, i really hate pop screamo though

>>40420215
you've raised your pitch but not your larynx

>>40419352
le false folds have arrived

>>40420215
you sound androgynous. if you wanna deepen your voice iirc screaming can unironically help. i saw something about it on looksmax.org a couple of years ago
>You sound like a reptilian
lol why? what does that even mean

>>40420218
i have voice trained before, that’s what my resonance sounds like after i try lifting my larynx lol. i struggle to lift it further without feeling tense and strained. here’s what i sound like with it raised higher: https://vocaroo.com/1fo4MCzrxoDg. i can't really raise my resonance or pitch any more than that though
ur rly good at singing btw :)
>>40420642
you sound like a pre-T ftm. can't really say if VFS was a waste without knowing what you sounded like before
>le false folds have arrived
what can i do about it?

>>40420728
Yes Mongolian throat singing is screaming

Idk just reptilian
Not that it's a bad thing

>>40420642
https://voca.ro/1f4DHlvbWL3R

>>40420368
Yeah i as whispering idk why

Heloo
https://voca.ro/1jyknuOhovcR

>>40420728
You sound like you're using your nasal cavity to speak

>>40420802
You sound like you vote democrat and smoke weed and make gestures with your hand when you talk, and not the cool Italian ones

>>40419121 (OP)
I voicemog all of you.
https://vocaroo.com/12HQiIP3lVYI

>>40420816
Mamami…

>>40420836
Wow
It's so perfect what the fuck???

bupm

>>40419352
>40420728
don't even think it sounds bad, main issue is it's just really nasal. first few seconds were also really breathy sounding. might need some more resonance. second recording was better overall, but i get the feeling you cant sustain that and it's still really nasal

>>40420215
>40420798
sounds breathy and soft spoken. it's not bad, reads as fem, but i'd think it was a strange voice in most contexts. sounds much better in the second post

>>40420642
it kind of sounds like your voice is recovering, like you strained it from yelling too much. maybe thats just the VFS recovery still, idk what to do about that other than wait. also kind of sounds like a young boy/androgynous, are you putting any effort in or is that just how you sound after VFS?

>>40420802
it's kind of deep, but not too deep. i think it's pretty good, but also breathy and quiet


https://vocaroo.com/14sikXVLq6UD

https://voca.ro/13Nnl7qqsA8r
totally terrible but i will try again once i have the chance to really warm up and sing later :p

>>40420642
don't stress too much nona. to me, your voice sounds a little weak (possibly because you were drunk, although it sounded a little weak last thread as well) but it could not in any way be construed to sound like an adult male voice. like ever. that being said, you do sound frighteningly similar to one of the barely-pubescent boys i was teaching this past year.
>>40420728
the very beginning of your recording sounds amazing but then it gets a little crunchy and nasal. i think you just need to find a middle ground! if this makes sense, try speaking from a lower part of your throat, rather than like all the way up in the crook of your neck (unless you aren't; that's just what it sounds like to me)
>>40420802
i think the only thing keeping this from being perfect is that it is just a little nasal. if it isn't already, try to relax your throat just a tiny bit more
>>40422962
i also think that this is pretty good but just a bit nasal......is the back of your tongue close to your palate when you speak?

>>40420642
>>40420728
>good singing
is this real or a meme or are you guys trying to be nice......this is what it is supposed to sound like, for reference: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Lzrik6GKGMY&t=120s&pp=2AF4kAIBygUTdGhlIGZhbWlsaWFyIGVpZG9sYQ%3D%3D
i was just posting for fun mostly you guys don't think my voice sounds annoying?? to me it was way pitchy and grating

https://voca.ro/1eoc7dqmsPFr
Please help me, I am at the end of my wit with the voice training. I'll try to give you advice too!
(and yes I meant high-pass filter, not low-pass)

I am trying:
* larynx raising
* vocal fry
* pitch variation
* resonance modification
* speaking breathy
but it just sounds like dude still. did transvoicelessons lie to me :(

>>40423917
>is the back of your tongue close to your palate when you speak?
uhhh i don't think so, not particularly? should it be?

throat singing needs some work though for sure lol.
for the other singing clip, compared to the original, it is a bit pitchy at times. like, it's alright for just casual fun singing in the car or whatever. i cant sing at all though so i can't really give out any tips :c

>>40424440
It's kinda hard to rate this or give advice since you're jumping around all over the place doing different thing with your voice, can you record one where you're just trying to speak as best you can?

https://voca.ro/12kFqDvsfKnO
throat singing (real)

>>40424440
it sounds to me like you may be just raising your palate, rather than your larynx, but i could be wrong....that's just the sense i get when i attempt to recreate the sound of your voice. when you are raising your larynx, what does it feel like? is the tongue very involved? you should not have to move your tongue at all, ideally. maybe you aren't moving it and i am totally wrong. hopefully that is helpfu, though.....
>>40424697
>throat singing needs some work though for sure lol
yayaya......how about now? i'm pretty sure this is correct
and no your tongue should not have to move..my guess was just wrong. sorry nona :( i will have to keep thinking and see if i can determine what else it could be.

