Why are trans women prejudiced against cis straight men who are kissless dateless handholdless virgins? It's not fair.

>>40610001 (OP)
Either you're a repper or will leave her the second a cis girl shows you attention. Transbians love the former

>>40610001 (OP)
If you are a kissless virgin as an adult there is probably something seriously wrong with you

>>40610001 (OP)
Hypergamy is real. Next thread.

>>40610016
I am not a repper, and you don't have to worry about the latter, because no girl (cis or otherwise) has ever shown interest in me in my entire life.

>>40610030
No woman ever expressed romantic interest in me. That's simply it. I didn't do anything wrong. I just didn't get lucky.

>>40610039
Probably ugly, stinky or give off a creepy vibe. Any man can be at least a 7 with proper effort

>>40610033
Trannies don't get to engage in hypergamy though
that's for real women

>>40610039
Chad drinks and cheats and gropes and rapes and gets laid. But you should probably consider going to the gym and getting a high paying job before you're allowed to feel sad about not getting laid, incel.

I converted my bf from khhv to a sex haver >:3

Problem?

>>40610049
>Probably ugly, stinky or give off a creepy vibe.
None of those.

I'm literally just a normal guy who, for some unknown reason, no woman has ever viewed as potential romantic partner.

I've seen guys much worse than me get GFs. Fat guys, short guys, smelly guys, guys with fucked-up faces... and so on.

One of my best friends at university was severely chubby, balding, had rotting teeth, glasses, and a strange face, and on top of that he had profound depression and used to have regular mental breakdowns where he would scream, break shit, and threaten to kill himself for no reason whatsoever. He still had a cute long-term GF, and had multiple GFs and other female partners before that too.

Female attraction is non-sensical, I'm convinced women just pick random men and say "I'm attracted to that one!" even when there is no reason for it at all.

>>40610089
Ooh you are just a pussy then. In my experience if you aren't stinky ugly or creepy then you must have zero confidence.

>>40610156
It doesn't have anything to do with confidence.

I've gone 29 years of my life without any woman having ever expressed any form of romantic interest in me. I have no opportunities. What exactly do you expect me to do here?

>>40610001 (OP)
Because they're still women. And women are evil.

>>40610424
Useless post.

>>40610181
You must not be able to see what makes you repulsive then, much like most incels

>>40610089
kinda true ngl.
my bf isn't my "type" or anything, we were just hanging out one day and started joking about "what if we had sex" and i was just like "yeah, i'd let him fuck me" and we've been seeing each other ever since. he even lets me do gay shit with his other gf. incel ideology is bs, you don't have to be 10/10, you can even get hypergamy just by having good hygiene and being funny

>>40610001 (OP)
I was a kissless, dateless, handholdless virgin before I started dating the trans girl I’m with so idk

>>40610531
I am not an incel. I am a kissless dateless handholdless virgin.

>>40610540
>incel ideology is bs, you don't have to be 10/10, you can even get hypergamy just by having good hygiene and being funny
I know. That doesn't make it any easier for me.

If the instructions for getting attention from women were just "be attractive", then things would be easy. Just improve your physical appearance and you win.

But women are more complex than that. I did everything I possibly could to make myself as attractive as I possibly could, and women still weren't ever interested in me. Meanwhile, male friends of mine who walked around in unwashed clothes wreaking of body odour 24/7 got cute girlfriends without putting any effort in.

It honestly makes me fucking sick. And I don't understand it.

>>40610001 (OP)
if u got a good job and a house i like u

>>40610565
HOW. HOW DID YOU DO IT.

>>40610590
oh yeah, getting spoiled is awesome. doesn't need to be a house either, just a clean apartment with some nice mood lighting and lots of couch pillows to snuggle, but poorfags can also be irresistible

>>40610626
i want a house

>>40610597
just be cute and funny ig, really doesn't have to be anything spectacular. the thing is that i most likely would not be into my bf in a vacuum, it was the very specific chemistry of our first few interactions that made me think about him that way. you cannot force attraction, it is an event, not a quality in a person. the spark is like a movie scene: just hiring good actors with a dogshit director and a boring script does not make for a good film

>>40610686
Where did you meet your bf?

>>40610001 (OP)
They use the same mate finding apparatus as cis women, often to their own detriment. Outsourcing to social mores, etc, friendgroups, to see if a man is broadly liked enough to be dateable.

The answer for cis men is ALWAYS to chad it up, physically or interpersonally.

>>40610181
if you don't talk to people or go outside you are fucked, sorry. doesn't even have to be irl, my bf was a discord friend that just happened to live really close

>>40610721
discord lmao. he was popular in my friend group so i knew be wasn't a fucking weirdo and he invited me to hang out with him bc he doesn't have a lot of irl friends and i lived close to him. ofc i didn't go alone bc that would be stupid but it was a really nice time and we just started flirting from there

>>40610734
>if you don't talk to people or go outside you are fucked, sorry.
I did that for many, many years, actually.

