Thread 40685746

Why arent you friends with cis women, nona?

>>40685746 (OP)
theyre annoying unless if they have autism

>>40685746 (OP)
Most (99.99%) cis women are the bane of the earth

>>40685746 (OP)
None want to be friends with me

>>40685746 (OP)
i do hang out with cis women but they're low key boring i prefer trans women

>>40685746 (OP)
i dont pass so they see me as a sex pest even if they dont outright say it

as a transamorous straight cis male, i would have a lot of trouble befriending or dating a trans woman who has no friends that are cis women

i do have cis women as friends, more than a handful. they’re just like us

>>40685746 (OP)
the more cis women I know the more misogynistic I become

>>40685746 (OP)
im scared of them because i feel like a man in comparison and like they can easily tell. idk i feel like they will see me as a man if i break stealth and i don't know how to make friends without being personal with people. also most of them are way shorter than me and make me feel like an ogre

>>40685746 (OP)
literally all of my female friends are cis?
this makes no sense
actually everyone i know except for one transgender man is cis
>>40685877
most people are taller than me

90% of my friends are cis women and it kinda sucks, but because they are normies, not cis. Haven't really learned much so far desu.

>>40685896
>most people are taller than me
okay? how does that effect you?

>>40685746 (OP)
most of my friends are cis women

>>40685915
it makes me feel like a child sometimes
i wish i could be taller

>>40685915
Are you illiterate? They are a copehon hussie who is trying to come off as a passoid

>>40685933
what re you talking about
i am a girl

>>40685746 (OP)
I dropped/got dropped by all my old "friends" (people who tolerated me and didn't want me around then lied to my face about it even while they were all doing things with each other to my exlcusion) and I've only really connected with trannies in the year since

>>40685942
Oh my bad maybe ur just autistic or smthn then

>>40685962
i already told you i do not have autism

>>40685930
i felt that way before i grew. now i feel like an inhuman monster who scares every cis woman who sees me
>>40685933
>are you illiterate
i was trying to figure out why she bothered to respond to my post

>>40685966
You do. There's no other explanation other than retardation but I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt.
>>40685969
What other reason would they have

>>40685979
idk i guess i wanted to hope it was more than a cheap dunk/humblebrag

>>40685969
i don't think it is scary to be tall
i responded because you mentioned how many women are shorter than you but it is worse the other way around because i feel like i am a child
>>40685979
i am not retarded either. i am a normal girl

>>40685746 (OP)
i was primarily friends with cis women from 18-26, but a lot of my friendships have fizzled out.

>>40685984
Never assume ignorance where malice could explain it.

>>40685746 (OP)
all of my two friends are cis women. very autistic too in the dysfunctional way

I had cis friends but they would just use me for rides so i made a rule where they require their own car

>>40685746 (OP)
To be honest cis women are more transphobic than cis men. It's more subtle, but it's in every sentence.

>>40685746 (OP)
i dont even hang out with trans women
i dont know how to make friends

>>40686206
same, i can never get past acquaintance because i can never tell if someone is just putting up with me or actually wants to talk to me

>>40686261
real

>>40685746 (OP)
cisoids are toxic af and when they're bf/husband thinks you are remotely attractive and passable its over

>>40685746 (OP)
I don't have any friends

white foids are the blandest people alive and i dont associate with niggers

>>40685754
This, I only hang out with autistic people

>>40685746 (OP)
i have 2 cis female friends but out personalities are like night and day. fembrained VS malebrained me.

our ways of thinking are like completely different, their interests are completely different. i can't really get cis women, even the autistic ones. im too terminally malebrained

>>40685746 (OP)
theyre either annoying AGPs or want to murder us every time

>>40686395
>terminally malebrained
there's no cure for us

i don't wanna be a creep and i don't like most of them

>>40685746 (OP)
everyone i know is cis and 80% are women. why wouldnt i hang out with cis women??

>>40686571
sometimes i legitimately wonder if it's because our brains are different or if it's because we go down different life paths and learn to process the world in different ways. would much rather it is the latter since that would mean malebrained is curable. but in practice ive really ever seen someone go from having a malebrained personality to a fembrained personality

>>40685746 (OP)
I used to hang out with a work friend but I just worry that most cis women don’t see me as a woman if I tell them I’m trans and it’s something that I want them to know about in order to have a deeper connection. Plus most of them are so much prettier than me even if I pass so I just feel like the ugly friend

I prefer to hangout with gay men bc they’re the most fun and do stuff with me

>>40687074
imo i think its both. Its something we are born with but also heavily influenced through reinforced conditioning to be like those around you into liking male interests. But then HSTS dont have any of this

