cis men are fucking ridiculous i just typed <:( in league chat and my teammate told me to man up because it's a "girly emoji". it's fucking pixels on a screen how insecure do you have to be.
>t.ftm

>>40450846 (OP)
i look like that but im a boy/tranny
same hair though.
but my body does slap hard

>>40450846 (OP)
what is <:( supposed to be is it frowny face with a hat or evil smile with horns

>>40450846 (OP)
okay now imagine every male relative telling you stuff like this and making fun of you for being remotely vulnerable and being forced to do hard physical labor like log-cutting.

you don't want to be a man, you want to be an effete sissy.

>>40450846 (OP)
>unnecessary pearl clutching
>feminine image attached
>complaining about the behavior of men
>lowercase I
>actually using the word insecure
You post like a woman even now, that's what is ridiculous.

>>40450846 (OP)
wtf is even that? kkk grandwizard? Dunce?

>>40450860
it's a frowny/worried face.
>>40450876
it's an emoji please uncondition yourself. i promise you'll be happier.

>>40450890
you really do just behave like a woman

>>40450903
>didn't live up to esteemed 4chan tripfag's standards
it's so fucking over how am i meant to go on

>>40450909
god females are insufferable

>>40450884
>man is when uppercase letters
If this is ragebait its 10/10 desu

>>40450890
you want to be a man?
so man up, sissy.

>>40450930
call me fembrained but i do pity men who are so stunted emotionally that they can't be normal. it's like watching someone voluntarily drink poison and then get angry when you try to stop them.
>oh i can't stop it blah blah
you can, i know plenty of emotionally healthy happy men.

>>40450961
god stfu please stop larping and detrans you are terminally femalebrained

>>40450961
and why do you think they became that way?
is it perhaps because they've been conditioned to be *gasp* men?? to be masculine and not effete? to the point it's beaten into them?

>>40450846 (OP)
male socialization

>>40450985
knowing i'm giving you secondhand embarrassment is gonna make me continue, you're digging a deeper hole here

>>40450961
Your posts are so womanly even my chaser ass is getting a boner. Either stop taking T or shut up because this is confusing

>>40450846 (OP)
man up

>>40450998
NTA but are you saying that any man who is happy has been conditioned to be feminine lmfao

Welcome aboard, you have two options. Ignore everything cis men say (based) or complain about cis men being cis men (cringe).

>>40450884
>>40450903
>>40450920
>>40450985
>>40450998
>>40451010
it's like watching someone lose to a dog at chess

>>40450961
your perspective is objectively healthier but extremely fembrained nonetheless. yeah its dumb to conform to these toxic ideals of masculinity but that doesn’t change that they’re the status quo ideals

>>40451027
>le hecking strong independent feminist that break gender norms
vs
>average catty female who always has something to complain about males
I don't know which one is worse

>>40451046
its not healthier OP is a trans person as are most females. They can't shake their toxic social conditioning to be bitchy

>>40451060
>mtf angry that a ftm is more fembrained
Must be a day ending in Y

>>40450961
everyone is being mean but you are right
wack-ass thread

I am a giga-progressive guy but I'm sorry but that's absolutely a girly emote. Basically all emotes are. If you aren't a girl or a feminine gay guy then you're going to come across as one. If you wish to be perceived as an ordinary guy then you shouldn't use things like that. No exclamation points either.

And I hate to say this but the rest of your post is also written in a feminine way. Most people would read it as a woman writing it. Not saying this in a judgmental or prescriptive way whatsoever. Purely descriptive.

See how I write? Even though I'm a soi liberal I still read as a man.

>>40451074
I'm angry that they are more fembrained bc the way they are fembrained is all the parts about it that are bad. Like how I'm angry that people are more of a nazi than me. It's alse the fact they are fake trans and appropriating it. so doubly annoying. And also it's just annoying. As per female standard

>>40451098
Your writing just comes across as passionless. Exclamation points and other emotional punctuation is important, there's a reason every great Victorian male author used them.

>>40451090
she's not. There's a reason no man thinks like this.

>>40451114
exclamation points are cringe. You are not an author you are typing in chat

>>40451106
>more of a nazi than me
BWOOP BWOOP TERMINAL MALEBRAINED GIGAHON DETECTED. LOCK THE DOORS. RELEASE THE GAS.

>>40450961
what bothers me is you have no empathy despite being wanting to be a man. all you have is aggression and condescension apparently. men just don't get to express themselves in these sorts of ways. "it's just how it is." like i'm sure you're familiar with how women can reinforce misogyny right? EVERYONE is retarded. it's not really anyone's fault, that's what they've been conditioned to feel. the guy probably got secondhand embarrassment from you.
i do like the dunce emoticon though. that's pretty funny.
>>40450961
you're not helping anyone become that by acting like this.

