Thread 40651161

This guy hates us and wants us dead that's why I believe that Gaza genocide is good thing because Pisslam is full of lgbtphobic bigots and Muhammed is a chud

I am not insulting Islam, but I completely agree with you.

>>40651184
Total Goatfucker Death?

>>40651161 (OP)
total abrahamic erasure would do this wprld tremendous good

i dont mean people i mean those broken warring faiths that are incompatible with a peaceful free society built on love

>>40651161 (OP)
Well this guy is pretty based. Also I don't think you should support genocides of anyone, OP

There are people in gaza with gender dysphoria suffering

>>40651454
Most of your conceptions of right and wrong have their basis in the new testament.

Christian's we're the ones who invented human rights.

Fight Islam and the Jews, sure that's fine.

But be a little grateful you dumb bitch.

On a deep psychological level that you don't even realize your love is a result of christianity.

It's not all of it but it's part of it.

Just a little bit of fucking gratitude Instead of being a cynical cunt would be wonderful for once.

Nothing's perfect, no group is perfect.

Just a little bit of grace goes a long way.

>>40651161 (OP)
true that's why we need to kill the children too

>>40652148
LOL! Retarded, historically illiterate Christcuck believes his primitive desert cult came up with morality.
It took your religion more than a millenia to realise things like slavery are wrong huh? You are perhaps not aware that both the new and the old testament endorse slavery, you tools don't even bother to read your own "sacred texts".
The Enlightenment is what started the journey towards human rights, you know the moment society started becoming increasingly secular. Thousands being tortured in the most inhumane ways for imaginary crimes like witchcraft and heresy IS the legacy of your dead kike worshipping ways, don't talk about muh human rights.

>>40652148
/lgbt/ SHOULD be grateful that the bible morality holds that they should be stoned to death(no, the NT didn't get rid of anti homosexuality laws, just some silly jewish laws like practicing hygiene).

/lgbt/ should NOT be grateful that some christians eventually rejected bible morality and invented human rights instead.

>>40651161 (OP)
dont jews follow the same god minus the pedo prophet?

>>40653189
Which fanfic do you follow?

>>40653212
Yes, all Abrahamic religions follow the same God. Jews are the original; Christians added Jesus; Muslims added Muhammad.

>>40652004
Bahá'ís are kind of weird. They feel like less insane JWs but they still have that "abstain from partisan politics" thing I don't really agree with. Also they disapprove of gays but approve of trannies.

>>40652148
>Most of your conceptions of right and wrong have their basis in the new testament.
>Christian's we're the ones who invented human rights.
>Fight Islam and the Jews, sure that's fine.
in america jews were generally the leaders in pushes for human rights while the most powerful and vocal opponents were typically evangelical and fundamentalist christians

>>40653134
Again, you're illiterate and don't understand the broader foundations.The new testament set for morality overtime.

Yes the new testament revolutionize the world and laid the moral foundations that you attack christians with right now.

The new testament acknowledges slavery as a reality at the time but it also goes out of its way to make it clear that all human beings are infinitely valuable and equal because they are made in the image of god.

There is neither slave nor free, male nor female, for we are all one in christ.

I'm sorry that you circled jerked to some Reddit atheism and never received a proper education.

>>40653189
Christianity and the new testament oppose the death penalty for gays.

Even the concept of a human right does not exist prior to the advancement of christians following their faith to the logical conclusion.

You should be grateful but christians are going to keep loving you anyways even if you are mentally retarded.

>>40655467
No muslims have a lot of other weird moon paganism them and arabian god influence.

However yes christianity superior to both of them.

>>40655779
White evangelicals were more involved.
In fighting things like slavery and oppression in general.

Jews were involved in some good things, however they also lobbied to flood this country with low IQ worker slaves and for women to kill their babies in the womb.

They have a much more mixed record.

>>40656043
I don't really see it. Muslims from what I have read and seen are a lot more autistic about and obsessed with monotheism than most Christians and Jews.

>>40656427
If you actually dig into the sources it's not the case.

For instance the words of allah in the form of the Quran are eternal.

Not only are they eternal, but they're also sentient and can think and commindicate.

Even individual chapters will testify as sentient entities of eternal existence on the day of judgment.

It's more accurate to say that the koran has over one hundred plus.

Because the eternal speech of allah is speaking back in a sentient manner to allah.

That's not even going into all the weird stuff with the satanic verses and the pagan gods muhammad temporarily gave the go ahead to worship.

>>40656468
This seems all like esoteric stuff which is not at all unique to Islam. Judaism has Kabbalah; Christianity has Gnosticism. Strains which take a lot more influence from mysticism and akin to Roman mystery religions.

>>40656492
Yeah, but I'm saying this isn't esoteric and is in their primary sources.

The esoteric stuff in islam would be the sufi mysticism.

This is plain basic ass boring islam.

>>40652018
>They wouldnt be suffering under islamic rule

>>40656581
Sadly islam is likely to conquer the world because atheists enable it at every point.

Atheism turns men into weak Sissy beta males and makes their penises shrink into clits evolutionarily.

It kills the fertility of a nation , and then muslims come into fuck their women and in state sharia.

Atheists are made FOR BIG RELIGIOUS COCK!!!!

>>40656468
>For instance the words of allah in the form of the Quran are eternal.
The logic I've seen is that since God knows everything past, present, and future, and that God is eternal with no beginning and end, and that the Quran contains the actual words of God, then God must have known his own words before speaking them, thus the Quran is uncreated and eternal. Maybe it's flawed logic, but I argue it's not pure nonsense.
>Not only are they eternal, but they're also sentient and can think and commindicate.
>Even individual chapters will testify as sentient entities of eternal existence on the day of judgment.
>It's lore accurate to say that the koran has over one hundred plus.
>Because the eternal speech of allah is speaking back in a sentient manner to allah.
I cannot find a source on these. I don't think anyone actually worships the Quran. From what you describe, the verses, if sentient, would be more like messengers and still subordinate to God akin to angels.
>That's not even going into all the weird stuff with the satanic verses and the pagan gods muhammad temporarily gave the go ahead to worship.
I thought the point of that narrative is that Muhammad, being human, is flawed and able to make mistakes and to be led astray by Satan, but realizes this and corrects himself.

