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Anonymous No.40661619 >>40661701 >>40661713 >>40661719 >>40661729 >>40661731 >>40661746 >>40661748 >>40662173 >>40662193 >>40662820 >>40663664 >>40664543 >>40664804 >>40665598 >>40667197 >>40667425 >>40667930 >>40670418 >>40670486
why
why are women with penises seen as erotic and men with vaginas as extremely disturbing?
Anonymous No.40661656
because homophobic taboo largely applies to men having sex with men, and so "women with penises" is seen as a way around homosexual taboo/prohibition (gay sex with plausible deniability that you were "attracted to their femininity") - but "men with vaginas" offers nothing you can't get otherwise without restriction
Anonymous No.40661701 >>40664804 >>40669772
>>40661619 (OP)
Feminization = good
Masculinization = bad

Welcome to 4th wave feminism
Anonymous No.40661713 >>40661733
>>40661619 (OP)
i don't know but i love ftms
Anonymous No.40661719 >>40661756 >>40661842 >>40661865 >>40662187
>>40661619 (OP)
in modern society;
men are typically straight. men like to look at feminine things. most men will be turned on despite genitalia if someone looks female enough. femininity is seen as submissive and subservient by default. a man who is feminine is seen by other men as a "woman" basically.
a trans girl is sexy because it's a woman but with a fun extra addition. a trans man is not sexy because it's taking away the only thing most women really care about physically in a man - most gay men also aren't attracted to masculinity alone, they need a dick attached.
schizobabble:
being a man is defined by the penis. being a woman is defined by how feminine/sexy/well-groomed you are.
in the 00s when men started to like wash their faces the term metrosexual was coined because it was seen as so bizarre for men to take care of themselves in a "womanly" way.
ergo someone born male who passes as a woman but keeps their penis is seen as sexy because the femininity outweighs the genitals.
someone born female who looks like a man but has no penis isn't seen as sexy because the masculinity doesn't outweigh the genitals.
there's also a lot of heterosexual/patriarchal belief that has persisted throughout history where the dick penetrates the vagina instead of the vagina swallowing the dick or whatever. it's complicated and not something that can be explained in a 4chan comment.
Anonymous No.40661729
>>40661619 (OP)
Anonymous No.40661731
>>40661619 (OP)
I wonder, is it better if a ftm takes it up the ass ? Or do they have to actually own a penis to be sexually attractive for people like you ? Same question for post op trans girls
Anonymous No.40661733 >>40661739
>>40661713
are we talking actual cuntmen or just girls with pixie cuts and no hrt and no surgery.
Anonymous No.40661739 >>40661740
>>40661733
the former
Anonymous No.40661740 >>40661759
>>40661739
BASED
go show ftmg some love
Anonymous No.40661746
>>40661619 (OP)
women with penises are also seen as extremely disturbing by everyone except the people who see the penis first and the woman second if at all
Anonymous No.40661748
>>40661619 (OP)
the form of barely-bisexual that is attracted to penises on trannies is rarely attracted to top surgery scars, early balding, and frog voice. try presenting a soft femboy and the same people will be attracted to the femboy as are attracted to the tranny
Anonymous No.40661756 >>40661775
>>40661719
so basically straight men are gynephilic, gay men and women are cocksexual?
Anonymous No.40661759 >>40661804
>>40661740
i'm ftm too
i'll never find my sweet pooner prince
Anonymous No.40661775 >>40661936 >>40667252
>>40661756
yes
most women are ok with strapons but from what ive seen gay men want a flesh and blood penis or else
Anonymous No.40661804 >>40661817 >>40661890
>>40661759
I feel that. It seems like every dood near me just wants a situationship with a penis boy. Its so over for dickless manlovers.
Anonymous No.40661815 >>40667252
Female body = form over function
Female genitalia = function over form
Male body = function over form
Male genitalia = form over function

