Thread 40708913

i hate not having a vagina
i wish i could have sex in a way that was fun and easy and felt good (for me and him too)
i wish i wasn't relegated to using a hole that isn't even for sex
i hate it :\

>>40708913 (OP)
Just rub your dicks together

>>40708929
ew ew ew no that shit stays hidden amd out of sight

>>40708913 (OP)
Same op. I fucking hate it.
>>40708929
Fun but not like the real thing.

>>40708913 (OP)
as someone who has a vulva, i'll just say it's overrated beyond how I can wear leggings and tight clothes

>>40708913 (OP)
Jeez. Not liking anal must suck.
>>40708929
Hot, but not viable for those with genital dysphoria.

>>40708913 (OP)
what is it with everyone saying the ass isnt for sex now do you think your anatomy really put the prostate there for no reason at all? dont you sometimes wonder why cis women dont have that structure there?

>>40708977
but do you like men?
i feel like if you like men, having one must be pretty great.
but if you don't it's not so great.

>>40708986
>prostate
trans girl prostates don't have the same degree of sexual function that cis male prostates do

>>40708986
>cis women dont have that structure there?
Cowpers gland is the analogous organ

>>40709016
NVM I'm thinking of something else but I'm pretty sure there's a gland there I remember in anatomy class

>>40709011
interesting... i learn something new everyday

>>40709001
why would it not be great if they didnt like men? is it obligatory for someone to have a penis if they like women now? lol

>>40709001
yes, but i'm not very sexually active

>>40708986
Lmao the ass is not for sex you have mindrot

>>40709011
That's not strictly true... mine works around the same as it did pre-HRT. It varies from person to person, just like erectile function. :3
>>40709035
Mine is.

>>40709016
skenes gland, but as much as i tried to look it up it all just seems kind of like a myth because its supposed to be minuscule and the only thing really making pleasure from penetration possible is the inner extension of the clitoris. theres no prostate analogous involved.

>>40709033
well ok. it's definitely not my place to tell you how you should and shouldn't feel about your body.

>>40708913 (OP)
i hate it too :( covid stopped me from getting srs and i still haven't been able to

>>40708913 (OP)
felt that :( anal sucks

>>40709044
stop bragging fag

>>40708913 (OP)
iktf sis. i wish i had one too.
i usually get jelly of the girls who got a pussy on that surgery sub

>>40708913 (OP)
fucking same. im post op but my srsussy doesnt even work right i wish i had a real fuckign vagina fmstl

>>40709808
im sorry im drunk just i just want a vagina and to have normal fun sex like real human beings do its not fucking fair. ITS NOT FUCKING FAIR FUCK!!!!! i jsut have this stupid fake hole i didnt even get a good srsussy out of it like some other girls why couldnt i just have this one thing go right FUCK. i got this far and this close to the finish line im stuck with this bullshit for the rest of my life. sorry not to steal your vent just my friends treat me like i cant complain about anything ever again now that im post op but i spend every night crying and drinking basically over this exact same feeling OP its just not fucking fair

>>40709823
What's wrong with your pussy babe?

>>40708913 (OP)
I don't really have anything worthwhile to say but reading made me a bit sad I wish you all the best nonetheless.

>>40708913 (OP)
I felt the same way and the only thing that fixed it was SRS from a good surgeon. Now I don't have to think or worry about that anymore and can just enjoy sex with my bf

>>40709823
Kek

>>40708913 (OP)
Go get SRS

>>40708913 (OP)
I feel the same. I don't understand why I should bother living if getting one is impossible.

>>40711282
Why isn't it possible? SRS exists, hell Thailand's first export is SRS surgeries, there's always options.

>>40708913 (OP)
not related but this maid girl is really cute i want to pet her hair

>>40708913 (OP)
i had an operation to get a vagina and i think you need to get one too
>>40708977
i mean on a day to day basis you are correct and honestly they can be kind of annoying since they can leak and get infected and such but they are useful in sex
>>40708986
>>40709016
"skene's gland" it is a part of the urethra in either case. the ass is only used becuase men don't have vaginas to get them close to the urethra.
>>40709045
it's interesting how in a lot of non-human animals the terminology is "female prostate" but in human females all the social stuff about how women aren't supposed to want sex gets in the way. somehow we're really attached to "women don't have prostates" as well as "women don't desire sexual pleasure [without a man involved anyway]" which leads to all of this confusion/denial about how the clitoris forms etc.
>>40709823
>>40709977
yes what's worng maybe we know something that can help

>>40708913 (OP)
vaginal sex is overrated. i can't come from it and don't even bother with penetration these days because it's only slightly more pleasurable than touching the inside of my mouth. you have to understand the inside of the vagina has NO FEELING AT ALL. that's why women can forget they have a tampon in, etc. thrusting is meant to stimulate the clit (aka organ similar to dick) from the inside, not the vagina itself.
>inb4 freak of nature
iirc over a half of women can't come from penetration.

