Thread 40464949

thread for ftm x mtf love
QOTT: What does your ideal relationship look like? What kind of life would you live together?

Cooking him nice dinners, baking treats for him, playing videos games together, play dungeon and dragons with nerds at game shops and laugh about them afterwards. Parallel play and lots of cuddling

eating him out

>>40464949 (OP)
I just want to be able to relax in his arms and go to cool events with him around the city.

>>40464949 (OP)
A simple comfortable life where I live with my gf in a small home/apartment and have some cats :)

>>40464949 (OP)
cute thread i love it

mfw enby so can't be st4t

>>40465017
>I just want to be able to relax in his arms
i need to hit the gym more often...

Crushing his head like a watermelon between my thighs

>>40465289
Would love to see my boyfriend after he gets home from the gym and run up and huggg him

>>40464949 (OP)
I want a guy who makes me feel like I'm safe, loved, valued, like im the most important person in his world. I want to feel like I'm his girl!! And maybe this is cringe but....I really want a traditional relationship where I give my virginity to him & then I'm his wife and he's my husband until we grow old together ;-;

>>40464949 (OP)
>QOTT
a life where we don't have to be in trouble for what we are...

>>40465386
Adorable

>>40465328
imagine the smell

>>40465007
L

>>40464949 (OP)
Honestly a chick who I can tell anything and share absolutely everything about me with. If anyone wants to chat I can share my discord or insta.

I would like to know what ftms like in mtfs, appearence, personality, interests, that sort've thing
>>40466335
big agree

>>40466335
desu i really need someone to talk to too. my disc is paitch_ if u wanna add

>>40467070
sent

>>40466832
tbdesu I like girls that are kinda twinkhonnish, I find it cute. I also need a girl who is similarly autistic as me

>bf starts going to the gym
>make him play wrestle me semi-regularly so i can "check his progress"
>win sometimes bc im in good shape, can usually get out from under him pretty easily after getting pinned
>gets super smug when he wins and even more pissed when he loses
>he wants to stop wrestling "just for a while"
>kind of disappointed because getting pinned is extremely hot, but im not gonna force him
>still get to huff him post-gym though so its okay
>months and months pass and i mostly forget about it, other stuff is more important
>close to a year later and he comes back from the gym and tells me he wants to wrestle
>yay omg
>get pinned almost instantly, nothing like last time
>figure its a fluke, try to break pin and go again
>arms literally wont budge, brain starts to genuinely panic
>wrists pinned over head, heart pounding, feel powerless and actually scared
>this is really, really hot
>look up at him, still struggling. hes never looked at me like this before

ok im stopping there, glad /st4tg/ is back

>>40464949 (OP)
i started dating my best friend a while back i love him so much he is my perfect boy i love him i love my man i love my bf i have beautiful princess disorder and he’s MINE mwehehehehe

and yes, before you ask, we do faux sibcest (based and loving)

>>40467665
giwtwm

>>40464949 (OP)
based thread I love you all

>>40467296
>twinkhonnish
well at least I know trans guys won't think I'm ugly cause of my twinkish nature.
I'm a little autistic but I don't know how similar my tism is to other people's.
>>40467546
>>40467665
immensely jealous but keep bragging it's hopefuel to me

>>40465033
can we have a sphynx cat? ppl say theyre ugly but i think theyre so cute

>>40467772
sorry for brag posting - i’ve never had st4t before and im clearly obsessed :3

>>40468002
I prefer black cats or the super fluffy ones but sphinx cats have grown on me a bit too.

I just want a girl I can fall asleep next each night and take on nice dates

>>40464996
i want to meet lgbt friends through dnd/ttrpgs i play a lot but its hard to find ;_;

wwyd if your ftm bf was giving you an injection and he accidentally gave you his testosterone instead of estrogen

>>40470190
probably cry and make him watch movies with me until i feel better

>>40470190
leave his ass

>>40470385
even if it was an honest mistake?

>>40470190
idk but one time I accidentally sucked prog gel off my wife's tits. Made me more emotional for a couple days, but it was funny enough to not take too seriously

>>40470453
I honestly can't say for sure, most likely i'd probably have a breakdown and withdraw emotionally until you broke up with me

>>40470190
anon is this a hypothetical or did you do this to your gf

>The ftms into st4t tend to be bisexual, submissive, feminine bottoms - typically former fujo 'femboys'
>The masculine, dominant, straight ftms are only into cis women - typically former butch lesbians
Really starting to think that st4t is not really a thing unless you are a very specific type of mtf top with very specific tastes in a bf.
If you want a masculine bf, you are seemingly just kinda fucked by virtue of not being a cis woman.

