>be me
>25yo luckshit passoid mtf
>out at the club with gf and a bunch of friends
>get super drunk, vibing hard, dancing like a maniac
>friend says I'm "literally eyecandy" tonight
>confidence.exe launches
>hit the dance floor solo
>dancing with so many cute and sexy girls
>they’re complimenting me left and right
>"you’re so pretty" "omg your vibe is amazing" "i love your outfit"
>mfw
>gf watching me get down and dirty
>night goes on, I keep dancing, keep getting hyped
>touching and grinding with more girls in one night than my entire life
>gf practically begging me to kiss one of them
>"babe c’mon just kiss her she’s into you"
>apparently half of them were trying to make a move
>one girl was literally holding my neck while looking into my soul with fuck me eyes
>tfw too autistic to pick up any of it and eye contact scary
>just kept dancing like a sexy drunk retard until night is over
>go home a drunk hot mess without kissing a single girl
how do i do it? i feel like i still subconsciously have "male guilt" even though ive been living as a girl full time for almost 2 years. my gf is really the only cis girl im 100% not afraid of

>>40592591 (OP)
>25yo luckshit passoid mtf
>out at the club with gf
There's your problem. Trans women belong to cis men only.

>popular attractive normie goes out and does popular attractive normie things
>but I still had a moment of doubt!
Congrats, it means you're not a full blown raging psychopath yet. Be careful because you're almost there.

>>40592857
a man literally tried dragging my drunk ass away until my friend had to step in
>>40592867
why r u so bitter im literally too autistic to even hold down a job

>>40593019
Probably because I'm not a popular attractive normie let alone a woman

>>40592591 (OP)
I honestly prefer to just let my consent be violated a bit if it gets me past that barrier so long as the man/woman isn't a total animal, I think we've got too puritanical about that stuff sometimes I just want someone to dare to take me so long as I'm not gonna be injured bad

>>40593161
so ur saying i should be more proactive?
idk even pre transition ive always kinda let these kinds of interactions just happen to me
im just extremely dense in hindsight

>>40593019
>too autistic
>went to the club

>>40593350
im literally a tranny diagnosed with audhd

>>40592591 (OP)
"male guilt" is just a shit test cis women put men through to weed out those who don't have the dark triad genes to be good leaders and producers
they want rapey take charge type chads so if they foster a narrative of not wanting that then the only ones who will take it to heart are low quality betas who think women's opinions are valuable
you have failed the social filter as both genders and will not be deemed fit to pass on your genes by the gatekeepers of humanity
the only way out is taking this knowledge at face value and letting your inner morality find enough issue with it that you genuinely start hating women and stop valuing them, giving you the rapey tribal leader vibes they actually fawn over

>>40592591 (OP)
Normies get the fuck out.

>>40594010
why is this board full of incels i just dont wanna be a retard when girls try to kiss me

>>40592591 (OP)
i despise polyfags so much

>>40594064
You have literally everything you could ever want, why are you coming to the depressed loser board for MORE validation?

>>40594064
you call me the incel for saying this truth despite you being the one who couldn't get any because of a mental barrier calling yourself rapey when that is quite literally what those women wanted you to be that night and has been confirmed from multiple sources in your own story

>>40594085
holy projection its like you didnt even read my post
>>40594077
cus i cant ask this type of question anywhere else and this board is literally where i get 99% of my online social interaction

>>friend says I'm "literally eyecandy" tonight
>>"you’re so pretty" "omg your vibe is amazing" "i love your outfit"
>>gf practically begging me to kiss one of them
>>"babe c’mon just kiss her she’s into you"
>>apparently half of them were trying to make a move
>>one girl was literally holding my neck while looking into my soul with fuck me eyes
all of the women were fawning over you and wanted you to be rapey enough to fuck them up
but you couldn't because in your own words
>i feel like i still subconsciously have "male guilt"

your post was read in full before responding and you're just coping that the information presented by me is correct because you don't like what it implies about you and other women
cry about it all you want because your own life experience has already proven my point and you only have yourself to make suffer for ignoring it

>>40594150
meant for >>40594114

>>40592591 (OP)
>25yo luckshit passoid mtf
>out at the club with gf and a bunch of friends

im so goddamn jealous of this story why was i born male

>>40592857
we do not

>>40592591 (OP)
you already have a gf why are you at the club trying to kiss girls?

>>40594220
her gf only wants what other women want, like all women, and wants to see op be wanted to feel safe in her decision to date them

>>40594220
>>40594253
girls just kiss each other when they're drunk n i just dont wanna be oblivious when they try to do it to me its not that deep
theres no romantic attraction or anything im not CHASING to kiss girls or whatever the incest incel is implying its so fucking weird

>>40592591 (OP)
>"babe c’mon just kiss her she’s into you"
this is the reason why I despise cis women

>>40594301
>theres no romantic attraction or anything im not CHASING to kiss girls
that's what you thought was implied? you're worse than you seemed at first, oh well the filter system is working as intended and your stupidity won't be passed down so you'll take care of yourself eventually
goodbye for now, don't forget to come back for support when your gf leaves you or you end up in a metoo scandal, whichever path you decide to take

>>40594354
>don't forget to come back for support when your gf leaves you
ok retard we literally would kill ourselves without each other but whatever u say
>oh well the filter system is working as intended and your stupidity won't be passed down so you'll take care of yourself eventually
i dont fucking care cause im not some rapey incel who thinks the only worth an individual has is how far his genes has spread im bi ive had boyfriends i dont wanna top

>>40592591 (OP)
Any mention of luckshit or passoid should be doubted. I want yall to think about it. how often is that term thrown around here, but when people post bodies 9/10 times it’s mid and 1/10 times it’s okay. It’s never the luckshit passoid gigaubercute nonsense they say.

