>>40641023 (OP)
Because some of us are on this earth for God to punish and torture for His amusement

>>40641023 (OP)
why were newton and einstein smarter than everyone else? it's just how it is...

Androgynous people can be very cute, tho

>>40641023 (OP)
androgyny is Best

>>40641561
It only works when you're leaning towards the feminine side of androgynous and have a feminine body. I'm just stuck between hell fem legs, moid waist, boobs, but slightly muscular upper body

It sucks

bleh

>>40641599
Kys passoid it's rude to mock us lesser hons

>>40641023 (OP)
genetics

>>40641624
If it's truly genetics then why is my mom an hourglass while I'm a formless stick with small boobs and no ass?

>>40641666
The Y chromosome

The estrogen knows when it's in a man -twitter user hsts caitlyn jenner

>>40641751
This isn't about hons it's about trannies stuck in androgynous hell and genuine passoids

>>40641023 (OP)
>androgynous hell
some of us would kill thousands without a second thought to achieve this

>>40641561
she looks 12

>>40641773
I refuse to believe some of y'all would choose looking like a child over actually looking like a woman/man

>>40641796
maybe if you're older. i'm 18 and ftm and would much much rather look like a 14 year old boy than an 18 year old girl. if you're 25+ i understand why you wouldn't want to look pubescent.

>>40641580
e.g. negative androgyny - the lack of distinct gender markers one way or another. not too tall, not too broad, jaw is a bit strong but in a model way; haircut, voice and presentation are all somewhere in between, doesn't grow facial hair nor a lot of body hair, body is somewhat twinky, lean with a smallish frame. as opposed to positive androgyny - the caricature of a tall masculine man in a dress with a beard shadow who also has tits and long hair and wears makeup and has a deep voice and a strong jawline and feminine mannerisms and fagcent and a browbone and a barrel chest and painted nails all at the same time. people tend to find negative androgyny really hot and positive androgyny really creepy.

it's also mostly afab transitioners that are able to achieve the former type of androgyny and mostly amab transitioners that get stuck in the latter, as much as some of you would crucify me for saying this. the more a hon tries to add on top of her masculine traits to mask them, the more positively androgynous she becomes. it's like trying to mask body odor with spray deodorant and loads of cologne.

>>40641796
this board is full of diaper threads and youre surprised some of us would look young if we had the choice?

>>40641817
Pretty much that pushing 30 and having people treat me like I'm 17 is annoying

>>40641904
malebrained attitude i wouldnt know how to act my age i panic like a deer in headlights if anyone expects me to act like an adult and then i get depressed for being a failure who never matured so i prefer to look young to avoid all that to begin with

>>40641904
yeah that makes sense, i'm sorry nona. at least you look young and you're not afraid of aging.

why am i just a pretty boy 1.5yr on estrogen...not even a twinkhon...

>>40642747
unsee?

>>40642796
no thank you. but i'm not wormed; everyone i've talked to irl agrees with me about this, never malefailed despite laser/voice training, etc

>>40642964
male to elf is better anyway, congrats

>>40641023 (OP)
you guys get to be androgynous?

>>40641023 (OP)
god loves them more

>>40643189
lol i was just thinking hrt twinks would probably love to be me. it beats being ugly _and_ a hon like some people end up, i suppose. but i wanted to be a woman :(

>>40641023 (OP)
Luck. Everyone hates to admit it but so much of success and failure in life is literally luck, not because you morally deserved it, wanted it more, tried harder just luck.

Reality is cruel, tis why I want to bring about the new age of sorcery so primordial chaos can free is from circumstance by causing all realities to exist simultaneously vis blinding the prime observer

>>40643672
yeah it's not your ideal but i wouldn't call it a failure at least. a lot of people men and women alike prefer that. i've also heard from trans women that they have a pretty boy phase during the beginning part of their transition so it might just be that you need more time too

>>40641561
Nigga you're a pedophile

>>40641561
When they’re AFAB, yes. Androgynous AMAB is gross.

>>40641580
im like the opposite. my body passes pretty well from the waist up, everything below that is fat man tier. no clue why. ive been on hrt for 7 years

>>40641850
This.

>>40641850
i wonder if this is why i manage to pass, because i present as an ultramasculine tomboy

>>40641850
Positive and negative androgyny is an interesting way of conceptualising it, although really young men are closest to negative androgyny in general, as it relates to angels/bishounenism in anthropological gender studies. I would also say positive androgyny in theory is more like a giant tittied futa, and what you’re describing really is an aged and more masculine tilted version, but in general yes the fertility god situation is less desirable than the youthful slim androgyny

>>40641023 (OP)
weight gain, growth potential. this is a mix of diet, genetics, and epigenetics. if youre not using meds that specifically accelerate growth of female fat and the destruction of male fat youre an idiot.

>>40641561
>androgynous
>girly girl with short hair

>>40648951
>>girly girl
lol, lmao even