>>40470550
it isn't a hypothetical, unfortunately

>>40470605
awful

>>40470621
i still haven't told her and i'm not sure if i should

>>40470648
that poor girl.... x.x

>>40466123
Fuck youre making me horny anon
>>40466335
You can share everything with me anon ive never told a soul a secret
>>40467296
Wow I check both boxes
>>40469733
That's so sweet it sounds perfect
>>40470190
Go work out and then make him give me more e to compensate next week

>>40470605
>>40470648
you should tell her anon, she's not going to break up with you. she will be upset but she doesnt deserve to be lied to

bump

Its fake st4t isn’t real if you date a trans girl she WILL leave you for cis dick unless you let her plap your boycunt.

>>40472229
Gross. If you are even open to piv then the relationship is dead before it starts.
The reason why st4t is not real comes down to all of the masculine, dominant, straight ftms exclusively being into cis women. It is that simple.

need to have rough sex with a trans guy who tells me i'm a gay guy pretending to be a woman and that having sex with a cis woman is way better than having sex with a gross faggot like me

>>40472269
Nu uh its 100% picky BPD cock addicted trannies leaving their golden retriever ftm bfs for cis cock because we’re just practice boyfriends to them.

>>40472391
1) Strap >>> actual dick
2) 'Golden retriever' is not an attractive personality type for a guy to have
3) The problem is that 99% of ftms into st4t are feminine, bisexual, bottoms. All of the former butch masculine ftm chads refuse to date trans women

>>40472399
>All of the former butch masculine ftm chads refuse to date trans women
why

>>40472399
>All of the former butch masculine ftm chads refuse to date trans women
Everyone always brings this up in every st4t thread and I'm starting to think its a psyop someone invented. One could easily say trans women all prefer real penis but that would be a blanket generalization and clearly not true.

>>40472409
I assume internalized transphobia that results in a relationship with a cis woman being more gender affirming than a relationship with a trans woman. But I sincerely do not know the real answer.
All I can say is that the bisexual, submissive, 'femboy' ftm types are basically the only ones willing to give st4t a shot. The masculine, dominant, straight ftms are not.

>>40472427
>'femboy' ftm types are basically the only ones willing to give st4t a shot
nta but this is literally not true, ftfemboys are almost exclusively gaydens. what dominant straight ftm wouldnt want a mtf gf?

>>40472447
look up "#st4t" on tumblr

>>40472485
of course you arent gonna find many straight dom ftms on tumblr lol

>>40472447
>ftfemboys are almost exclusively gaydens
I admit I am using the term 'femboy' kinda broadly here. But I am talking about a very recognizable type of feminine, submissive, bisexual ftm that tend to be the ones into st4t.
>what dominant straight ftm wouldnt want a mtf gf?
That is a question for the ftms I guess.
But from personal experience, I can say that the masculine, dominant, straight ftms tend to almost always be former butches and are basically exclusively into cis women.
I want someone with hair, muscles and a malebrain damn it. Not some weird feminine guy fetishising the part of my body that makes me want to end myself.

>>40472358
this shit is hot as fuck

>>40472229
its the other way around, if you date a trans guy he WILL leave you for cis pussy no matter what

how do i find an mtf who'll show me her feet

>>40472900
>feet
Kill your self

>>40472909
>"kill yourself"
are you mtf with ugly feet or ftm in denial that it's arguably one of our most common fetishes

>>40472918
Neither and doesn’t it say something when depraved fetishes are common in your community

>>40472492
the website where most ftms are into being puppyboy subs or detrans fetish is not going to be the place to find dom ftms

do trans guys with foot fetishes like trans girls with foot fetishes

>>40472929
>"neither"
so you're a masc "bi" incel who's resorted to homosexuality due to being a turnoff to both cis & trans women. got it. leave the thread

>>40472935
>mtf giving, ftm receiving
pretty much always
>ftm giving, mtf receiving
ehhh depends
unless the guy has like jock tendencies or the girl is servile/hsts, in most cases the idea of masc feet is a turnoff to women

>>40472938
Not an incel nor a faggot, nice projection though. Sorry you can’t be normal retard

>>40472962
sleepy joe has forgotten which board he's on

>>40465007
This is all we need

>>40472967
I’m here to harass the mentally ill, it’s fun like throwing pennies at a homeless person

>>40472900
>had a foot fetish as a kid
>lost it somewhere around 16
I'd feel so much better about myself if I still liked feet. Its one of the most male brained fetish to have.