>>40656468
>>40656616
>For instance the words of allah in the form of the Quran are eternal.
Also, this is not a universal belief among Muslims and is argued about to this day with Shi'ites disagreeing with the notion of the Quran being eternal.

>>40656616
Yes but it has also stated very clearly to be a separate sentient entity that can speak things other than itself.

It is another co-eternal being with him.

No muslim worships the Quran formally even if their actions suggest otherwise.

However they lay out criteria where it should be equivalent to allah.

Sam samoon, David Wood and godlogic on YouTube lay out the evidence very concretely why Islam probably has at least over a 100 gods if we are to understand the Quran and its chapters as separate eternal beings from allah.

They will actually argue in favor with Allah himself as separate eternal beings.

A good place to look if you're not gonna go on YouTube is the verses becoming like doves on the day of judgment.

>>40656616
He never corrects himself he gets corrected by gabriel.

He also has long stretches of time where he thinks he's having sex with his wives , but it's is revealed that that was all the delusion caused by a demon possessing him.

He seems to get possessed by demons every other week and I think it makes him an unreliable narrator.

Even during his first revelation he thought a demon was possessing him.

Muhammad ran a demonic demon cult that allowed him to goon more and get loli sex wives.

... When I'm saying this out loud I realize why now atheists love them so much...

Vuash amd TJ have probably masturbated to aisha porn:(

>>40656703
Eh, maybe, but it also seems like whinging on semantics. A common complaint Jews and Muslims have against Trinitarian Christians is that the Trinity is barely-disguised polytheism.

>>40651161 (OP)
Plus Israel sends boyfriends to white trans women. I love Israel.

>>40656662
The vast majority of muslims abide by the Quran being eternal.

I mean I would prefer Muslims not think that because I think it's easier to defend and leads to some better outcomes however it's the most orthodox position.

I prefer Folk islam that gets mixed with shamanism and mysticism.

Right now however, we're getting ready to fight the Jihad. The atheists opened up our borders to get blacked by savage sand niggers because they have a cuck fetish.

If anything I have more contempt for the atheists because of how fucking stupid they are and how they should know better.

Something about atheism just causes people to lose their mind and become completely irrational.

We should throw the atheists to the muslims so they can get raped as they so desire.

At least the anti theist ones, the ones that actively undermine their own living in double think.

>>40656731
Well their complaints are retarded and they would feel like that as inferior religions in every regard.

There's many times in the old testament we can see god referred to as a multiplicity.

Christianity is the one that is most open with the multi personal nature of god.

Christians are the superior religious race

They're at the top tier along with Buddhism and Taoism.

I think I would even include some forms of hinduism up there too.

I really loved the Bahaga vad gita.

Regardless it's everybody against islam.

It's one humanity against the end of humanity which is islam.

This is a global struggle which we cannot allow islam to win.

>>40656740
Jewish atheists be trying to destroy the western world again:(

Probably some religious Jews in there but I understand this is more racial and a contempt for human goodness of the atheist spirit primarily.

>>40652148
Enlightenment Freemasons invented human rights.

>>40656794
Absolutely untrue.

It was christians and theists.

>>40651161 (OP)
islamophobia is bad because people aren't employing hating religious intolerance equally. when bhuddist monks beat a young man to death for being gay people aren't sending billions of war dollars to india so they can genocide them or something. none of you have plans to actually harm or destroy Christian hegemony in your communities. instead you just slurp up isreali propaganda that Palestinians are evil and hate gays when every gay person in Gaza is either dead, will be dead or at risk of starvation because of what jews have done. innocent children are suffering, dying, and losing normalcy forever which will 100% radicalize them into becoming the monsters you accuse them of and you will smugly revel in their torture and death for internet points.

the real goodpill is trying to minimize human suffering and no amount of glorifying genocide will ever achieve anything except perpetuating the cycles of tribalism that can very easily turn against you at any moment.

>>40656822
Deists, yes,
In the 1000 years that Christianity ruled Europe, there was never anything equivalent to the US constitution or bill of rights.
Christians have the privilege of acting peaceful and righteous because the enlightened state has declawed you (in the west at least, in Africa you still behave as 16th century witch hunters).

>>40656825
Oh look, we have a useful idiot for the islamist's lololol.

Oh yeah, when a Buddhist monk beats a young man to death for being gay every one hundred thousand years or so lolol.

Nigga you are so retarded I know you can actually be serious.

Even if you can find crazy outlier cases generally the only one killing gays in this day and age are muslims.

We are talking like ninety nine percent plus.

We need to fight islam because it's taking over our societies through mass immigration you dip shit.

Christian civilization is under threat despite it being the most kind and willing to adapt and tolerate others.

It's become too nice and accepting.

It needs some backbone to defend the fundamentals of the west.

Listen the palestinians are legitimately evil people, even the other muslims in the area acknowledge this and don't wanna take them into their countries because the last time they did that they tried to overthrow them and bring in a sharia state.

It happened in jordan, egypt, lebanon, you can go on. Wherever they go they bring terrorism they're like the worst of muslims.

There are many problems with the jews but they are morally superior to the palestinians. They are losing their minds right now because of the situation the savages put them in and they are becoming savages themselves.

They are acting like what palestinians would in the same position and honestly I would like it to stop.

I need to continue to be the morally superior ones but they're thinking long term and hoping if they can just expell them from their land they can bring peace.

There must be less violent way though.

What i'm afraid is they're gonna send these fucking crazy palestinians into europe and make the white genocide there even worsem

The Jews are obviously doing bad things, war crimes even, but they're also not facing a saintly opponent.

>>40656909
I live in a majority Muslim country as a non passing out transwoman and its not an issue. I think you are just racist like most Americans and europeans

>>40656883
Somebody has never read the magna carda or any of the other dozens of documents based in Christian morality to give human rights to citizens of various principalities and states.

Like nigga you might be retarded and never have read anything in your life, but you don't need to announce it like that.

The Enlightenment is just a secularized form of Christianity and even then it's inferior and still needed Christians to bring its Ideals into reality.

The christians are superior to you in every way imaginable.

Bow before your master's beta male.