>>40424954
pls sing me to sleep mommy

>>40424697
Alright, I tried to stay consistent: https://voca.ro/1nT1ifPfHviK

>>40424954
oh. to be fair these things are hard to describe - it feel like flexing a muscle in my throat that makes my adam's apple go up...
i wasn't aware of this distinction - but i think the tongue may be a little involved...

>>40425017
https://voca.ro/18zJAyeUEzhl
>>40425116
when you say "trying again" you sound almost like a cis woman i know! also good that you understood what i was talking about even though i misspoke lol i meant to say tongue, not palate, the first time. anyhow it seems from this recording that the problem could just be that you have a lot of low vocal fry???? maybe? this is also just how it feels to me when i try to recreate your voice so i could be wrong..but thst might be something to play around with.

>>40425679
<3

>>40420642
I thought you were a pre-T poon before reading "VFS"

>>40420728
It's still pretty nasal. You need less resonance.

>>40420642
I thought you were a pre-T poon before reading "VFS"

>>40420728
It's still pretty nasal. You need less resonance.

>>40425116
so i think it tends to be nasal and perhaps a bit heavy on the vocal weight. did you feel tense during that recording? funnily enough i think you sounded better at the end when you said that was the best you could do.

>>40424954
hehe, yeah that sounds more like it.
hrmm, guess i'll just have to keep messing with it

time for sleep
https://voca.ro/15m5vWQXxHgd

>>40420642 wow you sound great! i'd say unclockable now, even if you could boost your resonance a little.

>>40424440 imo you need weight and a bit of pitch help. i toggle that stuff by doing glottal stops and slowly moving the sound up my throat until it's at my palate.

>>40426261 you sound great your pitch could be higher but it just sounds low for a woman, not clocky.


https://voca.ro/1jBCgUcKWSy6 im from the south sorry abt my accent

>>40426869
so shaky, like a chihuahua

>>40426261
maybe you could try toning down the breathiness next time? that's what i think when i listen to this one but my word is not gospel for sure.....we need some more anons in here
>>40426869
you sound so sweet nona :) i think you're mostly there; it's just that your voice is a little nasal, or at least i believe so....https://voca.ro/1b5P3Dut6HC9 maybe this will be helpful maybe it will not be...i hope it is

https://voca.ro/1nNmzc4QfoGU
doing a bit HMMMMS to make pitch higher because I stay at an EXTREMELY LOW 200HZ LIKE AN ASSHOLE while speaking
>>40424440
just train more and get resonance higher by getting larynx higher it's really the main thing rn

>>40424954
youre so autistic book anon ily I never managed to throat sing either lmao
>>40425116
not that bad!
>>40426869
having an accent is a reason of PRIDE listen to me you are NOTHING compared to me
but yeah resonance is androgynous try vocal size practice keep your lips super tight on the sides and your cheeks too and see wassup

If I forgot something yall want me to rate hmu

>>40429864
it is always nice to hear your voice :) you sound lovely
>youre so autistic book anon
sometimes i wonder if i do too much for these threads is this how i find out........

also uhhh BUMP

whump

>>40419121 (OP)
https://voca.ro/177TSeFIBgWD
>>40426869
faggy but passes to me. probably just the southern accent.
>>40426261
Whispery which makes it hard to judge

>>40431152
Thanks <3
And I love whatever you do in recordings every thread! Always surprising lol, I've been a bit lazy (/anxious) lately and feeling less like voice training it's cool to have this thread to get me into it a bit more.

Also bump

>>40433538
https://voca.ro/12XagCQRuAu2

>>40433538
like maybe four years ago we had a youngshit come in here to troll (or it was a cis woman idk it doesn't matter (literally))
that's what you sound like lol
>>40433990
>(/anxious)
about your voice? or just in general? laziness i can understand but i don't think there's anything to BE anxious about when it comes to your voice.........but of course anxiety does her thing, anyways. i'm glad the gen is motivating you :)

when /bmg/ was its own thread sometimes i would put the music i was currently listening to there at the bottom of my posts bc i love it so much and i want to share and if this is goin to be my home general now maybe i will start doing that again
here's The Way Home! by Devin Townsend Project
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eIMjJw_U9E&pp=ygUkdGhlIHdheSBob21lISBkZXZpbiB0b3duc2VuZCBwcm9qZWN0
one of my favorite metal albums evrrrrrrrr.....