>>40472978
>gets cured
>is sad about it
How is it “male brained” retard

>>40472978
Also as a kid???
Lay of the porn bro

>>40472900
literally just goad them into doing it. advertise yourself. chances are if you're on /frengen/ and people are adding you for ftm you can coerce them to do it

>>40472918
nta but i have ugly feet :( i need to make them pretty so i can put them in a boys face

>>40472996
i was going to post on /frengen/ earlier now people are gonna know that i'm the footfag if i post kys

>>40472998
wowzers

>>40472954
why cant we do it back and forth i want my mans feet in my face and i wanna put my feet in his face

>>40473031
You should put a hot metal rod through your face

>>40473031
>why cant we do it back and forth
because i think a lot of bi/straight trans women are too affixed on femininity bias to appreciate masc feet properly
but trans men usually have no such issues

>>40473040
i consider it frequently
>>40473041
desu being into men's feet is more a humiliation thing, like yes they're attractive but 90% of the appeal is being physically and figuratively beneath him

>>40472991
Because its a 99.99% male dominated fetish. I'd much rather be rid of the other dumb fetishes I have.
.>>40472993
I didn't grow up with porn. Just ended up being fixated on scenarios in cartoons that I didn't realize had a subliminal effect on me until puberty hit.

desperately need a tgirl pet but im pre-t faketrans so its over for my dream until that changes

>>40473090
diy

>>40473090
Eh, I could get with a pre-T ftm.
Assuming that he was starting T soon-ish and was at-least kinda masc.

>>40472998
im gonna suck your toes

Met a cute ftm at a party the other day. I was struggling to open the door because it sticks and he came and opened it for me with his big strong testosterone arms it was very sweet. A little too young for me but someone should snatch him up

>>40473177
nooo i need to get a pedicure first

>>40473090
not that i wouldnt date pre-t but you should start t. i am tired of talking to cis boys

>>40464949 (OP)
i mean this with my whole heart: a cis woman in her 40s who keeps me in a kennel and cares for me like a dog. or who keeps me age regressed 24/7 and lets me call her mom.
t. unlovable manmoder

>>40473332
>/st4tg/
retard mtf strikes again

>>40472229
Why would anyone want dirty chaser dick
>>40472269
As a piv apologist I cant like this take either
>>40472712
I hope not :(
>>40472900
Im right here anon give me your discord
>>40473090
Id get you T anon get you on that juice for me

>>40473355
im stoned ;w;

>>40472391
Im a BPD tranny and I would never leave a trans guy for "dick" :c I'm moreso worried any I date will expect piv that I have no interest in and am physically unable to give

>>40473501
>I'm moreso worried any I date will expect piv that I have no interest in
This is why you do not date 'that type' of ftm.
Any ftm worth dating would make it clear from the start that the only one doing any penetration is him.
God, I wish more of the good type of ftm were into st4t.

please dont let the general die while i sleep goodnight

>>40464949 (OP)
bump

>>40473090
desperately need a tboy but i'm no-e faketrans so it's over for my dream

>>40475503
start diy and stop calling them tboys. they are grown ass men.

>>40476470
nyo i will call them tboys because they are CUTE boys!!!!

>>40476470
need a grown ass man

>>40474864
bump

feet

>>40478291
Feet!?!?!

Hey just a little reminder that most people here are cis people who are trying demoralise you.
Me and my bf are real, passing and gender-conforming

>>40472399
>'Golden retriever' is not an attractive personality type for a guy to have
what? yes it is

>>40478859
I'd gain way more respect for golden retriever bfs if they went puppymode

>>40478906
nobody wants a puppymode top...

>>40478954
If love a puppymode top id let him go feral on me

>>40478954
I do

>>40478859
>>40478906
>>40479009
>>40479124

>>40479159
........that's hot if only it wasn't furry but yes peak scenario

>>40478954
wtf yes i do

>>40482137
gross, women should always bottom. this is unnatural

>>40478859
It is really gross. Massive ick factor.
I want a guy with an actual masculine personality.
>>40482179
Waow
(based based based)

>ftm bf to cuddle and watch movies with
>ftm bf to give stomach and arm kisses to
>ftm bf to bake treats for
>ftm bf to smell when hes sweaty
>ftm bf to listen to autistically explain things to me
>ftm bf to do each other's injections
guys i really really REALLY want an ftm bf

bump bump bump

>>40484030
bump before bed

>>40483481
Do all tgirls like ftm sweat?

>mtf gf inhales my armpits
>mtf friends complementary on my stink after workout

>>40484442
T makes you stink good. Like, irresistibly good.
If you were my partner, I would have my face buried in your pits basically all of the time.

>>40484478
That's crazy all I do for hygiene is a 5 in 1 body wash and a can of deodorant. Who knew life could be this simple.

>>40484494
Trust me when I say that your gf would probably really appreciate if you showered slightly less and maybe went pretty easy on the deodorant.
ftm sweat just has this magnetic quality when it comes to mtfs. Lean into it.

>>40484519
Good to know! She's coming over tomorrow so I'll be sure to skip the shower, thank you for the advice ma'am.

