I feel like taking hrt again only to give myself reverse dysphoria, which will cement the fact that I am just a cis man with rogd. Opinions?

>>40497071 (OP)
my opinion is that bait OPs ending with
>Thoughts?
>Opinion?
etc should be instaban

also yer a fuckin tranny arry

>>40497087
Didn't intend to formulate this as bait, I'm just stupid. But you are right about posts that end in "Thoughts?" & "Opinions?".
Sorry not sorry for making this thread
>also yer a fuckin tranny arry
I don't believe this. I'm just a depressed guy with rogd

>>40497136
rogd isn't real YOU FUCKING MORON

>>40497164
Then how would you explain the fact that I only started to have tranny thoughts after I was in my 20s already?
There was no repressed dysphoria as a child. I actually loved being a guy.

>>40497200
you're not joking, are you?
https://www.avitale.com/essays-details/?name=the-gender-variant-phenomenon--a-developmental-review-5

>>40497216
I am not joking at all. I'm completely serious when I say that I loved being a guy.
I don't even what exactly triggered my rogd (I know it's not real, but it's the only thing that properly describes what happened to me)
I'm not even agp in any ways. Just a cis guy that obsessed with the mere concept of transitioning to the point where I feel bad about being a cis guy

>>40497251
ok tranny

>>40497261
You don't suddenly "become" trans in your 20s. There must have been some underlying gender dysphoria, which was simply repressed subconsciously. I had none of that.

>>40497071 (OP)
do it. DO IT. I need you to do it. please do it.

>>40497388
I don't actually want reverse dysphoria, but it feels like that will be the only way I'll prove to myself that I'm just cis and not actually repressing anything

>>40497385
prove that

>>40497437
No matter what I'll say, you'll just retort with "ok tranny", won't you?

>>40497460
not if you can prove your absurd claim, tranny

>>40497434
yes exactly. who cares about a bit of reverse dysphoria anyways? adds spice to the game.

>>40497483
I like being a man in each and every way besides of the implication that being a cis man means I shouldn't transition.
I don't even want to transition, but I feel like it's something I'd be giving up on if I were to continue being a man.

>>40497521
no proof? double standards for yourself vs everyone else? ok, that's nice, tranny

>>40497527
What would even count as proof to you? I've literally mentioned that I like being a guy, and don't want to transition

>>40497547
>I only started to have tranny thoughts after I was in my 20s already
you're describing your gender dysphoria and how you're struggling with accepting it and want to transition
you all sound the same
shut up and take your HRT, retard

>>40497516
This will give me the ability to empathize with actual trannies better than a regular cis person ig

>>40497570
yeah go into the tranny cult just avoid transbian discords if u like men... it's, an okay passtime

>>40497554
I'm not even distressed because of my gendered characteristics, only ever distressed because that would mean I'm cis.
And if I were genuinely dysphoric, why would I struggle with accepting it. A suicidal person doesn't have any issue with accepting their suicidal ideation.

>>40497613
ok tranny, enjoy your tranny HRT, tranny

>>40497646
Can you at least give me solid good reason as to why I am a tranny, if you are so convinced of the fact?
At least some other reason besides saying that I just sound like every other tranny and pointing to john50

>>40497707
why do you want to take HRT?

>>40497715
I don't. That's the thing. But my mind always gravitates back to the idea of taking it no matter what I do. It feels like and urge.
I once had hope of feeling better on it, but I very much didn't, which was the reason I stopped, but that didn't make my fixation on taking hrt go away. It's still pestering me daily over half a year later

>>40497797
LOL that's literally you coping with your gender dysphoria, dumbass
you literally all sound the fucking same it's like a script

>>40497797
i get it. i was there as well. hrt didn't fix much for me. i just dissociate and keep ramming the needle into my thing - because what else is there to do?

>>40497811
>feel good as a man
>never had dysphoria
>don't want to transition
>tried hrt once and felt reverse dysphoria already

>only weirdly fixated on the thought of taking hrt
>"that's literally you coping with your gender dysphoria, dumbass"

are you for real?

>>40497872
>weirdly fixated on the thought of taking hrt
tranny

>>40497870
Yeah, that's kinda how I feel as well. Trying hrt was pointless. Don't even know why I ever thought it was a good idea.
Life is only composed of distractions and dreaming of more is foolish

>>40497878
You deliberately ignore everything else I say, just because I have a weird hang-up with hrt. What is your endgame even?

>>40497921
lmao I have no endgame I'm just telling you that you're a tranny, you stupid fucking tranny

>>40497929
Ever considered there might be some other underlying reason to my issue?