Also african niggers are like that because seventy Iq.

>>40652148
Leftists/liberals (atheists or coping prog-Christians) fought for every right there is and civilized Christian chuds who are just as retarded as Muslim chuds and would go back to their old ways without the guidance from their superiors. It's funny how they claim achievements of people that they hate.

>>40656921
There are some muslim countries that have been subverted by modernity.

You gotta give me the name of your country then I can make an assessment.

You very well could be in a country that for all intensive purposes isn't muslim anymore.

If you were a tranny in the UK or pakistan, proper muslim countries, you would understand islam is coming to rape you.

>>40656703
>Sam samoon, David Wood and godlogic
Their YouTube thumbnails are all cancerous and give me the impression of them being combative debaters with the intent of selling me something rather than educating. Fucking Redeemed Zoomer feels more trustworthy.

>>40656935
If you read the history it was primarily zealous and evangelical christians getting berated by atheists as they fought to end slavery.

It was richard dawkins versus martin luther king essentially.

Those are the two kind of architypes you're looking at there.

Also, those disgusting atheists made baby murder in the womb legal.

Abortion has facilitated a super holocaust and also opened the door for us being outbread by muslim savages.

Atheists constantly need the religious to guide them away from their retarded self destruction.

You're welcome faggot.

We love you even if you are intellectually deficient and perpetually suicidal.

It is the christian burden ringing true in much the same way the white man's burden rings true.

>>40656925
The Magna Carta applied only to the nobility, and protected the privileges of a feudal mafia from the boss.
Torture was traditionally never a part of the English common law, until Rome sent its agents searching for rogue Templars, and demanded of Edward II that they be allowed to use torture to extract information to learn their whereabouts, at which point torture became commonplace in England. That was the contribution of the church to human rights under the law for the next 400 years.
But, it's obvious you are simply another racist deus vult fake Christian larper from /pol/, so there's really no point continuing this.

>>40656956
What's the end goal of talking about "great replacement" and anti-pro-choice cause on /lgbt/? What's your end goal here retard. Ah, all those confederate atheists kek
Who fought for gay marriage, LGBT social acceptance, for trans issues? For womens rights? That's what we care about the most here

>>40656956
Not that anon, but was there not a religious element to the American Civil War? I read about churches splitting between north and south regarding the place of slavery, with there being Southern Christians that argued that slavery is biblical and inherent to civilization?

>>40656956
>>40656982 (me)
From what I have read as well, southern evangelicals today also tend to argue for "Lost Cause of the Confederacy" historiography and the memorialization of Confederate generals.

>>40656952
You have to take this in context.

There are facing crazy muslims that want to cut your head off and often will say on stream that they want and plan to kill these people debating them.

When they get reported especially the UK ones, the authorities look the other way because they're brown.

They genuinely will educate you using primary sources and great arguments if you give them a chance.

Plus some of the streams can be really chill.

I recommend Apostate Phophet and david wood especially.

They do great streams with each other on their respective channels and are supremely interesting individuals

David Wood is a psychopath with no real emotions however he came to christ purely on rationality.

AP is was an ex muslim who had his anti die from crazy muslim violence and became an atheist.

He continued that for years but decided to stream with david wood to fight the jihad.

Slowly, but surely he eventually became a Christian and now fights for all that is right to save the world from islam with a new christian family.

So many different story arcs and confrontations with the craziest muslims who want to fuck literal nine month year old babies.

I'm not kidding daniel pikachu of muslim skeptic was cornered in a debate where he admitted islam would allow you to fuck a 9 month old baby if the parents allowed it in islam
And that's not even the craziest stuff to come out of their interactions with muslims.

>>40656956
Also I mentioned you guys claiming achievements of people you hate, and here you are doing it with MLK after everything you've posted about blacks ITT lmao

>>40656974
Yeah , buddy , you can continue to spout complete nonsense and revisionist history , but that doesn't change the truth.

Torture was common in the UK for thousands of years.

Christians constantly pushed for new human rights throughout the existence of Christianity.And just because you're ignorant of that history doesn't mean it didn't happen

>>40656981
I'm hoping to awaken in you white consciousness and break the woke conditioning.

Also hoping you'll stand against the baby holocaust

Unironically yes many of the slave holders were decadent bourgeois atheists.

Christians were more tolerant of the gays than muslims or other groups but they did have problems.

I'm not claiming that they're perfect I'm just observing a general trend that
has a few exceptions.

However, those christians were willing to listen and change for the better.

To find new interpretations and greater emphasis on the core of their religion being loving of the neighbor and humanity.

Women's rights were largely a mistake though and need to be rebalanced.

Any rational person can see that.

>>40651161 (OP)
>a lion wants to eat me that means I will cheer for total lion death
they're just retarded, doesn't mean human rights are revoked
being a retard does not mean you lose human rights

>>40656982
The majority of the southern christians did not have an opinion on slavery and were more focused on the element that the north started the war.

They were focused on far more important things to their survival and lived apart from the blacks who were concentrated on plantations away from their daily lives.

The absolute most zealous Christians were the ones who were fighting to end slavery because they wanted the new jerusalem.

I recommend you go read frederick douglas who explains the conflict really well as one of the greatest minds of people who lived through the events.

We're talking about a 160IQ genius and one of the leaders of the abolitionist movement.

>>40657017
I can agree that we should not oppress black people even if they might have different traits on average from us.

Really they should be given their own country.

But if they're living alongside us they should have equal rights don't you agree?

>>40657055
>I'm hoping to get you guys to fight against your own rights

>>40657055
>Unironically yes many of the slave holders were decadent bourgeois atheists.
why are most blacks in the states christian then? I wonder who converted them

>>40657101
No i'm hoping you'll wake up and fight in your own best interest you stupid Reddit Tranny.

Your people and civilization need you to fight the Jihad not to suck muslim BBC.

You should be sucking your fellow white man's cock and fighting for the perpetuation of your race and civilization.

>>40657014
From what I can see, Frederick Douglass was a religious man who did mention there were Southern Christians and clergy who supported slavery and called them hypocrites and un-christian, but I can't find him addressing atheism among them, he even had respect for an agnostic writer apparently?

>>40657107
The general community of christians around that expected people to be christian.