>>40711542
It's not necessarily about feeling someone inside you though, just not having a dick, having a pussy that doesn't make you feel dysphoric, not feeling bad about sex

You're not focusing on the right thing.

>>40711542
are you cis?

>>40711546
well yeah, for you it's about dysphoria. i was just pointing out that having a pussy does not equal
>could have sex in a way that was fun and easy and felt good (for me
>>40711551
yes

>>40709011
This. Tgirls wreck their sex lives by taking HRT

>>40711563
But ">could have sex in a way that was fun and easy and felt good (for me" refers to not being dysphoric about it, not necessarily about the pussy having sensations, not being dysphoric, not feeling like shit when your partner touches your bits would already be more enjoyable and more pleasurable than the opposite, nobody mentioned sensations in the pussy

>>40711571
i see

>>40708986
>dont you sometimes wonder why cis women dont have that structure there?
Because the prostate produces seminal fluid and women don't produce semen? The prostate just happens to be in a spot where it can be stimulated indirectly through the anus

>>40711407
But SRS results are not that good, are they? Would it even be functional? I can't help but to think that it would suck badly and feel and act unnaturally.

>>40711728
depends on the surgeon
i can cum from 30 seconds of fingering lol
although the outside is sorta ugly

>>40711728
Yes, they're pretty good actually, you should educate yourself on newer procedures and surgeons, results are honestly not far from an actual pussy, and you can cum from being fucked too.

>>40711844
what newer procedures and surgeons exist and are good then?
or where could i learn that?

>>40711542
>thrusting is meant to stimulate the clit (aka organ similar to dick) from the inside
and this is very fun and if you don't have a vagina you can't do it

>>40711912
i mean the prostate is just the back of the dick basically so if you're amab you can do something similar

>>40709260
nah
that's just the inner gock, not a vagina

>>40711912
You do know SRS also creates a kind of clit, right? You have roughly the same sensations as an actual vagina, if you make one. So yes you can say that it does.

>>40711900
Unironically, this is pretty good and also pretty in depth, if you want to start: https://www.reddit.com/r/TransSurgeriesWiki/wiki/srs/introduction

god I hate being amab, fuck maleness

>>40708913 (OP)
I need to force a tranny to only dilate with my dick

>>40712002
yes i have a neopussy that's why i was surprised to see someone claiming vaginal sex does not feel good (i do agree specifically about the relative lack of sensation in the vagina but at a holistic level sex does in fact feel good)

>>40712101
>yes i have a neopussy that's why i was surprised to see someone claiming vaginal sex does not feel good
has it ever crossed your mind that your neopussy is kinda different from the real thing? therefore the sensations are different.

>>40712101
Yeah I don't really get it either, I don't have one but it's not hard to just infer that not having bits that make you dysphoric would already improve things substantially, even if it "doesn't feel good" by itself

>>40712121
neopussies are specifically engineered to mimic the "real thing" as close as it can, so it doesn't matter if it's not the same thing, both act in a very similar way, by design

>>40712132
>engineered to mimic
yeah still not the real thing. we're getting into some qualia shit territory.

>>40708913 (OP)
I feel the same way, but luckily my husband is cool with me fucking pussy on side, that way I can have sex as god intended desu.
>>40709031
>why would it not be great if they didnt like men? is it obligatory for someone to have a penis if they like women now? lol
It can still be cool but nothing beats piv, it's best and most pleasurable use of both, typically at least, exceptions always be a thing.
>>40712101
Damn that sounds sad, am happy I didn't go through with srs.

>>40712146
no, we're getting into surgery things. Surgeries and medicine is a real thing that exists, I'm not making it up.