>>40434490
>about your voice? or just in general? laziness i can understand but i don't think there's anything to BE anxious about when it comes to your voice.........but of course anxiety does her thing, anyways. i'm glad the gen is motivating you :)
Oh no in general! Traumatic shit happened recently that I'm still processing amongst plenty of other traumatic shit and whatever yknow but that makes life harder lol + I'm aging fast and ughhh

Is that metal? Seems a bit more like hard rock to my ears but I'm no expert and it doesn't matter anyway lol. I'm not that into metal mostly into old school/indie rap and indie instrumental rock/post-rock.
Most metal I listen to is dungeon synth which is definitely its own thing
https://youtu.be/Wp9pzKbENQk?si=p6AA4ZX9xmBc91vd
I own a record of this one it's amazing.

>>40434647
mm i see :( i am sorry to hear that
i suppose there's not much you can do about age but i hope you'll catch a break soon regarding the other things you have going on....i hope you don't feel obligated to come here and practice we all need a break sometimes!!
>Is that metal?
maybe not! i guess i consider it a metal album as a whole but that song is more akin to hard rock, yea..this is the title track, though; maybe my calling it metal makes more sense in the context of this lol: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-opuATyCZgw
i also love old-school Hip-Hop and post-rock!! if you have not heard the new We Lost the Sea album you should totally listen to it.........it is so good
i never got much into dungeon synth but my husband totally loves it. i will have to show him this album...i know Old Sorcery is in some of the playlists he's got saved but i'm not sure they're one of the bands he listens to on their own. ty for sharin :) i'll be listening to this today, too

>>40435338
dw it'll get better with time, I'm just nerding out rn to keep myself busy
I still try and do voice practice every day but lately been feeling a bit tired of it but it's gonna be okay! this thread is more a motivation than anything

hope your husband likes that album lol he probably already knows it!
I think I already tried to listen to We Lost The Sea but didn't enjoy it that much I think? I'd have to listen to them again lol might be confusing them with someone else, rn I'm listening to Boris which is fire

>>40435599
he did not know it! i enjoyed it myself but he will probably hear it sometime later; he's put it in one of his own playlists now.
also what Boris album!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i love Boris i was just listening to Flood the other day....my favorite of their albums is vein (specifically the new mix from 2020 or whenever it was) and my husband's is Akuma no Uta :)

i thought some more anons might post what with all this bumping but i think we may have reached the end of the thread again....it has been nice to just talk anyways ;p i never get to do that much here anymore

>>40436299
Hope he enjoys it! The first track is the best dungeon synth ever imho
Oh well I'm literally just starting to listen to them! So idk at all lmao I literally just discovered them ahah.

Yeaaaah maybe it doesn't work as a general staying up every day idk. But I like to talk yeah! I think those threads are the kind that are perfect to avoid trolls so they tend to have a better ambience

>>40437125
oooooooowwhhhhhhhh i hope you love them.........their discography is so varied and i don't love or even like absolutely everything they've made but they are a fantastic band. if you are not so into metal then something like Rainbow or 1985 might be good to try!! those are both more on the rock end of the spectrum. ALSO their cover of Asobi Seksu's New Years (titled Neu Years) is one of my favorite covers of all time. like ever. hopefully that gives you a but to explore :)

>>40429864
Sounds great, cute accent
>>40433538
Also sounds great, go train!

I feel like I just need practice a ton but i'm still happy to take advice

https://voca.ro/11W8VYelkZTm

>>40437340
I am more into instrumental (black) metal which technically dungeon synth is a part of I think, screamo is definitely not my thing lol although I've enjoyed it when it's used as an instrument in the background instead of at the forefront. Sorrowcrown is a black metal album from Old Sorcery I enjoyed a lot!
I'll give everything a listen while I play RimWorld! Thanks for the recs :)
>>40437393
Thanks! Regarding your voice I think it's a bit nasal but it reads fem maybe on the androgynous side but still fem? But it's good!

>>40437393

I think You sound Good, Maybe a Slight bit Heavier then A CisF Voice But hopefully Should Improve With Practice

https://voca.ro/1nhnGtkB6uel

FTM, 1.5 Yrs T & 2.5 VoiceMasc. These threads Are always Mostly Trans Women So not Sure if Anyone has Any Advice. But i Really dislike Being so High Pitched, & I feel Like my Voice sounds Overly Slimey. Though my Accent Doesnt help.

Guess I will also contribute to the ftm representation here
https://voca.ro/120GD0ozaGqz
>>40439914
You sound like a YouTuber in a good way lol. Do you know how to raise your soft palate? I think if you did that more for more resonance it would benefit you greatly because right now it sounds just a bit too forced.