Many slaveholders would intentionally keep their slaves illiterate so they couldn't read the bible.

We have records of them outright admitting this and trying to keep missionaries away from their slaves.

>>40657127
You have to go deeper into his larger body of writting.

I recommend starting with his speech on the dread scott decision in 1857.

>>40657138
What I'm dishing out to you Is the truth, something you despise

>>40657014
Hmm, I don't know. I do have a distrust for most forms of Islam, but I also have a distrust for most Christians. I do not believe that engaging in same-sex relations is inherently wrong or that it will automatically lead to sexual decadence or raping kids or will automatically lead to an empty and unfulfilling life, and it seems that many Christians disagree. I also do not believe that the Earth is only thousands of years old rather than billions and one of my teachers at my protestant elementary school certainly did believe that.

>>40656981
The goal is for Christian fascists to wield gay rights (which they were fighting tooth and nail 5 minutes ago) as a cudgel in their fight against Islam, whom they have detected not as an ideological enemy (they agree on almost everything apart from theology), but as a rival mafia making a play for their turf. Or, in some cases, simply because they are brown.
The scorpion always strings the frog in the end, of course.

>>40657206
Is the vast majority of Christians?Do not think the world is a few thousand years old.

The vast majority of christians do not want to persecute the gays and are more accepting now than they have ever been.

I'm not claiming to you christians are some kind of perfect group. I'm asking you to look at their current reality and the positive effects they've had through history.

I recommend that if you really want an insight into modern christians you should be following the conflicts between them and the muslims to see the contrast.

It is a constant sight to see Muslims talking about how they should kill every homosexual and a Christian telling them no that's wrong.

I Literally see muslims defending marrying six year olds on a weekly basis is while christians telling them that's evil.

I also have a great respect for other world religions like buddhism or hinduism.

Is atheists basically ceased to reproduce after a generation or two.

You need to look at the current demographic trends in the countries across this globe.

Once you digest this data and see the migration patterns you'll realize it's everybody against islam.

Islam is the fastest growing religion because of the way they enslave women.

Please, I'm asking you for all that is good. Try to have empathy for these other groups and work with them to fight the muslims .

Buddhists are the only group that has similar birth rates to atheists and i'm trying to improve that condition within the buddhist community.

I think it's because a lot of them have been subverted by secular forces.

We are seeing places with genuine Buddhist revivals but I know for certain atheism is not sustainable demographically.

There is not a single atheist population on this planet with is a replacement birth rate.

China is projected to lose eight hundred million people by the end of the century because of atheists.

>>40657227
Believe it or not, Christians are far less savage than Muslims and you have a lot of woke gays supporting islam out of ignorance.

These religions are radically different.

Is compare jesus christ the muhammad and you'll see that if it was an obvious.

Even most atheists acknowledge this like sam harris or richard dawkins.

Practically every major atheist intellectual acknowledges christianity as superior.

>>40657256
I do agree with your main point that though Christianity is not perfect that there are many good Christians. However, I feel the same way about all major religious traditions, including Islam. In the middle ages there was an Islamic golden age where the Middle East was considered a great place of learning and philosophy. There was also a time when many Jews and minority Christians such as the Oriental Orthodox preferred living under Muslim rulers as they were tolerated rather than persecuted or evicted by Catholics and the Eastern Orthodox. Now, the middle east is a shithole and many Islamic scholars are insane, but I do not think that is inherent. In Indonesia, things are not so oppressive compared to the middle east despite being majority-muslim and there is a queer community there. Muslims also have the biggest share in Albania but it is not so oppressive. Maybe these are small exceptions, but to me, that is a sign that there is hope for improvement and that the middle east will not be the way it is forever.

>>40657256
Religion declines for the same reason everywhere: countries become rich, and people forget about going to church and go shopping instead.
Tilting at some imagined atheist or "woke" lobby is futile; they were the symptom and not the cause.
In the same way, factors driving mass immigration are also mostly economic, not any imagined Jewish conspiracy.
You would do far better in both regards to tilt at the root causes of both: materialism and consumerism. You won't however, because your masters on the right will not allow you to do anything to jeopardise the GDP, and have successfully contained you in this fruitless war of cultures instead.

>>40657264
>Believe it or not, Christians are far less savage than Muslims
it wasn't always like this. greek christians considered muslims better than their christian "brothers". and now christians are radicalizing again. it's the fucking 21th century, time to end superstition.
morality stems from empathy. many animals also show such behaviors. if you need a god or threat of hell to behave decently, then you're simply a psychopath and "morality" is for you just an excuse to terrorize the vulnerable that did you no objective harm while being lenient on pedopriests, wife beaters etc.

>>40657130
>Many slaveholders would intentionally keep their slaves illiterate so they couldn't read the bible.
so did the catholic church its white believers before protestants came with their promotion of literacy. the bible was literally in the index of forbidden books. it was illegal to translate the bible into national languages, supposedly to avoid mistranslation and heresy - which was bullshit, the vulgate itself was infamously mistranslated, passages were faked, even before christianity jews erased passages suggesting yahweh is only part of a pantheon and son of the canaanite Zeus "El".

>>40657323
Thing is that religions are different and islam is the absolute worst.

Even the so called islamic golden age is a myth, most of the innovations of that time came from christians and jews that lived under the muslim rule not the muslims themselves.

The muslims intentionally kept these populations from converting so they could charge them extra jizza tax.

There was great oppression of these groups at this time and they lived as second class citizens.

Especially the jews got mistreated and many of them wrote about it in detail.

Muslims are trying to hoodwink you is along with the woke intellectuals.

The thing is just like in Iran once the radical Muslims win....they will take the leftists to the slaughter house.

There are radical muslim terrorists in indonesia slaughtering people in the name of allah.

There are places in indonesia far from the capital where they still cut people's hands off for stealing.

I'm not shitting you there are extremely radical areas of indonesia.

I don't think every Muslim is a zealot however as a civilization they tend to produce them in droves.

They are the greatest enemy of humanity just slightly beating out atheists.

Atheists solve themselves because they are weak beta males which cause their own penises to stop functioning evolutionarily for all intensive purposes.

