Thread 40649284

>graham lineham (most divorced man in history) goes on Joe Rogan, starts talking about blanchardianism (ofc they've since canceled Blanchard as a revionist for not being explicitly genocidal against tranners now) and AGP/HSTS
>400m worldwide listeners

so like every bro in the world now is going to have legit /tttt/ brain worms about tranners now?

we literally live in hell. I refuse to be this is actual reality. the demiurge is playing tricks on us, maybe all of existence is here just to keep trans people (pneumatics) down. wyt?

I genuinely cant imagine being that famous and accomplished and giving this much of a shit
Does punching down feel that good?

>>40649326
>Does punching down feel that good?
He's an autist and transphobia is his special interest. It's that shrimple, he literally ruined his family because he couldn't control his autism.

>>40649284 (OP)
Who knew mild criticism about some jokes that aged poorly could spiral into divorce

It's like you refuse to learn at all lol

>>40649284 (OP)
>so like every bro in the world now is going to have legit /tttt/ brain worms about tranners now?

Good for them, what the world needs is more brainwashed peasants living in a state of violent confusion about issues that don't affect them

>>40649284 (OP)
skullchan episode when

>>40649284 (OP)
I watched the whole episode and here's the real problem:
He sounds super reasonable. Sensible, empathetic, coherent, kinda can't keep it together emotionally at times, Joe is reverent about his comedy achievements which as we all know is one of two things he respects unqualified (the other being fighting skills).

This podcast has like 70-80% chance of fully rehabilitating him on its own.

>>40652827
What does Joe say?

He's not the sharpest tool, but can take reasonable positions.

>>40652837
He just agrees with fucking everything, glazes Father Ted, gets blown away by some of Glinner's anti-trans anecdotes and then goes on one of his schizo rants about AI unprompted. He basically apologizes to Linehan on behalf of the world for how he was treated.

>>40649284 (OP)
So far this video is doing better numbers over time than any of Rogan's interviews since Bernie a month or so ago. It's literally Joever.

>>40649284 (OP)
AGP and HSTS hitting normies is probably the best thing that can happen to trannies, seeing as trannies are too retarded to help themselves.
Anything that establishes a narrative that there are "good ones" is good for trannies.
I remember seeing an early version of this chart on /pol/ nearly a decade ago and they were eating it up.
Also just remember everyday that this is the reality that trannies choose and continue to choose.

>>40655412
It will mean that any trans woman who isn't perfectly stereotypically feminine like a stupid sex doll will be accused of being AGP. Incredibly limiting way to live life for anyone.

>>40652837
>What does Joe say?
>He's not the sharpest tool, but can take reasonable positions.
nah, around like 2015 joe took somewhat moderate (though still generally right-leaning) stances on social issues, including trans people. 2025 rogan is a completely different person. trump and then especially covid mulched his brain

>>40655804
Only because trannies refused to police their own community. There was plenty of opportunities to separate out the failed male fake lesbians, the freaks and the predators in the past.
Better that androphillic naturally feminine trans women be extended an olive branch than go down with the transbian ogrehons.

>>40655804
Its true, it just encourages rape

>>40655837
>police their own community

This just means being nasty to one another, which is divide and rule.

Blaire White is the absolute worst representation ever, she is awful. She misgenders herself and encourages others to harm us.

>>40655811
Didn't he have on the UFO psychosis people on back then too? He's onto anti vaccine shills now so it's worst but still he never pretended to have more than a high school education and he never reads full books for his shows

>>40655837
>I hate that nigger
racist
>I hate that jew
antisemetic
>I hate that tranny
"Only because trannies refused to police their own community. There was plenty of opportunities to separate out the failed male fake lesbians, the freaks and the predators in the past."

>>40656006
tbf lots of these people hate niggers and jews too

>>40656018
I stay away from prisons, jobsites, and slums so I wouldn't know

>>40655931
It means accepting that being trans doesn't make you immune to criticism, genuine, or righteous and that a good portion of trannies are bad people in part attracted by the fact that trannies refuse to disavow bad actors.
You're just repeating the propaganda that you've been fed to make sure that people are obsessed with trannies for the next 10 years instead of something that matters.
>>40656006
Never said any of those things, they have nothing to do with what is being said, strawmaning won't help you.
Conflating genuine criticism with hate is exactly why trannies are in this position in the first place. Even most blacks have figured out at this point that the whole "dude if you let people say anything about black criminals you'll actually be genocided by whites" is a psyop.