>>40419121 (OP)
https://voca.ro/1cvMRluomxQa
sorry it's super rambly, i wanted to capture what my voice sounded like naturally and naturally i ramble ToT

>>40441268
i know part of the reason my voice is so annoying is because of how heavy my vocal folds are? but i really struggle with that cause idk for some reason my default way of expressing excitement is to lay it on as heavy as i possibly can :( maybe i need to just really practise not doing that idk

>>40441268

Im Not an Expert in Voicefem By any means, But in Terms of Critique.

You dont Pronounce Your "R"s Properly & Have them More like Ws, Witch Makes you Sound like Youre Using UWUSpeak Sometimes ( EG : "Exwasizes" Instead of "Exorsizes")

& You Tend to Go a little Higher Pitched Then youre Comfortable at Times & End up Cracking your Voice, Go slightly Lower so You dont have As Much Cracking, & Your voice Can be a Little Tight & Strained at Times, you Dont Sound Breathy to Me & could Stand to Chill out Slightly & be More Breathy sometimes.

>>40441632
i never noticed i pronounce my Rs like that but you're right ToT i'm not doing that intentionally at all i think that's just how i talk, i should probably pay more attention to that though so i don't sound wetawded
and i definitely should chill out, i think that'll be hard for me though because i tend to get excited easily :(
i'll probably try to focus on having a less strained voice rather than lowering it though that is good advice, i think i kinda just hope if i keep talking high all the time then eventually i just won't crack but maybe that's not how it works, i just like having a high voice :(
thank you for the advice though, i'll work on it!

>>40441713
>i think i kinda just hope if i keep talking high all the time then eventually i just won't crack but maybe that's not how it works
you may just have to work your way up to going higher little by little instead of trying to go up as high as you can and staying there, pushing yourself for too hard too long can cause you to hurt your voice. Going up just a little from your natural range and practicing that until it’s very easy for you and then going a little higher each time until you can do the higher voice consistently. I know how it feels to want to stay in the range that’ll give you the least dysphoria though.

>>40440815

2 Recordings For Response

https://voca.ro/1olI9jZloFyc

https://voca.ro/1o1jQh9xCFNj

>>40442142
Thanks for the input! I don’t mind sounding faggy as long as it’s not extreme. And the AI generated comment made me laugh lmao, didn’t realize I was that autistic
As for the “forced” thing, I may have been tripping balls because you sound a lot better in these recordings, maybe it’s because you’re just speaking normally here and not reading from a script. You have a very rich sound and your pitch is good too. As for the soft palate thing I am now no longer sure how much you actually need it, but I’ll share a vid with you anyway if you or anyone else might be interested: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=phuaeXjWpSQ

how do u guys get started? i just want to be able to make friends.. :(

>>40443723
Get started voice training? Either watch transvoicelessons on yt or any "girl voice" tutorial. Learn to raise larynx. Find a voice you like. Trial and error till you get better.

Get started making friends? No clue

>>40437393
idk, kind of sounds like gay guy/androgynous. it has a bass to it that i don't generally hear in female voices

>>40439914
>>40442142
sounds like you're doing a voice, like a cartoon giant or something. perpetual yawning. but i guess still sounds like a guy so that's something

>>40440815
sounds like a guy to me, would never question this. nice voice.

>>40441268
baseline generally sounds good to me. sometimes it does sound like you're getting strained and voice cracks. there is just something about it, i'm not sure what. maybe you're just a little too high pitched to be comfortable?

response in voice form: https://voca.ro/1odIiz46itFP

>>40443723
hard to make friends without being able to talk, right? play some online vidya and just pretend you don't have a microphone or something and get real good at typing lol. co-op/mmo games are best for this. maybe not the most optimal way to make friends but it's something.

>>40419121 (OP)

Karaoke bc bored
https://voca.ro/1hvcIkFrZ4ZE

Take my advice with a gram of salt I'm retarded
>>40441268
Resonance isn't all there but sounds good, and when you were reading at the end it was a bit whispery which is probably just theatrics so not necessarily an issue. Would probably clock but it's not screaming male or anything

Same as the one before, whispery but probs theatrics. Sounds more integral though so that might be an actual issue for you. Pitch is good. Weight is a bit heavy, try weight exercise in particular.