I would estimate between the ages of 16 to 25, I met literally 1000s of single women. Some became friends, some were just friendly acquaintances, others I simply talked to once and never again.

But the common thread was not a single one of them ever expressed any form of romantic attraction towards me.

What do you have to say to that?

Why am I the one and only man on Earth who can't get even one woman to kiss him or go on a date with him?

I can't even go on one single date. Other men call themselves "incels" and yet have been on countless first dates (they just claim they were "rejected" afterwards). Meanwhile I can't even find a woman who is willing to go on a first date with me. What is so horrifically wrong with me that women won't even consider me as a romantic option?

if you want op drop your discord and we can talk. I will let you know what you r fucking up on or pretend to like you for a week and you will be hit up girls and trying to cheat like 80% of my exs

>>40610771
So I need to be popular (i.e., extroverted and exceptionally attractive) and hope for a chance encounter on Discord with someone who happens to live nearby. Got it.

>>40610829
I cannot do that. I can't dox myself on 4chan.

>>40610841
oo its you again. Keep making the same threads monthly and don't do anything to change. I will tell you something. no one gives a fuck about you. From a ex "top" trip for like 1,2 years

>>40610867
What? You don't even know who I am. And you don't even give me any advice on how to "change".

>>40610583
You realize that incel means involuntarily celebrate right? You are quite literally an incel

>>40610883
No, I'm not an incel, because I don't in any way believe in incel ideology.

I adhere to the classic title of "kissless dateless virgin", this was what people like me called ourselves in the early 2010s before the term "incel" was popularized. Circa 2011-2013 /r9k/, "kissless virgin" was the predominant term.

>>40610892
You can be an incel without being an manlet that's angry at the world and full of hate.

>>40610915
I am an involuntarily celibate, but I am not "an incel". You get me?

>>40610874
I know you made this post like 3 times in the last 4 months. And how I'm i to do that in this thread? From what i see your very dumb and fight for dumb word battle with people who are trying to help(in a gay faggot 4chan way). Nothing will change by posting shit in this thread imo

>>40610967
I just want someone to tell me what the fuck I'm doing wrong.

How the fuck did my life end up like this? How did I become a 29 year old kissless dateless handholdless virgin?

I literally don't get it. Much less worthy men than me have got girlfriends without even trying.

>>40610978
if i drop my discord will you add me or not. I can't help in this thread

>>40610978
Post unsee so we can see if you are hideously deformed or not. If not ur a pussy and making these threads is pointless

>>40610997
I am absolutely terrified to add anyone on Discord from this god-forsaken website.

I appreciate your interest but I just don't know if I can do it. If I give my Discord, people can track my internet identity across the whole web and become aware of who I am. I just can't allow that to happen.

>>40611005
I am not ever ever ever posting face. I will not dox myself.

>>40610049
Or you're extremely loveshy.

I go out to a techno show by myself dressed up. I go home with at least half a dozen new instagram requests from gay dudes I met there. I didn't realize they were gay at first I thought people were just being friendly.

I'm still working my way up to talking to women tho

I found a bf that had been with 12 cis women before me.

>>40611180
And what about me?

I haven't been with any women before. Cis or trans or otherwise.

My lips haven't even graced another woman's lips in my entire life... I literally don't even know how to kiss a woman.

Why am I not worthy, huh? Why am I not an option?

I just want to know what I ever did wrong to end up like this.

>>40611198
I would have trained you but idk it seems like the only guys I matched with had experience.

>>40611220
So because I don't have any experience, what, I'm just out of luck?

How is that fair?

>>40611254
it's not fair, blame the algorithm

>>40611266
Go kill yourself, retard.

>>40610997
You never dropped your discord… Why? Do you think I’m repulsive?

>>40611198
Just know that if you reach 29 without kissing dating or having sex then something is seriously wrong with you. It's not everyone else, it's you. Thinking otherwise is incel brained

riddle me this: say there is "something wrong with me". So what? Some people have problems.

>>40611470
Ok, so what the fuck is it?

What the fuck did I do wrong exactly?

Because according to my book, I did everything right. I relentlessly improved myself. As a teenager i was fat, so I lost all that weight. I began dressing much better and became conscious of styles and trends.

When I got to university, I resolved to put myself out there as much as possible. I joined multiple clubs/societies. I accepted every single invite to a party or social event.

But still nothing happened for me. Not one woman ever expressed romantic interest in me. This is despite the fact I’ve known countless men who were shorter, fatter, and/or uglier than me and yet they still got GFs without even trying

What did I do wrong?

The modern world needs to learn to let people not be perfect.

>>40611551
Women can sense the incellish virginity seeping from you and no women wants to fuck a virgin. In other words you are probs a creep and don't know it

>>40611563
So what exactly am I supposed to do?

Much creepier men than me have got girlfriends despite putting literally 0 effort in.

What exactly is my fault? What is the specific reason why women find me repulsive? I don’t understand it.

>>40611590
Rope?

