Thread 40729835

Genuinely what’s Blanchard’s explanation for bisexual/pansexual transgender girls? Are they both AGP and HSTS or a third secret thing? Doesn’t seem to make sense in my mind

no, they are just agp
hsts is a category because exclusive androphilia is so rare in amabs but relatively common in trans women

>>40729841
Yeah so his theory is fucking stupid basically, even if you’re attracted to men at 99% you’d still be considered a woman-fetishizer, make it make sense

HSTS are gay men that become trannies to escape societal persecution (lol) and trick straight men into having sex with them (lmao)

AGPs are confused sex fiends or something

Blanchard has an arts degree in sexology - he has never studied neuroscience beyond a layman level. He invented the hsts vs agp dichotomy by interviewing a few dozen "trans" people in a Canadian hospital.

it's all pseudoscience and pseudointellectualism

>>40729895
because not being attracted to women AT ALL is really rare - you don't seem to get that
>>40729917
If HSTS were treated worse than effeminate gay men, they wouldn't transition. Nobody takes actions to deliberately make their lives harder.

>>40729835 (OP)
Blanchard doesn’t believe in bisexual anything
He says it’s pretty much impossible for a person to like both genders equally and that most bisexuals are really just straight

>>40729946
Is he retarded

>>40729962
no, you aren't seeing it from his point of view
only HSTS actually have native femininity - fagcents
bi/lesbian trans women just act like autistic straight men

>>40729962
He made some self identified bi men watch straight and gay porn and then measured how hard their dicks got
All the men got harder at one or the other none of them got hard at both equally
He deduced that bisexuality is a myth from this

>>40729924
>If HSTS were treated worse than effeminate gay men, they wouldn't transition. Nobody takes actions to deliberately make their lives harder.
i'm going to simply ignore your retarded assertion. (you) and this board have reduced to HSTS v AGP to a manichean dichotomy that bares no relation to Blanchard's sexological thought bubble; HSTS are merely the good guys and AGP the bad guys. you have taken to self identifying as the former, because you are retarded and have rockbottom self-esteem. young people used to get into cool subcultures like goths and emos - it had music and fashion, you can still do this btw.

>>40730002
gay men pretending to be women isn't good at all, it's just a different thing than men who don't have a fagcent doing it - the motivation is different

>>40729983
Bisexuality doesn’t mean being exactly equally attracted to both genders lmao this is so stupid

>>40729835 (OP)
>Doesn’t seem to make sense in my mind
none of his theories make sense. he also thinks asexuals are AGP, but they're so immensely attracted to themselves they don't need to fuck other people. if an asexual says they have NO sexual attraction and that includes to themselves, he says they're lying
he's a fucking retard lmao

>>40730053
In Blanchard's that’s the only type of bisexuality that would be valid
Otherwise they’re just straights/gays in denial

>>40730075
Blanchard is incredibly more retarded than I thought before creating this post

>>40730064
psychology is literally the biggest pseudo-scientific discipline in existence, you can ignore most of it beyond neuropsychology and massive wide-ranging meta-analysis.

>>40729835 (OP)
he doesnt have an explanation for anything at all. the dude literally doesnt even believe that we have dysphoria, and makes his "studies" say what he wants by falsifying and discarding information at will. he understands being trans less than the average person whos never read about the topic and never met trans people. i will never understand why people on 4chan are so obsessed with him and his childish typology when everything hes ever said is completely retarded and nobody outside of 4chan gives a shit about him and actual scientists dont read his papers anymore. this really is just an online mental asylum.

>>40730124
>literally doesnt even believe that we have dysphoria
you don't
it's a vague excuse for antisocial behavior you cannot rationally justify

>>40730137
imagine having a migraine attack and then having some mouth breather come up to you and try to convince you that you are, in fact, not in pain, and are using your fake headache as an excuse to slack off. inagine how utterly retarded that mouth breather would seem to you. dwell on that.

>>40730124
>i will never understand why people on 4chan are so obsessed with him and his childish typology
its literally just teenage contrarianism, blanchard is not politically correct among the main so this board needs to be blanchard's only defenders. half the trannies on here were "neo-nazis" before trooning, its the same thing.

>>40730161
a lot of actual doctors do stuff like that. if a doctor knows you're diagnosed with any mental illness like anxiety, they're much much more likely to just brush off any pain you have as a symptom of your mental illness.
t. have sadly seen it happen to MANY people

>>40730181
Did you know that not that long ago doctors used to lobotomize people to punish them for being gay?

>>40729917
"interviewing" is that what they called it in those days

>>40729924
>If HSTS were treated worse than effeminate gay men, they wouldn't transition. Nobody takes actions to deliberately make their lives harder.
if gays were treated worse than straights, no one would come out
i can larp as a retard too

>>40730124
>i will never understand why people on 4chan are so obsessed with him and his childish typology
because a lot of people on 4chan are miserable people who get off on hurting others, and a lot of other people on 4chan are miserable losers who get off on hurting themselves

>>40729841
>exclusive androphilia is so rare in amabs
Actually it occurs EXCLUSIVELY in AMABs.