>>40712121
yes but we here and i and other women in general have reported the same experiences?
i do believe there is considerable variation between women. perhaps marie bonaparte was right
>>40712132
nothing she said was even wrong or outside my experience but i take an active role and angle myself well or rub my clit or nipples or other erogenous zones (and/or encourage my partner to do the same) and other such things that make sex fun
when i masturbate i too go for the clit but i also like putting a dildo in and stimulating it from behind at the same time (i don't always have the energy for this)
>>40712146
yeah there's epistemological issues but we can talk and share experiences and i have not found any reason to believe we have any major differences here
>>40712170
what about it sounds sad? that the actual internal tissue of the vagina is not very receptive is like.. normal. like i said sex is still fun

>>40712002
It's not even a "kind of clit" it's the part of your body with the nerves and tissue that would develop into a clitoris and was a clitoris in the womb is reshaped into one (ideally). If that's not enough and not better than being dysphoric than eh
>>40712146
>is that a hip replacement you've got? Ooh idk about that... why did you get something that was engineered to mimic the human hip like that?

>>40712221
Good point about the clit, I'll remember to describe it like that next time I have to

>>40712221
i mean not really for cis women they have an internal part of the clit that gets hard and feels good when stimulated and straddles the canal and all that. we have none of that, just the little button on the outside made from the tip of the dick and meant to superficially resemble it

>>40712132
this isnt true theyre not engineered for shit theyre just supposed to give a vaguely fuckable hole for men by any metric any research paper even uses

>>40712380
You really think they're just "holes"? If you even just a little bit look into the literature you'll see it more complicated than that, you move nerves, tissue, it's not just a fleshy hole, what the fuck are you talking about?

>>40712459
the only way any nerves are moved is when they remove all the parts of the dick except the head and they make sure not to cut the nerves that the head/clit needs. then they twist it up into a ball and stick it under the skin, its really not that fancy. well it is because its surgery but its not like they actually move nerves around more than just not cutting them in the first place, and even then its like 5% what an actual cis clitoris has going on. the literature is 99% about being able to take dick and the innovations and pitfalls in dick taking ability. they dont try to actually mimic internal structures, or maintain all the sensate parts of the genitals, or keep parts that are stereotypically male but that women have too like erectile tissue even if its really important to actually enjoying sex beyond being a fuckable hole.

>>40712509
They can't "remove" the penis.
The penis and scrotum become the canal.

The
inner
gock

>>40712205
>what about it sounds sad? that the actual internal tissue of the vagina is not very receptive is like.. normal. like i said sex is still fun
So you mean it's the same as cispuss? Don't cissies have the A and G spot and another sensitive inside thingie?

>>40712540
a spot is supposed to be the uterus or cervix and for me anyway too much stimulation at the back of my vagina mostly just hurts so maybe not but then again plenty of cis women aren't terribly excited by that either
g spot is the clitoris or skene's gland i.e. prostate and despite >>40712509 that stuff is more or less in the right place and probably contributes to what i'm about to say.
i do find being filled up to enhance how i feel when my clit is rubbed (or vice versa) so yeah that's the usual technique with me. i find it more useful to report what i feel than to read medical papers and try to hypothesize about what i'm supposed to feel. and in that regard basically every technique you've ever heard about for having sex with women is something i want to try and will probably enjoy.

>>40712581
I love rubbing a girl's clit while I fuck her, they seem to really enjoy that so your pussy seems cool to me desu.

>>40712617
yes it is really enjoyable but the geometry can be difficult depending on position
i also really enjoy having my nipples stimulated during sex

>>40712581
How long did it take after you had the surgery itself before you could be fucked, for lack of a better term? How did you deal with all of it? Also when did you get it?

>>40712380
okay granted I don't have some kind of sensitivity map comparing things 1 to 1. And as always, any surgery carries the risk of damaging sensate tissue. But don't some surgeons (suporn, bank) attempt to create additional erogenous zones around and slightly in the interior of the vagina? I know I've read about it, but it could be a marketing thing.

Regardless I think calling all the effort and craft that has gone into developing srs as just to create a fuckable hole is severely downplaying it. It could be called bioengineering by any sense of the word. And to be honest I'll probably get flamed for saying this, but many of the features of a vagina are there to make it a fuckable hole, in the crudest possible sense. That is the main purpose of it being lubricated, and lined with stratified squamous epithelium, and the shape of the muscles in the area, etc. So ANY advancements that make the vagina more like a cis woman could be accurately twisted as "making a more fuckable hole".