>>40484494
anon please take >>40484519 with a grain of salt. as a self-aware odorfag this totally depends on your girlfriend. it is *possible* that she is an odorfag (you'd probably have to ask to really know the extent) and wants you to actually stink, but its far far more likely that she has the normal femalebrained attraction to your natural musk/esp post workout.
there's a big difference between that fresh post-workout sweaty boy smell and genuine unwashed stink from not showering enough. safer approach imo would be to save your sweaty gym shirt and offer it to her subtly (or not idk) to her when you get back from the gym/after working out. THAT is going to work like catnip.

>>40484603
I think she might be, she asks for my unwashed shirts sleep in once a week

I'm a ftm femboy and I love my mtf gf so much.
She is the prettiest girl I've ever seen. She has big brown eyes and pillowy pink lips and a soft heart shaped face. She's really smart, she's almost an engineer. She's also one of the funniest people I know. We are always laughing. We are best friends.
She loves me as I am. Even though I am girly and strange and am struggling in my transition.
She mommies me and treats me like a prince.
We are going to get married one day.

This is my ideal st4t relationship dynamic and I'm so lucky to be with her.
I do wish I could be more masculine for her. I wish I was taller and I know she would like to see me be more confident.

Top tip. Buy your girl flowers.

>>40484938
Personal opinion here: But I hate flowers as a gift. Plant cuttings just are not very appealing to me in general and knowing that they are dying (soon to be thrown out in the trash) always just kinda depresses me and makes me think of death; not love.

Chocolates, a card where you have written out your deepest feelings and jewelry are romantic.
Hell, give me one of your old shirts that you have worked out in (and not washed) and I will be over the moon.
But please not flowers.

>>40484969
Would you be down with planting a tree with him instead, and carving your initials in it when it's grown?

>>40484981
Carving initials in a tree: Yes. Very romantic (as long as he is good with the knife).
Planting a tree: No. Seems more like a chore.

>>40484990
Good with a knife is kind of key here, otherwise it's a trip to the emergency room and bruised pride all around

>>40485008
Eh, as long as he was still able to finish it. I could not call that a disaster.
It would certainly make it more memorable and it would give me an excuse to dote on him and nurse him back to health.

>>40484969
ftms don't listen to this anon i love flowers

>>40485016
Ma'am, if needing a few stitches stopped him getting your initials on that tree. He wasn't worth your time.

>>40485025
To each their own. I'm sure plenty of mtfs love flowers and do not love oder as much as I.
It is why I would probably either ask before hand or accept that your partner may not like flowers if you do get them.
>>40485036
You put that in a very romantic way anon. I legitimately felt my cheeks blush.

>>40485095
All in days work. Wishing you a tguy to treat you well nona

>>40484969
i promise not all of us are this autistic if i got flowers as a gift id cry its so cute

>>40485966
My gf had never been bought flowers before, and it felt like one of the saddest, smallest things.

I try to make sure to buy her some whenever I have spare cash now

can someone buy me a vial of estrogen

>>40479159
Yes exactly this
>>40482137
Need this too
>>40484442
Yes t smell is peak
>>40484494
Ok dont use 5 in 1 tho
>>40486019
I get mine for free lol

I messed up like two chances to befriend ftms that had urges for being sexuaI predators and now I kick myself over it all the time. I don't even like sex. What the fuck is wrong with me.

>>40486454
how do you meet ftms with urges for being sexual predators anon, please tell me

why aren't we talking about feet

>>40486532
My feet passed the other day. I was very proud of myself.

>>40484927
thanks now i'm crying anon

>>40486524
>>40486524
For me it was here + true crime and guro spaces. A few Tumblr communities. I feel kind of awful being even a platonic chaser though

>>40486838
Need to get into the guro community thats where all the best ftms are

>>40486861
I've loved guro since I was 14 but sadly everyone who wanted to eat me IRL flaked

unfortunate lack of feet in this thread

>>40487227
id post feet but im shy about ending up in your folder anon

>>40487233
isn't the folder the end goal

>>40464949 (OP)
her penis in my vagina

>>40487400
no only my future boyfriend gets to be a pervert about my feet

>>40464949 (OP)
need a clocky passoid 5’7 ftm with the same build as me

when an ftm wants a clocky tgirl he is my friend and comrade without further explanation or knowledge of him needed
when an mtf wants a clocky tboy I feel ill at ease in most (but not all) cases. I know this is a bias but I don't know where it came from, I notice it a lot when I'm in st4t spaces

>>40488050
nigga i just want a bitch with the same passability as me for balance

>>40487757
>clocky
>passoid
words used to mean things

can we talk more about feet

>>40488816
worst fetish

why are degen gooner trans guys so hot, something abt them makes me crave to fulfill their weird fantasies

Bump

I love straight slop

>>40464949 (OP)
are trans guys okay with calling mtf trannies faggots in bed if we really want to fujoshi out

>>40464949 (OP)
are trans girls okay with being called faggot in bed if i kiss them after

>>40492200
this is the ideal, i would give anything for this

>>40489605
nuh uh

>>40490184
im still thinking about this, i want a weird bf who fetishizes me!!!

i'm glad this thread is still alive. i want a mtf gf so bad bros

>>40492638
I met my gf on here over a year ago and we're still together, dont lose hope anon

>>40492684
howd you start talking?