Natural selection will easily weed them out because they don't know how to reproduce at replacement rates.

However muslims are more dangerous because they can reproduce accurate number.

Albania is no longer majority muslim and is becoming a christian country thankfully.

They already had positive influence of superior christian ethics is and now they're leaving the supreme darkness of islam<3

You don't have to believe any of this but you should still support christianity even if you think it's bullshit.

We need it to maintain Western civilization.

I believe a universalist version of it so I believe everyone's eventually making it to heaven.

>>40657337
Israel has become richer and richer but also more religious at the same time.It disproves your theory.

There are countless other examples.You can find throughout history including the northeast of america for long stretches of history.

You have no idea about all of the subversives who intentionally tried to undermine western civilization and funded these woke atheists.

It wasn't a natural consequence It was manufactured mostly by jews if we're being honest.

Not saying all jews are responsible but there does exist an anti goyium jewish supremacist movement that wanted to weaken the white man and western civilization.

I agree materialism and consumerism have become out of hand phenomenons that need to be controlled.

The jews might have caused it but we can fix it without doing a holocaust.

We can respect people's human rights and save the west.

The right-wing is now building the intellectual infrastructure we will need to destroy the atheist jew masters and save the world from eternal "darkness".

>>40657489
>Natural selection will easily weed them out because they don't know how to reproduce at replacement rates. However muslims are more dangerous because they can reproduce accurate number.
you're delusional. everyone is making less and less children, including muslims. maybe mormons are an exception, but they have no chance anyway, the world will either make demographics irrelevant through technological progress or perish as the environment becomes too hostile and devoid of economically viable resources to support humankind.

>>40657440
OY VEYYYYYY!!!

YOU CONSIDERED THEM YOUR BROTHERS GOYIUM FRFR:):):)

Do you really think we're so gullible?

Morality does not exist without spirituality or religion.

It becomes the same thing as liking a certain flavor of ice cream or not liking it.

The religious will outbreed you and out compete you every time in the evolutionary game of life.

They are your superior masters boy, they are your evolutionary kings of nature.

Bow down before the superior religious giga chad you weak sissy small clitted FAGGGOT:)

You need a big religious cock up your ass right now beta male;)

Public schools are dozens of times more likely to molest kids than a priest.

Your lies and low IQ bait is pathetic much like the atheist birth rate.

Just lie down and take it, you slutty weak atheist.

The religious will keep clapping your cheeks for a thousand years.

Really mean of you for causing a global population collapse though and holding humanity back from the stars.

>>40657489
>Albania is no longer majority muslim and is becoming a christian country thankfully.
The trend I have read is not that Albanians are becoming more Christian but becoming irreligious or non-denominational, it is said that there are many Albanians believe in God but identify as neither Christian nor Muslim. It seems as well that Muslims and Christians in Albania agree on many things such as halting the advancement of LGBT rights.

>>40657506
>I agree materialism and consumerism have become out of hand phenomenons that need to be controlled.
thanks to you, christians. reagan was a christian. all the libertarian think tanks etc. shilling deregulation and unlimited sociopathic capitalism are christian.
you'll heroically pretend to fix the problem you yourselves caused.

>>40657480
A lot of that is absolutely bullshit and has been debunked by scholars.

Nobody has built more schiscles and educated more people than the catholic church.

I swear you take your talking points off Reddit rather than actually study history.

The protestants were even better than the Catholics in education for a time but then the catholics responded and did even better themselves.

Maybe actually watch some catholic youtubers who have thoroughly debunked your nonsense like trent horn.

>>40657534
>Public schools are dozens of times more likely to molest kids than a priest.
the teachers are christian. after all, #metoo is a leftist invention, nigger. you silenced victims since thousands of years without any qualms. you didn't believe that marital rape should be punished. you are the proof that there's no morality without inborn empathy and no amount of feigned religiosity will make you a good man.

>>40657545
>Nobody has built more schiscles and educated more people than the catholic church.
the catholic church had a violently enforced monopoly, retard. scholars were forced to be priests, regardless of whether they actually believed this bullshit. you murdered pagans and atheists. if the pagan romans persecuted you nearly as much as you did them, you wouldn't even exist today.

>>40657514
Atheists are having even less kids compared to the religious even at similar income levels and in the same countries.

Wherever you go on this planet, absolutely anywhere.
There is not a single place where atheists have replacement birth rates.

Every country on the planet the religious have more babies than the non religious by significant margins.

Cope lololololol

Atheism is the equivalent of cutting off your penis and shoving it into your own mouth.

Even religious trannies have a higher birth rate lololol

We can go to the stars and correct perpetual value and spread out.

There are ways to reuse resources and bring back more matter of value from asteroids and other planets.

Only the religious will lead us to that future and the atheists are slowing us down with their pathetic birth rate.

We need more people to make this happen and a vigor of civilization!!!!!!


You Beta males are a hindrance but the superior religious race will go to the stars and commune with God himself in the void;)

>>40657489
>There was great oppression of these groups at this time and they lived as second class citizens.
>Especially the jews got mistreated and many of them wrote about it in detail.
This happened in Europe as well. Luther famously wrote that Jews should be expelled if they refused to convert. England forced all Jews to leave and all Catholics were second-class. In Spain all Muslims and Jews were forced to leave after the Reconquista, even if they converted as the authorities suspected that conversion was insincere. Protestants were all slaughtered and exiled in France. Bohemia was a center of Protestantism but was forced to become Catholic by Austrians. Non-muslims were second class and viewed as inferior in Muslim realms, yes, but at least they could stay were they were rather than be forced to leave.

>>40656020
this is the sort of mental deficiency that comes about when your understanding of history begins at a religious text

>>40657537
There is data to see massive increases in christianity and irreligiosity.

Basically islam is bleeding and that's a good thing.

I probably prefer people to be atheist rather than muslim but that's only because I know the atheist problem will solve itself because they're weak beta males with small itty bitty clities.

Atheist women watch their wombs become like the sahara desert.

From what I understand they just don't want to go radical where they trans five year olds.

There could be some other issues.I'll admit but it's hard to tell nowadays with the radical marxist subversives.