>>40712655
umm i think they told me three months but it was like a year and a half until i let a guy do it (i didn't have a bf or anything when i had surgery so)
i was probably masturbating at least with my clit to some extent at like a month out but it took longer to be comfortable going at myself with a dildo. it was a pain and hurt and bled for months after but now it's been almost five years now and it feels like it's just a natural part of my body and doesn't really give me any trouble unless i get a yeast infection or something. i don't dilate or maintain it in any special way anymore.
>>40712662
some of the biggest "advances" would be simply sending trans women with issues to gynecologists and pelvic floor therapy.
"just dilate more" does not help if the problem is tissue irritation subsequent to vaginosis. in fact it may hurt (personally i had an experience fairly early on where NOT dilating for a week make me DEEPER). and while dilation might be a part of pft a little direction would be immensely helpful. but the medical system is mostly not interested in treating us as it would treat women (and it treats cis women poorly too) so we get dismissed. all problems are due to surgery and have no cure.

>>40712741
You don't dilate at all? Any depth reduction? I saw someone talk about their own pussy, and they mentioned they'd have to dilate all their life, just farther away as time goes since their body would get used to it. But you don't have to anymore?

>>40712792
when i do stick the dilator in to see it's always at the same depth. And I'm not really dilating even then if I'm just sticking it in for 30 seconds to measure. So no I don't dilate. Idk why doctors lie about this. They probably believe it too, and it inhibits some of the other stuff I said about the best way to treat us from becoming as commonplace as it should be.
My doctor was like "well that's not what I'm supposed to tell you but if it works great." So does he know better but somehow believe he shouldn't say it? Is he refusing to accept that his patients provide more accurate information about the results of surgery than some conjecture in some paper he's ready? Idk. The undercurrent that all trans people are delusional is strong.
Don't get me started on the microflora issue. I have good pH and apparently normal flora. When I don't (and let's be real a nontrivial portion of all women have BV right now and some kind of vaginal infection occurs in practically all women at some point during their lifetime), and when I am treated in the same way any other cis woman would be treated, I am helped. I sometimes get the impression doctors consider that to be a psychological thing and not a physical health issue.
At least half the papers on the subject declare that trans women are defective and cannot be helped. Some of them attempt with mixed success, which they usually interpret to mean we cannot be helped. I had to search and have to search to find a doctor who tells me more than "douche more" and sometimes with harmful substances like soap. That is the official ACOG recommendation for trans women. It hurts me and makes my vagina tight and short (but not permanently so...). I can certainly see how someone who decides to soap-douche twice a week will come to the conclusion that dilation is hopelessly difficult and a losing battle and that sex is impossible. I sometimes wonder if some of the horror stories are a result of that kind of shit.

>>40712870
Just for reference, can you say more about the surgery you got? The doctor too if it's not too specific/doesn't doxx you? It's nice to have references you can whip out if a friend is wondering about it, for example, and so far from what you're saying yours sounds pretty nice

>>40712741
Honestly every trans person should just accept that they have to git gud at advocating for themselves in a medical setting. Even if 99% of your issues can be solved the same way as it would for any other woman, I can understand doctors not wanting to expose themselves to litigation should something unanticipated happen. I dislike it, but I understand it. I think some really basic education about women's health issues would help a lot. I talked to someone on here who at least claimed to have SRS but told me she didn't know you were supposed to wipe front to back after pooping!?

>>40712647
Oh I'd say my fav oone is when I'm on a chair and she rides me reverse cowgirl kinda. Then prone bone is kino but my hand/arm will get numb.
Man pussy is the best! After my husband of course desu desu

>>40712903
it was ppt and in the us, but i don't like saying the doctor. it's probably unique on this board and especially with the rest of my stories it is.
people venerate ppt but i don't think it's required for any of what i've said. i do think it has less prolapse risk which i think is a major component of "vagina shrinking," and I do think it is the best method. I wouldn't avoid getting a vagina if it wasn't available though. (I think I would avoid colon method though).
a lot of my experience is related to learning and pushing for myself. if I did everything the medical system told me to I'd have permanent bv which i am trying to cure with dilation.
i found intravaginal estrogen useful too but i had to push hard for that script. oddly i now have that but no regular estrogen (somehow that's "gender affirming" and demonized).
>>40712921
yeah... vaginal soap should be malpractice but somehow is standard. they can get away with malpractice against us and desu some of them know it. and as i said there is always that undercurrent of "trannies are delusional and any treatment we give them is psychological placation"
am I on vaginal estrogen as a placebo or because it is a physical help? why do doctors place "i've decided that it shouldn't help because it isn't good for men to put estrogen on their penis" over our actual report? why is intravaginal estrogen in a neovagina compared immediately to men putting estrogen on their penis? I don't have a penis!
and your mom is supposed to teach you how to poop when you are two so the medical system sees no need to do that. I feel like blindness to the reality of our situation is common.
i had a doctor tell me once she wishes she got more trans patients. her receptionist had refused to let me schedule when i told her my history. only through a referral did i get in
I've had to beg for antibiotics and I don't think anyone understands that I cannot just go get uti medicine from my pcp. i blather but im at 2000 chars

