One of two things is possible.

Transgender is what you are, regardless of how you identify and what you believe.
>Brain scans detect actual physical differences between cis and trans brains.
>Pre-HRT

Meaning, that Transgender individuals really are physically, and perhaps genetically, different, but very similar to typical LGB people.

Beyond the physical differences between LGBT & Cis heteronormative society,
A Transgender naturally deviates from the norm in personality characteristics.

For some reason, about .5 to 1% of people, varying by area and circumstance, ARE NOT naturally inclined to be the gender and sex assigned at birth.

The experience of a transgender is well documented; there is literally more evidence that Trans people aren't just mentally ill than there is proof that Christ even existed at all.

>.5% of your population is A LOT of people.

Please don't betray the trans community for short term political gains.

>>40572640 (OP)
>The LGB is going to ditch the T?
Yeah, no they aren't.
Only fringe lesbians are ditching the T.

On the other hand, if Transgenders are just delusional, then we're just super abused LBG people who just have too much trauma associated with gender because of violent discrimination and sexual abuse.

Anons, one of these two takes is correct.
>There is no in between.

>>40572653
I hope so.
>Unfortunately, out of all of the counties, provinces, states, and what not around the globe, many will choose discrimination.

>>40572640 (OP)
Transgender is a fetish that's it
Why where transgenders included in the LGB community to begin with ?
Makes no sense for transgender to be in LGB.
Castrated
Dressed like opposite sex
Nothing to do with LGB,

3rd possibility: transsexuality is a single-sex neurological disorder, and the inability to reconcile that with sex equality is the Great Filter

>>40572954
Your card you played, was the last card.
Two genders
Bull shit, shit show, funding and lies are done.
Your a fetish, that is that

>>40572932
"Homosexuality" is a misogyny/misandry fetish

>>40572954
What happened to all the transgender activists ?
They seem to be mentally ill, talking crazy, that the government made anti transgender laws.
Your a fetish not a gender
Cult of perverted people

>>40573011
Transgender is a cult
Castrated
Dess in opposite clothes
Drugs
Plastic surgery
Fetish perverted cult
Violent cult

>>40573040
dumb fucking jeet can't even speak english properly, imagine my shock. trannies are the superior race.

>>40573054
Panhandler transgender
Fetish perverted cult
Transgender is a fetish

>>40573083
SAAR TRANSGENDER IS A FETISH SAAR go play in cow shit you disgusting brown

>>40573054
>Race
You mean fetish
Your pronoun is pervert

>>40573098
Pervert is your pronoun
So why do you think you should be in the LGB community ?

>>40572932
>>40572997
>>40573018
My headcannon for these people I'd that their moms daw their porn history and now they feel immense guilt and a need to do damage control by removing the people who supplied content for their perversions.

smug anime girl posters never fail to make me physically cringe

>>40573103
>>40573083

We're supposed to be getting a science lecture from some primitive who can't even speak english? Fuckin christ dude. Develop two-hundred years of industrial society and get back to us eh jeet?

>>40573120
We are talking about adults
Ok
To many perverted transgender doing violent acts.
Good to see them gone.

>>40573142
Fetish
Sorry about your gender

>>40572932
What country are you from and how do you feel about it?

Thought it was a man trying to rob the place

>>40573193
I think Americans are going in the right direction about transgender laws.
Transgender have nothing to do with the LGB ,
Like most Americans think, transgender is a fetish.

>>40572653
Cisgays are less supportive of trans people than lesbians are btw.
>>40572932
>>40572997
>>40573011
>>40573040
Balkan teenager typing style or just an Indian. I'm 90% sure i've seen you about before and I'm 99% sure you're a repper trying to justify not transitioning. You're just coming here subconsciously hoping someone tells you it's okay to actually transition while acting like a shitheel.

>>40572640 (OP)
>>Brain scans detect actual physical differences between cis and trans brains.
Reminder that they are literally just seeing homosexuality. Gynephilic pre-hormone MtFs are typical men in brain scans.

