Thread 40658573

What the fuck is the actual purpose for MtF transition? Every part of your life becomes worse except for your looks and appearance (assuming you're young and actually lucky to pass). Whereas female dysphoria and FtM transition makes way more sense because it's an upgrade. Men are stronger, taller, smarter, charismatic, competitive, make more money, more autonomous and independent, celestial, mysterious, otherworldly. And all of the most revered and remembered people in history being men etc. That's why FtMs hate being women even if they were never directly traumatised by misogyny or other factors.

All non-sexual male dysphoria just boils down to becoming weaker and not wanting to be seen as a rape machine. The rest is about transitioning for fictitious dopamine like getting sexual gratification over being a woman or transitioning to fuck straight men.

I don't see myself ever detransitioning ot stopping estrogen because I'm dysphoric, I'm literally planning on getting FFS. But it just feels impossible to rationalise my transition at all.

>>40658573 (OP)
>What the fuck is the actual purpose for MtF transition?
enforcing gender roles - preventing men from being openly overtly feminine without being castrated

>>40658573 (OP)
>I don't see myself ever detransitioning ot stopping estrogen because I'm dysphoric
Well there you go. Gender dysphoria. It's not rational.

>>40658573 (OP)
>All non-sexual male dysphoria just boils down to becoming weaker and not wanting to be seen as a rape machine.
Sorry nonna, I wanted to be a girl at an age long before I understood those concepts

>>40658602
>Gender dysphoria
means you are experiencing peer pressure to conform to gender roles - but speaking out against WHICH SEX is actually trying to enforce gender roles is too taboo to do openly

>>40658612
That's not what gender dysphoria means retard

>>40658573 (OP)
You don't know any great women if this is what you think of the sexes. They have qualities of their own, qualities that aren't merely reaching to male heights, or whatever the heck ftm reppers tell themselves. Women are the subtle sex. Like rivers carve through mountains, their influence can be found but not always through immediate observation.

>>40658648
yes it does

>>40658612
Fuck your narrative. This is like TERFism but coming from a cis man. You can keep trying to tell trans women just to be content to be bearded men in dresses but it will always be fruitless.

>>40658652
men are not generally capable of seeing subtle stuff like that so it's not a surprise ftms are clueless
i am going to use ftms for my sexual needs and achieve greatness without them

>>40658742
society needs to allow men to be feminine without castrating them

>>40658573 (OP)
some people have actual dysphoria and don't do this shit as social hierarchy hack.

>>40658800
actual dysphoria just means an obsessive-overly anxious response to peer pressure about gender roles

it's ok for men to be feminine without castration

ok but what if I want to be a d*mb girl? what if I just want to be pretty and st*pid? did you schmink of that?

>>40658812
>men to be feminine without castration
I understand and agree with that but I'm not a man. or at least I wish I wasn't one and I'm trying to change that. to me that is the difference between GNC and trans people.

>>40658573 (OP)
>That's why FtMs hate being women even if they were never directly traumatised by misogyny or other factors.
FtMs have an upwards of 40% detransition rate and one of the biggest reasons for it is them unable to deal with the crushing loneliness and constant pressure to perform that comes with being a man. But yah assuming FtMs don't get fat or mega dose on 900ng/dL of testosterone they have a much easier time being hot asf

>>40658915
you are and always will be a man
throwing other men under the bus won't make females accept you

>>40658979
retard

>>40658602
Female dysphoria is rational, whereas male dysphoria things is just jealousy about women being sexy and pretty or whatever
>>40658606
Yea because gender dysphoria develops later
>>40658652
Female qualities are indirect, it's more that men are extremely influenced by women, and women are the driving force of men who do good or bad things
>>40658937
They're fembrained. Many of those detransitioners still complain about dysphoria after detransitioning, women are just less adapted to loneliness because they're more socially dependant on others and will see detrooning as a way to alleviate loneliness

>>40658573 (OP)
If all of this were true then way more cis women would be transitioning to make for the social "benefits" (there is no actual benefit to being trans in society) like terfs are claiming.