>>40492747
She was just tfw no bf posting and I added her on discord. We just got an apartment this year and now we get to live everything we stayed up all night talking about that night we met. I love her so much and I would send an unsee of her sleeping next to me if I knew she wouldn't definitely see this thread

>>40492684
Same brother. Hope you're happy!

I like ftms when they look like short soft skinny gay boys..

>>40492604
Hi

>>40493024
tfw no bf

>>40493137
hii

>>40493137
>>40493148 im getting in bed but feel free to add me: tulirix

cried in his car on monday night after spending three days with him, knowing that he'll never have me and that i'm a predatory troon for hoping he would. it's so over, and no, we're not so back.

>>40493024
giwtwm, maybe one day i'll find a way to talk in the discord consistently but talking in large servers is hard

The need for a gf gets stronger every day, I want to cook meals for her and remember little things she talks about so I can give her gifts, I wanna watch movies with her and discuss them afterwards and laugh together, I wanna hear her talk about her day while we cuddle, I want her to teach me about her interests and I can autistically ramble about mine.

Talking to women is hard. Realistically I know it'll happen someday (only 18), but god does it get lonely :(

need

Good morning st4t. I don't really come to 4chan much anymore, but I just wanted to remind you, you will find a ftm husband or mtf wife one day. I'm the ftm husband to a beautiful gorgeous, and funny mtf wife. She's asleep right now, and watching her sleep always makes me smile. We're a bit older (I, 29, her, 30). Been together six years and getting to wake up everyday to see her is always a pleasure and I love that we're going to grow old together.

i got topped by my bf for the first time last night and omfg… i am beyond down bad for this man. st4t supremacy yet again. i’d rip my arms off to keep him happy

is this a normal response to having a bf or am i crazy

i wanna huff his pits and crawl inside his skin

>>40490184
my bf and i match each others freak level perfectly it makes me so happy >.< he’s such a freak degenerate big brother <3

>>40464949 (OP)
my gf won't take her clothes off in front of me or let me touch her under them and we've been dating for 6 months
whenever i ask why she just shuts me down and says she doesn't want to talk about it
what does that mean?

>>40465386
loser faggot

>>40495396
pay for her srs so she'll take her clothes off around you

>>40495396
Most of us have some deep trauma and severe body image issues.

>>40472399
why would you want to date an HSTS pooner anyway, HSTS pooners are vapid low-iq NPC people just like HSTS trannies

>>40492200
i wouldn't date anyone who didn't call me faggot in bed

many people in this thread seem to be under the terrible misunderstanding that t somehow turns ftms into hot tall chads that are basically cis but with a pussy, when more often than not youll be stuck with a chubby or maybe twinky 5'2 androgenized girl with the acne and facial hair of a 15 year old boy lol

>>40472485
lollll why do so many pooners look like this

>>40472900
i'll do it in exchange for a foot massage

>>40473214
>too young
there's no such thing as too young

lactating tgirls

>>40478859
>tfw no dog bf

>>40492200
no kiss, i want you to call me a faggot and then hit me and make me sleep on the floor

>>40495396
just do it anyway
you're not supposed to ask trannies for consent, just take what you want, they won't fight back

>>40492684
>>40493049
Another same. I wish I could post more cute stuff but it’s hard to write about love when you don’t lack it

>>40464949 (OP)
this is your sign to make your gf wear slutty cow lingerie

>>40495855
tfw no bf to make me wear his weird gooner fantasy outfits. its so so so hot and worth the embarrassment

chat, as a milsurp boymoder lateshit how do i find a nice boyfriend

jannies can you please ban me from /lgbt/ for 5 months thanks

>>40496885
why only 5 months?

>>40494328
i cant believe im at the age where im too old to date 18 year olds anymore

why am i in this thread at this point it's just self harm reading this

>>40497018
how is it self harm to yearn for the best possible pairing?

>>40497030
because i know i will never get it i am just an ugly stinky incel moid

>>40497039
this could be an mtf or ftm post there is no way of telling.
regardless, you will find pure straight t4t love. just give it time

>>40487227
I'll post my feet in your dms anon
>>40487400
no you sucking on them is
>>40487567
Heyyyy handsome *hair flip*
>>40492200
yes
>>40492604
me toooo

total mtf love

Are there any trans girls into abdl stuff that would want to get diapered up with an ftm boyfriend or are they all transbians?

