I don't care if you don't believe me.
And I hate you for brainwashing poor dysphoric individuals and grooming them into trans.
It's perfectly fine to dress in girls clothes and be fucked like a girl.
It doesn't have to be a whole identity thing.
It can be FETISH.

if they are dysphoric they should be taking hrt. idrc what else they do

>>40464871
HRT doesn't fix you dysphoria if you're ugly

>>40464891
everybody knows that, it's why uggos get gatekept harder

>>40464891
thats unironically true. if i was ugly id still be wildly dysphoric. but im pretty so my dysphoria is basically cured

>>40464934
>gatekept harder
No they don't

>>40464813 (OP)
It can't be a fetish if you look cute, you have to transition it's a question of morality.
It can stay a fetish, especially if you're too fat or ugly cause you won't pass and nobody want to see you or be around you, it's inconfortable for everyone

>>40464961
they do tho. also, FFS surgeons barely try on those that are hopeless. they only care when the patients will turn out pretty and make good models for their before & afters

>>40464813 (OP)
you all are missing the real question:
> where does agp come from?

>>40464970
What if you pass without taking HRT?
Just well padded silicon suite, great make up skills, and well maintained body and hair management.
>>40465000
For me, it's 100% fetish.
I'm not attracted to men, I'm attracted to myself being a woman.
Whom I have sex with is up to debate though.

>>40465049
yes fetish this fetish that, but why do you have the fetish is the question?

>>40465049
It's not acceptable, you'll eventually hit twink death and nobody want to fuck a balding phat man except if you have a degradation kink or something wilder. You have to transition and deal with the fact that you're going to become a hot tranny. You'll also have a duty to mog ugly troons to prevent them from showing their uncanny faces outside

>>40464971
Can you blame them though?
>>40465119
NTA, but why does anyone have a fetish?
Genetics? Porn? etc?
Some people have coulrophilia, How do you explain that?
>>40465135
>you'll eventually hit twink death
Yeah, that's the sad truth of life.
Getting older is inevitable, HRT won't make you age slower or make you younger though.
and being balding phat tranny is why we have hons pandamic.
You can still be pretty and age gracefully if you take good care of yourself.
Skin care, diet and excersices are life choices.
HRT won't give you those, but I admit if you have dysphoria and HRT cured that and you got out of depression, then you're more likely to start doing these things IMO.
>hot tranny
[citation needed]
>You'll also have a duty to mog ugly troons to prevent them from showing their uncanny faces outside
100% agree with you here.
Either go big or go home.

>>40465184
> why does anyone have a fetish?
Genetics? Porn? etc?
yes, this is exactly the deeper question. i can't explain it, but read up on it. there's many different theories and the scientific consensus seems to not exist. many people do not experience agp anymore after they transition.

>>40464971
Man what did I even save all this money up for then

transvestic fetishism is what you described. it's not the same as agp.

>>40465184
Hrt definitely makes you look younger that's the whole point. Not that I want anything to do with younger people, they're usually dumb as fuck, but at least you can have the body. But yes ofc if you're willing to go through the beauty path you have to take care of yourself hrt won't make everything for you. You'll just have poorer results without trooning, so you'll have to get on hrt, like you said, go big or go home. Unless you want your shinny figures to barely last more than 2 years

>>40464813 (OP)
lowkey i’m not even AGP anymore i don’t know why i still come here and bother tripping when everything i have to vent out is pathetic as fuck

>>40464813 (OP)
it can be a fetish but i didn’t want it to be. i like having a woman’s name and pronouns unfortunately

>>40464813 (OP)
>It can be FETISH.
where do you think that fetish comes from? dysphoria, retard

>>40465263
a hope and a dream. they will bog you if you are too masc going in. look what DB did to lillith

>>40465201
>many people do not experience agp anymore after they transition.
Isn't this because they're living their fantasies?
I mean if I got my fix of my paraphillia and I'm not repressing it, isn't this the reason why anyone would be experiencing it?
Like if you crave cake and you ate cake then you won't be craving cake?
>>40465308
What's the difference?
One is in your head? while the other is in your body or something?
>>40465329
>Hrt definitely makes you look younger that's the whole point
Why women age like shit compared to men then?
pic related, he's 47.
is he on hrt too?
>but at least you can have the body
Yes, I can agree with you on that part.
>>40465331
Because we can be cute girls here
>>40465333
>i like having a woman’s name and pronouns unfortunately
Do you enjoy pink tax as well?
>>40465345
Read this >>40465201

>>40466607
>Read this >>40465201
I did
it's dysphoria

dumbass

>>40466607
He is on an estrogen and get a lot of skin treatments?

>>40466607
>Because we can be cute girls here
but i’m not on estrogen or AGP anymore nor do i larp as a girl because i always clarify that i’m cis now so i don’t understand why i just haven’t left yet it’s not like i have anything to say in any of the discussion here but i still keep coming back

>>40465618
Can you specfiy? Lilltih doesn't narrow it down much when it comes to troons

>>40466792
lilytino, the scourge of tiktok

>>40464813 (OP)
from a purely practical standpoint it's too much of a hassle to get hrt, surgeries not knowing at the end of I'll pass or not

plus the trans women I've spoken with have trouble finding someone who can commit long term

i don't wanna lose my family, friends and then end up a loner jumping from one dick to the next... so might as well just try to live this phase before twink wall hits me and then move on

>>40466815
the only people who will seriously commit are other troons. if youre GAMP it could be fine. now, finding a monogamous non-freaky tranny will be the difficult part.