what kind of men are attracted to ftms?

>>40661347 (OP)
his only issue is that he's fat

Bro looks like MeatCanyon

>>40661347 (OP)
Why do trans guys always have the weirdest haircuts?

>>40661347 (OP)
None, really

Not if the poonah is too much like a hairy fat girl. We want pre-T para-women.

>>40661347 (OP)
Heterosexual misogynists, like myself

>>40661406
>>40661411
trans guys really got the shit end of the stick didn't they
i'm glad that mtf chasers want to forcefem me as hard as possible at least
i hope a new breed of hardcore forcemascing ftm chasers arises

>>40661442
>forcemascing
That's not a thing

>>40661449
>uwu zaddy, make me a man!!
Literally just abusing a transman and calling it "brotherhood"

what a fucking joke AFaBs are

>>40661449
It will be when I get my hands on some sad looking girl with mid length hair and an oversized hoodie. I know what you are handsome get over here.

>>40661442
>trans guys really got the shit end of the stick didn't they
nah, this is by design, the ones who actually transition aren't honestly interested in guys, they're just butches who want to feel special

>>40661462
>abusing a transman
????????

>>40661347 (OP)
Gay men who want the best of both worlds

>>40661481
You can't force anyone to be more masculine

>>40661347 (OP)
straight men as long as the pooner still looks like a woman

>>40661347 (OP)
Most people would fuck a FtM twink

>>40661481
>the ones who transition aren't actually men, they're women because i SAY SO
sybau

>>40661492
Yes you can by forcing them through increasingly harrowing experiences to man them up, followed by copious butthole sex. My favorite is forcing them to live in the woods for days at a time until the manly spirit burns within them.

>>40661499
call them men call them women just keep em away from me

>>40661498
so you agree with >>40661494 and >>40661406

>>40661347 (OP)
tomboy enjoyers

>>40661401
because they're women, and women are retarded

>>40661347 (OP)
pooners are only fuckable in the early stage where they look like teenaged boys. They are popular amongst twink/femboy enjoyers

>>40661401
dog that's one of the most normie "alternative haircuts" among men
it's just unkept

>>40661754
I mean, I'm just in it for the tomboy stuff
I don't understand why we have to call them "ftfemboy" besides their own insecurities of being a fake poonah

>>40661767
>alternative style
>men

Dog
Yo
The fuck kinda
WORLD
do you live in?

>>40661754
you mean to tell me that once they age out of that very short phase they end up being hairy unfuckable blobs that smell like tuna?

>>40661785
do you think alternative cis men dont exist??

>>40661767
Even for those retarded safe sleazy mullets that's wayyy too big

>>40661785
a bigger city in Poland?

>>40661796
>"men have such horrible difficult lives they're always forced to conform"
>"AN ALTERNATIVE CIS MAN? WHAT????"
the jokes write themselves

>>40661797
that's what i meant when I said unkept
ngl would fuck if not for dog ears and the height but godspeed to him

>>40661796
That's another thing every trans guy wants to become some sort of an alternative guy and never a normal one

>>40661818
Looks at the sides that's not unkept that's on purpose

>>40661796
Yeah, and they're suspiciously QUEER or just females in disguise, lmao

Men, the ones that like women, are terrified of adopting an alt style. They are the most battered into gender conformity to appease women and to appease men that are appeasing women through socialization of other men.

>>40661834
looks like 2+ months worth of hair growth, even 3

>>40661823
Because female socialization teaches you to be as prideful as possible about how fuckin valid but aggressively weird you are, if you aren't dragged into the Stacy clade of womanhood

>>40661823
Thats not really true and even if it was, it makes sense that ftms would be more willing to have experimental styles considering their existence is already outside of the “norm”. Not that much pressure to conform when you trying to be a man is already not conforming, and if they do it and still pass to the general public who cares?

>>40661823
I want to be one but I know iwnbam so I just hrt rep and stay a butch lesbian.

>>40661852
>never went to a barber

>>40661857
>Thats not really true
At this point you're just arguing in bad faith

>>40661838
Chicks love emo guys what kind of a cope is this
I think it's badass when a guy isn't afraid to be himself

>>40661823
idk man there's a big probability of me just looking like a manlety version of my father before he became hairy and fat

>>40661886
how old are you, out of curiosity?

>>40661879
There are pooners who dont dress alt, thats what i mean by that.

>>40661886
Chicks love tall guys
For them, they can "fem" it up a little to seem sensitive even if they're just male manipulators

>>40661896
26 why
I've been goth since my teens and just toned it down as i got older. Girls like it.

>>40661347 (OP)
FTMs have really pretty eyes and are short so that''s two great features

>>40661911
I have yet to see a trans guy online or irl who wore something actually simple like picrel. But looks like plain is not enough

>>40661937
God this is the worst type of men's fashion if trans men started dressing like that i'd stage a worldwide intervention
>t.mtf

>>40661937
i don't wear picrel because i am not dominican

>>40661937
Youve never seen an ftm in a shirt and jeans? I promise you they exist.