>>40451128
Sorry you wanna suck hitler's dick usually sane people aren't into that. Roach

>>40451128
also you type like an autist

>>40451138
>all you have is aggression and condescension
you just described the average female anon.

>>40451098
>See how I write? Even though I'm a soi liberal I still read as a man.
That's because you offer constructive criticism with no outrage emotional bs. A woman can never address something this logically

>>40450961
ftms literally do nothing but talk shit about men. Why are you ftm?

>>40450856
You sound preycoded

>>40451035
Let them fight, it's funny watching people fall for obvious bait repeatedly

>>40451154
>Why are you ftm?
conditioned to need to be special

>>40451114
In modern writing it's just very rare to use exclamation points as a man. There are some modern instances where it's totally natural to use one as a man but it's usually things like a way to express extreme exasperation during argumentative rhetoric; not to convey excitement or joy or something.

Not saying I'm a good writer. I just clearly would be identified by everyone as a guy. even if I were all-lowercase

and then you have pathetic losers like >>40451153 who just hate women. women are obviously on average more likely to experience and express emotions than men are. doesn't mean they're less logical or analytical in general

>>40451115
"no man" thinks like this because you people beat it out of them before they're able to become free-thinking individuals
i cannot believe i am on /lgbt/ right now nearly everyone itt is insufferable
op is very understandably upset about a needlessly restrictive set of unspoken rules men believe they need to follow - to what end? i have no horse in this race but people like you are a cancer upon the male species. excise yourself

>>40450846 (OP)
>not immediately disabling chat and running it down
ngmi

>>40451163
obviously

>>40451154
>Why are you ftm
Nta but uncontrolable lust for straight women and self inflicted lesbophobia.

>>40450890
Men are made from conditioning
Women are made from conditioning

If that were gone, it's just male and female

>>40450846 (OP)
this literally looks like me in highschool wtf

>>40451177
nobody beats trans men into thinking that way. They just do because that's how men think. Why are you fucking crying about a guy joking about you typing like a woman. Ironically it's just OP being insecure

>>40451174
>doesn't mean they're less logical or analytical in general
That's exactly what it means soifag. Everything they do or even think about has to pass through the stupid feminization filter. Objective reality is not a thing women can even conceive of

>>40451177
I don't really buy this. I am not saying it's good or right to try to enforce gender norms, but the vast majority of the difference is very likely biological in its cause, in most cases.

Compare how autistic cis women and gay cis men write, for example. Regardless of their cultural milieu and upbringing, the former often write in what's considered a more masculine way and the latter often write in what's considered a more feminine way.

Post-puberty, men are less likely to cry because they literally just are biologically less prone to it. One would think this board of all places should recognize that years of exogenous testosterone reduces the rate of crying and vice versa for estrogen. It's the same for endogenous sex hormones.

>>40451199
Being a man is insecurity since you're judged for gender conformity from day zero.

You'd know it well enough and are trying to flee it to be a bottom without critique

>>40451219
tvke

>>40451219
chat is this true

>>40451228
was?

>>40451151
why has there been a growing populace of misogynists?
i mean, i'm all for valid criticism of women. frankly i think there needs to be more of it, alongside activism for men's rights. but, seriously, you guys are just misogynists, and there's more of you every day.
>>40451191
there can come a time, after immensely challenging work, that someone realises everything they thought they were wasn't them at all. it's a terrifying thing to face. most people are not strong enough to take the next reasonable step, 'unconditioning'. what what be left of them with everything that has previously defined them taken away? i think op takes it way too lightly. i'd like to see them undo everything about themselves and come back with a fresh perspective on what it might mean for a man to abandon his (perhaps "toxic") masculinity.

>>40451199
i'm not whatever anon you think i am but op's post came across as more incredulous to me than insecure
men who police the behavior of other men are legit weirdos
>>40451227
something like not being able to cry is irrelevant to this *because* it is biological
telling men NOT to cry, though, has nothing to do with biology. the same is true of policing emoticon usage. why do that? let people live. it's a weird thing to do

>>40451252
It's not misogyny if it's true lmao. Name one woman who is not "masculine" and also is not a catty bitch

>>40451235
No but this is the retard larp logical fallacy board after all.

>>40451253
Nobody is policing anything over league chat gng

>>40451266
>...teammate told me to man up because it's a "girly emoji".
?

>>40451219
I am very familiar with this claim. You realize it could be the case that women on average have a slightly "lower ceiling" in their neurological development while having almost no bearing on "logic and analysis" capability or tendency, right?