>>40495454
>>40495462
chaser psyop

>>40495137
Thats so cute

>>40495137
great artist. i wish the fem riddler character had a dick though.

bumppp

>He dated cis women before me
Am I being settled with

How many of the girls here go to trans social events? I've been going but I've no idea how to chat up strangers, but I'd hate being the kinda ftm to never initiate ever

>>40466832
I really just want to love a trans girl with similar autism to my own who licks my feet sometimes. Is that too much to ask for?

tfw no MTF girlfriend who looks like a shorter, female version of myself and who calls me big brother

>>40501872
I like having a bunch of other trans people in my wider circle of friends. So I make a point of going to trans events.
But honestly, I hardly ever see ftms there. It is always just mtfs and theyfabs. It is a real shame.
>I've no idea how to chat up strangers
Join an ongoing conversation/activity and contribute. Show off your personality.
>I'd hate being the kinda ftm to never initiate ever
Being able to initiate is probably one of the most important things for an ftm (imo, as a mtf).
It shows confidence and and confidence is inherently attractive. Also, you cannot really expect mtfs to initiate ever, it is just not in the personality of like 99.9% of us.

>>40501945
>It shows confidence and and confidence is inherently attractive.
Thats very true, I definitely feel way more confident after transitioning but my cope is that I don't want to come off as a creepy moid since I'm not really all that visibly trans. I have to get over myself though

>>40502110
The most of the time you are not going to come off as creepy. Speaking as a mtf, I think it is something that the majority of us would actually really appreciate.
Just remember that like 20% of mtfs are lesbians, so probably try not to come in too hot right out of the gates. Build a rapport and feel things out.

>>40501741
yes, he will leave you for a cis woman

>>40502590
I don’t think he will I think he just had his fun and now needs to settle with someone

>>40501872
i used to but the kinds of people who go to those social events in my city are the kind who would kick me out of their group for having used this board. especially the trans guys for some reason.

t. experience dating st4t irl

>>40502652
Usually mtfs are just a novelty in between cis girlfriends. Or training wheels, your pick.

>>40502708
No I think anon is right, they’re just no-drama golden retriever boyfriends because they’re autistic boys. But absolutely nobody would ever date them above cis women. It makes sense why a ftm would date trannies after all the exciting stuff with them.
You tend to see much more honeymoon energy and gratefulness in cis chasers

>>40501741
yeah probably that's a bad sign

>>40502825
am i retarded i genuinely have no idea what you're saying

>>40502870
Only cis people are excited to date trannies

>>40503203
huh why

bump

>>40464949 (OP)
would an ftm be okay with his gf still wetting the bed sometimes i can't control it and it's really embarrassing but i just have a very weak bladder

>>40504344
kinda cute but id make you wear pullups for bedtime (in the least ABDL way possible)

>>40501741
No, not at all

would any trans man date a manmoder. please. please.

>>40504563
i get it and you're right but being seen wearing pullups would be the most embarrassing shit in the world id kill myself. i wish i was a diaperfag at least then i could get off on it

>>40504563
>in the least ABDL way possible
I don't believe you anon.

>>40504752
You can't have the cake and eat it too

>>40504344
you are trying to coax us into entertaining your diaperfag fantasies and I am not playing along

>>40504865
i swear to god i dont have a diaper fetish. i dated a guy who was into that and i could get into some of the bladder/wetting stuff but the diaper stuff made me feel really gross.
i have many other weird fetishes that i wouldnt deny having

>>40466832

Similarly Autistic + A girl That is Very Fembrained & Gets off On Playful Gender-Affirming mysogeny Twards her.

I like Girls Twinkish & Faggy pre-E & Watching them Get Curvier & Fatter on E

Also. i Do get Embarrassed about It Sometimes- Dispite knowing Its a Common Tgirl Fetish- Perhaps its just That alot Of the Trans Women i meet Are Quite AGP-

But I really Want a girl I Can like. Doll Up. Braid her Hair & Make her Put on Cute Revealing Dresses that Shes Embarrassed abt.

I suppose I just Like When Women *really* Like doing Feminine stuff. But are Embarrassed. So i can Feel Dominant & More masculine In Comparison.

I just, Have alot of Issue with Finding Girls that Would Like. Someone like Me. Heightpoon Roachmaxxer DL Mysogenist Fetish "FTM" is Like. Generally Considered Least attractive Demographic. Pooners are just Worst of Both Worlds. Short & Ugly & Fembrained & Has an Axe Wound instead Of anything Useful. Humiliating Existance.

