Thread 40654549

Outsider/tourist here. I heard about some debate on rather Chris chan is really trans or not. I don't really know what to think about it. So I want some insight from transgender anons here since you guys actually lived through the experience. Sorry if I appear ignorant if I do, shit on me if I deserve it.

>>40654549 (OP)
real or not, I think it's pretty clear their lived experience is quite unique and different to everyone else on this planet

>>40654549 (OP)

I don't believe she's actually trans but since I'm not a mindreader and don't want to play respectability politics about people "earning" their pronouns or whatever slimy game people want to come up with to avoid having to acknowledge real trans people are their gender, I refer to her as a woman anyway. In case I'm wrong and because it's the considerate thing to do in a polite society.

I deeply despise her though what an embarassment

>>40654549 (OP)
I don’t know. Chris is a retard. It’s hard to say what is real with him and what isn’t.

>>40654549 (OP)
CWC explicitly said the only reason he transitioned was to expand his dating options to include lesbians
he is not trans, he does not get pronoun privileges, and his girl card is revoked

He's not even human is she

>>40654549 (OP)
Maybe. It doesn't really matter.

>>40654564
What is this kumbaya bullshit? This is not a pageant interviewer

>>40654897
you feeling okay there or took too much this evening?

>>40654549 (OP)
I literally actually do not know. Like I'm not an expert on CWC to begin with but I don't think so. It goes beyond even the most like, most cringe and fetishy trans people I've seen. This is catastrophic levels of autism that I don't know if we can truly say how real or fake any facet of their internal identity is. Don't even know if she went on hormones. Most people who are not transgender become pretty miserable on hormones and just from what I've heard I don't see CWC as someone who would live with their dick getting nuked. So that could be one metric I guess if we wanted to try and determine it.

I think most for most of us it makes us pause the HSTS or AGP shitflinging on whose "really" transgender because this one makes us stop and think like what the actual fuck is going on. If CWC is actually on hormones we just have to accept life is more absurd than ever thought possible.

Depends entirely what you mean by "really" transgender. Since there is no fixed definition of it and no way to prove anything.

>>40654549 (OP)
>Sex pest
>Autistic
>"Male lesbian"
Chris Chan isn't even an exceptional tranny. Fucking they're all like that. The only reason anyone says otherwise is he's already so famous for being a sex pest that it's bad tranny optics, otherwise you could go to any GDQ meetup, throw a brick and hit several Chris Chans.

>>40654920
Wait I will say as one last addendum I think ChrisChan is the most psyopped person in history and was genuinely gangstalked into further insanity beyond any initial mental illness they had. I don't like to think on them or research them that much because I don't want to contribute to what must feel like a panopticon for them.

>>40654923
I mean tell me exactly how Chris Chan is a fake tranny when we've got Deer Girl who is every bit as autistic, objectively a much worse human and abused a position of power to get Destiny banned

Or fucking Keffals

Or any number of absolutely reprehensible trannies

This is why you need sites like KF, these people are so crazy and authoritarian about removing the evidence of how crazy and authoritarian they are

>>40654549 (OP)
Blanchard's typology is the best, most scientific typology we have for categorizing transwomen.
HSTS: Feminine mannerisms, attraction to men, basically so gay he's a woman
AGP: Attraction to oneself as a woman. A form of autosexuality, a sexual targeting error that views the self as the target of desire rather than an other.

It pains me to say that Chris Chan is closer to AGP than HSTS, based on his obvious traits. While it's likely this is his typology of transgenderism, assuming he has it, he also present with a number of related and unrelated delusions. This dude pierced his taint, it got infected, and he though that meant he was growing a vagina. Currently thinks he is a goddess of a fictional world overlayed with our own, making him the goddess of the universe. These delusions are far flung from the HSTS vs AGP argument, showing Chris Chan has a whole other level of problems not related to his gender.

I am AGP Autosexual. Since 4 years old old wanted to be a girl, I dressed up and did other things to feel closer to femininity. I REALLY want to disown Chris, but I don't know for sure that he didn't feel the same way I did. He has however always exhibited cringe, a trait found in straights, gays, autohets and more. And his cringe is unforgivable.

>>40654549 (OP)
Chris Chan socially transitioned and is therefore transgender whether we like it or not. However, I don’t know if they have dysphoria (which would make them “trutrans”), that’s up to a psych to evaluate.

>>40654989
Stop spreading your pseudoscience. It's as real as the earth being flat.

