have MtFs been more influential on trans culture than FtMs?

>>40606831 (OP)
No. A lot of trans discourse was from FtMs on Tumblr and then TikTok. Truscum vs Tucute, what counts as gender dysphoria, if FtM lesbians are valid, that kind or thing.

>>40606867
>mtfs
>make advancements in science and math, allow humans to go to space
>ftms
>make up gender labels online
Sounds about right.

>>40606901
Oh stop. I assumed OP was talking about online culture due to the weird meme.
Just look at Michael Dillon. He was a physician and served in the Navy and wqs a baronet.

>>40606831 (OP)
obviously
mtf twitter culture is still dominant

>>40606831 (OP)
>hsts
>tourist
we were the majority when this place opened you little shit

>>40606831 (OP)
>hsts
>tourist
Omg that's me

>>40606867
those weren't actually FtMs and 90% have detransed already if they even bothered to transition.

>>40607380
No you weren't

>>40607380
correct

>>40606901
mtfs went to space?

>>40606831 (OP)
mtfs prior to 2020 ftms after. even on this fucking board now people are talking about "transfemme" and "transmasc"

>>40606867
Influential in a entirely negative, dumbcunt female way. The cuntification of ftms needs to be studied. Ftms could be cool if they acted like men instead of cunts. Too bad the vast majority are just cunts on t.

>>40607755
Trans women are men really.

>>40607694
mtfs take up a lot of space because of male socialization. or at least i do

>>40607829
Wrong.

>>40607938
True.

>>40606901
>assuming ftm aren't also packed in STEM and art fields

>>40607987
And they are making terrible soulless cunt art

>>40606831 (OP)
nobody heard of ftms until 10 years ago meanwhile mtfs have been a spectre haunting society for thousands of years

>>40608005
>this group sucks at making art
You just have bad taste

>>40608082
>mtfs have been a spectre haunting society for thousands of years
based

>>40607987
hella based

>>40608082
There were a lot of ftms in history

>>40606831 (OP)
are ftms deranged? ive not seen much deramgement from ftms on this board

>>40608082
You sound like those chuds who think being transgender is something leftists invented in 2016 because that's when they first heard of them

>>40606831 (OP)
I hate being a chaser

>>40610164
it's insanely easy to falsify information now with ai. most 'historical examples of trannyism' is created this way.

>>40610205
I mean just look at Michael Dillon. First trans man to get a phalloplasty and he was born in 1915.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Dillon
AI misinformation is only a problem if you get your misinfo from unsourced Instagram graphics and TikTok videos. Not hard to do actual historical research.

>>40610205
Anon where are you running into AI tranny history content? Post links? The only AI videos I get are impossible animal fight matchups.

>>40610240
can you prove it hasn't been falsified? the average person had never heard of trannies outside of jokes until 20 years ago. isn't it in the establishments best interest to make it look like they've always been around as a #valid identity
>>40610262
insta, tiktok, youtube shorts, basically any social media you cam find all sorts of misinfo

>>40610299
With this sort of epistemology, I'm not sure I could convince you of anything without physically taking you to his grave and looking at old paper documents together with you. Can you prove that the Big Bang didn't happen last Tuesday?
Photoshop has always existed. Liars have always existed. AI just makes it easier.
We even have old writings from Antiquity era about basically trans women being evil. Or wait, how do we know those societies were even real? Wasn't Rome made up by AI misinformation? And the bible written in the 1950s?

>>40610299
>insta, tiktok, youtube shorts, basically any social media you cam find all sorts of misinfo
I wanted a link to a fake trans history video I don't even know how to look for something like that... But really all of this is irrelevant because we could just list wikipedia pages of famous poons.

>>40608005
No one makes art about pathetic men getting boypregnant better than ftms, respect our fucking troops.