>>40573223
Well anon
You seem to be dealing with a large number of people who think the same as I do.
Again your pronoun is pervert
Transgender has nothing to do with LGB.
Nothing
Transgenders can't stay on the subject without talking about transgender bullshit.
.

>>40573247
Womp womp

>>40573261
Can anyone answer this ?
What does transgenders have to do with LGB ?
Nothing
So why are they included ?

Transgenders went total perverted in front of children.
I don't know any people that want to be a part of that shit

>>40573278
They aren't anymore anon. You can transition and it's not gay anymore. Yaaaaayyy you can wear althea frilly skirt in a straight way cuz u won't be LGBT ^0^ I'm so happy for you

>>40573120
Woh, you're so right!
>You have my respect, stranger.

>>40573234
>Gynephilic pre-hormone MtFs are typical men in brain scans.
We should move to /sci/ and start a new post about this specific topic.

Roughly 50% of transgenders are frauds.

>>40573247
You really think you aren't that obvious? idk maybe I'm dealing with a whole group of ESLs, but that seems unlikely compared to it just being you. You're the one who made a whole thread about us buddy.
>>40573278
>What does transgenders have to do with LGB ?
Every single trans person presents in a non-cisnormative way with regards to sexuality, even straight tranners challenge cisnormativity by suggesting a straight relationship can occur between two people born the same sex. This inherently aligns the acceptance of straight trans people with the acceptance of LGB people, hence why it includes all trans people, not just trans people who happen to be LGB.
Also, just afaik most trans people are some form of LGB.
LGBT etc groupings and solidarity are also not limited to just expressions of non heterosexuality but to wider non-conventional relationships (read: kink), even if we don't include them in the acronym, because the ostracism of any form of consenting relationship is inherently against the kind of freedoms required for LGB people to exist as equal citizens.
The attempts at dividing our (that is LGBT etc peoples) causes are just lazy attempts to make solidarity harder and sow dissent as a means to pursue the suppression of all of us.

>>40573359
I mean I don't think they are frauds. I think trannies are just people who transition. It doesn't matter why they transition. But gynephilic trannies are not female brained. You didn't need a brain scan to tell you that either.

>>40573480
Transgenderism is who you are, it's not a choice. It's how you were born.

People may choose to live trans, but they're not normally happy like that if they're inauthentic.

Their rates of detransition and suicide should be much higher.

>>40573223
>Cisgays are less supportive of trans people than lesbians are btw.
Maybe in general.
TERF dykes are so violently hateful towards trans people that they completely drown out cisgays, however.

>>40573511
I just don't think there are that many TERF dykes desu. Like they're definitely more vocal online but a lot of like LGB Alliance etc types are straight women / men larping.

>>40573496
But that's just nonsense. People choose to transition and they choose it for different reasons. If we lived in a time where it wasn't possible they would have different lives, maybe as cross dressers or very gay men. Transitioning is what you do, not some kind of innate thing you are and always would be. Anything else is mental gymnastics.

>>40573011
when the comphet kick in

>>40573530
>I just don't think there are that many TERF dykes desu.
There aren't that many, but god are they ever fucking loud and annoying.
Most men just call us degenerates instead of trying to write some elaborate sob story about how we are trying to rape them.

>>40573532
Or they would have just been crippled with worsening gender dysphoria, and you never would have met them.

Gender affirming care is lifesaving care.
>Is it not?

If you have to get gender affirming care to save your life, or make your life worth living, then how is that a choice at all?

Do diabetics choose to live the diabetes lifestyle?

>>40573691
Nobody in history has ever died of not cutting their dick off anon

Why don't you read some actual history and see what life was like for transvestites and cross dressers back in the day?

Oh and note the subtitle

>>40573363
Castrated fag in a dress ?
Your a fetish not LGB.
Your talking but, everyone is saying your a man with a fetish, mentally ill man.
You maybe gay or bi, but that ends there, the transgender part is a fetish, like scat, diaper, beastiality, BDSM, and doesn't belong in LGB .