>>40444049
oops "same as before..." is for >>40437393

it was so exciting to see this thread active when i got home yesterday!! and even more exciting to see it still active when i woke up!!!!!!!! go voicegenners :)

>>40437393
your voice doesn't sound particularly nasal to me, but in trying to recreate the sound of it with my own, i can only really do it by speaking constricting my throat and speaking nasally (this may mean nothing since everyone has a different vocal tract, but i am trying.....). if it doesn't already, your throat should feel relaxed.
>>40437989
mmmmmm....i'm not sure i have any instrumental black metal to offer off the top of my head (although i'm certain i've got some), so i'll let you be the expert on that for yourself ;pp maybe i'll think of something, though, not that you asked! lole
i will have to check out that Old Sorcery album, too. i hope you enjoyed the Boris in the meantime :)
>>40439914
>>40442142
definitely a male voice; just sounds a bit yawny. if you don't mind that, it's perfect! you mentioned wanting to not sound as though you are forcing it; are you forcing your voice? what would it sound like if you spoke naturally (if, indeed, you are forcing it)?
>>40440815
you are always welcome to post here but you absolutely do not need us lol. perfect voice. please stop worrying <3
>>40441268
you sound a bit singsongy, but not like a man at all. i think you could do with taking a bit of the breath out of your voice (which you know so maybe i do not have to tell you!) but it's really pretty good! just sounds like you're constantly talking with a falsetto mix.
>>40443723
here's a post i made earlier, since it might actually be useful to somebody now! >>40420218
i also believe that the easiest way to learn how to manipulate your voice is just by playing around. literally just make noises and see what comes out and how. singing helps a lot, too! that's how i learned.

darn no more characters and i almost made it too

>>40444049
is your voice naturally high? you were talking about voice-training but it sounds like you are mostly just sitting up there already. very good if this is not natural to you :)

>>40444821
>here's a post i made earlier
thanks! i was looking through youtube too. i kinda have trouble talking loud when i do that. i notice. also was wondering how people handle laughing and such when training their voice.

>>40445761
>trouble speaking loudly
would you be comfortable posting a recording? it could be any number of things forcing your voice quiet but my best guess without any sound to go by is that your throat is just too constricted and you need to relax a bit more. but i do not know!
>laughter
that is tough..i don't think i have any advice for that :( i'm pretty sure my laugh actually doesn't pass and i only get away with it because my speaking voice is already low and people just write it off lol. maybe some other anons will have advice about that :( sorry nona.

>>40444828
Not really, it's soft ig but not particularly high pitched.

BUUUUUUUUUUUUUMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>40444821
nasal anon here thanks for the advice I think I was doing that a decent amount

bump

>>40449252
it is easy to do! especially if you are still mostly new to the whole thing. i am glad to have been helpful :)

also UP from page nine come back vtg

>>40437393
happier with this even though it's lower I hate the forced sound
https://voca.ro/15kM7y9o1viz

good night anons sleep tight

>>40419121 (OP)
Karaoke pt 2 (TV size)
https://voca.ro/1ng622IZ3Qtv

>>40453641
think I've given you advice before. Maybe next you could do like a stream of consciousness type beat instead of reading since it seems you are putting some theatrics in your voice

https://vocaroo.com/1df4fhuB9AIW

:(

>>40453751
:/ have you practiced lots? the pitch sounds a bit low I think that's the main thing

>>40453767
I don't have the words to describe it but I can mimic it. Ur doing like a moist critical/ftm/butch lesbian type beat with your voice. Try using your head voice, raising the larynx, and maybe up the pitch a lil.

>>40453776
meant for
>>40453751

https://voca.ro/15b2EgMbnFZp

>>40453641
i don't think this sounds forced at all, but it does sound like the same pitch as before, just slightly less breathy. what feels forced about it?
also, it is good to not fear a lower pitch!! resonance is most of what's important. relatedly, i may have been off-base, before. have you tried playing with resonance at all? that may help a bit.
>>40453751
what is "not passing"? no, vfs is not a miracle, but that's not to say you're all done and it's over and there's nothing left you can do. it does sound like you're speaking with a very deep and open throat, despite your great resonance. it may help to look there. if the sound of your voice were just a little brighter, i imagine you might feel better about it.
anyways, though, i don't think you sound like a man, so it would be helpful to know what you mean when you say you were not passing. your voice is a bit unusually dark, but it's certainly not the first voice like that i have ever heard.
>>40453871
put that thing away
are you mtf or ftm bc i cannot imagine why you would post this image if mtf

>>40453948
Skipped me its so over

>>40453948
posted cause ropefuel

heres less forced
https://voca.ro/14ffqOjDGO6m

>>40453948
Sorry i phrased it backwards, to me the new recording sounds less forced than the last one, which I didn't like as much. I'll definetly need to increase the resonance thanks for the advice!
>>40453972
Which anon are you?

