Thread 40700340

Mtfs - do you feel women, on average, lead easier lives than men do?

>>40700340 (OP)
Without a doubt no. Men have it much, much easier. The only thing its easier to do as a woman is get attention while being mid
Anybody who disagrees is an incel

>>40700340 (OP)
rich people have it easy. Working class people have to suck it up

been like that since the start of time

>>40700350
Do you think women see you as a woman?

>>40700340 (OP)
No

>>40700340 (OP)
It's not a men vs women thing. It's a rich vs poor thing lmao.

>>40700371
ok but assume people of the exact same income - which gender is more socially advantaged?

>>40700340 (OP)
>you failed at life because life is about money and also i sell my body like the lowest of the low
truly a great philosopher

in the society i live in (finland) there are disadvantages and generally i'd say no, but definitely in my experience social situations are much nicer as a woman, people are much friendlier and care about you more. though sexual harassment is a hundred times more common and scarier. over all no life iskt easier for women but it is much nicer and easier for ME as a woman. i didnt fit in as a man

>>40700383
Can you live without any money at all?
Can you live if everyone around you ignores you completely (no attention)?

>>40700340 (OP)
I'd be too biased because most men have no issue with what I hated about living as a man

>>40700350
Well well well. Look what do we got here. A FtM Repper. Take your testosterone tranon.

>>40700389
i feel like these are very loaded questions but i have no idea what youre getting at. no, i cant live without money, finland isvery expensive to live in. transitioning didnt change my finnaces at all though, apart from causing more expenses. i can live without attention and being ignored, and thats exactly what my daily loner life is like, same as before transition. but casual social encounters are more pleasant now and im allowed to cry without judgement.

>>40700463
so, getting attention matters, and being able to more easily get it is an advantage in daily life?

I just want to be taken care of....

Maybe on average but it's a positively skewed distribution towards rich women so the median woman still suffers more I imagine

>>40700474
She did not say nor imply either of those things. You're really reaching incelanon

>>40700474
i think you might be retarded. im not sure getting attention is any easier, and even if it is, youre conveniently ignoring that not getting raped or sexually assaulted or hatecrimed also matters. i think you should probably kys.

>>40700340 (OP)
One day only a beta bucks simp will want her long-term and she will never feel fulfilled. She will cheat on him to try and escape that but it'll never fill that empty hole in her soul
Only a fool would take the word of a whore seriously

>>40700340 (OP)
>feel
Yes.

>>40700350
>men have it easier
Yeah, topping the charts is suicides, imprisonment and having no dedicated health care that isn't just dick related, as well as being considered a non person or predator as the norm, especially when children are involved. (for all you cunts with daddy fetishes, you seem to have a hard time grasping fatherhood for men)

S'fucking great.

>>40700383
All finnish trans women are ugly hons

>>40700350
Im mtf and I AGREE. Men have access to all the high paying blue collar jobs too, while there's a growing amount of women in them you don't have to look far to see the kind of shit they put up with. And also men will project their own ideas of who you are onto you because you have tits.

Honestly in some senses I was valued more for my atereotypically "female traits" (empathetic, told I'm a good listener, cooked, took care of friends, open about my emotions in a clear and articulate way) when I was presenting male, now all of that is just taken for granted. Men have problems too but it feels like the wider discourse around men's problems can't exist without the prevailing topic becoming "and here's why stupid FOIDS have NO problems" which is a ridiculous statement to make about literally half of humanity

>>40701012
Men do 90% of violence. Its natural to be scared of men.

>>40700350
>the only thing easier is to have everyone love you and give you free stuff and protect you and privilege you over the other half of the population

>>40701067
You're missing a qualifier. Men do 90 percent of effective violence. All you need to do is take men out of the equation and women start smashing skulls and shivving cunts in equal measure. Just look at women's prisons (they are as violent as male prisons) and violence against children (split almost 50/50 across the genders)

Suppose it's normal to be more scared of the ones that can more effectively beat your ass, but make no mistake, if a woman wants to plant a 2 by 4 in your melon and thinks they can get away with it (or is just pissed off enough not to care) they certainly will.