>>40595002
i only call myself that because of people on this board putting the label on me when ive posted in passgen before
once you reach a certain level of passing ppl here just get detached and assume your problems magically go away and assume your life is all sunshine n rainbows
most of the bdd passoid tripfags know they pass they just play up the bdd cus they know ppl here will demonise them otherwise

>>40595156
because your problems DO vanish once you're a luckshit passoid
comparing passoid problems to neverpasser problems is like comparing a scraped kneww from falling off your tricycle to a high speed crash from a motorcycle that shredded half of your skin off

>>40595480
do you think i magically passed with my first dose of hrt? i went through the same shit you did the same struggles the same brainworms
i fucking hate you miserable crabs i still see the same troon caricature when i look in the mirror i still see my pronounced brow ridge i still see my wide shoulders i still see my narrow hips i still my jutting adams apple i fucking hate you hate you hate you just because i decided to something about it instead of fucking wallowing in my own misery i genuinely hope you kill yourself

>>40595156
>label on me when ive posted in passgen before
I've seen a fat cow posted on there and people thirsting over it. But I'll bite. post an unsee or smth, i am very curious now to see if you are deluded or telling the truth.

>detached and assume your problems magically go away
Nigga im a very attractive guy with a huge cock. i still got problems.

>tripfags
I hate trips. its not the trips itself, its the people who use trips, they're always so insufferable and gunk up all the threads they're in. they ruin it every time and i dont even use many threads now cuz tripfags just flock to it like bugs to shit.

>>40595686
i posted in wouldgen >>40589827

>>40595728
makeup, filters and angles, yep you are pretty female brained lmao.

its hard to tell, even my mid ass sisters can look like models with good makeup and angles. But credit where credit is due, you do look like you'd be neat even without all that filters and makeup. your problems are cuz u are a bottom dating a bottom. there needs to be someone who's assertive and dominant in the relationship that the other person can pick up on. and i dont just mean a bit dominant in bed or saying some shit like "good girl". i mean someone who's personality and demeanor is assertive. so you'll prolly never get rid of those issues in your head hahaha

>>40595675
>>40595728
absolutely fucking delusional and bdd

>>40595834
passoid =/= 10/10 female model it just means i pass
but here's a selfie without makeup
>there needs to be someone who's assertive and dominant in the relationship that the other person can pick up on
why is every man's solution to everything on this board boyremoval

>>40596070
>solution to everything on this board boyremoval
because you refuse to offer an alternative solution

>>40596070
who tf said anything about boyremoval? it's about confidence. or... you know what fair point. i think most solutions might be a bit too straightforward. it's easier for me to conceptualize it since im studying psych, i can see the issues u face pretty clearly. and yeah with this photo you look more like a femininized dude / tomboy girl.

Let me ask this a bit more clearly because i dont want you to think im coming off as combative or contrarian; youre sad because you cant kiss hot girls even though they make the first move on you? or is it more than that.

>>40596110
but like im asking for the solutions!!
>>40596119
ok yk what maybe when i wrote the op i wasnt being descriptive enough
i just see the act of girls kissing each other while drunk as a part of the feminine experience
i dont mind at all if i go back home without kissing a girl, i have my gf for that
i just thought "oh my gf really wanted me to experience this n ig it'd be nice to say i did it" or even just to not feel bad for accidentally turning down girls
when i made the thread ig i was expecting advice more along the lines of "oh just pay attention to where they hold u" or like "if they say these things its a sure sign that u can go for it" like literally actually picking up the signals i keep missing

>>40596288
>i just see the act of girls kissing each other while drunk as a part of the feminine experience
LOL, sure. if you view it as a part of the feminine experience but you arent able to indulge in it, it kind of goes back to what I said; you need guidance. your GF isnt assertive enough to actually make you do it. you even said that she tried convincing you to do it, but you didnt do it regardless. so even if you say she's the top and youre the bottom, on a subconscious level you dont really believe that. you dont have to have faith in my words, just recall the whole scenario and look at it from the lens i just gave u.

>like literally actually picking up the signals i keep missing
well. you didnt miss anything. because you are here talking about it. if you did miss the signals, there wouldnt be a thread to make because you wouldnt have thought about them. you see how its a bit contradictory?

>>40596513
>even if you say she's the top and youre the bottom, on a subconscious level you dont really believe that
u were right the first time, we're both bottoms
do you really need guidance for this sort of thing anyway? i dont see how someone dominant would help
>if you did miss the signals, there wouldnt be a thread to make because you wouldnt have thought about them
hindsight is 20/20, i only figured it out cus my gf told me after the fact
but i dont pick anything up in the moment

>>40596070

Perhaps you should reproduce a lot so that we all will have an increased chance to incarnate into bloodlines like yours.

>>40596601
>but i dont pick anything up in the moment
uh. hello? your GF literally said the other girl wants to kiss you. and yet you still didnt do it. whether intentionally or subconsciously, you still avoided it.

>u were right the first time, we're both bottoms
I figured.

>do you really need guidance for this sort of thing anyway?
well instead of me saying Yes or No, ill tell you something. you were drunk. peoples inhibitions are severely lowered when they are drunk. and even in THAT state you still didnt do it. she coudlve pushed ur head and that other girls head together and you wouldnt have kissed. Knowing that, let me ask you this. in that situation, was there anything your gf coudlve said or done that woudlve made you kiss that girl? I think there isnt anything. because, as i said before, there's something lacking. something ur gf couldnt give you.

>>40596659
>penetrative sex with women
no thank you
>>40596660
>your GF literally said the other girl wants to kiss you
yeah, after the fact
>was there anything your gf coudlve said or done that woudlve made you kiss that girl?
idk it isnt really about her
maybe if she gave me a bet or something
>there's something lacking. something your gf couldnt give u
like what?