Thread 40491772

please don't pretend like transphobia towards trans men is nearly as bad as transphobia towards trans women. it isn't and never will be. transandrophobia is real, but it's not even 1/5th as bad as transmisogyny.

>>40491772 (OP)
the problem with transphobia towards trans men is that it has no systematic effect on society. when transphobia towards trans women happens, it spreads towards every crevice of society and even into politics. people start making transphobic caricatures of trans women in media and pushing transphobic stereotypes about trans women in ways that just doesnt happen to trans men. south park has made like 6 or 7 episodes and maybe more, attacking trans women with the most recent one from the sports thing. troon used to be an obscure slang in a dead image board and its now an extremely popular insult. when a trans woman mentioned she was about to kill herself the internet went haywire with joy, yet ive seen like 2 posts about trans men killing themselves and both have people mourning the women they were. even when trans men are attacked they turn it around to attack trans women by implying we are the evil groomers forcing young women to cut up their tits so we can fuck them for some reason. i do believe trans men do face transphobia, but its ridiculous to think its as bad as the one we face. transphobes legit dont care about trans men, most dont even know theyre real

>>40491772 (OP)
Transmisogyny is largely just misandry repackaged thoughbiet

>>40491829
>south park has made like 6 or 7 episodes and maybe more, attacking trans women with the most recent one from the sports thing.
Hmmm... chud... South Park is a based left wing show nao.

No one will ever be scared a confused, fat woman on T.
No sperm, no fear.

Just a liddle guy
He was pwobabwy pwanked by social media!! But the transgurl is transitioning to TRICK PEOPLE AND SEEEEEEED THEM!!

ultimately, people hate AMaBs

>>40491772 (OP)
one day the trans community will go back to when only trans women were considered trans and all trans men were either stealth or butches on t and none of them talked about being trans, and all these problems will be solved. no more poonies claiming oppression that isnt theirs

>>40491847
only mentally disabled people, rich guys and straight up fascists still support trump. normal conservatives have moved on from him

>>40491829
Yeah... its a banger post.

the amount of lenience granted to afabs is astronomical compared to that of amabs so even though they'll transition the same amount as us and do the same level of experimentation they wont actually be desocialized like we are. some of them are trans and deserve the label and some of them like im convinced it wouldnt even register to other tme folks that they were trans if they didnt say it. like. how can andrew hussie, a non-woman, be so affected by transmisogyny? because some explicitly nonbinary positions are seen as afab and ACCEPTED for afabs

>>40491844
>misandry
word you're looking for is oppositional sexism. misandry would imply its women doing it to increase their status over men, when really its both sexes doing it to keep their status as tme. although oppositional sexism isnt perfect either, it (by which i mean serano) kinda implies men started it when im convinced this shit predates the patriarchy completely

>>40491772 (OP)
RETARDS LIKE THIS RUINED MY LIFE I WAS IMPRESSIONABLE AND NOW MY HIPS ARE FOREVER SMALL RELATIVE TO THE REST OF ME KMS KMS KMS KMS KMS KMS

white trans men especially. Seattle is basically transmasc israel where instead of arabs they have amerindians

>>40491973
i want a trans only society where trans women rule everything and all cis people are kept in prisons and only masc pooner gentlemen can rise to a higher position while he/theyfabs and nonbinaries are condemned to slavery

>>40492014
please poon out darby it will be good for your soul

>>40492023
no you dont get it that was part of my masochistic fantasy

>>40491994
retarded word games to obfuscate the fact that male=predator and female=prey in the eyes of the entire species

>>40491994
This is just semantics.

The bottom line is the same tired lines that are brought out against trans women are no different than the lines brought out against spergy men. Creepy sexual predators and pedophiles. The only thing more loathed than a tranny is an autistic man

>>40492014
SAAAAME!!! mr xi i beg of you PLEASE let me have nukes PLEASE us poor transfems need sovereignty against the big bad united states!! just as much as the dprk! yes yes mr xi i read my quotations and am engaged in active struggle against the bourgiousie now PLEASE

>>40492028
i forgor you're nonbinary my bad

>>40491867
>rich guys
Trey and Matt just got 1.5B USD for 50 episodes.