>>40657565
>Only the religious will lead us to that future and the atheists are slowing us down with their pathetic birth rate.
the religious want apocalypse.
trump is killing american science and ruining economy.
the rich don't give a shit about future and just sadistically extract as much money from the poor as they can. you're their pathetic cuck they laught at. they know it's over and are building bunkers to shield themselves from angry masses once the copium runs out.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14314191/global-elite-Davos-high-class-escort-spills-beans.html

>>40657538
I mean reagan consulted weird pagan fortune telling witchcraft so I wouldn't exactly say he was a orthodox christian lololol

Also he was very negatively impacted by the atheist philosopher Ayn Rand as was much of the right wing.

This problem was brewing long before and began is in atheist circles.If you're going to be honest

Is atheists subvert and then point the finger and cry.

They are disgusting evil rats that need to be saved by the Dhrama or Jesus.

Anything is better than their sub human evil ideology of destroying everything that is good in humanity just to revel in the pleasure of watching it burn.

I know not all atheists are like that, but so many of them embody this at least subconsciously.

>>40656020
>The new testament acknowledges slavery as a reality at the time but it also goes out of its way to make it clear that all human beings are infinitely valuable and equal because they are made in the image of god.
Muslims also say this and most hate slavery today. That though the Quran mentions slaves and how to treat slaves, they never say it is ideal and that it is good to discard it today. Only jihadists like the Islamic State try saying that slavery is good. even Islamist political parties do not say slavery should come back.

How are you still arguing with this guy after all the lunatic posts in here

>>40657548
The vast majority of those public school teachers are no christan lolololol.

It's disproportionately a leftist occupation lol. Get the fuck out of here you dumb sub seventy IQ retard.

Leftists will rape like crazy and then accuse innocent people of what date themselves did.

I am proof that the religious see the bigger picture and they are your mortal and intellectual superior boy.

I'M TRYING TO GET YOU TO WAKE UP FROM THE CONDITIONING!!!

WAKE UP!!!!!!

WAKE UP AND FIGHT ISLAM BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE AND YOU'VE BEEN BLACKED IN THE SOUL!!!

YOU CAN CHANGE YOUR WAYS AND BE A HALF DECENT PERSON I SWEAR!!!

EVEN MORONS LIKE YOU CAN LEARN AND READ A BOOK!!!

>>40657606
It's just funny. Fellow has an incomplete grasp of English as well, which is funny since I'm a brownoid from the Philippines and I know better English.

>>40657564
Again more lies lololol

There were plenty of scholars and writers outside of the catholic church.

The catholics were just by far the greatest of all the scholars.

Weak small dicked atheists couldn't compete against their superior minds.

Persecutions of atheist and pagans happened rarely and have been greatly exaggerated by the jews

I quite like pagans actually.

They're a little whiny and some of them have bought into some b******* pedaled by the Jews, but they're still generally pretty all right.People and I hope to see some population growth there rather than in atheism.

They have problems with fertility but not as much as atheists.

I think there is something really valuable there and i'm excited to read the iliad and the odyssey soon.

>>40657617
kill yourself. you are unworthy of further discussion. hope the pain of being scammed will be the most unbearable for you when the bezosbot comes.

>>40657566
Okay I'm not gonna deny that it happened in Europe but it was often more justified in europe.

Plus jews often lived apart from the population rather than constantly getting their shit kicked in by muslims.

I will not deny that many atrocities happened tho.

The Reconquista was supremely based and a good thing.

Actually one of the most moral events in history when you pull back and look at it.

I feel like you're understanding a lot of these events has been completely compromised by modernity and sneaky subversive marxists.

In many cases muslims had the legal right to sleep in the bed of infidels and fuck their wives while they're in the other room.

Lots of crazy shit there.

A lot of these events are more complicated than your presenting.

>>40657579
My view of history comes from an objective analysis of the material conditions and actions of all groups within their particular contexts across time.

I'm sorry that your understanding of history comes from reddit.

It's okay to admit your intellectual inferiority.

>>40657591
The religious believe eventually there will be an end but we're gonna take our people to the stars first!!!!

God can do whatever he pleases and we will do our best to live good lives and make the world and soon to be the worlds a better place!!!

Trump is stopping us from getting screwed over by forcing other countries into favorable trade deals.

Cutting taxes to allow large scientific firms to push for new research and better products!!!!

We're not going to give out scientific welfare to corrupt government beta scientists.

Only the best of the best will earn the money in the free market!!!!

I agree that we should tax the rich more , but at least this way , we can terrible charge capitalism and try to race towards is technological innovations before the atheist's small penis birthday collapse happens.

We have less than a century before the global population implodes because of atheist degeneracy.

This article has no proof behind it and many of the rich are investing into a future of glory and will take us to the stars like elon.

Your mind is closed because you've never learned to think critically for even one moment in your entire life.

I pity you.

>>40657602
Overwhelmingly, the vast majority of Muslims I speak to claim slavery is based and should be reinstated.

Jesus never owned any slaves but mohammed bought and sold slaves in massive of amounts.

There are no declarations of universal human worth ever in the Quran.

The only people of anywhere are muslims not all of humanity like in christianity and other religions.

You don't understand how fundamentally different islam at its core.

When you study it deeper, you understand it is the greatest danger.Humanity faces in the modern day.

>>40657606
They are orgasming in their pants in anger and rage after realizing I'm completely correct but rejecting the truth out of their arrogance.

>>40657628
I was recently at the philippines lovely country.

Got to go to Catholic mass there, It was fantastic<3

Have you been going to mass anon?

>>40657635
I accept your surrender and acknowledgment of my intellectual superiority boy;)

The religious chads will continue to win:)

>>40657703
No, I have not been going to mass. I found myself dissatisfied with the Catholic Church and have been exploring other spiritual options. Last mass I attended was at a cathedral of the Philippine Independent Church, a member of the Anglican Communion which is considered a very progressive church which lets LGBT people be open and expressive and also allow female priests and recently had their first transwoman priest. I am still exploring other churches and possibilities, though. I considered the mainline protestant United Church of Christ in the Philippines, but I have not had time to explore recently. I still read sometimes, however, particularly some new age stuff like the Theosophical Society and neopaganism and esoteric stuff like gnosticism, sufism, and Vajrayana. University will start soon so I will probably have less time.