>>40713006
what i mean is that even the good doctors don't understand what we're up against. their own staff drive us out. they give us referrals to doctors who cancel on us.
i once tried a urologist. when i explained my problem i was told to go to my gynecologist! admittedly my vagina was involved, and that is a female part. but that only works if i have one, and they told me amabs can't see them. and these are gynecologists who advertise that they take trans patients lol! this shit is endemic.
it took multiple years to get treatment for a condition most cis women can have solved in under a week. and the one who treated me told me not to come back!

i am particularly salty because my doctors quit and I think i have bv right now and i got a letter saying the office would refer me but when I called I was told it wasn't necessary for me to have a gynecologist.

>>40713059
I hate that, I really hope this gets reported or changes in the future, it really sucks you had to deal with that. Why did the doctor who treated you told you not to come back?

>>40713473
he said he didn't know how to treat trans women which is ironic because he did know and the one he told me i need to see did not know. I fear the more they "learn" about trans health the less they know.

>>40712523
thats just the layer of skin, not all the internal sensitive stuff lol

>>40712741
omg the same thing happened to me(>>40709823). Dilating just made me lose depth because that's what my surgeon kept telling me to do! Then when I backed off it became one hundred times easier but by then it was too late... it's one of those things where I feel like a guinea pig for the science because they haven't actually figured out all the kinks yet. I honestly thought they had it all figured out when I went into surgery, but afterwards I can really just see how new the field is desu. With like 90% of problems besides just slightly prettying up the aesthetics externally, they're really just winging it all.

>>40713815
the sad thing is if you go look at stuff written for cis women with vaginismus or having reconstructive surgeries you'll find all this stuff is figured out. they WANT us to have defective vaginas and deny any information to the contrary.
i think overdilation is like a huge. and you're putting so much lube up there you are doomed to have dysbiosis. to some extent that's unavoidable at timeframes like two weeks after surgery (there's good reasons to have dilation then) but when there's no attention to long-term prognosis it's a problem.
and cis women aren't told that their (reconstructed) vaginas are doomed to never work correctly nor given advice that creates that situation.
have you been to a competent doctor/pelvic floor therapist?

>>40713871
Yes, unfortunately they're not really able to do anything barring a canal replacement at this point. I don't have the time, money, or strength of mind to make that happen right now, unfortunately. Not to mention, I have issues with plenty of other stuff like sensation that aren't really fixable in any sense either.

>>40708986
prostate shrinks on HRT. most tranners past five years on HRT don't have any sensation there

im scheduled with dr bank at the suporn clinic, is there anything i need to worry about like whats being mentioned in these threads with dilation and such?

>>40714357
I mean, yeah? It's the same stuff going on, you aren't magically immune for going to a certain doctor lol. Lots of these issues show up in suporn girls just as much.

>>40714357
just get fucked early and often so you learn to like it ;)

>>40714357
yeah you still have to worry about this stuff
(a) you'll have to worry about having a vagina and issues arising from having a vagina for the rest of your life
(b) a good doctor doesn't mean you don't have to take care of your body while it heals
and desu i won't say anything against their work but the thai doctors are big offenders on the give-bad-advice-then-blame-the-patient thing

>>40715572
this, famously the thai doctors are like no help after you go home and then start having issues

>>40715572
>>40715594
What would you say would be better then? What advice would you give someone who's planning to get it? Any big ones you wish was given more/you wish had been given to you?

>>40715594
these after all are the people who say to dilate four times a day for an hour each time for like two years. we've already talked about how that can be counterproductive, but it's actually designed to be impossible so they can blame the patient. they also say you can never see any other doctor so good luck if you ever get a uti. fly to thailand i guess
look there's plenty of people with good vaginas that went to thai doctors but they are actually particularly bad at this aspect.