>>40685746 (OP)
most of my friends r cis women, my only trans girl friend lives like 2 hours away and i see her like once every couple months. mb its just bc im crazy but they're actually just ppl too, some women i want to be friends, some of them i dont as much---just as w trans ppl. surrounding yourself w just one kind of person is kinda weird a red flag ngl

>>40687140
well it kinda is something that is taught during very early childhood to guys and most fembrained trannies tend to be those who had a deviated early life trajectory. malebrained is reinforced by teachers your parents, who treat you differently and make sure your concept of yourself is masculine and center yourlife around those masculine interests, or in schools where kids learn the social differences between girls and boys and first feel the pressure to fit into their respective group, even by teachers who reinforce these behaviors often. 18 years of this does a lot to an mf.

id say id attribute 99% of my malebrainedness to my mom. she taught me to look down on people, she taught me that emotionally vulnerability is weakness and mocks those who are emotionally vulnerable, and she taught me that trying to care about your presentation and fitting in with other people is completely useless.

>>40687253
oh and she also often mocked trannies and feminine men and also feminine women. she thought anyone acting feminine was annoying. so now i do too. even tho im a tranny

>>40685746 (OP)
It's usually the cis women rejecting trans women, not the other way around.

>>40687315
exactly. i didnt choose to be around trannies. trannies chose me. cis women have 0% interest in me

>>40685746 (OP)
i hang out with one religious schizophrenic cis girl and we get along very very well, its a blast i highly reccomend.

>>40687376
is her name sarah by any chance

>>40687394
nope, but that is a pretty good name for a schizo christian girl.

>>40687426
wouldn't u know

>>40687445
:)

>>40687074
Every atom of our bodies and existences are different

>>40685873
I was always told it's just because of what women in my family are like, and that i need to talk to more women, but it makes it worse.

>>40687253
mine came from being bullied and homosexuality being heavily frowned

>>40685746 (OP)
I hang out with cis girls but to be honest they're the craziest people I know. Trans and guys are the stable normal ones. Cisoid fems act like ego maniacs. Like all of the cis women I know are Karen's. It's sad, but I need cis girls for pointers and whatnot.

>>40685746 (OP)
I've got great friendships with both women and gay men, and my friendships with women are by far my deepest. I also have like 2 cishet men I'd trust with my life, but most cishet friends I had before dropped me. Oh well their loss lol

All my cisf friends were transphobic lol was i supposed to stick with assholes

friends?

>>40685746 (OP)
I am though and I have no tranny friends

>>40688204
I have one friend
It’s extremely depressing
I hope you are doing well anon thankfully I’m not a tranny but I just saw this and it made me sad

>>40688236
Thanks for such kind words. I also wish you're doing well anon. A human being somewhere in the world hopes you do well. I will never meet you, but be assured I sincerely hope you do well

>>40685746 (OP)
women are fucking annoying
its why im non binary now

>>40685746 (OP)
Cis women are just the nepobabies of womanhood. They genuinely have nothing to say or teach about gender that has any value, and ironically this goes doubly hard for theyfabs.

>>40685746 (OP)
they are fake people, they pretend to believe one thing while actually believing the other
cis women have no balls, they do not have morals, they are subservient to men
i am not, so i do not wish to interact with them, they can go have fun with their daycare job while i live in the real world

>>40685746 (OP)
What is with these <2 years HRT trannies who try and virtue signal about being 'the best tranny' lmao. Most, if not all, trans women I know have plenty of cis female friends. Who is she even talking about?

>>40685907
This. The normie problem is why i stopped caring about having friends, men or women. They're just so conventionally boring and clueless, and become rude really quick about anything outside a small box.

>>40685746 (OP)
i dont connect well with most cis women
this person is retarded

>>40689798
she's talking about me
>0 cis woman friends
>0 irl friends except bf
>7 years of girlmodd

>>40687278
You sure she isn't a repper herself? That just sounds like ftm repper cope

Autistic cis women are cool but normie cis women are terrifying, I guess it's just natural for the high value women to bully the low value ones, so as a low value woman I only hangout with low value women like autists and trannies

I'm a black gayden lol and white cis women have hated me since day 1. They used to treat me like a trans woman (trying to get me kicked out of bathrooms and removed from gym class girl's team). If they're white they will try to cry and make people think I'm doing something bad so I get teamed up on. Nowadays I purposely sexually harass them as reparations.

>>40690780
That's essentially what OP is implying but if you spell it out they will accuse you of being an incel lol

around 50% of the time im kicking back with new cis women they try to rope me into saying i dont like men or talking about men and it makes me uncomfortable

>>40690807
I'm an actual misandrist, like straight up want to take all rights from men and slave them, but most women's trash talking about men is just performative and thus annoys me. Mfs will say they hate men and then get married to an abusive one the next day, bunch of posers

I don't pass so I'm just an awkward subhuman to them

>>40690780
I wouldn't consider them high value if that implies never developing a personality, sounds more like skank behavior.