>>40656740
Jewish whores are the ones sucking these off, kike. Try again later.

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>>40657757
You know what this makes me really, really happy to hear I'm gonna be real with you.

Thank you for being a good example for the community by not falling into the degeneracy of atheism

You have a good heart and I really hope that you continue to find spiritual flourishing wherever you go

I recently got to visit where the buddha was born and where he reached enlightenment and it was one of the best trips in my entire life.

>>40657762
Jews are BUILT FOR BBC!!!

>>40657773
Thank you for your kindness. I agree with you on many things. I have a problem with many atheists and many atheist ways of thinking as well, but I do not agree that atheism is a Jewish conspiracy or leftist conspiracy, or that they want Muslims to rape the world, many atheists hate Muslims and want them to go away same as many Christians and many Jews hate Muslims. There are also many Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Sikhs, Hindus, and pagans that argue that Islam is not evil to its core and that there can be peace with them. Even the Catholic Vatican has proclaimed its sympathy for Islam with the declaration of Nostra aetate. There are rightist atheists and leftist atheists and I think it is incorrect and coming from a hateful place to say that they all have secretly evil motivations. I believe many atheists simply have their own journies and experiences and come to their own conclusions and there are also many that simply think the way do without critically analyzing their own beliefs. This is the same with religious people, some have their own journies and make their own conclusions and some just grow up not questioning their beliefs. I also do not agree that Islam is evil in its core. I believe that they have some good ideas, ideas like zakat and sufism. I believe that bad Muslims today started from the Wahabbi subversion started in the 19th century and continued by Saudi Arabia due to overreaction to western dominance and colonialism, but even Saudi Arabia no longer preaches Wahabbism. Islamism is failing in many other parts of the middle east including Iran with an impious youth. I do not agree that we will all go to the stars soon, such things are very expensive and impractical. It costs millions of dollars to send a simple rocket to space with no humans riding it. Living on the other planets sounds impractical as they are unfit for humans and will need to be terraformed or have bases which will also be very expensive.

>>40657773
>>40658018 (me)
I also have sympathies for Leftism and so I do not think it is evil. I have sympathies for their ideals of uplifting and protecting the poor and the tribal people living in the mountains and forests, and it is mostly rightists that advocate for their eviction or death in order to make way for logging and mining. I also disagree that the religious will simply unite against atheism and Islam. Many religious people hate each other. Many Catholics hate Protestants and vice versa; many Sikhs hate Hindus; many Hindus hate Christians and vice versa; many Buddhists hate Christians and vice versa, and the majority of the religious even in non-islamic countries disapprove of the idea of giving same-sex couples shared property rights through either a marriage or civil partnership, and it is mostly the irreligious who advocate for such things. When Pope Francis said same-sex couples could be blessed, there was a big backlash from many Catholics and many priests said that they will not do it even if the Pope said so. Many religious also disapprove of giving respect to transgender people or treating them as valid, and the main activists advocating for respect are the irreligious. Here in the Philippines, divorce is completely impossible with only annulment being allowed, and the Catholic Church wants to keep it that way. The majority of advocates for divorce are the impious and progressive religious groups are a minority.

>>40658018
Don't get me wrong I don't think it's simply jews pushing it.

However If you're looking at the originators who brought it into the public consciousness and we're the progenitors they're all must exclusively jews.

Could be a coincidence and plenty of other people pushed it as well but it's worth highlighting.

Atheists uniquely defend islam because.
They associate it with brown people and christianity as a white man's religion.

Because white equals bad so must christianity be while islam must be the greatest thing to ever grace the earth because it's brown.

Obviously, both religions are incredibly racially diverse across the planet but they don't really care they hate white people so much.

I think islam might be the only religion that I cannot get along with.

I love pretty much every other one except for islam and maybe some versions of judaism.

I think islam has something that sets it apart as uniquely sinister even if I can personally love muslims as people.

I even enjoy elements of the culture like muslim food from around the world or some of the rituals.

I'm afraid of it completely destroying europe.

I'm scared of its role in white genocide.

Over the course of my lifetime, it's oppression of white people will be something that cuts me deeply until death unless my people can rise up and save themselves.

Lastly, I recommend you look at how much less it costs.Now compared to even a decade ago to send a rocket into space.

Elon Musk's companies have reduced the price by millions of dollars and he's got a lot of competition to him and continuously we're seeing the prices to engage with space plummet.

>>40658115
Believe it or not there are some bits of leftism that I have sympathies with however it has complately become an ideology of spite.

I don't consider the ideals of protecting the poor or conservative tribal people as left wing ideals.

The left is about change so they can never conserve.

Change is sometimes necessary and good but they just can't get enough.

They'd never know when to stop.

And they have a burning hatred like that of a star against white people.

So many of them I have known personally where if you could present them a button to rape and kill every white person on the planet they would press it in a heart beat.

I know there are good leftists but I don't know where they are anymore.

It doesn't feel like they hear us, feels like an infinite distance and I keep reaching out never to touch one of their hands.

Protestant catholic infighting is nonexistent today comparatively to the past.

Same thing for the Dramic religions.

I think most religions are starting to come together to fight islam and even your occasional atheist.

Some atheists are even admitting that they should limit their own numbers and accept subservience to the other religions in order to stop Islam because they know they will destroy their own societies by pushing atheism and collapse the birth rate for islam to swoop in and take over.

I think those atheists are really virtuous even if they can't really be so within their own system they can be within mine.

>>40658115
Divorce is actually one of the things killing Western civilization and it's giving worse outcomes for children.

It might be one of the only things holding back the collapse of filipino birth rates.

Obviously it shouldn't be no fault divorce.

Plus I think it's incredibly honorable the philippines has banned abortion making them a moral super power among the nations of the world.

I'm actually kind of jealous.You live in a morally superior country to mine.

Your country is one of the few in the world that is preventing a yearly genocide sanctioned by the state.

Hold your head high.

>>40658210
>I don't consider the ideals of protecting the poor or conservative tribal people as left wing ideals.
You say this is so, and I agree somewhat, but it does not feel that way from what I see. Bolsonaro encouraged the destruction of the Amazon and the displacement of natives by mining and logging corporations, dismantling old proctions, and yet many right-wingers idolize him.

