Thread 40699637

ive seen a lot of people fully detroon and try to find jesus but how many twinkhons have successfully detrooned to gay bottoms? Id stay on HRT, keep the penis, and get a gay bf. not much would change except id probably retrain to a more twinkish voice instead of a semipassable female one

pros:
>husband won't leave me to start a family
>no longer an automatic sub4 by virtue of tranny so i wont have to settle
>twinks are treated better than troons
>being 6ft is neutral/a positive vs a hard negative
>i can get skinny to be more attractive w/o worrying about bone structure
>i read a lot of yaoi and there is an AAP element
>worst case here is medical transition works over time and i just retroon
>i have a lot of money so itd be a ralph lauren style gay in my own eco instead of depressed circuit fags

cons:
>passing semi-regularly is nice and im definitely treated better than twinks when this happens
>probably worsened dysphoria compared to now but not nearly as bad as a full detroon
>very real chance im still clocked as a tranny due to my small but visible boobs and not male ass
>do gay men that are not chasers like non-stinky twinkhons?

stats for context:
>lateshit trooned at 22
>2.5y HRT
>high facial harmony
>twinkish face but in a handsome twink instead of a fem twink :(
>6 feet tall
>actual gynoandromorph, all my stats sit between men and women
>very small boobs but well shaped
>defined waist but ribcage a little too wide + hips a little too narrow to ever dress down
>passable as a woman with makeup and not in harsh lighting
>23 bmi but working on taking it to 20
>feminine personality
>low bodycount

>>40699637 (OP)
>try to find jesus
I know this is a Jewish thread but I just want to make it clear that Jesus loves transgender people for who they really are. He knows you better than he knows yourself.

>>40699672
not a jew, and i dont believe in god. consider the stats

do it. i did it and it was a good decision. nowadays I'm chillin. dating as a gay man is much better. just take the HRT and dgaf abt gender identity stuff.

>>40699637 (OP)
>husband won't leave me to start a family
lmao
but yeah this is otherwise a perfectly viable strategy

>>40699800
how did people react when you socially detrooned? did you change your name back? do you feel worse about your appearance or the same/better?
>>40699804
guarantee the rate of male x tranny vs male x twink relationships that end for this reason are wildly different

what about detroon to gay vers?
Is it really, fully detrooning if you don't let yourself top or enjoy getting your cock stroked or sucked?

>>40699800
>just take the HRT
wny not be a gay man without taking hrt?

>>40699829
> how did people react when you socially detrooned?
I didn't come out to my closest friends desu, just some acquaintances and strangers mostly to test the waters. Either I cut contact or knew them pretrans so going back was p easy.
> did you change your name back?
Mostly yes, but I'm still on the fence about it
> do you feel worse about your appearance or the same/better?
Better. The major improvements are that I don't really doom about passing anymore and my dating life has improved. I'm still somewhat dysphoric and would prefer living as a woman, but I doubt I would pass even with FFS and then it's just kinda pointless to introduce yourself as a woman. I'm just a really fruity femfag.
>>40699930
> wny not be a gay man without taking hrt?
as I said, I'm still a bit dysphoric and don't care for further masculinization - also switching back to T isn't as easy as ppl make it out to be unless you wanna be going through what is effectively menopause for up to a few years (without exogenous T).
Tbf at some point in the future I might want to socially retroon, so staying on HRT is the preferable option for me.

>>40700437
NTA but do people ever clock that you used to be trans, or do you get mistaken for a woman? I’ve considered detransing but I wouldn’t want to cut my hair, but that poses the problem that I get gendered female a lot because of it, which makes it harder to go back to being male

>>40703248
Nah I rock a medium length wolf cut with bangs... I just get clocked as a fag a lot, but that's okay for me. I have cute man genetics, not woman genetics and I don't wanna be a hag.

>>40699672
Jesus loves everyone, but He always told people to repent from sin.

An honest reading of the Bible makes it clear that being a male and being a man are equivalent, and that men have a duty to fulfill the male gender role to some degree at least.

Don't let your trans identity get between you and eternal life.

>>40699637 (OP)
You'll probably have better luck as a gay/NB detroon twink. Not gonna lie. If you actually want to date men.

Trooning always makes dating harder, and detrooning always makes it easier. Most people just don't want to be with troons.

>>40703276
That’s a nice style, I can see it working. Sorry to ask so many questions - but what made you decide to finally detrans? And did you pass much at all before?

>>40703420
Thx ^^ No is fine I've been grappling with it a lot as well - I decided to detrans because I realized I'm not trutrans, but rather gay. If I can just be with men, I'm fine. I like my gay bros, I don't wanna loose them because I'm too shy to go out there and be a fag like they are.
I passed a bit I think, but not enough to justify me calling myself a woman. I'm just a lil submissive femfag that likes jewelry, makeup and leather totes. I don't have to 'be' a woman to do that is what I learned.