>>40454021
>>40453715
Singing fag

>>40454033
cute, musical, japanese, 10/10 would set as ringtone

>>40454056
Waow

>>40453972
silly i already told you what i thought
i did listen to it and you sound the same to me (unless maybe you were trying something different and looking for feedback on that and i missed it........but you sound good regardless ;p)
>>40453975
https://voca.ro/174a3PKIYQaa
i'm sorry for the buzzing i kept getting notifications
>>40454021
oh i understand! you weren't backwards i just didn't parse correctly what the end of your sentence was referencing :)

>>40444821
I did enjoy Boris a ton! But at the end of the album I listened it was a bit heavy and long on the drones and it started being overwhelming like I wanted it to end lol
Had a BBQ yesterday (I'm a boomer) so haven't had time to listen to anything but I'm glad it's still up!!

>>40454714
>boomer
i feel like this is the second time you've mentioned this are you for-really a boomer ?? i would never have known from either voice or diction lol
i'm glad you (mostly) liked Boris! they have a few albums that i just canNOT do, for that reason, including their debut (Absolutego). they really love drone and noise which i can appreciate in moderation or when punctuated by rhyrhm or some kind of melody but when it is literally just an aberrant wall of sound i'm like oooookay guys............
i hope your bbq was fun anyhow!! i can appreciate a good bbq as someone aging into adulthood myself ;ppp

>>40454739
Naaah not really a boomer but I'm turning 30 so it fucking feels like it + BBQs are just deeply boomer shit lmao
Yeah the one I listened to (Gensho) was just so fkn heavy on the drones at the end I couldn't handle it. It's the oldest on YouTube music lol
Fun vegan bbq! Had hot dogs tomatoes and shit, a few drinks, tight summer stuff.

https://voca.ro/1o2QO1OWjuAQ
trying something new (old)
you can skip to like 0:43ish for the actual thing i want feedback on

>>40455045
>Gensho
HA
that's because you were not listening to Boris, by the end of the album; you were listening to Merzbow, whom i deeply respect as an artist but absolutely cannot stand on the level of personal enjoyment, as he is strictly, as far as i have ever known, a noise artist.
to be honest with you, i've never actually listened to Gensho (specifically because Merzbow is on it)........so i will be doing that today! thanks for piquing my interest :) i didn't know that he only contributed half of the album until now and assumed that the whole thing was just noise. silly.
it is good to hear that the bbq was fun!!!!! i've never been to a vegan bbq but i do love vegan food so i'm sure it was yummy :)

>>40453641
Kinda androgynous, it's very difficult for me to place one way or another.

>>40453715
perhaps not the best singer, but you do sound like a girl though.

>>40453751
Yeah, VFS not magic in most cases. Sounds like a pubescent boy to me. That said, it could probably pass with just a little bit of work. Not sure if this is your new baseline voice or if you're using any voice training techniques here, but if this is how you sound with zero or little effort I think you can make it.

>>40453871
>40453975
very short and recording quality not so good. sounds fem but like, hard to say for sure.

>>40455441
GIWTWM...
they're both so good, i have no other feedback other than i guess you sound younger with the higher pitch.

trying to reduce that nasal quality but i don't think it's working very well...
https://voca.ro/1fqWaDCiuER5

it is still a bit nasal, yes..part of me wonders if you really do sound "guyish" without the nasality or if that is maybe a case of brainworms. if you feel comfortable, i think it might be helpful to hear what you sound like when you are trying to completely remove it
really though, that's the only critique i could have :) you don't sound like a man at all. just like you've got a bit of a cold, or something.

and ty for the feedback! if all it does is make me sound younger i think i'll stick to my normal voice lol. i'm getting too old to sound like a teenager at this point.

>>40455507
above is meant for you omg oops

>>40455441
>that's because you were not listening to Boris
Oh on that makes a LOT of sense cuz yeah the beginning was fire and yeah I'm okay with a little drone action but that was just too much like it's cool just overwhelming lol

I'm vegan myself so any BBQ is vegan lol but yeah it's good shit. It's the only time I eat fake meat stuff otherwise I never consume any of that stuff and am way more into tofu and shit buuuuut BBQs are made for hot dogs

im new to voice training and I have some questions, coming from a ftm.

After a while, does it just become Natural or will I still have to force my voice? Do you guys recommend any specific tutorials?

>>40456698
If youre on T just give it a few months and speak more monotone. Thats all i got

>>40456116
Recording on the phone for this one, hopefully its not too terrible...
https://voca.ro/1oxFmiXDwxvY

https://voca.ro/18Rm0nQlU1yh
ftm 2 years 3 months (16 to 18) on T no voice training
should i voice train? people (on and off this board, trans and cis) tell me my voice passes and cis people never assume i'm trans after they hear my voice but brainworms tell me i have horrible gigapoon frogvoice and im ngmi
(picrel is acousticgender.space results)

>>40455507
>>40456982
definitely a little nasally and androgynous although definitely feminine leaning, you have the speech patterns down though IMO. second try sounds a lot better
>>40455441
honestly the best mtf voice i've heard here. the voice you do at ~0:45 doesn't sound bad or wrong or anything, but the difference i don't think is significant enough for you to keep forcing it if it feels unnatural and weird. it does sound a little strained at points but if you did decide to commit to using it i'm sure you would get used to it and that would fade with time.