Just comes down to whether you think you can face tank the damage or talk your way out of it.

Though if that doesn't make you feel better, remember most of that man violence is against other men. Women are less likely to be a victim of violence than a dude, by a massive margin.

>>40700340 (OP)
Without a doubt yes. anyone who disagrees is retarded. Women live life on recruit difficulty

In first world countries? Absolutely. Easiest dating and even in professional sphere it gives you a huge boost to be one of the few outperforming women. Second world is 50/50 but obviously shifting very fast, third world is a nightmare

>>40701067
I love when feminists talk about men like a right winger with an FBI book talks about black people

Hey be sure to buy into another psy op like man vs bear in an election year

>>40701303
this

It's just different. If you want to do nothing but sell your body and be taken care of for it, yeah it's easier to be a woman. But if you have actual passions and ideals and want to be taken seriously, it's much, much better to be a man. Women live life on easy mode, but that also comes at the cost of people treating them like children. If you're okay with being treated like a child, then yeah go ahead and troon out.
>t. cis male

>>40701279
How would you know when you specially look like a disgusting man? Nobody is treating you like a girl
>>40701663
Are you scared of a random ladies walking behind you at night? Doubt that. Women have every reason to be scared of men.

>>40702045
Why are you being mean to me

>>40702006
Cis men have no clue of living as a woman, troon out first and then we can talk

>>40702049
Cause you are so ugly

>>40700340 (OP)
i feel making that comparison is unfair because they are not equivicable. women have their own unique problems. for instance. women often are ignored or infantilized by doctors making it harder to get treatment when they need it.
but men? they're emotionally stunted because of society's overall emotional intelligence is low on average. the reason for the male incel / loneliness epidemic is women's complete lack of emotional intelligence. instead of empathizing with them, they'll put them on blast on social media or talk shit about them with your friends. no some guy isn't a creep for asking for your number. if you can't be mature about it, then you're the cunt.

>>40702057
Ok well that makes me sad that you said that

>>40700350
>Without a doubt no. Men have it much, much easier. The only thing its easier to do as a woman is get attention while being mid
man here: agreed

>>40702075

are your pics public

(NTA)

>>40702050
I'm not going to troon out. If living as a woman is so terrible, why are you so eager to do so? Suck my cock you uppity brat.

>>40702086
Ppl have saved them

>>40702098
because i'm more comfortable living with a vagina than a dick

>>40702108
given you're a low-IQ racist sexist loser (all the while making other destiny fans like myself seem guilty by proxy) attention craver who speaks exactly like an incel I have to assume you very probably are completely hideous despite having no clue what you look like

>>40700340 (OP)
Im loving my life as a passing gay trans man, so women have it harder

>>40702150
non-ops are just tomboys, not transmen. no phallo, no manhood. transvestites are not transsexuals.

>>40702139
Ok.... dggL... I guess

>>40702110
Yeah, it's easier for you. Now how about you show me where you shit from.

>>40702139
You're not any better ziocuck

>>40702045
Not beating the allegations at all

No i am not afraid of randomly ladies, I am not afraid of randomly men either in spite of being repeatedly assaulted and hate crimed over the course of my life. Instead of being freaked out and scaring the next generation of women from existing publicly I try to be aware of my surroundings and carry some protection

I love histrionic women acting and talking exactly like a right winger with an FBI crime stats book, you all are my favorite kinds of bigot libshits

>>40700340 (OP)
I think a mid-value woman has it easier than a low-value man but every woman still has to deal with more bullshit than her looksmatches do

>>40700340 (OP)
>Mtfs - do you feel women, on average, lead easier lives than men do?
Higher floor, lower ceiling. For anyone ambitious, being a woman is a liability. This is a small number of people though, even among men, so men get butthurt seeing women lead "easy" lives. On the other hand, women are inclined to support each other. Men *could* be inquiring about each other's emotional needs, and helping other men, but they don't. Or there's some caveat, like you have to join a fraternity and do weird Masonic rituals just so you have people to share a meal with sometimes. idk men are weird.