I suspect your own IQ, educational attainment, intellectual achievement, and career progress is quite lackluster. Social liberalism is consistently shown to be correlated with such things (as is economic conservatism). So it's the pot calling the kettle black here. The only thing stupider than blank slatism is biological essentialism.

Also, how does this change if you start an XX on exogenous testosterone at a very young age? Who knows, but it's very plausible you might get something closer to the male developmental cycle.

>>40451273
Only a certain chromosomal set would call that "policing"

>>40451253
>men who police the behavior of other men are legit weirdos
No this is just a natural instinct to protect members of the tribe. In this case from embarrassment. The people ITT want OP to be a man but he refuses because as a female he was taught everything he says is automatically right. Because challenging him means you're being misogynistic

>>40451253
I would never tell a man to not use emotes. Just saying if OP wants to be more likely to be perceived as a man, the fact of the matter is he would have to use fewer (really, zero) emotes. Pressuring people is stupid and immoral, but trying to change people's radars is impractical.

>itt: retards having a debatebro jerkoff over an emoticon
lmao

>>40451287
truth hydrogen bomb

The fact of the matter is YES men policing each other over emojis shows they are fragile little sissies and YES op is fembrained and ngmi for bitching about it.

>>40451235
>chat is this true
It's something that's been commonly repeated by the "HBD" / scientific racism crowd for decades. I first saw it from "race scientist" Richard Lynn. It might be true but I am somewhat skeptical.

>>40451286
uh-huh
>>40451287
op refuses because he's right lol
salvation from embarrassment or not, it isn't op who is wrong, it is the world which would deride him for just being himself. i don't care if it is unrealistic to expect the world to change; op is still correct

>>40451339
well murderers also can't be themselves I'd seldom call the world wrong for that. Stop being such a shallot

>>40451349
>comparing the usage of an emoticon men don't find masculine to actual murder
you are not a serious person

>>40451283
>it could be the case
Not really because it means they are just left with less capable hardware overall. You do not have to impair logical/analysis ability directly to cause them to fail at a particular task. If the input is shit due to the emotional bs filter then the output will still be shit. How can you possibly expect them to make a logical choice about reality if they are fed the wrong information?
>at a very young age
How young are you talking here. It seems there's no escape

holy shit i never knew how good we had it while discordia was banned...

>>40451367
>female doesn't understand basic logic
whoulda thunk it

>>40451384
this is a very odd thing to say after your last post

>>40451378
i don't think anybody asked mate

>>40451372
Even if that is all true, we're talking pretty minor differences in neurological architecture and cognitive ability in adulthood, on average.

>>40451378
I filtered that person months ago even though I'm politically aligned with them. You should filter them too. Didn't even know they were in this thread until your post.

>>40451394
explain?

>>40451402
subhuman

>>40451339
>it is the world which would deride him for just being himself
What's expected from a guy is partially a social construct. If you want to transition then you must conform to it whether it goes against who you are or not. There's simply no other way of passing.

>>40451417
What

>>40451424
correct. that's just how life is. it's not a matter of ought, that's simply what it is

>>40451412
what you said was confoundingly illogical
like unbelievably so
in no world is it reasonable to respond "well i think murder is bad so it's good to tell people not to do things" when the thing the person in question is being told not to do is push three keys to make a face in an online game
anyhow you are exhausting me i am going to sleep
good night tttt lmfao

>>40451424
OP clearly passed in this situation because women don't get told to man up

>>40451440
sort of. anyone playing a combat-driven online multiplayer game is assumed to be a guy so it's more a default prior thing, not really a passing thing

>>40451435
You are a full retard that's not what I said at all lol. I made no positive statement moron.
anon says:
>OP wants to be a certain way
>society doesn't want them to be that way
>Therefore society must be wrong
That is quite clearly stupid logic. You probably won't understand you lack the brain cells clearly just by the fact this has to be explained to you

>>40451219
>girls mature faster than boys
This quote refers to body changes during puberty which is obvious, women usually finish puberty around 16 while boys finish around 18
Anyone who thought this quote referred to maturity as in responsibility or decision making fell for feminist bait

>>40451644
It purportedly applies to the brain too, with the argument being that any mammal with an earlier development has a lower ultimate peak. Not saying it's necessarily true but that's the claim.

SHOW ME YOUR WAR FAEC ):<

>>40450846 (OP)
>playing lol
lol at you

>>40450961
Bait

>>40450846 (OP)
a real man uses girly emojis if he wants and doesn't care what anyone else thinks

>>40452515

>>40450846 (OP)
another day another ftm being absolutely and cartoonishly feminine brained