>>40497952
sure, what do you think it could be?
ROGD?
TOCD?
MEF?
AGP?
Psychosis?

go ahead and prove it's any of those and that your innate desire to take physically feminizing exogenous hormones isn't because of your run of the mill gender dysphoria (with the same pattern of denial and acceptance repeated for decades on the internet)

>>40497071 (OP)
i do this every year or two like clockwork now

>constant thoughts of "what if im trans, i dont want to be a man
>take hrt
>get disturbed by the sudden zero libido and growing tits
>cope for a while then detrans
>after a few months start freaking out over masculinization and repeat the cycle

i know its over but i have to keep deluding myself because otherwise i have nothing, no identity and no hope.

it took me some years of lurking agpgen and repgen and seeing this same thing continue to play out before I decided I couldn't do that to myself anymore, twisting myself up with these mental gymnastics and irrational circular thinking just to bury my head in the sand

take your HRT, retard

>>40497975
>ROGD
I know it's not real, but it best describes what happened to me
>TOCD
Unlikely, but not impossible. It mostly matches, only that my anxiety is focused on being cis rather than trans. I don't meet the diagnostic criteria for ocd though
>MEF
>AGP
nope to both. I am an emotionless husk, and I never do anything with the purpose of enjoyment. Nothing about being a woman is a source of arousal to me.
Never even crossdressed nor have any desires to, because I know that seeing just how horrible women's clothes fit on my body would ruin my day. Women's clothes suck in so many ways either way
>Psychosis
Have nothing that would actually induce psychosis in the clinical sense, but it does kinda feel like it. This would be a very long psychosis though, since it's almost been a year by now ever since this started

>innate desire to take physically feminizing exogenous hormones
This desire isn't innate. It feels imposed on me, but not in the form of something I actually want, almost like a duress

>>40498167
>This desire isn't innate. It feels imposed on me, but not in the form of something I actually want, almost like a duress
so... gender dysphoria

>>40497989
You sound like a genuine repper as opposed to me

>>40498002
Yeah, yeah. Can't wait to take hrt and wake up in a cold sweat every day because I am changing my body in ways that could've been completely avoided, if I wouldn't have injected this stuff in me

>>40498188
Ok, let's say I am in fact dysphoric. Why did every change from hrt only make me feel worse?

>>40498227
>why did accepting a terrifying and inconvenient thing about myself make me anxious
tranny

>>40498243
What about simply not liking the effects of e? I didn't even start it for it's physical effects, but because I was meme'd into it by people talking about how amazing they felt on hrt.
Not saying they didn't feel better on it, but I was stupid enough to think I would as well.
I was literally seeking a panacea to an issue that never existed

>>40498536
>an issue that never existed
then what did you make this thread for? tranny

>>40497797
If you could snap your fingers and become a cis woman of the same age, beauty, weight, and personality as you (think realistically) would you do that?

>>40497071 (OP)
It sounds like you are a cis man with fairly severe OCD

>>40498889
How can you only have OCD on just gender?

>>40498188
>>40497878
>>40497811
thats genius, why dont doctors take your advice

>why are you taking heroin
>i just feel like i have to, i dont know why
>you must be suffering from chronic pain, heres some oxys

>>40499170
Idk but i think its true. Ppl have ocd on being gay or their partners being gay. Its just a fixation. If you experienced reverse gender dysphoria that is essentially the greatest confirmation you can get that you are not actually transgender. You do not truly desire the secondary sex characteristics of females and they make you uncomfortable so transitioning would not be indicated for you

>>40498655
I am in a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation, where both remaining a cis man and transitioning feel like the wrong choice, and it's tearing me apart.

>>40498863
When all of this started, my answer consistently was that I would snap my fingers rather than remain a cis man, but I don't feel like this anymore. The mere concept of being a woman slowly degraded from something comforting to something horrifying with each passing day

>>40498889
This feels like a considerably worse outcome than just being trans ngl. I've read a lot about ocd, and it sounds genuinely horrible

>>40499170
This is one of the main reasons why I'm excluding the possibility of this all just being ocd. I don't obsess, nor have any compulsion at all otherwise. I simply don't fit the diagnostic criteria of ocd at all, expect when it come to worrying about gender bs

>>40499280
The image is horrifying, since I am on the track to becoming the person depicted in it right now.

>>40497071 (OP)
Do it. Take T. Get big. -/fit/

>>40499817
I just don't understand this. Everything points towards me just having some weird case of tocd, but thinking I have tocd is exponentially more distressing than thinking I'm a tranny

>>40499891
Spent my teen years lurking there and working out at home. I'd rather kill myself than going on T and getting big

>>40498889
Tocd does fit perfectly the more I think about it. I wouldn't be surprised if my "dysphoria" was also just a compulsion.
I am definitely not dysphoric in the regular way, but much rather just very distressed by my lack of distress towards anything that would make a regular trans person dysphoric