>>40702284
Cis woman cannot run or overpower men, they need to be scared and careful

>>40700340 (OP)
No one has an easier life. All of you need to touch grass

>>40700375
Neither, retarded premise.

>>40700340 (OP)
by every metric western women are privileged than
emperors and gods
Anyone who disagree is retarded or afabs who don't want to lose their victimhood status so they can keep getting everything they want

>>40702558
>esl
Please write better.

>>40702558
english so bad it could be baby's first chud post. are your parents aware you're doing this?

>>40700350
it's funny that you people think men get anything for free. you earn respect, no matter your gender, it's just that women get treated nicer when they haven't earned it. being a deadbeat as a woman isn't as big of a deal as a man, being overly needy and dependent as a woman isn't that big of a deal, etc., etc. how do men earn respect? it starts with killing yourself emotionally! women would end up as flamers if they changed nothing, meaning they'd get treated with zero respect as they do now (with none of the privilege they had).
there is no special benefit to being a man, it's just that the privileges women are given come with a number of consequences and burdens. being a woman is shitty too, but it's so annoying people refuse to acknowledge male suffering and just pretend they're all coasting by living a live of privilege, as if men are subjected to extreme sexism from childhood which demonises anything except masculine performance (before hitting them with the double bind where that behaviour is also demonised).

>>40702558
Yet female children are forced to carry their rapists babies

>>40702808
Many men are predators desu almost all violence is done by them, its natural that everyone hates men unless they prove themselves to be worthy. Bonobo men who hurt others are exiled from community, human men who are exiled whine on internet

>>40702809
And? Men have to get kicked in the balls. Your retarded comment is irrelevant to the question

>>40702840
Does law mandate that they need to be kicked on balls? Don't think so

>>40702846
It does mandate they have to go to war while women dont. What your retarded ass thinks doesn't matter. This is what is.

>>40702846
Also you complaining about a law against killing babies shows how fucking depraved you are dni

>>40702809
delulu and most men have to serve in the army

>>40700350
fpbp

t. stealthoid

>>40702882
Yeah no any actual stealth person knows how much easier life as a woman is lmao.

>>40702871
Shut up moid. Of course a male woman would approve of little children getting forced to carry their rapist child. You are ugly and stupid, good that you will never look like a woman, you pedo freak, so little girls don't have to be near you.

>>40702888
any actual stealth person knows it isn't lol. literally the only thing that's easier is that it's harder to be single. if you're attractive this is almost always a bad thing

>>40702866
And who decided that? Who made the laws? Men. Men also kicked out trannies from army. Male on male violence is not the fault of women. Fix your own things, girlies focus on violence caused by men to women.

>>40702873
And who set that up?

>>40702897
>>40702911
>>40702914
This isn't even fun. At least try a little bit. This is like 0 effort bait I can't even engage with it.

>>40703083
Why are you, ugly incel looking creature talking when you have nothing of value to say?

>>40700350
yea, it's highly based on looks, age, and location

>>40703105
Try harder

>>40703153
Uggo with ugly hair

>>40703083
>>40702911 (I) was not baiting you

>>40703172
Last one was better you're regressing

>>40703178
Poopoo face

>>40703174
I'm not stealth yet bc no srs but every interaction i have people assume I'm female. Life for a woman is substantially easier and better.

>>40703194
People are just nice cause you look like moid, thats the reason I remember your face. I don't remember trans girls who look like girls but you were so ugly and masculine that I will never forget you

>>40703221
Again, put some effort in

>>40703194
thats just cause ur like 5'4, being a short man is hell, but if ur an attractive and tall boy, its not that bad.

>>40703229
Honfidence

>>40703232
5'3 get it right prick. And no my life when I was a mood was fine. Everyone was nice to me regardless. Idk why you are assuming when I talk about it being better/easier I mean people are suddenly nice. (Though they are a bit nicer now too)

>>40703232
I dunno, life as short, young looking and passing gay trans man is nice and fun

>>40703253
ive just heard a lot about how its hard for short men in the black community, because of toxic masculine standards,

>>40703399
Well you heard wrong. Only white people do that cartoon shit

>>40700340 (OP)
i never fell for the incel shit even pre trans

>>40703253
ur so mean to me

>>40700340 (OP)
In my slice of suburban american life, yes. Boys and girls have the same rights but the expectations are higher for boys, which doesn't make sense. And revanchism like female only scholarships and initiatives remain even in settings where females outnumber males. It may be different for people in different backgrounds, but those are my experiences.