>>40492047
id likely just get thrown into prison anyway because i cant even fully accept the fact that im nonbinary and would probably just consider myself cis

>>40492050
*treya

>>40492044
>>40492029
no but they'll let you be a predator if you're not autistic and they arent looking for a scapegoat!! they'll let you get away with so much shit. remember amber heard? people fucking hated her, acted like depp was infallible, but do you think he would've recieved any amount of that grace if he was a tranny/ autistic? also, they only thing worse than a tranny isnt an autistic man, its an autistic tranny. like i see your point, im closeted and i still experience the root of the oppression but it only started translating into danger for me when i was at risk of being outed

>>40492009
But at least you didn’t take a dangerous controlled substance!

>>40492093
so true!

>>40491844
TRVKE

>>40491772 (OP)
If you believe this, I wont mourn you when you become a statistic. Transwoman narcissism knows no bounds.

>be transwoman
>everyone hates you
>well at least you have other transwomen

>be transman
>everyone hates you
>the end

>>40491973
>tme
go back to tumblr lol what is this bullshit

>>40491772 (OP)
Trans men are like 1/100000000th as gross as deranged as trans women. They don't rape kids like Kris Tyson or rape their moms like Chris Chan. Plus trannies are constantly trying to rape them.

>>40492640
>trannies are constantly trying to rape them
i want them to rape me but i would never ever ever ever tell anyone to avoid making trans womens optics worse

>>40492624
ah, forgot my normal lurk sesh. figuratively kms for your sake

i think we should all love each other

>>40492661
whos this guy

>>40492693
just a background character

>>40491772 (OP)
>anarchist symbol
fuck off i have never seen an anti-diy anarchist

>>40492719
looks lik me

>>40491772 (OP)
Who the fuck cares about this conversation besides Reddit and Twitter trans groups? Pedophiles control the US Government and another group of pedophiles that actively hates us is trying to lobby for payment processors to do their bidding to shut down whatever content they don't like. What you're describing is literally a non-problem. Objectively a non-problem. Even if it were the case that a trans man suggested that he he faced as much transphobia as me or other trans women, it literally does not matter enough to give attention to it when there are significantly more pressing threats. Retard. Go back to Xitter or Reddit.

>>40492996
Its a useless debate too considering all trans people whether ftm or mtf are forced to live in a shitty society that hates us and wants us to not exist. It doesn't accomplish anything to discuss and argue when we are stronger together.

>>40491994
julia serano is a fat ugly sissy fetishist

>>40491772 (OP)
>Be pooner
>Be guardin copycat
>Doesn't even know who guardin is
Every. Single. Time.

you people act like being seen as a helpless delusional widdle baby poonlet isnt fucking disgusting and infuriating in its own way. I know you AGPs see no issue with that it because its your fetish but actually living it is different. I truly am sorry your genitals got you forced into the rapey pedo demon category of life, but having the helpless innocent baby "you dont know what you want or what you're talking about and you never will" genitals isnt much better. Why cant you accept that it all sucks instead of always trying to pin the blame on people that hate themselves just as much as you hate yourself. Not every tgirl is a rapehon and not every tguy is a little tomboy hopping on a trend just to detrans and fuck everyone else over whenever it benefits them

>>40495302
aww its okay wittle guy, you can be a she/her trans dood if you really want

>>40492009
you can get implants

>>40492009
if you were actually dysphoric you would have just taken the hormones anyways, stop blaming others for your own actions

>>40495302
Its just jealousy because ultimately from a material and living standpoint it is far better to be seen as harmless than a threat to be destroyed.
Dont get me wrong being seen as harmless still leaves you very open to harm, but poons are just as open to harm as troons as they have about the same level of influence on politics but they dont are not seen as a threat to be destroyed at any cost.
Its not much better of a situation and dividing the entire community over it is exactly what the elite want, and its honestly sad that so many are willing to rip the community apart over less than table scraps.