A human males penis and a females body are both heavily tied to sexual selectivity as opposed to a human females vagina and a males body. It's mostly aesthetics and humans are very visually driven especially men, that's why porn involving trans women is more popular than people want to admit - it's not "a safe workaround for homosexuality" if anything it's more stigmatized and shamed than homosexuality.
Anonymous No.40661817 >>40661855
>>40661804
can we kiss?
Anonymous No.40661842 >>40661853
>>40661719
what happens if i was born with a pp but had it removed since i didn't need it
Anonymous No.40661853 >>40662135
>>40661842
then you're just a normal chick (assuming you're mtf). go and be stealth
Anonymous No.40661855 >>40661866
>>40661817
Thats my deepest shame, I’m not actually a real life vaginaboy, just a socially masculine feminized eunuch. Which means I don’t have a juicy fuckable poon or a dick so I’m just doomed…
Anonymous No.40661865 >>40661916
>>40661719
>most men will be turned on despite genitalia if someone looks female enough.
most men are NOT into trannies, nona
the dick is definitely a dealbreaker for the vast majority of them, even if you pass while wearing makeup and a mask lmao
Anonymous No.40661866 >>40661923
>>40661855
how does that happen?
Anonymous No.40661890 >>40661931
>>40661804
Detransition and be PLAPPED
FIGURE IT THE FUCK OUT
STOP POONING YOU DUMB FEMALES
Anonymous No.40661916 >>40661958 >>40667267
>>40661865
i think a lot of this is unironically transphobia. i have a bf who isn't "into trannies," he just sees me as a woman who got unlucky
Anonymous No.40661923 >>40661930
>>40661866
An increasingly bizarre sequence of medical abuse and trauma responses to the medical abuse. Way happier with my body like this but sad no one thinks its dateable because they are too close minded.
Anonymous No.40661930 >>40661951
>>40661923
i would date you
Anonymous No.40661931 >>40661939
>>40661890
Grab a rope and HANG YOURSELF
MAKE THE WORLD A BETTER PLACE
NOBODY LOVES YOU YOU FUCKING AUTIST
Anonymous No.40661936 >>40661977 >>40662006
>>40661775
i see but that doesn't really explain why nearly zero cis women (even less than gay men iirc) are willing to date a non-op trans woman, or is it just a meme?
Anonymous No.40661939 >>40661977
>>40661931
No no no
This will not do if you want a husband!!
Anonymous No.40661951 >>40661960
>>40661930
Yeah but you’re like probably 5000 million lightyears away in space turkey. All I want is a boy to love and hold and cherish…
Anonymous No.40661958 >>40661979 >>40662190
>>40661916
>he just sees me as a woman
no, he's gay and sees you as a way to hide your shared nature
he knows you will never admit to being gay out of shame (and thus risk betraying him)
Anonymous No.40661960 >>40661968
>>40661951
i am so lonely
where are you at?
Anonymous No.40661968 >>40661987
>>40661960
PNW usa
Anonymous No.40661977 >>40662007
>>40661939
nobody loves you and you will die alone anon
>>40661936
because most straight women don't find femininity sexy, they like masculinity
Anonymous No.40661979
>>40661958
honestly the truth of it is that we started dating in high school before he internalized society's transphobic brainworms. im familiar with the type of guy you're talking about though
Anonymous No.40661987 >>40661992
>>40661968
good news!
you are only 1500 miles away
Anonymous No.40661992 >>40662008
>>40661987
Rip…… so over……..
Anonymous No.40662006 >>40662574
>>40661936
The women who like other women generally like the taste of pussy, and a strap on can be removed. Ive heard youngshits have less trouble getting girls
Anonymous No.40662007 >>40662030
>>40661977
>nobody loves you and you will die alone anon
LOL
but enough about you!
Anonymous No.40662008 >>40662023
>>40661992
>tfw iwn lovingly plap a dickless boy
Anonymous No.40662023 >>40662032 >>40662161
>>40662008
I NEED tomboy cunt as well
I fucking hate how they made tomboys illegal and now you have to call them "man" or "he" and shit
Anonymous No.40662030 >>40662170
>>40662007
is this seriously the best comeback you could muster
Anonymous No.40662032
>>40662023
uhhhh okay....
Anonymous No.40662135
>>40661853
okay that's basically what i do
i don't really think about trans things except on this board
Anonymous No.40662161
>>40662023
how tomboy enjoyers look when real bara lovers come at them
Anonymous No.40662170 >>40662217
>>40662030
If I could simply shave and plap you, neither of us would have to suffer <3
Anonymous No.40662173
>>40661619 (OP)
Both are abhorrent
Anonymous No.40662187 >>40667293
>>40661719
this, you can fuck a tranny like a woman but ftms struggle to fuck like men. also beauty standards tend to favor tall and bony which is more common in troons but short (top) men aren't really a chased group
Anonymous No.40662190
>>40661958
>this is what you feel inside because I said so
1 minute alone with this anon please
Anonymous No.40662193 >>40662208
>>40661619 (OP)
>why are women with penises seen as erotic
Only to closeted homosexual men and bisexual men with penis fetishes. Tranny porn does nothing for me personally, and my brain deciphers it as 2 men having gay sex together.
Anonymous No.40662208 >>40662277
>>40662193
Letters?
Anonymous No.40662217 >>40662231
>>40662170
So anon. What's preventing you from dating a cis woman?
Could it be that they run for the hills when you open your mouth? Or are you simply scared of them so all you can do is punch down on a group you deem weaker?
Tell me, please. I'm curious.
Anonymous No.40662231 >>40662262
>>40662217
I just like slightly more male-brained foids
Usually more accountable and have fun geek interests
Anonymous No.40662262 >>40662280 >>40662298
>>40662231
That's nice. Why are you desperate to force-feminize these men, then? If you like them for their male brains you should be working on making them manlier, no?
Anonymous No.40662277 >>40662286 >>40662292
>>40662208
P, h, and D
Anonymous No.40662280
>>40662262
because dating estrogenized men makes closeted gay men feel less guilty for dating other men
Anonymous No.40662286
>>40662277
pretty huge dick?
Anonymous No.40662292
>>40662277
interesting way to spell coward
Anonymous No.40662298 >>40662341 >>40662708
>>40662262
The brain, not the body. That's the goal.
I just want tomboys to be legal again without women jabbing themselves with gross T shots and THEN LISTEN TO THEM COMPLAIN about how lonely they are after they took ugly juice and put in their body, voluntarily.