>>40456698
yea as far as i am aware it sort of just happens
>>40456982
i like this more, believe it or not :) the change is subtle but it sounds much more natural. i think that you should use this as a baseline and see if you can play around with it to find something you do like more. at this point it sounds like you've just got to figure out how to get your resonance a teeny-tiny bit higher without reintroducing the nasality
>>40457426
you do not need to voice-train lol you're fine anon. there is absolutely no world in which i would ever clock this :) you do have brainworms pull them out

so to preface, im still kind of new to giving feedback

>>40456982
im assuming youre mtf, sorry if im wrong, but imo the main issue is that it has too much weight, and is very breathy. at the pitch youre using, its hard to get a fem passing voice as well. its also very monotone compared to most cis womens voices. just keep trying, voice work takes a lot of time and effort
>>40455507
i think youre using nasality/quietness to mask other qualities, which are still there, just obscured. i would work on your resonance/size
>>40455441
i think your voice mostly sounds good! but you have a lot of vocal fry, which makes it sound weaker as if youre sick, when you raise your pitch it makes it sound a lot weaker. i think you need to work on strengthening your voice and expanding your range

>>40459039
continuation, sorry. the spam filter is really mad at me :c

>>40453871
its hard to judge this one because its so quiet and whispery. i think anyone can get a good passing voice btw :) it just takes a lot of effort, voice is one of the few traits we have that we have so so so much control over! as long as you keep practicing you'll get to a place you feel comfy at <3
>>40437393
keep practicing !!! you got this :)
>>40433538
it sounds very very quiet, and like it might lack some strength behind it. its more stylistic, but often womens voices tend to be bouncier as well, which could help
>>40426869
your voice sounds pretty decent to me ^-^ but again, like you said the bounciness, but also you have a lot of rasp in your voice, which makes you sound a little like youre sick, or just speaking close to the bottom of your comfortable range, but playing around more with range could help fix that :)

>>40459057
another continuation ;-; the spam filter rlly doesnt like me
>>40426261
it sounds like youre using breathiness to mask vocal weight
>>40424440
i think just keep practicing! voice work is really hard and it takes time to build up the coordination, but if you keep working you'll get there <3 if youre struggling with this method, you could try doing mimicry
>>40422962
this one im pretty uncertain about, but it sounds off to me, i think due to slightly too much weight, and too low resonance, it could also stand to be a little less breathy imo. but good work <3
>>40420798
it sounds pretty good for no voice training! i think your voice lacks some fullness though, i think a brighter resonance would help a lot, although im sorry idk how to describe what that means over text ;-;

>>40419121 (OP)
This is fucking insane. Just talk with your voice, WTF who is teaching gay men they should imitate a woman caricature? I thought it was about 'being yourself'

proud of u all !! i think voice training is super hard, but its amazing what people can do with their voices
>>40459149

>>40420642
vfs doesnt magically give you a passing voice, you still need to voice train, im not sure what type of vfs you got, but it only affects part of what makes for a fem voice. a lot of voice training is based in the mouth, how you say words, where you project from, etc. i cant accurately give you feedback since its only been 3 weeks, it sounds like youre still recovering. whether or not its a waste of money is for you to decide, not anyone else <3
>>40419352
voice training is really complicated and there are tons of aspects that encompass it, id encourage you to keep playing around with it or maybe try mimicking voices you like :) you'll get there, just be patient

>>40459157
not everyone feels like their voice reflects themselves, you can change how your voice most naturally sounds. why shouldnt people shift their voices to something they like more or are more comfortable with? its not harmful

>>40459186
If you were the gender you think you are you wouldn't have to change anything

>>40459195
you dont *have* to do anything, not every cis person is comfortable with their voice either, sometimes cis people have unusual voices for their gender as well, and if it makes them uncomfortable, i would encourage them to explore voice training as well. ive also met cis people who have voice trained because they didnt like their voice

>>40459195
>you have gender dysphoria?? this totally contradicts everything tranners have previously stated!!!!

>>40457426
definitely nothing to worry about for you. heard guys that sounded like this in high school/early college
>you have the speech patterns down though IMO. second try sounds a lot better
>>40458563
>i like this more, believe it or not
i honestly can't believe it >~< guess i can't really trust my own ears even on playback

>>40459039
>strengthening your voice and expanding your range
what do you mean by this?
i do know that i sound like bubble wrap personified, but it isn't (or at least does not seem to me to be) because of a particular way that i'm speaking, e.g. restricting my range for the purpose of affecting a certain voice...i have sort of always sounded like that pretty much no matter what lol. is there a way to remove that from my voice without introducing an unnatural amount of breath (or force)? that is the only way i have been able to do so and i have sort of just accepted that the fry is a part of how i sound.
i don't think i mind it, but i am also not sure i know how i would sound without it, and i am curious.