>>40658259
If i'm not mistaken those native groups have seen increases in their birthrates because of modern technology and especially among the ones that convert to evangelical christianity.

Some of the extra logging of the amazon though does disgust me.

However the rate of deforestation has dropped significantly over the last few decades.

We're also seeing major regrowth in some areas even if there are acknowledged ecological problems.

I feel like when speaking of right-wingers you have true conservatives and right wingers that are libertarian right.

Communists persecuted the religious and right wing people in general so naturally we found common cause with libertarians.

However they delivered us a poison pill.

Ayn Rand had massive effects on our intellectual thinking for the worst.

No single person is more responsible for our current economic mindset than her.

This was a woman who was pro abortion and anti religious...

Who literally contradicted the Gospels and held up selfishness as the highest virtue..

How the fuck did our prior leaders even pay her the least amount of attention..

It's so fucking frustrating.

She's like the antichrist of the conservative movement.

>>40658219
>Divorce is actually one of the things killing Western civilization and it's giving worse outcomes for children.
I do not agree. I believe that no divorce allowed traps both individuals and builds resentment and heightens potential for abuse. In the case where there is children, I partly agree, but I still argue that parents can cooperate and raise their child or children in a healthy manner while still divorced if there is no one at fault. If a gay man were to get married to a woman by mistake, he should be afforded the opportunity to find love with a man rather than stay stuck.
>It might be one of the only things holding back the collapse of filipino birth rates.
This nation is extremely crowded, with many living in slums, I do not see how growing forever is a good thing. Condoms are constantly advertised everywhere and one can buy them in every convenience store and we were taught their use in high school so clearly even the government has realized this.

>>40658423
Every major study shows that kids that stay in dysfunctional homes still do many many times better than kids do in single mother homes.

Single mother kids are more likely to be abused in numerous ways.

If you could see the data that supports the fact that single motherhood absolutely destroys is civilization and children?Would you change your mind?

That data exists and Andrew.Wilson has proven it definitively with peer reviewed meta analysis.

I want homosexual gays also not to have an easy out with no fualt full divorce.

Everyone should stay committed although although this is mostly a woman problem.

80 percent of divorces are filed by women and the overwhelming majority of them are not for serious abuse.

Please look into the data and watch andrew wilson talk about this.

They said the same thing in literally dozens of other countries who are now facing civilizational collapse because of their low birth rate.

I went to the Philippines It wasn't very crowded, not even in the capital city of manila which was quite lovely.

I will say I was surprised to see that one bridge that was built by the CCP near old manila and the amount of trash in your river there tho.

You guys need to watch to make sure your birth rate doesn't collapse.

I fear for filipinos to fall into that like so many others

Even iran is at collapsing birth rate status because now it's only like a forty percent muslim country.

>>40658550
Andrew Wilson seems like another impolite Christian nationalist anti-secular firebrand who hates gays, women, and trans people. He seems to dislike churches which argue for gay acceptance.

I don't care about western civilization and birthrates. I'm sorry but it's simply not my problem chud.

It feels good to live rent free in your stupid little heads lol
Keep being impotently butthurt about muslims and islam

>>40652148
Our conceptions of right and wrong come from greek and roman philosophy and heritage you retard.

>>40656794
True.

>>40657545
man lead levels in america are way too high

>>40660249
NTA, but from his other answers here from our little back-and-forth, he claims he is European and I am willing to believe him because of his less-than-ideal grasp on English.

>>40658660
He dosen't hate gays even if he is rough around the edges and kind of an asshole.

However, I'm not asking you to like him I'm asking you to look at the data he presents.

Definitely not asking you to agree on all things with the man just see the data he has on divorce.

I personally disagree with him on a lot but that data was compelling.

>>40658839
You will when you're getting raped by abdul anon:)

>>40659243
There have been valuable contributions from ancient greece and rome but no the majority of our morality definitely has its roots in christianity to a much higher extent.

In a way christianity civilized ancient greece and rome and brought them to a higher sophistichin in terms of compassion.

Those two cultures were never known for their compassion.

>>40660249
Lead water problems aren't actually that big of a deal in america.

I get it, you're jealous of my vast mind and feel jelly:)

>>40660307
My grasp of english is superior to yours little plebeian.

Muslims will end up raping you one day, the cause?

Your ignorance and fat juicy ass.

If only you worked on your mind instead of your fat booty BUILT for BIG RELIGIOUS COCK!!!!

Itt:
Christians murder transgender people in a gay panic, send their children to abusive conversion camps, believe their God has ordained them to destroy our environment, support unfettered capitalism and drone warfare, the westboro baptist church, planned parenthood terrorist bombings, steal and scam their fellow christians and preach prosperity gospel, rape children in their churches and cover it up
>woah WOAH that's not REAL christians bro I saw it youtube!!! the majority don't support that pls come on.
Meanwhile some teenager in a warzone in the middle east cuts someone's hand off in the name of Allah
I can't believe these disgusting evil muslims all as one support this. These brown people - I mean this religion - are innately violent AMINALS!!

>>40660543
Man, are you confusing. Muslims will not rape me, even the most deranged jihadist will probably just prefer to cut my head off or shoot me, then rape my mother. Also, these constant jokes about getting ass raped are starting to make me wonder if you're a goddamn porn addict.

>>40660543
This guy seems to have interesting thoughts to share and I reckon that you ought to have a chat with him.
>>40660483

>>40660578
You know that you're over exaggerating those problems with christianity by a thousand times over at least , and that you're under playing the savage brown muslims in their nigger savagery.

Come on goldberg we all see what you're doing.

It's not too late goldberg... You can embrace morality and stop lying as easily as you take a breath.

You can be good to your fellow human being and tell the truth for the first time in your life.

I pray that you come back to sanity and honesty mister goldberg<3

>>40660735
You're a victim of deception, they will also rape you.

I only speak the truth.

I have gone no fap and it's only increased the vastness of my mind.

>>40660751
No he seems to be a robotic puppet of the jews.

Easily manipulated and with no understanding of basic spirituality

>>40661064
tfw you didn't take your meds :)