Thread 40646258

>Gender and sex are the same thing. If they’re not, explain the difference.

How do you respond to him without sounding mad?

>>40646258 (OP)
neither of them are real
the word "sex" and the word "gender" do not appear in the bible (KJV)

sex is biological and gender is psycho-sociocultural

gender = sex
people who disagree look male and have autism

>>40646258 (OP)
“not gonna talk to you about sex dude i know you wouldn’t get it”

>>40646258 (OP)
OK, I had gender with your dad.

>>40646258 (OP)
Sex = reality, objective
Gender = made up, subjective

>>40646279
explain how pink is feminine

>>40646278
it's funny that people who think sex and gender are real are unable to define what these words mean

>>40646290
you asked me how they were different, not to define them, you retarded pedant.

>>40646295
how do you explain how two things are different without an understanding of what those things are?

>>40646258 (OP)
He's right. Gender isn't your personal feelings about whether you like being male or not, and sociology isn't real science.

>>40646297
you can make an ontological distinction between categories with no referent to the substance of said categories, one dog is different to two dogs its a mathematical distinction of quantity without any referent to what constitutes a dog. do you need anymore prehistoric concepts explained you mindless savage?

>>40646316
but two dogs aren't one thing
i asked how you explain how two things are different, but one dog and two dogs are three things

>>40646258 (OP)
why do you even need to? ive been a tranny for over a decade and nobody has ever tried to have this conversation with me in real life. just stop responding to internet trolls and touch grass. the end

>>40646331
you need a set explained aswell?

>>40646316
there's still an understanding that a dog is a material object in your question
what's the difference between the concept of redness and a chair?

>>40646355
the chair is related to people sitting, red has no relation to people sitting; that one is a relational distinction

>>40646385
if a menstruating pooner sits on a chair, that chair will become redder, therefore red has a relation to people sitting

>>40646397
the menstruated upon chair is not the chair previously discussed, very good you independently discovered an action and affection distinction all on your lonesome

>>40646258 (OP)
sex is a collection of sexed features of the human body. gender is the sex a person's brain expects. transsexuals are born with a gender different from their sex, and they use the assistance of modern medicine to change aspects of their sex to ease the dissonance

>>40646258 (OP)
>Zero and one are the same thing. If they’re not, explain the difference.
No. You're just retarded.

>>40646355
A chair is a clump of atoms in a relation to each other which suggests a solid state, ie an object
"Red" is a wavelength of a specific length, close to infrared, which, in our eyes, gets processed as a color we call "red

>>40646258 (OP)
yeah, they're intrinisically linked
how we feel about gender comes from the brain so you can say gender identity is just part of our biological sex- and trans people then take hrt and get surgery to change other parts of it
while sex is ultimately the application of gender onto body parts, we socially construct even this category, so you can also argue sex is derivative of gender and it's linked in both directions
'gender and sex are different' with no deeper thoughts about it annoys me usually- it doesn't help trans people
people arguing with liberals saying this like it means something big could literally just agree and then go 'ah, so trans women are male women, well then, we want to exclude males rather than men' and the idea of transition and its importance won't even get to enter the picture

>>40646450
So you need to define these things to explain how they are different. Thank you for illustrating my argument anon

>>40646287
red is the most attractant color to our eyes, pink is a softened version of red - the purpose of associating the color that. most catches the human eye with females is to give females attention

Just tell him everything calmly. Whats your problem?

>>40648261
woman isn't a feeling men can have

In common English usage, “gender” is a polite euphemism for “sex”; the two terms are synonymous.
>>40646285
Sex/gender is a social construct.

>>40648441
I don't think I've ever even heard a tranny conscientiously acknowledge that gender is just a euphemism for sex.

>>40648223
... you do realize pink wasn't the girls color untill like the 1900s right? Pink being a muted color representing strength of a boy yet to be a man. Saying sex and gender are the same thing describes certain behaviors, items and attitudes as ontological to the sexes when they simply aren't. Have ingredients seperate definitions is useful in anthropology because different cultures have different expectations for the sexes what constitutes a woman isn't consistent throughout cultures but a female is a biological term that is relatively universal. Delineateing the two from each other is useful.

>>40648478
its not muted though cuz its a variant of red - the most eye catching color

trans women are men
trans men are women
your ideology is a lie

>>40648490
You are not very smart. Read the rest of it and respond to the rest of it. Yk maybe the actual stuff about sex and gender maybe. Also it is. You get pink by adding white to red hence diluting/muting it.

>>40648516
you will never be a woman

>>40648525
Lmao

>>40646581
no, I don't
for example
you can't sit on red
you can sit on a chair
you can't touch "red" as a concept, but you can touch a chair
You can say something "looks reddish" but can't say "something looks chairish" but you can both say that something looks "like a chair" or "like red"

>>40646258 (OP)
Yes but sex is partially mutable.

>>40646258 (OP)
I respond by saying anon you have better things to do posting threads like this and spending your time on this forum that has nothing to do with you, and shouldn't even be used by its target audience desu
Im not mad just disappointed.

>>40646258 (OP)
>sex
biologically male or female, the types of human bodies that normally produce sperm cells or egg cells
>gender categories
the social identities that correspond to the sexes
>gender system
the set of gender categories particular to a culture, together with the set of rituals and symbols and stereotypes and social roles associated with them
>core gender identity
the basically irrepressible sense that one should be this sex or that one
>personal gender identity
which gender category you consider yourself a part of or aspire to be part of
>public gender identity
which gender category you “read” as, or which people politely consider you a part of

Just remember that “trans” means “honorary” <3

>>40648542
neither sex nor gender can or ever have been changed by anyone human on earth

>>40648550
I said sex is partially mutable, because HRT does give you some of your desired secondary sexual characteristics.
Also, consider surgeries, I'd argue they're just as valid as the real thing because cis people have them all the time. For example, a cis woman has breast cancer, and requires a double mastectomy, to cope with the trauma, she gets breast implants, she is no less a woman for doing this, likewise an MTF transsexual who gets breast implants is no less a woman for it.

>>40648577
hrt doesn't make you look closer to the opposite of your birth sex

>>40646258 (OP)
i don't get the question

half of this board admits publicly to trooning out because they were unlovable losers looking for a tribe to latch onto

go look into the threads right now, its not exactly a secret

>>40648598
Is that how you cope with your repping? By lying to yourself about how effective HRT is because you're afraid you might want to take it?
Consider why you feel the need to bait on this board in particular, you might find happiness.

>>40648620
I am not repping there are no reppers there is no transition there is just socially contagious castration hysteria that autistic men like you try their hardest to spread. Your goal is to sell castration as a magical antidote to all of life's troubles.

up

>>40648625
Note that you have to vehemently deny and poison the well every time you talk about transition. I'll see you here in two years when you overcome your demons, Alice.