>I can't kill my baby
>see, women are WAY more oppressed
lol

>>40700340 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fc_A47_4is

>>40703677
Literally lol

>>40703689
Holy based. Obviously a sex positive icon would do that. The people who donate to hummus probably butcher women who flick da bean

>>40703694
Do they know that like, if you get raped you can leave the baby at a fire station or hospital and just um never see it again?

>>40703710
hurry up and butcher your genitals, lampshade

>>40703733
Sorry not a 50 year old cracker no idea what this means

>>40703710
after they cut your head off and flush it down the toilet, you'll have plenty of time to flick your micropenis on the desolate shores of the lake of fire.

>>40700383
>though sexual harassment is a hundred times more common and scarier

I know we're on a pozzed (literally) board but this is 4chan. You can say the demographics that are causing the sexual harassment in your socially democratic paradise.

>>40700340 (OP)
I feel bad for this girl. It’s clear her family is pimping her out to a public ever since she was 9. She is destined to become a mentally unstable adult
> women live easier lives than men
It’s easier to claim you have a harder life because you are the one who lives it. But considering that you can be stone to death by your own family after your husband accused you of cheating after he gave you syphilis Id say women have it worse

>>40700340 (OP)
They obviously do, every double standard is in favor of women

>>40700340 (OP)
absolutely not. men have more self-imposed struggles than women who tend to be victims of aggression from the world. denying this is borderline delusional.

>>40700340 (OP)
This person is like a 3.5/10 judging purely by her looks, since that's what she's selling. I can't believe men have become so desperate for any scrap of female that they would pay this person to see them naked. The incel problem and women exploiting men needs to end or every secular fucked up country that goes this route will unravel and collapse.

>>40704824
Cishon rage

>>40700340 (OP)
Trannies with twisted views and perception of women are bound to give hilarious answers, what a thread

>>40704824
this is liltay she's not an onlyfans girl. she's been doing a bit since 11 years old where she pretends to be rich to rage bait people that ended up actually making her a lot of money

>>40704878
the AI moves on to another target if someone cheers on Hamas sawing it's head off. Now you know how to respond to Discordia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGBZold3-qI

>>40706237
English next time

>>40706809
when Auschwitz is reopened we can put a big drain on the bottom of the swimming pool and flush you down it.

>>40704729
name several

>>40703689
what a big nose

>>40703677
Why do men want to force little children to go trough pregnancy that could kill them? You don't care about children. Abortion is based, only men would think a 1mm being with no brain is a baby.
Anti abortion trannies should all get bullet to their head, why are you larping as a woman and giving opinions about stuff that your kind should have no opinions about. Misogyny will never affect your body.

>>40709101
Yap yap yap wtvr baby killer

>>40703728
Why should a raped child suffer through dangerous pregnancy? Her body is too young to give birth safely. If she is too young to adopt and get married, she is too young to put through all that. Males are evil creatures who want to be able to force pregnancy on little kids trough rape.

>>40709127
Why should a baby be murdered for any reason

>>40709115
Male who hates female children but wants to larp as one but is too ugly to pull it. I know you masturbated to that one 5 year old who had to give birth to her rapists child.

>>40709137
Its not a baby and exisiting child is more important than a sack of cells. But your opinion is worthless as you have no uterus. I'm happy that abortion is legal in my country and your kind are recommened to have assisted suicide as the first option to treat your creepy fetish.

>>40709149
>>40709169
Baby murderers DNI

women's lives are easier in every measure, everywhere

>>40701048
European trans in general because RLE lmao

>>40700340 (OP)
Yes. Everytime someone tells me how much "worse" their life got as a woman, I just think they're coping. Being a man is a lonely sad miserable existence where you're labeled as a monster simply for existing. Even if you do everything perfectly you're still a monster. They didn't care that I was raped myself, they didn't care about any of it. But now people do care. And you know what? I don't forgive them.