I can't say this enough, there is no minority group in the world more retarded, more programmable than trannies. Literally nobody else is still buying this same psyop. It's embarrassing to watch at this point. Get a fucking grip lol.

>>40656101
Fuck off.

Policing the community is terf language, we're not stupid you fucking cunt. The far right fascists who want us all dead won't say "oh wow this one is pretty and was a bully online, let's call off the genocide"

They're coming for all of us. Regardless. You can be the most perfect tranner ever, and they'll fucking hate you and cheer when you're killed in the street.

Fuck off

>>40656065
>I stay away from prisons

Bold of you to assume this will be a choice

>>40656167
>being heckin smart?
>THAT'S LITERALLY TERF LAGNUAGE
>learning and improving are heckin transphobic chud we're gonna keep doing the same thing that has made us into the perfect political scapegoats and has only made things worse for 10 years straight
>that's how we'll heckin win!
Like I said, creatures like you will sacrificed so that the normal women who happen to be trans may continue to exist and that's a good thing.

>>40656223
Funny, the trans ban affects passoids and hons.

No one is safe.

>>40656101
There can be no genuine critisism of comparing trannies to straigts until the straights are systematically abandoned by families, attacked by media, sexually assaulted, and degraded at the same rate as trannies.

This isn't hard to understand.

>>40655412
good ones have left the zeitgeist. i was a good one tranny in a group of chuds for 6 years and they turned on me. the backlash hurts all trannies.

>>40656339
>they turned on me

Was this irl or online? How did they change over time?

>>40656234
Try to follow the conversation stupid.
>>40656291
You have to be the most retarded psyopped nigger to think and post a non-sequitur like this.
>>40656339
Literally a symptom of what I am saying. The "good one" narrative has disappeared and the mass injection of AGP vs HSTS has the possibility of re-establishing a good one narrative.

>>40656455
Fuck off

>>40656471
No. I will not abandon feminine androphillic trannies.

>>40656473
No one would ever sleep with you

>>40656504
Why would that matter?

>>40656339
>good ones have left the zeitgeist. i was a good one tranny in a group of chuds for 6 years and they turned on me. the backlash hurts all trannies.
prese S to spit. you 100% deserve it and worse for even wanting to be friends with any rightists let alone what i'm near-certain your own actual beliefs are. i'm jewish and i'd sooner neck myself than try to be "one of the good ones" because i'm too afraid of cutting off friends who happen to be neo-nazis

>>40656530
The irony is it is leftwing people who currently celebrate the death of Jews.
Also very reflective of the unhealthy mindset of trannies that they all only think in horseshoe terms. As if as soon as you talk about them not being freaks you're saying they need to appeal to rightwingers. All part of the brain rot.
I honestly don't think trannies as a group should have autonomy any longer. They're just too stupid and servile. It's unfair to allow trannies to self-govern.

>>40656525
Because you're gross!

>>40656685
Why would that matter?

>>40656392
my irl conservative friends kinda slowly drifted away over a few months after i came out. i had chud friends from 2018 who became tradcath types in 2020 and started misgendering me and belittling me every time id talk to them. another batch was more normal until one of them detrooned in like 2023 and became a kinda terf type who still sent me a ton of kind messages in dms but would publicly disparage trannies including me. i moved away from that group because they all kinda became more like that and it just all makes me feel like shit
>>40656455
half already believe in agp and that every tranny is agp. many chud types unironically would tell me i was the one exception in their view, though that was temporary.
>>40656530
>you 100% deserve it and worse
very true
>for even wanting to be friends with any rightists
not that it really makes it better but i did originally go in with the intent to deprogram them by showing them trannies are people
>or what im near-certain your own actual beliefs are
i am actually pretty woke
>because im too afraid of cutting off friends who happened to be neo-nazis
they licked my wounds. i made a string of bad decisions that led me to mental illness and a feeling of reliance on those groups for self worth. befriending those people was probably the worst decision of my life.

>>40656808
I'll say it again; if the AGP vs HSTS narrative hits the masses there is a chance that there will be a schism and the people will start identifying some trannies as "the good ones".

>>40649284 (OP)
>>so like every bro in the world now is going to have legit /tttt/ brain worms about tranners now?
>
> we literally live in hell
What? You just said it yourself. You're the ones who couldn't shut the fuck up about this obscure obsolete medical theory based on phallometry junk science on par with lie detector tests. You got what you wanted. Everyone heard about it loud and clear. Why are you complaining?