It's like, yeah, duh
Welcome to hell
Flux !!WbykBJIjh1Q No.40662341 >>40662366
>>40662298
>"tomboys to be legal"
>picrel
Anonymous No.40662366 >>40662371
>>40662341
Go jerk your clitty, Flux

People think men like tomboys for fashion choices but it's actually the same appeal as action heroines have on people, not the fact they choose a cargo jacket or whatever as their primary clothing item.
Flux !!WbykBJIjh1Q No.40662371
>>40662366
>go jerk your clitty
that's a new one lmao
Anonymous No.40662574
>>40662006
i see
Anonymous No.40662708 >>40662730 >>40662744
>>40662298
Anon… those are lesbians before T…
Anonymous No.40662730 >>40662744
>>40662708
these guys cant even comprehend ftms existing. you think lesbians make sense to them?
Anonymous No.40662744 >>40662753 >>40662856
>>40662730
>>40662708
Lesbians aren't even real 89% of the time.
They play tuff boi spookyfashion to repel males because they're scared of the plap.
My friend had to fight off a "lesbian" who wanted him to plap her and take her dickginity.

Lesbianism is a trauma cope + Queer credit scheme and poonerism similarly so.
Anonymous No.40662753 >>40662842
>>40662744
sometimes i get worried i'm retarded
then i see people like you
and i realise i'm actually alright
Anonymous No.40662820 >>40663296 >>40667316
>>40661619 (OP)
I'd rate the latter as the worst of both worlds. Women have the attractive body, men have the attractive genitals. Mating the two together means you have a slightly more exotic woman which a lot of people can get behind (If she's gorgeous). The body of a man with the genitals of a woman is just fucking awful. Pussy isn't even attractive on women, its just that women are attractive in spite of it.
Anonymous No.40662842 >>40663208 >>40663248 >>40663289
>>40662753
Tell me how many women have "tried" lesbianism and where they end up

Please
Anonymous No.40662856 >>40663208
>>40662744
lesbians are real 100% of the time
Anonymous No.40663208 >>40663300
>>40662842
on a relationship with a dominant dimorphic man
>>40662856
real cocksluts, yeah
Anonymous No.40663248
>>40662842
I was a lesbian and now I'm a straight man
Dont know if that counts though
Anonymous No.40663289
>>40662842
I'm a lesbian. Have been a lesbian my whole life and never been attracted to men.
Anonymous No.40663296
>>40662820
People are just going to ignore logic because it causes dissonance with their headcanon.
Anonymous No.40663300 >>40663513 >>40663572
>>40663208
lesbians repressing and dating men is proof of comp het - not of fake lesbians
Anonymous No.40663513
>>40663300
the concept of comphet is used to cope with their hopeless androphilia more often than not
Anonymous No.40663572 >>40663583
>>40663300
But... they still date and take penis in their vagina.