>>40661969
I am too european to get that reference

>>40661994
shhhh don't break his illusions

>>40661994
It will never be a plain shirt or jeans. Other completely oversized hiding their bodies or with some weird weeb prints on them

>>40661347 (OP)
>5'2"
oof

Human beings with thoughts and emotions and souls do not value themselves based off of whether other “people” want to stick their penises into them or not

Basically WHO GIVES A FUCK

But then again… anybody who ever posts on 4chan permanently loses their soul, including me

So let’s keep fighting forever because there’s nothing else <3 boys versus girls, straights versus gays, hate all the way down to the core for eternity, it’s all there is, it’s all there will ever be, and there’s nothing we can do to change it!

I think ftms insist on dressing all fucked up because they're scared of being confused for a cisbian since cisbians have been doing the "regular guy" outfit since forever. They figure "I'm going to get clocked anyway so I might as well advertise that I'm a gendergoblin so no one ma'ams me"

Hence why you will never see a ftm wearing just normal men's jeans, a button-front plaid shirt, normal ass sneakers, a patrick bateman or john f kennedy haircut. Nah. It always has to be black pants with studs on them and no shirt and a weird ass mullet/undercut monstrosity dyed in a random unnatural color and enough metal objects in their face to power the entire allied war effort in 1944 for 3 months

>>40661556
I love masculine features on FtMs but so long as it blends with, not destroy, their natural feminity. Bloat and hairy isn't hot. Pic related is fucking insanely hot

>>40661347 (OP)
None, if I'm looking for a guy then I want someone with a cock, plus they never act like men either. They still act exactly like a woman

>>40661823
>every trans guy wants to become some sort of an alternative guy and never a normal one
Because FtMs realize early into their transition that losing all of their immense female social benefits is not worth 100% calming their dysphoria. Being some fuckable alt twink allows them the best of both words - the majority of female benefits with dysphoria reduced

>>40662533
HOLY FUCKIN
PLAP

GET PREGNANT GET PREGNANT

The men attracted to me:
>Latino, black, indigenous American, and middle eastern men
>cis men that like ass and want to do anal
>cis men who are pansexual or bisexual
>cis men who want to go from enemies to lovers, but don't know they're doing it
>cis men with long hair who are over 6ft
>cis men who work manual labor jobs or solitary tech positions
>gamers
>cis men who are committed to alternative style
>cis men who know how to cook

>>40661838
>They are the most battered into gender conformity to appease women and to appease men that are appeasing women through socialization of other men.
I wish people said this more often. Male social norms are all about impressing froids. Can't dress alt nor let other people dress alt elsewise the entire neurotic normie women population will get the ick

>>40662629
I literally live in terror of being "a fag".
It stains you for life. Imagine being a low-Kinsey trannyfucker and having people learn you do things with AMaBs... grim...

>>40662533
>get fat and hairy to avoid chasers
Got it thank you anon

>>40662735
I WILL SHAVE YOU
THEN
THERE
WILL
BE
PLAP

THERE IS NO FUCKING ESCAPE

>>40662041
You must live somewhere cold. It was 90° today and I was wearing a black bike leotard and basketball shorts. I think summer gaydens here like button ups, undershirts, hawaiian shirts, and plain white tees.

>>40662735
I don't think you realize how much you're obliterating any chance at dating a good man by getting bloated and hairy. Stupid froids think cause they're desirable they'll always remain desirable

>>40662858
I'm straight, anon. I have no desire to date men.
But it's fun to make y'all get your panties in a twist anyway.

>>40662858
Nta you sound like you have never dated a cis guy

>>40662858
>>40662629
I know femoid and foid wtaf is a froid?

>>40662903
I'm just a retarded leaf frog and typed froid (cold in french) instead of foid

maybe it's just because I've been sinking 3+ hours into it everyday after work for the last week, but OP's pic immediately made me think of picrel

Me. I'm attracted to ftm.
t. Gayden

>>40661347 (OP)
gay men

>>40663592
lies

>>40663946
No... He's onto something. Let him cook.

>>40662858
idc much about being desirable to cis moids i prefer t4t anyways. total chasoid death btw

>>40663469
lets goon and suck on eachother bro!

>>40662533
so do you consider them men with nice femenine features or a woman? or something else?

im the slightly more feminine charmander to this guys charizard and this thread has done wonders for my self esteem.... is there any hope for me?

>>40662041
you probably just dont realize they're ftm bc theyre stealth and/or you're retarded

>>40665195
Just alt girls with weird hair growth and zippertitters

It's pretty funny.

“I knew i was a man from the moment I was born"
>as if men know about being men from birth and it's not just a societal framework they're conditioned into
"I want society to recognise I'm a true man"
>wants to avoid the shitty parts of how society treats men but still won't suggest the problem is with society or call it out, wants special treatment

And not a one of you even attempts to address any existing misandry you have even as you claim to be a guy, I can't fathom the self loathing that must inspire.

But what gets me, is most of you want to go digging around inside yourselves to cosmetically resemble men even though you have to give up a whole bunch of positives for that and earn a bunch of (in some cases arguable) negatives to fulfil your idea of what a man is.