Reading through these comments, it's very obvious that many of you are just trying to be better women to the world than your mothers were to you, and while I'm not implying that invalidates your transition or anything, I'm begging you to heal

>>40691126
give a few examples from this thread

because they're bullies

>>40685746 (OP)
wow yall just fucking hate women lmao
i'm mostly friends with cis women (plus a few cis men) IRL and it's lovely and I love having friends I really connect with. They keep forgetting I'm trans even though i'm not a passoid so maybe i'm just unusually female souled or something idk
but i love my cisf friends and i love hanging out with them and talking with them and i love my old roommate who I was best friends with and also my current fiancee who I share everything with. I was always the one guy in girl friend groups pre-transition too. I guess it's just down to how much I take after my mom, plus the fact that my childhood best friend was a girl. But reading yalls takes here feels so fucking weird lol

>>40691077
I'm talking about societally assigned value, not some kind of supposed "objective" value. In our society autistic women, ugly women and trannies are clearly at the bottom and the women are the top are very aware of this even if they are subtle about bullying us. Female solidarity is a lie

>>40690856
youre a man? Fuck off

>>40691135
Basically everyone who has written how much they hate cis women. Several of them have admitted to having mommy issues further down in their posts too.

how can you be more emotionally intelligent when you're average aptitude is lower? if you don't understand where they're coming from or the magnitude of the situation then you can't properly empathize with them. you can only act in bad faith as you assume you know or get it when you don't.

weaponized incompetence does not make you more in touch with your emotions. women think because they enjoy gossipping more than men like the real housewives of atlantis that it somehow means they're more emotionally intelligent. no it means you're an asshole that can't mind your own business. it's like you have nothing of value to discuss or bring to the table so you have to talk shit about eachother like it's mean girls.

you're not more in touch with your emotions when the stereotype is you lose control of them once a month when you get your period. if you can't manage your emotions, then you're more emotionally intelligent.

fuckin' cunts.

>>40691162
Women at the top*. Anyways I don't actually oppose the social order I know I'm worthless and deserve to be at the bottom but the women at the top shouldn't expect me to be their token ugly friend, just let me cry by myself in peace

>>40691195
this.
i'm not your dog, bitch.

>>40685746 (OP)
When people don't own their own house , I think they are missing out on a really emotionally rich part of life, cuz tf you mean you don't have anything to learn, gain, be enriched by, etc from owning a home?!!

>>40689677
lmao
>my gender is different because I'm a sexist neurodivergent!!
PEAK woman moment

Tbh even in the super rare case of a cis woman truly seeing me like a woman being her friend will still hurt, hanging out with cis women will inherently bring lots of reminders that I'm a freak. They will talk about things that I will never get to experience like having children, having good careers, getting married, etc like they are basic milestones. Isolating myself from them is just protecting my mind from ropefuel

>>40691260
Not that isolation works I still need to go outside once in a while and see the non-faulty women living in a completely different world that I could never be part of, I'll always break into tears the moment I get home and regret not having bought a rope before getting back. The only thing anyone could do to help me at this point would be to euthanize me and incinerate me

>>40691152
Unfortunately you likely meet a lot of "just right" criteria for you to be accepted.

>>40691126
>trying to be better women to the world than your mothers were to you
How the fuck is this anywhere close to an issue? Is being a good person as a woman social suicide or something? That makes me think even less of women that you would even imply that.

>>40691219
you get it

>>40691311
i mean, i might? i don't know what those criteria are though, i'm a bi tranny who's ever really dated girls, I have kinda stereotypical tranny interests, hell I work as a programmer. I guess the things ppl usually say they like about me are my sense of humor and personality, as well as the things I talk about. I get asked to share rooms when on a trip, new ppl often pick me out of a group to be the one they cling to while they get to know everyone else, I'm just that kind of person somehow.

One male friend's new clinical psychologist gf pulled me aside when we first met and asked me to review her bf for her because, i quote, "you seem like the kind of person who chooses their friends carefully and meticulously, and you seem to let him in where you keep most others out, so I trust you with this". I don't know if that's true, but it's apparently the vibe i give off.

>>40691438
>you seem like the kind of person who chooses their friends carefully and meticulously
That could be it right there
A lot of us are autists and just accept weird behavior because we either give the benefit of the doubt or can't recognize it fully.

>>40691319
Did I say it was an issue? What I'm saying is that there are a lot of unresolved feelings that should be tackled ALONG with being a better woman than your mother

>>40691508
Why should I forgive women for being evil? I'm honestly glad my mother showed me the depravity of the female race so early in life. I see so many others waste decades of their life trying to appease them or get them to behave morally. I can and will be better than that and I don't have to let filth make excuses for themselves while I do it.