>>40655412
Would people actually just read the goddamn Blanchardist literature rather than spewing their half baked reinterpretations learned through social media osmosis.
There is no "good" or "bad" between HSTS and AGP, they're both neutral. AGP is not a fetish, its a sexual orientation.
This important info will be lost on normalfags, and now all AGPs will be perceived as perverts for their innate, harmless sexuality.

>>40656966
Unimportant. So long as the perception is that there are good trans women, and that those trans women are androphillic then that is an improvement over the current situation created by trans people.
If trannies governed their shit to begin with and persecuted perverts then people wouldn't perceive them as such.

>>40649284 (OP)
>so like every bro in the world now is going to have legit /tttt/ brain worms about tranners now?

>4fag is the cultural avant-garde
>normgroids catch up
>we can feel like smug hipsters about normie retards being cringe and late to the party as usual
>while we find the next brainworms
tale as old as time

>>40649770
autism forgives no one...

>>40656006
all of them need to police their own or dissociate from the bad ones
>t. yuronog

>>40657003
Persecution and marginalization of harmless sexual minorities is not unimportant.

>>40657056
Lame waste of time reply, grow up.

>>40657027
That's just what teans people need to do, isolate one another, definitely a good idea!

Especially when our rights are fucked

>>40657118
>i have decided that i no longer wish to engage in this discussion because i don't have any bullshit left to spew
just say that anon

>>40649284 (OP)
down with this sort of thing

>>40657424
careful now

>>40657433
I hear you're a racist now, Father?

>>40657505
That would be an ecumenical matter.

>>40649284 (OP)
I wished for everyone to live in the same hell as me and now I regret it

>>40657158
Your reply is irrelevant. It's a nothing appeal to decency that you losers like to throw around as if it matters.
Either address what is said or don't, I don't care, I'm not going to engage with lame little baby attempts to pivot and misconstrue what is being argued because I don't care.

>>40656006
>I hate that nigger
>racist
Literally even black people used to know that they needed to distance themselves from niggers and separate them out, but hood rat culture won (in no small part due to the entertainment industry) and riots and sperging over dindus became a social obligation for them. Look up Chris Rock's black people vs. niggers routine for example.

I'll hide in my faggot manmoder role for as long as possible (indefinitely).

>>40658193
the issue is that cis people have consistently chosen to elevate our equivalent's voices (cissexual "trans" people") and have systematically disenfranchised the voices of actual transsexuals. impossible to have your own narrative when you have no access to media reach and are outnumbered 100 to 1 by people who hate you and want to see your group exterminated

>>40659147
Is that pic supposed to be an example of the faketrans that cis people elevate? I've never seen any mainstream outlet reference "trans juche" so I doubt it, but at the same time, if you're suggesting that people who believe in "the reality of trans genocide" are the actual transsexuals and the sane ones, you're part of the problem.

>>40659201
are you actually dumb enough to deny trans genocide, that there is a coordinated and concerted effort to forcibly abolish and destroy transsexualism as a concept and potential life path, by all available means including economic, legal, physical, sexual violence etc?

frankly retarded if so.. especially in a world where v-coding and forced sterilization has been the norm

>>40659241
First of all trannies are not an ethnic group so they can't be subject to genocide by definition.

Secondly, yes you're a histrionic freak. The level of exaggeration required for "back to 2005 tranny laws" to be genocide is actually insane. And that's exactly why you people need to be weeded out and disavowed, you're an optics catastrophe.

>>40659256
>back to 2005 tranny laws
Anon... before the tranny panic there were no "bathroom" or "changing room" laws. Even if you were a guy, you couldve just gone and take a piss if the guy's was full before the moral panic shit. This is genuinely past the aids crisis level of faggot-tranny hate

>>40659256
1st world countries have had literal Nazi era eugenics laws on books and enforced on transsexual populations until something like 2016. we already have PTSD rates slightly lower than literal Holocaust survivors.

maybe genocide isn't the most possibly accurate term, would "democide" (a word that no normie has heard or understands) satisfy your pedantry? the idea that it isn't a concentrated externinationist policy is frankly absurd.

>>40659256
By whoes definition? The systemic exclusion of trans people from society us genocidal.

Why would you argue against this, why do you care about what happens to a fringe minority and why would you defend the British establishment?