>>40715681
Why do they have such a big reputation for this if they're so bad?

>>40713006
>claims to not regret srs
>never names the surgeon

>>40715670
i've already said all that over and over again in this thread
i wrote some more in >>40712803
biggest thing though is to be willing to read a lot of personal stories and do a lot of research on your own and go against received wisdom where it seems to fall short
>>40715705
there's a lot of doctors willing to do it and it's relatively cheap (and if you're american remember that for a lot of the world outright purchase is the only real option because the state run medical system doesn't consider it legitimate medicine)
they also make vaginas that look good in pictures at least from some people (if american remember that circumcision is not common for non-jews outside this country). many lust after having a vagina that looks like one they saw in a picture without much regard for other practical issues.
i'm not a fan of suporn's chonburi organ either since it's anatomically wrong but like I said there's plenty of happy women who went to thai surgeons. just be aware of their faults. or go elsewhere, but then you'll have to be aware of THEIR faults.
>>40715753
besides anonymity and the reality that he doesn't do srs anymore or at least stopped for a few years (I haven't kept up) I am against this veneration of specific surgeons. 90% of them are fine at least as far as the actual surgery goes. the rest of this.. well.. you need a good local doctor-not a surgeon-for long-term care anyway. and even if your surgeon is local, surgeons look at everything with scalpel-colored-glasses which can be counterproductive.

>>40708913 (OP)
If you have a penis and you’re not having sex, fun, or feeling good when you’re orgasming, you’re doing it all wrong

>>40715817
Thanks for completely missing the point of the thread.

>>40715797
i dont think youve actually gotten srs

>>40715953
i definitely have a vagina lol

>>40715670
It's a gamble like anything in life. it depends how bad you want it plus random chance.

I went to chet and love my result.

>>40715953
nta but why wouldn't a larper just name a surgeon? It's not like that's top secret info

>>40716077
If the surgeon didn't do that for long/didn't do a lot of them it can definitely doxx someone, especially if they also posted about it under their name

>>40716546
which is why i don't say. also i could easily just lie. also somebody determined enough could figure it out; it's not like there's an enormous number of srs surgeons and the number who match every fact i've given is.. one
and I shouldn't post this on 4chan but you could probably find my real name with enough effort here

Some days I really wish my gf had a vagina, I want to have a kid with her so fucking bad but we can never talk about it as I know it'll cause her a world of pain

>>40716589
For what it's worth, your openness about your own experiences, and the advice you've given here is honestly very useful and appreciated

>>40716598
:( i'm sorry anon
i know it may be upsetting to hear, but if you really want kids, you don't have any obligation to stay with someone who can't give you that. it sounds like you might be be happier with a cis woman, and this sort of incompatibility is a valid reason to consider seeing other people. it doesn't mean you're a bad person or you don't love her: you're allowed to want things.

>>40716641
yeah that's why i do it's just a little silly to get accused of larping. i've posted quite a lot of shit of my experience in this thread and others, and i can't imagine what my goal in making all this up is supposed to have been?

>>40716677
I would never leave her, she's my angel and we've been together for over 2 years in complete happiness, I'd love to have a kid but I know it won't happen, our love transcends the thought of having kids together

I have this problem where I can't stay aroused if I touch my dick or get hard, the feeling just instantly goes away. Has anyone had this problem and fixed it with srs? I just can't have a satisfying orgasm, I can make myself cum with a vibrator but it's just not very good and nothing like the full body feeling people say they experience.

>>40708913 (OP)
you’re so real for this nona. really sucks to not be able to get proper sexual pleasure without being reminded of my maleness in some way. it’s such a cursed existence. not even mentioning how srs could go wrong or not being able to give a guy kids

>>40716721
nah, srs made it less full body for me desu

>>40713761
I want to try to frot with a transwoman's inner gock... rub penis against scrotum... against the shenis....

>>40717349
what was it like before and after?

>>40713006
>>40713059
ty for all your advice anon this is really helpful. i hope i can make it one day like you. you are an inspiration

>>40716708
thats really mature of you anon i'm sure she's blessed to have you. have you thought about adoption?

>>40708913 (OP)
same :( i hate sex i wish i had a body that was good for sex

>>40717589
most of what i said was that i don't have medical care that's not an inspiration. at least i have a pussy and know what i need i guess...
also i wish my bf could impregnate me.