>>40572640 (OP)
I kinda see the argument that sexuality and gender identity are different but it just seems like an attack on trans people considering the current times.

>>40573530
As a cisbian I have met a bunch of TERFs and they almost always exist based on the idea that trans women WILL try to have sex with them. And they are very against dick. Same goes for cisgays who hate pussy. It takes actually seeing trans people to realize they aren’t desperately trying to fuck gays and lesbians and some are exclusively t4t for that reason. Both exists because lousy people on Twitter try to push that not having sex with a trans person is a crime and transphobic, and if they are already considered transphobic they don’t mind going deeper down the rabbit hole

There is more people into BDSM fetishes then transgender women.
Do you see BDSM people walking in public on a daily basis ?

>>40572640 (OP)
>>40572658
i came to the same dichotomous conclusion on my own too

>>40572653
fringe lesbians who still think that men are not women, apparently,

>>40572640 (OP)
>My brain scan shows that I'm a loli
Remove the T. Trannies are men

>>40573548
this

>>40573363
>I'm dealing with a whole group of ESLs
this thread is full of ESLs for some reason
friday night in europe and summerfags i guess

>>40573706
The book you reference touches on topics of suicide and depression as a result of gender dysphoria. Further, it covers male and female individuals who did publicly transition, and found relief from the symptoms of gender dysphoria by doing so. The experiences it covers do not differ significantly from modern descriptions of gender dysphoria.
Of course, if you'd read the book instead of assuming it would confirm your narrative—that transgenders would simply be content to exist as crossdressers if that was their only option—you'd have been aware of that.
Instead you made a fool of yourself.

Farting on transvlenders until they disppear

>>40573724.
I'm a bisexual, like there's no way you can actually slice this to exclude me because again, still a bisexual.
You, on the other hand, are some straightoid larping. Other than that, you're just repeating yourself and not engaging with what was actually said.
>>40573742
I've only really met straight TERFs, which ig is just an experience gap. But yeah, I pretty much agree. Although I think most unironic "it's transphobic not to want to fuck me" 's are ragebait accounts.
>>40573842
Forgot it's a Friday :P
>>40573753
You don't see (visible) trans women on a daily basis either. Unless you happen to work with one of us. Because a lot of us (be that early transition manmoders or passoids) are not visibly trans. No one has so far clocked that I'm trans (because man mode while I get laser done, get my career lined up, etc) the most i've got is a lady who thought I was like 17-18 when I'm 24 and a comment from an Army nurse doing my physical that I should check my chest for lumps (because boob growth).
I've not run into another trans person (that I've clocked) in person in ~6 months.
And not that it matters, but you will see people into BDSM or BDSM aligned stuff all the time. One of the guys at my work regularly talks about wanting to engage in BDSM type stuff.
As for the range of people attracted to trans women? No idea how broad it is, but my dating pool is plenty big enough for me personally. If anything I get more attention when I'm using fem-presenting profiles (even as non-passing) than masc-presenting profiles.

>>40572658
obviously there is an in-between, people are trans for a large variety of reasons not any one or two

I wouldn't mind tranners if they didn't make everything about being trans desu.

>>40576798
i literally haven't told anyone i know irl in 6 years and am uncomfortable whenever the topic comes up

>>40576837
its a classic cope
wouldnt mind gays if they werent gay outside the bedroom
wouldnt mind women if they never left the kitchen
wouldnt mind kids if they never spoke unless spoken to
and so on

>>40572932
of course you think that, you probably see the most trannies in your pornography

being transgender is inherently homophobic

>>40578775
You're actually retarded

>>40578775
binary trans yes
but nonbinary trans (including gender non conforming [butch lesbians, femboy gays] under "trans" umbrella as opposed to doll lesbians and bear gays) actually signal homosexuality. a
it's binary trans that erases gender non conformity . and reinforces gender roles