>>40730124
>nobody outside of 4chan gives a shit about him and actual scientists dont read his papers anymore
Unfortunately not the case. Citations of him might pop up in Zucker's work and he shaped the DSM-V entry on GID pretty much entirely by himself.

>>40729974
>only HSTS actually have native femininity - fagcents
Are you the one guy here pushing that? Because that's not empirical at all, and the empirical evidence we have suggest that "fagcents" are subtly put on *when socially acceptable,* not innate. I don't sound gay because it was never okay for me to be gay growing up, so I became a woman. (That's not ok either but I'm more comfortable.)

>>40729835 (OP)
Autogynephilic bisexuality (formerly pseudo-bisexuality) is acknowledged by Blanchard, but its different from standard issue bisexuality.
Autogynephilic bisexuals usually aren't "truly" androphilic, but are attracted to the self in sexual relations with males.

As an aside, AGP is correlated with GAMP, which is a form of bisexuality (think attraction futas and femboys).

>>40729835 (OP)
why is this board so obsessed with blanchard when nobody else gives a shit about him or his theories?

>>40729835 (OP)
>Blanchard’s explanation for bisexual/pansexual transgender
agp.
the reason they're bi / pan is because psychologically during sex the object of desire for them isn't the partner, but the self. hence agp is an autosexuality. they don't beat off to channing tatem specifically or even sydney sweeney because they're effectively too autistic. the partner is no more than accessory to the fantasy than a pair of shoes or some lingerie.

>>40731690
Because AGP is so obviously real to a sizeable minority of users on this website.

>>40729895
No. Being with a man satisfies the AGP’s autosexuality (I’m so feminine because a man is fucking me), she isn’t actually aroused by his physical features at all. No AGP is truly bi.

>>40729835 (OP)
>what the fuck is Newton's explanation for quantum physics?

>>40730109
You are supposed to realize this sooner or later. Congratulations, now you can forget about him.

Honestly, I think his theory is incomplete but its certainly better than nothing. I seem to prefer the company of dudes but my experience seems to fit his idea of "AGP" better, but I do think he needs to come up with something better for bisexual trannies who were sort of effeminate as kid but able to suppress it and later embraced it in an AGP sort of experience.

>>40732101
I've seen a few other dumb kids say "well I feel like both" when they learn about HSTS and AGP so I don't think I am the only one who thinks this

>>40729835 (OP)
"bisexual" trannies are just meta attracted transbians

>>40731690
I have yet to see anyone come up with something better as shitty and oversimplified as it is lol

>>40732113
I liked men back when I was telling myself intensely I would never fall to trannyism, so I don't see how that would explain it.

Damn, this thread is ignorant. So many people willing to complain about a theory they know nothing about. Probably because it exposes their fetish.

>>40729835 (OP)

It's called pseudo-bisexuality, it's part of an AGP's meta attraction.

>>40732143
I seem like a textbook AGP, but I had my boyfriend long before any of this tranny bullshit gripped me. Again, fix your fucking theory it only captures like 60% of the story.

>>40730064
if an asexual has had sex with women and currently dates women, would you call them a liar?

>>40732162
NTA, but AGP doesn't appear when you transition, its an innate sexual orientation.

>>40732101
depends. does it matter who the dude is or can any dude just sub in? if it's any dude / faceless men you fantasize about fucking you instead of hayden christensen, ya that's pretty agp. but if all you can think about is having a light saber fight with hayden while dual of the fates plays in the background, you might be androphillic.

>>40732283
Go on /hm/ right now and see how many posts are literally just faceless, muscular men with big cocks lmao

>>40732254
I think I had a thing for trannies before I ever entertained the idea? I distinctly remember acting very masculine in high school, but sometimes I would see the nerdy cis girls and be jealous of how much nicer their way of thinking seemed to be and how it was superior to mine.
>>40732283
Nah I def have a type, I find some men very cute and have had sex dreams with more men than woman lol. I only watch straight porn though, but I think that's just a habit from not wanting to be "the guy who watches gay porn in secret"

>>40732316
that's part of it.

autosexuality they care less about who the partner is as they've succumbed to their narcissism. meta attraction is wanting to suck a dick not because of who it's attached to or you finding them attractive, but because the idea of looking at yourself from an outside vantage point, and seeing yourself sucking a dick gets you off. hence, autosexuality the object of desire or worship is the self, even if it means /defiling/ the temple. they don't want to suck the dick because they want to get on trump's good graces (like for a political favor at a later date). they just want to suck a dick because they idea of them sucking a dick excites them.

>>40732328
watching straight porn doesn't mean you're straight as there's a dick in it. makes you bi / autosexual.

>>40732348
So now you're going to claim that all the guys posting on /hm/ are agp, even though gay men are pretty much the only "true" androphiles in existence?

>>40732399
autosexuals, not necessarily agp.
autosexuals are things like bi guys that only bottom for other guys, but top women.
agp is a specific flavor of autosexuality because in their fantasy the idealized version of self is a woman.

the majority of pornography is consumed by men, not women.