>>40611621
Shut up and go kill yourself. I’d strangle you if you were in front of me right now.

>>40611563
they should get over it.
People who are mean for no reason wake up one day and wonder why they're unhappy.

>>40611445
you said you didn't want it. Do you want to add me?

>>40611590
OP let me give you some advice. I am a chaser now but before that I slept with a lot of cis women, 60-70. I am pretty tall and handsome but not athletic or anything, and I’ve spend most of my life crushingly depressed, so that was never in my favor. I was not naturally charming and I had to build the skill slowly and deliberately.

You need to learn how to be charming. Learn “game,” if you will. You need to take a practical approach to teaching yourself the social skills you need in order to get women to see you as a fun person to be around. It’s impossible to make any conclusions about what your issues are without meeting you, so I’ll just drop some reading recommendation.

First read Ovid’s “Art of Love.” It is a beautiful poem from antiquity that gives advice to young men who are clueless with women. This is a timeless issue. You aren’t alone. This poem might help you feel a little better about having this problem.

Next read some pick-up artist stuff—something like the Mystery Method or some Neil Strauss. Does it seem cringe to you? You don’t have to actually go out and hit on random women, but the tips will be helpful…in a nutshell, be intriguing and not boring. I think these days some tiktokers film their cold approaches, that might be good to watch too. You just gotta embrace the cringe. You don’t have to become a horny misogynist, just take some tips on how to start a conversation and be engaging.

Another good book to read is “The Art of Seduction.” It takes a bit more of a literary approach to describing different ways to be charming. Some of it comes off as manipulative. But that’s a huge part of what being charming is…just be kind and don’t let your successes go to your head.

You need to study. Maybe cool it with mentioning the fact that you’re a khhv virgin. Trans women are even more suspicious than cis women are so I wager that the girl who rejected you figured you’re an axe murderer.

>>40611818
And one last piece of advice from the same anon who wrote this. If you ever find yourself thinking “why do women do x” or “why do women think x”….don’t look to other men to describe the issue for you. See what women have said. See what feminists say. See what antifeminists say. See what writers say. See what redditors say. Try and sympathize with women.

For women, their default romantic partner is 150% their size and more statistically likely to kill them than any other person. For women, their childhoods are completely different, what they are taught is completely different, their body is completely different. If you are ever thinking that women do things because they are merely silly, you fall into the same trap that a misandrist person does. It’s just that the misandry is not usually socially checked, whereas the misogyny is. But this is no boon to the misandrists, nor is it an injury to the misogynists. Because both of these tendencies are errors, and it only blinds you to the reality…male or female, we are all morally of equal weight. If the dice had fell differently with your birth, you too would be a woman. So don’t see women as space aliens who cannot be understood.

>>40611880
women can only see themselves from the inside, and are very bad and guarded at articulating what they feel, which is why people get so mad about how confusing they are.

>>40611889
This is precisely the kind of thinking you need to stop. You’re making sweeping generalizations. You cannot “other” them like this if you ever hope to understand them.

>>40611961
That's just correct though, and I don't even entirely blame them on the communication thing, because on some level they're clearly geared to avoid conflict.
My family is majority female. I've been around it.

>>40611818
terrible advice, ew

>>40612059
And yet I’ve been quite successful by doing all this.

>>40611656
no wonder nobody likes u lol..

>>40612010
So after denying being an incel you go off to say a bunch of incel shit? No fucking wonder no one likes you, poor me ass loser

>>40612373
You can say men like me are "fucked up, creepy, and dangerous", but I say women are confusing and don't articulate themselves well, and that's going too far?

>>40612386
The problem is you niggah what about that do you not understand

>>40612412
Women are still confusing and don't articulate themselves well. That's why "just ask women how they feel" is only going to get you so far.
I mean, you should listen up to a point, but you should also understand they're probably framing things in a certain way to obscure parts of themselves they don't want you to see.

I'm not the other guy, btw. I know what my problem is. It's that I'm mental, and I continually push away people who get in my personal space, and in all honesty, I don't know if I like sex, and I feel repulsed by the human body.

>>40611035
>>40611445
my discord. Will keep open till i wake up later today. ihatedisc0rddeletenumbee

>>40610001 (OP)
They literally aren't outside of memes. Why are you guys so pathetic and crying in every thread.

>>40612373
I love how we can observe how sexism informs AFaB -> girl -> woman development, but God fucking help us all when trannies want us to TREAT THEM WITH SEXISM.

There's something biologically that tells people to avoid single people, as contradictory as that sounds.

As soon as you get in a relationship, you become significantly more attractive to people regardless of how attractive you actually are. I think maybe three people approached me in my entire life until I got in a relationship. Now it's basically every time I go in public with my partner.

This is how Chad stays winning btw.

>>40612619
i don't know what any of that means.

>>40612642
0 people ever approached me before i got into a relationship and 0 have approached me sense, you just got hotter somehow

>>40610089
post selfie

OP is just autistic, it's obvious.