It means they don't really care which sex it is they're having sex with. Blaming "comp het" for fake lesbianism is a joke compared to how this doesn't happen to males. They don't waffle whom they like for 20+ years and then go hetero. Male gays are actually gay. They can be gay now and that's basically what they are and do.
Anonymous No.40663583
>>40663572
because society treats them like garbage if they don't
gay men marry women and have kids with those women
this isn't just a woman thing - you just only see women as people so you don't scrutinize the behavior of men
Anonymous No.40663664 >>40664260
>>40661619 (OP)
Cuntboys are hot though and trannies do nothing for me.
Anonymous No.40664260
>>40663664
how?
Anonymous No.40664543
>>40661619 (OP)
>why are women with penises seen as erotic and men with vaginas as extremely disturbing?
Misandry.
Anonymous No.40664804
>>40661619 (OP)
because women are seen as erotic objects and men aren't
>>40661701
its actually the other way around
Anonymous No.40665598
>>40661619 (OP)
Castration anxiety.
Anonymous No.40665681
Hot women are arousing, penises also cause arousal due to a subconscious sperm competition instinct. Trans women are unintentionally hacking our brains and getting mad at us for it.
Anonymous No.40667197 >>40669682
>>40661619 (OP)
I love ftm twinks. Cute boy who can give you everything that a cis woman can plus male sex drive from testosterone. I would never date a cis fag, I need pussy
Anonymous No.40667252 >>40667420
>>40661775
Cis lesbians are pussy sexuals and would rather date a trans man than a trans woman so your argument does not really hold
>>40661815
It is homosexualty cause trans women in porn look very male and about 40% of cis males are bisexual. Trans women let men pretend that they are still straight, thats the allure of trans women in porn. Now that public opinion is shifted on trannies, that pretending is alot harder.

And the thing is that only males like penis. If you search what kind of porn women watch its just all sorts of lesbian porn and trans men scissoring before any male genitalia even comes up. Women don't really like males.
Anonymous No.40667267
>>40661916
I knew a couple like this. After trans woman got srs the man left her and started dating another pre op trans woman.. doubt your man really likes women
Anonymous No.40667293
>>40662187
Short/tiny bottoms are specially valued tho. Tiny person = tiny holes
Anonymous No.40667316 >>40667320
>>40662820
Thats just gay desu
Anonymous No.40667320 >>40667805
>>40667316
Well, it's a GAMP thing. Trannies are frequently AGAMP and their chasers are GAMP as well.
The frequent chaser -> tranny pipeline happens because if you have GAMP, you could EASILY develop a need for AGAMP.
Anonymous No.40667420 >>40667797
>>40667252
>Women don't really like males
then why less than 1% of them are lesbian?
Anonymous No.40667425
>>40661619 (OP)
because straight men are attracted to penises
Anonymous No.40667797 >>40669669
>>40667420
87% of cis women are lesbians. All studies about female sexuality come to conclusion that women greatly prefer women sexually.
Anonymous No.40667805
>>40667320
Okey, makes sense
Anonymous No.40667810
As a straight cis woman, i can only orgasm if I am thinking of other cis females or trans men with vagina (this takes longer than with cis women tho)
And talking to other women, many of them seem to be like me, its common
Anonymous No.40667930
>>40661619 (OP)
men are seen as repulsive in most contexts culturally
Anonymous No.40669669 >>40670526
>>40667797
and yet they rarely, if ever, date women
Anonymous No.40669682
>>40667197
:3
Anonymous No.40669772
>>40661701
Feminism?? This is entirely the product of straight men bro
Anonymous No.40670418 >>40670539
>>40661619 (OP)
Because men have already been female in the womb but females have always been females so to try and be something more is wrong and unnatural
gloves !!8pX315gWOU/ No.40670486
>>40661619 (OP)
i don't see genital preferences as a reason to judge someone seeing as if i had to fuck anyone they'd have a vagina 100% of the time
Anonymous No.40670526 >>40671032
>>40669669
Women x women relationships are homosexual. When a woman dates a man, man provides and gives women free kids and children. Women use men. Other women are not slaves to pussy so women cannot manipulate them.

As soon as women can have babies with other women, the tables turn.
Anonymous No.40670539
>>40670418
You have never been female if you have xy chromosomes, the shape that people start with is not woman or a man
Anonymous No.40671032
>>40670526
that makes no sense