>>40709440
>Being a man is a lonely sad miserable existence where you're labeled as a monster simply for existing
most trans women can't admit this

>>40709449
Because they feel like if they admit it, they'll lose it. And people will go back to shunning them. I don't care because it's all fake anyway.

Idk man, we all have our struggles, it doesn’t exactly matter what we have down there. It really depends who you are, how you were born, how your life went, and how you chose to go about it.

>>40709457
lose what?

You won't get drafted

>>40709181
Ugly fetish tranny who wants 5 year old girls to suffer and die

>>40709467
Their female privilege. People will stop embracing them and they'll be forced back into the abyss if they dare speak out and say being a women is easy as fuck. They have to validate their cis foid masters or else theyll lose their women hood. It's pathetic.

>>40709440
Poons seem to be very happy, they stop killing themselves as they transition, trans women don't stop, they sui just as much as pre trooning

>>40709475
But I thought female privilege isn't real?

>>40709480
Do you have anything to back this up? Because that doesn't match my personal experience.

>>40709480
>Poons seem to be very happy

>>40709484
Obviously it is.

>>40709485
It was some study that has been posted on this board, I don't remember what it was called but I think you can find it if you use key words to search it

>>40709492
What do you say to all those who deny it?

>>40709503
Well there are a whole lot of problems with the premise and you'd need to look over it, but I highly doubt it's related to mtfs life's getting so much worse after transition. Probably hons who couldn't actually pass.

>>40709506
How can you? If you're a man everyone hates you. Even other men. Women are lapping men in almost every category.
The only arguments against female privilege are done by comparing extremely rich men with the average woman. Id you compare the average male to the average female, it's obvious that one is going to live a significantly better life.

And yeah, sexual assault happens, but if it happens to you as a male(which is common) you're especially fucked if you want support.

>>40709522
they will say men commit all the crimes

>>40709522
Women can make humanity better by rejecting ugly antisocial males and getting them exiled from society.
Thats what bonobo society does to keep the pack peaceful.

Women were forced to marry and birth babies for men because of no other options in past. Now its time for real female sexual choice, driving humanity to be better. Men must show to women that they have something in them that is worth of giving to next generation.

Bonobos are calm and happy cause their women get to choose. Chimps rape and do genocides. Let's choose the bonobo path for humanity.

>>40709556
why not just select female embryos and breed extra females and assign them to lonely males?

>>40709560
Lonely men are lonely for a reason. They are not suited to be part of society

>>40709567
maybe we just need more females to go around

>>40700340 (OP)
I do believe that men can have it very easy or very hard, it all depends with the physical traits they were born with and their surroundings, all of those reasons made me to change my mind when transitioning and I'm glad all the money I saved for top surgery I spent them on a brand new car. I'm babyfaced, 5'3 and no dick if a 5'3 with small dick man has it like hell on earth mentally I will have the deepest hell on earth experience

>>40709586
men have it very hard

>>40709682
not really, man who's over average has it the easiest especially if he comes from a wealthy family

>>40709569
More females than males make a peaceful and nice society

>>40709894
so that's wealth, not him being male...leading to the advantage
women who marry wealthy men do fuck all and keep 50% if the husband tries to leave
if anything, what female supremacists view as male privilege is simply the effects of men being smarter

of course

>>40702927
society in general . defending your resources and territory is something all animals do because it benefits them

>>40709943
alimony isn't just for women lol it's for whoever makes less. if a man married a rich woman and they got divorced she'd have to pay him as well, unfortunately women tend to make less because they've been discouraged for generations from doing any high paying jobs

>>40710990
nope women can relay on men to take care of them financially men on the other hand has to make money or his luck with is in fractions . even rich women go for men who are richer than them because of hypergamy

KYS foid

>>40711004
wow so you're noticing women have been forced to be valued based only on their appearance and no other factors and not being seen as a whole person and this is women's fault? you sound very smart

>>40711014
typical cuntoid logic. and why women didn't change much now? . the exchange of resources for sex has always been a thing for humans and animals due to female to carrying babies not because of the imaginary thing called the patriarchy . now even when the environment is much safer and wealthier women still get useless degrees or get degrees that will unable them to get high status men . KYS ASAP