>Trans genocide : the systematic attempt to eliminate transsexual people as a group, through direct violence, state policies, or social conditions that destroy their ability to survive and live openly.

>This can include killings, forced detransition, forced puberty, denial of medical care, legal erasure, and conditions that make continued existence as a trans person impossible. It follows the same conceptual structure as the UN definition of genocide, applied to gender identity or transsexual status

>>40659346
trannies can't reproduce so there is no natural definition of them as a group
it's like saying that curing deafness is genocide of deaf people

>>40659325
>it's not back to 2005, it's back to 2015!!!
>anything but the last ten years of human history is literal genocide
NAYRT but you're not making your case look great here.

>>40659390
You can't produce, so shooting you in the head isn't murder

>>40659390
>it's like saying that curing deafness is genocide of deaf people

I'm not going to argue with you, but there is no equivalence here. if deaf people were routinely sterilized, raped, and subject to state violence for being deaf, then yes it would unequivocally be genocide in intent

>>40659397
https://web.archive.org/web/20180717154246/https://tgeu.org/german-constitutional-court-declares-compulsory-surgeries-unconstitutional/

It was 2011, not 2016 as previously stated. if you require sterilization of a minority to be a requirement for legal recognition, it's genocide, full stop. This is only 15 years ago, and in a 1st world nation. even in Western Europe there hasn't been a single generation yet where transsexuals haven't been subject to overwhelming state violence and genocide

>>40659273
There were no hard laws on toilet use because there was a compact social norm, retard. Trannies (in the sense of people self-designated as trans, as opposed to people with the relevant neurological development issue who are obviously equally common) were also two orders of magnitude rarer than now.

>This is genuinely past the aids crisis level of faggot-tranny hate
>t. born in the 2010s

>>40659325
No because a democide also involves literal actual genuine non-figurative killings, like Pinochet disappearing commies. You're mad because *at most* you might be deprived of free medications and surgical procedures which you will still have a legal ability to obtain on your own dime. Your hysterical exaggerations are exactly what we need to purge from this movement.

>>40659328
>By whose definition?
Every sane person on the entire planet? People are arguing seriously whether the starvation in Gaza counts as a genocide ffs, you're out here bitching about a return to the liberal status quo on sex change and you're so brainwormed you call that genocide.

>>40659443
>I correct myself, evidently anything but the last fifteen years of human history is literal genocide
Not helping!

>>40659446
So you pulled it straight from your arsehole since both the UN and Lemkin Institute agree its a genocide.

Stfu about Gaza, it isn't relevant

Rome statute of the ICC:

>Persecution (Art. 7(1) (h)) - severe deprivation of fundamental rights contrary to international law, targeted at a group on grounds including gender or "other grounds universally recognized as impermissible."

>Enforced sterilization (Art. 7(1)(g)) - explicitly listed as a crime against humanity, whether by surgery, chemical castration, or other measures, when not medically necessary and without genuine consent.

>Other inhumane acts (Art. 7(1)(k)) - acts intentionally causing great suffering or serious injury to body or mental/physical health, such as denial of essential medical care (e.g., transition-related treatment) if systematic.

So technically not genocide, but "only" a crime against humanity

>>40659453
Yes.

>>40659446
>which you will still have a legal ability to obtain on your own dime.
there have been multiple talks among cassoids to raise the legal ability to obtain hrt/surgeries up to 30 as well as cracking down on diy (which, for estrogen, is at this time still legal)
>liberal status quo on sex change
no?
> compact social norm, retard
I think you're the one retarded here

>>40659453
>i am retarded and cannot understand nuance because to me genocide is exclusively when gassing or something

>>40659443
Trans rights is somehow when anti sterilization for adults but pro sterilization for children. Please start making some sense.

>>40659531
>nuance is when you force terminological change on others on the hope that concepts can be abused
Unfortunately for you and fortunately for civil society, thid doesn't work, as we've seen repeatedly in recent years. If you distort the meaning of genocide people will just stop caring when you say someone's doing a """genocide""" and so on.

>>40657003
nta but
you don't get it anon, going full blanchard would only make things worse. its high likely that retarded normies would simply classify most trannies as AGP and continue to call us perverts disregarding any androphilic tendencies some of us may have.
this "good one" narrative that you want trans ppl to enact would only backfire.

*sigh* wish we could use the 'gender variance model' to describe the differences and nuances of our existence but cis ppl love to dictate what we are....

>>40661328
>>40659861
Why are you arguing on this fringe medical topic?