>>40492011

>Amerindians

Shadowrun player? We're supposed to call them Indigenous or Native people I'm pretty sure lol. You're right though, it's ftms and transmasc enbys as far as the eye can see out here

trannies love pretending to be feminazis as if they arent incels purposely adopting a "actually im a woman and youre a man, so you are awful" mentality as a way to get away with hatred against woman
notice how these transbians never shut the fuck up about cis woman and "trans men" yet never say anything about cis men or femboys. gee, I wonder why.

all it does is prove "transphobes" right when they see how much troons hate and shit on pooners lmao its malebrained men being whiny faggits as usual while pooners, being fembrained woman, are constantly wondering why society hates them and ignore their struggles as privileged males act like they have it the hardest as always.

I don't feel bad for pooners though. YWNBAM.

>>40496865
Jerk off before you post omg

>>40496865
>notice how these transbians never shut the fuck up about cis woman and "trans men" yet never say anything about cis men or femboys. gee, I wonder why.
bro are u blind??? transbians are some of the biggest manhaters on the internet

>>40496984
they only hate on handsome chads for getting more attention from women than them, loser men are all potential transbians to them and get coddled

>>40496995
please go to other parts of the internet outside of 4chan and maybe tumblr tme/tma discourse circles bcuz ur being legit delusional also pls go outside too

>>40492640
FTM actually commit more sex offences than MTF according to data from the UK LOL

>>40495302
it just doesn't have the same negatives though the material reality is much different. trans women are way more likely to get hate crimed, it's not just about portrayal, and yes being seen as a violent rapist is much worse than being seen as helpless lmao just objectively, one justified violence against you, the other justifies pity, which is at most a mild annoyance

>>40497044
Link?

>>40497062
the fact that pooners legit think being seen as harmless is worse than being seen as a cancerous danger is crazy to me. theyre either idiots or havent suffered enough to know wtf theyre talking about

>>40491973
I wonder how people on Tumblr would feel if they found out you regularly use 4chan. It's quite obvious that anyone on Tumblr calling people theyfabs and TME are from 4chan yet they vehemently sent it, but anyone on 4chan knows the truth

>>40497162
Deny*

>>40491772 (OP)
I don't think comparing this shit is useful in any way and I think that a lot of trans women talking about how the big bad trans men are oppressing them and would never have it as bad as them are jerking off to their own sorrows and drowning in an ocean of pity. Like even I personally believe trans women have it worse than trans men but I still think trans men go through a lot and it does absolutely nothing to constantly compare oppressions like a fucking toddler. Btw you're revealing you're from Tumblr by talking about "transandrophobia" bullshit

>>40492061
she did strike me as surprisingly fem, would tbhonky

>>40492011
is this true i only saw 1 other poonah when i was in seattle (spent several months there)

>>40491847
South Park says drumpf has a smol pp and libs cheer like they're woke leftists or something. This is on the level of rebellion of popular and studious high school kids doing a senior prank.

>>40497062
>>40497111
I'm not saying this makes daily life equally miserable for mtfs and ftms, but this dismissive attitude towards the infantilization of afabs is in part why even though medical access, especially for minors is the most targeted right by transphobes the trans community is so utterly ineffective at fighting for it. Activists types are unable to conceive of any form of transphobia that doesn't mainly target trans women, and don't want to imply that ftms are victims of a type of societal misogyny that women are historically victims of (they are men, after all). Mtfs will call for gatekeeping for afabs only before both aknowledging that the crusade against medical care has nothing to do with them, and it's due to infantilisation of foids specifically being used to revoke the autonomy of a person

>>40498868
>starts calling trans women disgusting agp fetishists for disagreeing with them
>gets corrected about being worried about an absolute nonissue
>"ermm, im just trying to apply nuance lets not try and compare suffering we're in this together!! :)"

lmao shut up

>>40498663
The most pathetic thing was seeing an Ukranian troon celebrating this. Even fucking Colaws had more of a spine by showing Trump with Epstein in that plane.