>>40654920
apparently he is on hormones
>In 2015, he acquired Oestrogel, a hormone replacement therapy cream meant for post-menopausal women. It is meant to be prescription-only, but Chris got around the requirement to see a doctor by ordering it through Offshore Pharmacy
>At some point in Fall 2016, he finally went to a medical professional and was prescribed proper HRT. In his interview with CopperCab, Chris mentions he takes the testosterone blocker spironolactone, which he nicknames "Spyro the Dragon", and estradiol to assist in transitioning.
>Chris revealed in his March 2024 Livestream that he has been taking "Estradiol" and "spironolactone" (Aldactone), for "years".[5]

>>40654549 (OP)
chris chan is somebody who was mentally abused by proto-kiwitroons on SA and 4ch for years and went completely insane due to them constantly validating his delusions. this would have been completely avoided if the internet didnt latch onto him like a parasite, he would have been just another autistic loser

>>40654977
This would make minimal sense if 90% of kiwifarms wasnt faggots seething over random posts on tumblr/reddit because they deemed either the topic or the person "a woke sjw"

>>40656200
And their archiving still remains valuable.

He's not a real transsexual but he thinks he is. He tries to be. He's tried to be a lot of things, I expect. But his pathology is a thousand times more savage and more terrifying.

I find CWC so fascinating and terrifying at the same time, it has always puzzled ne how her experience is so similar to mine yet we ended up having such wildly different outcomes in life, it's like a parallel version of me or rather I am a twisted version of her, I'll never know and it'll always be intriguing.

>>40654977
I'm ok with kiwifarms. My problem is they put people's doxes front and center which encouraged harassment. Like sure it's free speech and shouldn't be censored but there's also no reason to put someone's dox on the OP of their thread other than making it easy for people to find them.

>>40654549 (OP)
I think Chrischan did it initially to show Barbara Chrischan was an independent person and it snowballed from there

>>40654549 (OP)
Trutrans, she literally grew a vagina by listening to binaural beats
Real talk tho i dont think the soul is gendered, but i think people can be more comfortable in a specific gender that can vary from what theyre born as. I think shes more comfortable as a woman but i dont know if thats because she likes her feminine side or if she did it as a response to the mental torture she endured.
im not a christorian but i think theyre too autistic to be shackled by the confines of gender. That being said if she was born female none of this would have happened.

>>40654549 (OP)
No lol. Smarter people than him have been memed into transmaxxing. He literally thought it'd make getting a woman easier because sympathy fucks. And it turns out he was right.

>>40656311
When that line was written they gatekept trannies for being feminine and attracted to men. AGP is literally Buffalo Bill.

>>40656687
If its possible to be memed into trooning out this proves there is no such thing as a gender identity - as does the existence of detransitioners

>>40654920
>This is catastrophic levels of autism that I don't know if we can truly say how real or fake any facet of their internal identity is
I loved the video where Chris said it was all a meme, was going to go get a job, and was going to go take care of mum, with happy ending music starting to play

>>40656753
The only thing this statement proves is that youre mentally deficient

>>40654792
>>40654923
>say 1 off handed crude joke 6 years ago
>go on to transition with hrt and fully change your name and docs
>continue living as a tranny even when not romantically successful
>everyone on the internet keeps bringing up that 1 joke as proof you're not trutrans
if saying you want to transition to date lesbians is enough to permanently exclude you from being trans, 95% of transbians and reddit troons are immediately excluded, as well as many bi troons.
christine exhibited signs of debilitating dysphoria for years, she has literally attempted self castration and has crossdressed since a decade ago.
yes christine is a person who has done horrible things, is probably a terrible person and is truly, irreparably mentally ill and sick; but she is ALSO trans who had a very incorrect image and understanding of trans people and queerness in no small part thanks to gangstalkers and internet trolls manipulating her and instilling bizarre concepts and understandings in her mind.
transness is not a moral quality and it doesn't make you a better or worse person. trans people can be shitty, they can be good; all the same as cis people. that doesn't make them any less trans. and as far as im concerned, cwc has done WAY more when it comes to transitioning than the average reddit/cord troon.

>>40656753
>t. John Money

>>40656116
What alternative is there? "I have the soul of a woman please believe me" ?? What is the mechanism?

I think she is trans and her haters are really ableist abusive people

>>40657517
>What is the mechanism?
People are born with intersex traits, why not an intersex brain?

>>40656679
I completely forgot about that thing and I was better that way, why did you have to remind me of it.

>>40657344
I have a few transgender friends and they have accused CWC and others of faking it or pretending

sorry if this is a terrible question, but what's the difference between pretending to transition and actually doing it? Is there something the "Real" ones do that the "Fake" ones don't do?
Or are they just distancing themselves from the ugly/annoying ones out of embarrassment?

>>40656295
>internet archive
>encyclopedia dramatica
>any form of site/media archiving

>>40657966
that's called being gay/lesbian