What pushes it from sad to haha is that transhumanism philosophy existed before contemporary "trans" ideals and that if technology ever evolves to the point that people can change physical features like a video game avatar, where's that leave "trans" people? Do you not realise even if your ideals were somehow valid (which gender beyond a sociological construct heavily disputes) they'll become obsolete anyway.

So why is it so critical? Self loathing? Seems like that should be the the point of treatment. Not radical surgery and gender objectives.

>t. gender abolitionist socially defined as male

>>40667186
you sound like a whiny lil bitch

>>40667186
>gender abolitionist
>niggerbabble trying to psyop people into fitting in boxes they like because babble babble babble
ngl shouldn't have expected anything more from you retards

is a guy like this a top or bottom?

>>40667530
a top

>>40667530
probably top

>>40667186
Why do cis men attention seek like this?

>>40661347 (OP)
Straight men. I like skinny twink ftms, not pcos fatsos like your picrel tho.

>>40667564
>straight
gtfo faggot

>>40661411
Are you ogre?
>>40661442
Its only cause the more you look like women the easier it is for them to larp as straight, even when we all know that they are still gay. If a man likes ftm, its always straight, no amount of body hair would make it gay BUT people who do not know that the other guy is ftm would think of us as gay couple, a homos, and its not nice.
If a trans guy is willing to wear some trans pride patch everywhere he goes, he can look as masc as he wants, cause then everyone will know that its not gay and that we are a male and a female

>>40661406
Speak for yourself. I like a flat chest and deep voices

>>40661754
Real twink poons stop t once voice has dropped and top surgery is done. Getting best out of t. Bodyfat needs to be 10% to avoid feminine bodyfat

>>40661794
Why would they smell like tuna? Thats something that happens if you bacteria vaginosis, it needs antibiotics

>>40661823
Normal men are boring desu, they are scared of what other people think of them. Trannies do not have this problem

>>40667601
Cis men think being a "normal guy" is genuinely desirable

>>40661347 (OP)
>what kind of men are attracted to ftms?
Pooftas

>>40667518
Just sort of proving the point sport.
>>40667526
>fitting into boxes
Seemed to me more like it it was pointing out you're just switching boxes to be forced into when you can get rid of them entirely.
>>40667560
>seek attention
No, you're just assuming because that's what you do.

Also cis? No, I'm me. I don't know what it is to be a man, i just get called one and have a dick. Otherwise I'm just me, i do what suits me.

>>40667655
Why is a gay man giving opinions here

>>40667650
Cis men could also look so cute if they just tried different styles

>>40667683
>Writes a long post yapping on a message board
That's attention seeking. You sought attention. If you didn't want attention that would have stayed in your Google docs or note app.

>>40667683
>can get rid of them
but you aren't doing that. You just want to force people to not be able to change them

>>40667693
I'm not gay

>>40667703
Do you generally only put thought out questions on a note? You realise you can just ask people, right?
That was the point of putting it on a -forum-
Next time I'll be sure to use single syllable words so it doesn't intimidate you (that means scare)
>>40667711
Same way dumbos feather works. You don't need the boxes, you could fly all along.
You were born free of social constructs. You had them placed on you and you realised that wasn't working for you and that the box was stupid (kudos btw) but then you went and traded in that one for another. My initial preamble about the contradictions and misandry was to point out that the new box you traded for was as stupid as the old one. Different stupid, but still stupid. And worse, to get there you're going to fuck up a bunch of things that you could have got some benefit from. And no, not just to conform to the gender that parts are considered the basis of. But just basic shit.

Seems like one step forward and 2 steps back.

>>40667824
Your question doesn't make any sense to actual trannies. That's why someone said you were babbling.

>>40661498
>FTM twink
So a woman with short hair and no tits

>>40662629
Alt men exist and there are lots of women into alt men. If you really want to be alt why do you care about "normie" women? It's not like normalfag men don't hate and disparage alt women also.

>>40662735
>make yourself ugly to spite the chasers
at least you kept your female brain.....

>>40661347 (OP)
I am as a t4t gayden but i assume you are asking about cis men specifically

>>40661347 (OP)
I like virilized women, but that shit in OP is disgusting

>>40661347 (OP)
Im not a man but im kinda attracted to him desu

>>40661396
kek
looks less smelly tho

>>40662533
>angle-frauding to hide barrelhips
grim

>>40667942
Probably depends on how far into transition you want them to be

>>40668358
>they think sitting with your legs open is anglefrauding
It's obvious that person is trying to show off their hips. It's literally the center of the image... They even curved their torso to the side so the hips are given more flare

>>40661347 (OP)
me
>>40661396
so true, I wanna fuck meatcanyons hairy cunt
>>40662627
got 2, 3, 6, 7, 9

>>40667942
do I count? picrel

>>40669587
c'mon man have some self respect

>>40669593
sel respect is overrated

>>40669587
what a fucking twink

>>40669587
cute boy

>>40669587
Pretty cute

>>40667729
Yes you are

>>40669587
You need to shave then you are a twinky :3

>>40667942
I like deep voices also and male sex drive

>>40670590
I was gonna shave last week but I got overwhelmed with uni work ;-;