>>40459186
>>40459265
>>40459845
don't engage with bait sillies
although it's keeping the thread bumped lol
so wild to have broken 100!! idk if i have ever seen that in one of these threads

.bmp

>>40453975
update i went on an omegle clone and no one clocked me mostly so yay but i still am a voicehon desu

https://voca.ro/13Bl8E023DnZ

>>40454693
passoid voice very awesome

>>40463005
Passes to me

>>40463018
says u u have such a cute voice

>>40463060
Kappuccino but thanks

>>40463081
not true very cute i wish i sounded like u :3

how long have u been voice training ?

>>40463254
On and off for a few years never consistent though I'm lazy

bump

here's me again! hopefully 4chan doesn't think all my links are spam

https://voca.ro/14fBpyFm6Csa

>>40419352
https://voca.ro/1dIzHnG2wLMc

>>40420215
https://voca.ro/1auQiS4FRbxO

>>40420218
https://voca.ro/1i2OViHAishL

>>40420642
https://voca.ro/1bdCGgwEysLK

>>40420802
rate others pleaseeee :)
https://voca.ro/1aZcEMHrcapj

>>40422962
https://voca.ro/15t6J9wmgnH1

>>40423917
https://voca.ro/13qgLRy63To4

2/2 because 4chan thinks I'm spammy lol
me if you want to rate
https://voca.ro/14fBpyFm6Csa

>>40424440
https://voca.ro/1bNfskKLS7Cb

>>40425116
https://voca.ro/12CJNWp8WpB0

>>40426869
https://voca.ro/1ekH3VPfe3UB

>>40429864
https://voca.ro/1lNI5EDw2fwl

>>40433538
https://voca.ro/13qgLRy63To4

>>40437393
https://voca.ro/1hImjDyxkMhK

>>40439914
https://voca.ro/15tAkqnoqJWm

>>40440815
https://voca.ro/1aiiRzp4F0so

>>40441268
https://voca.ro/1fcAQ8NbMJRD

https://voca.ro/1eYGwc2ZxCKa
Just sending this quickly I'll rate too

>>40466276
Thanks for the feedback anon! As for your voice I think it's good but maybe it has a slightly low resonance? Still fine but might be something to work on vocal size
Also I'm sorry you had to deal with life shit. Hope you're doing good now with your partner!
>>40463005
Sounds like you pass (through a tunnel lmao)
>>40457426
Sounds like a young dude, but you're young so seems perfect.
>>40455507
Still a bit nasal with a trans quality I think but it's better I think? It just takes practice. Try to breathe more and do some exercises regarding air I'd say, I'm not good at teaching those and I forgot them but that's what my voice therapist told me back when I went there (only thing we practiced lol)

Hope I didn't forget anyone I haven't already given feedback! I'm going back into my coma listening to maidcore half depressed

>>40466261
oh nona i'm sorry :( i'm glad you still had a good weekend though and i hope things only get easier from here. you sound great this time, too! i compared the recording you made for me to the one you made for the thread in general and they don't sound any different to me. my first thought, though, which i didn't have last time, is that your voice is just, like, the slightest bit breathy, but i could just be crazy. not unheard-of
i'd really love for my singing to sound female or at the very least androgynous but i'm pretty content at this point with the idea that it just isn't going to be that perfect lol. i am mostly concerned with the technique ;p thank you for the feedback !
>>40466325
i hope things will get easier for you, too......passive practice is good and i don't think you always have to get direct feedback to improve :) working at it on your own time will help you, too. i had the same gut thought about your voice, this time (that it is a little breathy), which i hadn't really ever thought before, so it really could just be that i am hearing things. but that is all i've really got, besides that i think it sounds as good as usual!

>>40467474
But breathy is sexier right?!
But thanks, yeah I'm just... not there mentally lately. I have a surgery coming up too (nothing major lol cosmetic) which makes me anxious and I just wanna get it over with it's in a bit more than a week... and lately I am so not confident in my passing and looks esp. since my hair is at the worst length ever - I had my hair super short before which fit me well but now I want to grow it back out to long but until then like it's at awkward lengths that make me feel manly af but it's also possibly cuz it's the kind of length I had pre transition idk whatever I'm just ranting lol
I wanna be able to sing too one day I should practice that once I'm feeling better!

>>40463005
its over
https://vocaroo.com/1ahv0GDaE8xR

i used to get 70% idk what happened