>>40685746 (OP)
don't want them to talk shit about me and spread rumours behind my back.
>that's a sexist stereotype!
but it's true and i don't know how to weed people like this out

>>40691707
All women do this to women who they see as inferior you just have to stop being inferior to the women you hangout with
>t. Inferior woman that only hangs out with equally or more inferior women to prevent this issue

>>40685746 (OP)
unreasonable levels of jealousy make it hard to maintain friendships and girls don't deserve that so I just avoid them the best I can.

>>40691718
it seems like it's partly part of their culture though, like, "i just needed to vent about it" and then they're friends again. i think everyone does it to everyone else in those groups. it's just that as a tranny this can much more easily go off the rails, where if i fuck up a little i'm suddenly labelled a filthy rapist moid and ejected from the group entirely. i'm worried i'll only ever have a temporary pass, even if it's with autists.
my experience with women is them either treating me like a poor little retard or as a potential sexual partner / dangerous rapist. it's hard to believe i could just be treated normally, unless i'm playing a character like the gay best friend and censoring 70% of what i want to say.

>>40691812
Well obviously if you don't pass they'll treat you as subhuman, trannies will never be seen as human, maybe if you pass some can see you as human after finding out but as a hon nah just give up

>>40691707
This happened to me. I was vaguely friendly with my co-worker, not even friends, and she started making up nicknames behind my back. Like what the fuck did I do to you bitch? I'm not even trans.

Why are w*men like this?

>>40691195
You may not oppose it but it's still a monkey thing. If they really were high value they wouldn't be miserable enough to bully people. I would describe it more as a crab bucket.

I'm afraid of cis women

>>40685746 (OP)
i look male and am currently friends with cisgender women

>>40691438
>i'm a bi tranny who's ever really dated girls
well that explains it. they dont see you as a threat because you are mostly attracted to men, same thing happened to me. when i first came out as a tranny, i was mostly attracted to men, but overtime i became more attracted to women and suddenly the cis girl friends i had were suddenly too busy to hang out, then too busy to respond to messages within a normal length of time, and then simply too busy to respond at all. cis women can tolerate trans women as long as we can be kind of like the token gay friend but a little different. if we're not that "token gay friend" then we're rapist sex pests

Does anyone else find that lots of cis girls try and make friends with you? Whenever I hang out with them I always get lots of requests to meet up again for coffee and hanging out and stuff, but I never follow up because I’m too autistic and it takes a lot of effort to stay in conversation one-on-one

>>40685746 (OP)
i have no friends lol

>>40692891
same. i dont know how to make friends or hold conversations. i wish i had friends so bad

>>40692773
nah lol that isn't me i'm together with a woman right now
i'm just very reserved in general and don't feel any need to control what I say because I just don't say weird or threatening things

>>40692852
yea kinda same, i never expect it because i'm like wait why the fuck would you hang out with just me. but I do end up staying out with girls a lot when others from the group go home like oh you still wanna have drinks me too let's get some wine or something and chill for a while before going home

Cis women in the UK are very horrible and spiteful.

I was sat down with my dad having a cup of tea, and when i got up one deliberately pushes into me and started talking shit.

Then another group were staring at me with such hatred. Being here is horrible

Not a mtf but I sympathize. The best kinds of female friendships are with much older ladies. We talk about cooking, gardening, dogs, and neighborhood gossip and its great. The neurotic, controlling kind of older ladies are horrible, though. But cis women my age or younger are too normie even when they think they are totally not normies.

>>40685762
yet you want to be one
whew
what are we doing

>>40695602
i don't like being friends with old ladies. it makes me feel really weird that im too retarded to everyone my age.

>>40685746 (OP)
They all like board games and I cba learning how to play new shit like Wingspan every time I want to drink tea until 9pm and then get the train home sober

>>40692852
they wanna fuck u or they think ur novelty cause ur a tranny

>>40685746 (OP)
the only cis women who'd be my friend are stupid ugly nerds. which is fitting since i am one. but i don't like stupid ugly nerds

>>40691152
i wish id been friends with mostly women. i was friends with a lot of cis girls when i was younger but in middle school i got bullied by girls and then i grew really fast and felt like a monster compared to them. now im not friends with any cis women because im afraid of them. im afraid they're afraid of me. half a decade of transphobia has made it much worse

>>40685746 (OP)
i am all my friends are cis women
t. bi cis woman, i know this thread isn't for me but i'm bored

>>40696340
>but i'm bored

I eat pizza when im bored

>>40696349
i just finished a matcha

>>40685746 (OP)
They keep transitioning or going nb around me