Maybe when I Gymmaxx More i Will be Less Embarrassed To Exist around Women. But im Still pretty fresh Post-op Top Surgery. & Am not allowed to Lift. Torchure.

>>40504817
What part is the cake and eating it. I just want a boyfriend

>>40472427

Often this Is the Case. I dislike Cis Women Heavily but Also The Dysphoria from Having a Trans Woman be so Effortlessly Better at being Masculine then I Am sometimes Means that Its Difficult.

I Am not Really a Chad though So i cant Speak to Men who actually Can go Stealth. Masc only Insofar As i Have been on T AWhile & Present as Male Exclusively with No Femininity. not Really actually Attractive by Any CisM Standard.

>>40472918

I Was under Impression The most Common Fetish was Pregnancy / Ovi / Impregnation / Mysogeny just based On Porn Demographics made & Featuring Trans 'men'

Incest is Like the only Based Common FTM Fetish. rest Are chaserSlop.

Feet can Be Hot but I dont Know if Its actually Common kink Wise. Shoes are a Normie CisM Fetish though So Sure.

>>40473082

Damn Is it not Normal to Be Strokin yr Shit age @ 11 ?

>>40476584

This is Why the Straight FTMs go for Cis Women.

>>40478859

Too Fembrained of A Man.

pls love pls love

>>40482137

Wow another MTFtop x FTMbottom so Heckin Valid & Radical Dood !1! Smash those Gender Roles by Getting heckin pupper BoyPreggers !!

>>40505409
Honestly anon, I think a good deal of that is just your own brainworms.
While I admit I was never exactly masculine before transition, the former butch ftm chads that I'm talking about are universally far more masculine then I ever was a guy.
But I do get the dysphoria of feeling as if you are not 'enough' of the gender you are presenting as. Not feeling feminine enough really fucked with me for awhile, before I was eventually able to process that objectively I was more feminine than most cis women. I think the same will be true with you (just in terms of masculinity, if you take a step back and look at yourself from an outsiders perspective.
>I Am not Really a Chad though
When I say 'chad', I'm mostly talking about a personality rather then an apperance.
In my experience the former butch ftms just have this real masculine spark to their personality. A radiant masculine energy that other ftms simply lack.
Things like muscles or height are nice. But it is the personality that makes a person attractive to me personally.
>not Really actually Attractive by Any CisM Standard
Attractiveness is in the eye of the beholder.

would ftm TOPS date a 4 year hrt ffs boymoder
u can forcefem me if u want ig

>>40486454
>>40486524
>>40486838

From a FTM That was Into This stuff.

SH spaces Have an Overwealmingly High number of Guro RapePoons & an Extreme Shortage of Cute Tgirls w/ EDs & Selfharming Tendancies

If youre A Twinkhon Just cut Yourself & its Not that Hard to Find Degenerate FTMs willing to Froth & Foam over how Hot you Are.

Atleast thats How all My old Spaces used To Treat Trans Women.

>>40487757

>Is 5'6
>Im never Gonna Get a GF FMSPL

>>40505490
Woah brother, sounds a group of really well adjusted guys who will definitely treat women correctly.

>>40490184

Everyone Says this & Still I have Not met a Single girl Schizo Enough to Match my Freak. Everyones A Larper. cant Handle Unwashed Schizo Tdick.

>>40505501

It was A Self Harm Guro Server what Do you Expect ?

I will say I Have disengauged With alot of SH/ED Stuff because Of too Much Transmysogeny & ALOT of Minors & normalization Of Being groomed. It has its Pros & Cons for Sure.

But if you Are looking For Something Toxic. witch Some Women are as Self Harm- Then there are Ways to Get it in The Way you Want.

people Should Get to Pick how They Fuck themselfs Over.

>>40505459

>the former butch ftms just have this real masculine spark to their personality

Idk if Dyke Personality is Actually translatable To being Seen as Male.

I have Been told By Cis Men that i Do Come off as Very Straight & Cis. But also i Have been Chased by Said cis men Witch Doesnt Happen When people Actually see You As male.

>Attractiveness is in the eye of the beholder.

I mean Always to an Extent But you Can objectively Say that Some people are More Desirable then others. If only Because They have More People Attracted to Them.

>>40501741

Trans Women are Better then Cis women Because Cis Women are Cis & Also will Always have a Drastic Power dynamic In Any C4T relationship.

Tranny4Tranny Is the only Power Dynamic That isnt entirely Completely fucked If theres some kind Of Serious Abuse that Needs intervention. CisFems are Always a Legal Liability.

I already Get Treated like A fucking Schizo Tranny for Doing Basic Normal shit. If a CisF Accused me Of Raping her Or being A Creep She could just Fuck me over Entirely.

I dont Think its 'Settling' really.