>>40499281
Nigga are you retarded? This is an anonymous website where several people can respond

most Transphobia is just misandry and man hatred

>>40499849
this
>t. transphobic as hell

>>40492996
It is an issue though because pooners not being amicable towards AMAB trannies and treating them as potential rapists like foids would treat your average cis male isn't helping.
It might be incel logic but if transmascs were actually interested in good relations with their counterpart, maybe they should stop worrying about rape from a demographic that is completely miniscule in the amount of their offenses when compared to actual cis men, and start worrying about being not completely shit and ignorant towards their compatriots.

It's just more proof that AFABs don't see transition as legitimate or as something materially real

>>40492456
This lol
>>40492640
Also this, people are mostly okay with ftms because it’s obviously a real thing while MtTs are obviously not real.

>>40497044
Factually incorrect. An MtT is more likely to rape someone than get raped. It’s that bad.

>>40501133
Source?

>>40498663
the timing they released it was pretty ballsy considering that the networks had just cancelled some talk show to make the admin happy to get a merger approved. The joke seems to be on the executives who thought it would be "woke is dead" from the promo material lol.

>>40491994
Except women ARE doing it to maintain status over amabs.

>>40491829
See I would think this but I was on twitter making similar comments. I received so much hat that I looked into it a little. when I looked at the studies for violence (there was like three big institutions or something who conducted them) the violence towards both groups the rates virtually do not differ which was surprising. So I assume as a meme and in the media transwomen seem to be disproportionately attack but the consequences when it comes to violence directed towards them is virtually equally inflicted on transmen too.

Can I ask why it's mostly white people having this conversation...? I'm not being rude when I ask this. Whenever it's videos and what have you it's always lighter skinned people. I have yet to see a fine black doll or nice black dood talking about this. May I ask the white people why you need to compare base so bad? More oppressed competition?

>>40505740
Trvthnvke

>>40505740
Americans are so obsessed with race it's crazy

>>40505740
Most of the trans hatecrimes are done to trans black people, which they don't wanna admit. White trannies have about equal oppression to each other, black trannies have it worse than both white troons and pooners

>>40505751
Well, it was a big part of our history unfortunately... So it's very baked into the system here>
>40505753
>Most of the trans hatecrimes are done to trans black people, which they don't wanna admit.
I haven't seen this mentioned yet, either.

>>40491847
>these pics
Yeah, at sum point he will take off the mask and reveals hes saddam.

>transandrophobia is real
No it isn't.
>t. trans man

>>40506082
It's real as in trans men are oppressed but the term transandrophobia is so retarded

>>40506090
>It's real as in trans men are oppressed
No one is denying that. The issue is that it is more often than not used as a cudgel against trans women.

When a trans woman gets outed she becomes a low IQ rapist that is no longer safe for women and children to be around because of innate violent tendencies.
When a trans man is outed he becomes a helpless victim of the patriarchy tricked into giving up his innate beauty.

They are both oppression, but only one is going to get you hurt in the wrong hands.

>>40506216
It's mindnumbingly obvious yet trans men INSIST that they have it just as bad. Only ROGDs/theyfabs actually think this way.

Moids are so privileged, trans "women" who think this way are ngmi

>>40501092
amab trannies are not being amicable towards pooners to begin with and the second that energy is returned you all bitch and cry. Only men are this unable to take shit, which is why amab trannies are not even a real thing.

>>40491772 (OP)
off topic but im curious, whats the pay like for being an fbi agent whos job is to incite infighting on 4chan? do you think its a decent entry level job for a cucked tranny who wants to kiss cops asses?

>>40505740
>>40505753
Because black men are some of the biggest transphobes.

>>40506216
im a trans man and i was physically and sexually assaulted after i came out in middle school (some of which was by my own parents)

also my mom explicitly said shed have less of an issue if i was mtf lol

>>40507765
your mom wanted to have a daughter that bad kek
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