>>40711044
>what are social pressures
you sound very smart.
women aren't encouraged like men are to go into high paying fields as kids, most girls are encouraged to get a husband to take care of them to this day and go into traditionally feminine (lower pay) jobs because women are seen as less capable and meant to be home makers.

that's the entire point of modern day feminism, that the laws may not be there anymore but there's still a lot of social pressure for them to conform a certain way. You realize majority of the US is literally part of a religion that says a woman's main job is to serve her husband and build a home right? you think this doesn't effect the culture?

>>40709943
Coming from a wealthy family or being wealthy is just the cherry on the top, but a +6'2 male with athletic body, good looking face and big pp literally lives way way way easier and better and for far longer time than a woman no matter how hot is she because men do also have this thing to always go for younger women while younger women go for older men

>>40711276
but this is not because men are artificially advantaged...you are just describing the most desirable sort of male

>>40711004
That what most men choose to do. I don't have a job and my wife pays everything. Its that easy.

>>40711075
Third world women go to school to get the most high earning job they can get. They outperform men. Western world has social security and girls can just do whatever they want

>>40712154
a bunch of third world countries women cant even go to school wtf are you talking about bro?

>>40712168
There is a difference between third world and a muslim shithole

>>40711276
>muh chad
i tired of this meme . chad will die in trenches chad can't still spread his legs and women will take care of him chad will get circumcised chad will put a lot of effort in pursuing women chad will never have the same bodycount of a very plain looking foid chad will get false accused chad will get raped and will be called a fagot and women will disinterested in him chad will get abused by his wife or gf and will be called a faggot chad will lose to average dumb foid because of quotas chad will get divorce raped and lose his house , money and children. the list just goes on and the average foid lives much better life than any chad

>>40712138
> what is exception to the rule
are you afab or amab

>>40712180
surprisingly different cultures put different pressures on people. I know, shocking.

>>40712154
yes they are getting degrees because it allows them to get men with higher status

>>40712168
>>40712180
even in those countries women go to colleges

>>40712190
Amab

>>40712207
No, they get high earning jobs to support their parents you fucking idiot

>>40712227
>>40712201
you're owning yourself bozo

>>40712227
as a person from the third world you are wrong and kys immediately

>>40712154
>girls can just do whatever they want
that's not true.
you cant beat your boyfriend at the airport or shoot paintballs at strangers

>>40712238
>admitting to being a thirdie
your opinion is wrong, go collect water from the river for your family in a bucket instead of posting on 4chan

>>40712238
You are wrong. I'm also from a shithole

>>40700340 (OP)
>Mtfs - do you feel women, on average, lead easier lives than men do?
I mean yeah. My life is substantially easier and more pleasant after transitioning.

>>40712236
Not the same u donkey

>>40712244
>you cant beat your boyfriend at the airport
You absolutely can and nobody will stop you.

>>40712246
let me guess you are nurse ?

>>40712260
NTA but google Sha’Carri Richardson

>>40700340 (OP)
Top tier male life > Top tier female life
Average female life > Average male life
Bottom tier famale life > Bottom tier male life

>>40712286
wrong

>>40712275
That's because she's black not because she's a woman. Women get away with open displays of violence towards their SO all the time.

>>40712289
correct*

>>40712311
as expected well i am still right . i meant women who go to college to become a doctor or engineer

>>40712300
also airports are no-no zones where narcs are paid to get you in trouble over THE most minor of things - most women know to use emotional abuse - and to do it where they are not being recorded

>>40712245
gonna do that after i disembowel you

>>40712362
it's okay I'll forgive you for that if you use my corpse for the food you and your family need, I'm a pragmatist after all.

>>40712393
nah you are an optimist at best you are turning into fertilizer and i am gonna give it for free for someone else

>>40712444
hopefully they can grow food with it and your country gets a bit better

female privilege is real and hurts men

>>40712504
hopefully but i doubt you are even good as a fertilizer

>>40712519
down with feminism and tradcons