Sorry for Autistically Replying to 70 Different Posts i am Off my Meds tonight.

>>40505561
>Idk if Dyke Personality is Actually translatable To being Seen as Male
Maybe not when it comes to cis people?
But as a mtf into st4t they do that have unique masculine spark in my eyes. That is why they are the only type of ftm I would consider dating.
>I have Been told By Cis Men that i Do Come off as Very Straight & Cis
Well there you go.
>But also i Have been Chased by Said cis men Witch Doesnt Happen When people Actually see You As male
They would chase you if they were bi or gay anon.
>If only Because They have More People Attracted to Them
Avatar is one of the most profitable movies ever and it sucks.
Attractiveness is not a popularity contest and something being popular does not mean that it is good.

>>40505509
drop discord so i can prove you wrong

bullying gf for putting pills up her butt every night

>>40505626
why did you post this right when i was about to boof my prog anon, that's creepy

>>40505594

>They would chase you if they were bi or gay anon.

If youre Attracted to A Guy specifically Because he Has a Poon [Or an Intersexussy in my Case IG] Then you Do not Like him as A Man you Like him because He is An Uwu Cuntboy-

But it Could be Just the standard Intersex Chaserism in every Single Queer space That im Using to fuel My Brainworms. He did Only Start Flirting with Me After learning Im Trans Though.

>being popular does not mean that it is good.

Well but Being Popular Means you just Objectivly have a Significantly larger "pool" to Pick From for prospective Relationships- & Therefore get to Have Higher standards & Self respect While still being In a Relationship-

I find Conventionally Attractive IG Reels Humunculai Disgusting But they Will always be A More "valuble" Partner in A Statistical Sense then I Am.

Maybe Im just a Little BDD. Get told the Same about My Voice. but Between constant Hugboxxing & Meaningless transphobia Its Always difficult to Descern your Actual Passing Level in any Given Characteristic- & When you do Get Clocked its Not like you can Survey That Shit to figure Out what to Work On.

>>40505631
you can't just insert small objects in your butt every 24 hours and not expect to get teased for it

pls love pls love

>>40505625

Well you See. This is the Issue Because i Only use a Fan Recreation of A Defunct Microsoft Chatting Platform from 2009. & Retain a discord Only for Larping in Theyfab dominated Tranny servers because Im Broke as Hell & Need to ask people For Rides & Such.

https://escargot.chat/download/
pastadough@escargot.chat

Or @pastadough on Discord. I Guess. Though its Embarrassing.

>>40505640
>If youre Attracted to A Guy specifically Because he Has a Poon
Well those are just chasers. Every trans person has to deal with them.
Chasers showing interest in me because of what I have between my legs does not may me less of a woman.
>because He is An Uwu Cuntboy
Those sorts of ftms really do exist. But they are explicitly the type I do not like.
>He did Only Start Flirting with Me After learning Im Trans Though
We all have to deal with chasers. Don't let them get you down.
There is a reason why so many of us are exclusively t4t after all.
>Have Higher standards & Self respect While still being In a Relationship
I think you are looking at this from an overly analytical perspective.
Everyone can find true love. Focusing on just how big your dating pool is just serves to get you down.

>>40492638
I want a ftm bf so bad bros

i want an ftm to fetishize me now!!!!

Bump

>QOTT: What does your ideal relationship look like? What kind of life would you live together

I already date an mtf who's the light of my life. So pretty and makes me forget I'm ftm sometimes.

Our relationship is mainly centred around our mutual interests, studying and helping improve each other.

Did anything come out of the st4t server matchmaking?

im trying to voice train and get rid of my twinkhon fagvoice, if anyone wants to give me prompts i will say (almost) anything for cute boys and post vocaroos

>>40508142
how did you meet?

>>40464949 (OP)
I am so bored i need to talk to a guy or I will die

>>40464949 (OP)
QOTT:Need a bf that will go camping with me and look for cool bugs with me. Also encouraging me to present more female and deworming my brain. I want someone I can devote my time to and just exist with, making art and playing video games and watching nature documentaries and all that.

bump

>>40509248
try some barking

>>40510903
https://voca.ro/1ebMKNriKBIm
im not used to barking this was kind of embarrassing

>>40510872
Bump dont let the best gen die

>>40509960
What kind of cool bugs do you like nona? Liking bugs seems to be a ftm stereotype but they're fascinating creatures especially compared to the common favorites being mammals or birds.

why does the guy i'm seeing keep referring to my dick as a clit....

i love women i wanna rape a transbian twinkhon and then convince her to see the true light of st4t and she starts enjoying it and then i slit her throat and necrophilia her

>>40512133
hot u can do this to me
t. very fem-leaning bishit with transbian tendencies

>>40510991
you do have a very cute voice, and a strong bark too! good girl :)