Thread 40744568

So if trans women are female womanly women who are women, why are so many of them concerned that their boyfriend may be gay? Why would a gay guy want to date a female woman?
The new narrative trannies are pushing is that they have become female in mind, body, and soul. Not just their gender, but their sex has changed into female or at least female-intersex. Why would a cisgendered gay male have any interest at all in a female? Why would it even need to be a concern?

>>40744568 (OP)
i dont care if hes gay i'm a trans woman

>>40744583
Every single day we have threads about trannies lamenting their bf might be gay, asking how to tell if their bf is gay, etc. You are in the minority in having a rational mind about it.

>>40744568 (OP)
Because they're obsessed they look male and that people around them are being too gentle about it. Hence they're worried their boyfriends are gay or bisexual-and-love-them-like-a-man because they're worried no straight man could look at them and not be repelled.

This is entirely coherent; they aren't secretly feeling 100% like men tricking other men, they feel like they're trapped in a body they're trying to make work and then since they know how they started they're worried men can only see them as a man subconsciously or even consciously.

>retard hasnt seen what happens to women women when their bf comes out as gay
they prolley handle it worse than trannies lmao. all women are retarded thats how you know trannies are women

>>40744568 (OP)
trvth

>>40744568 (OP)
because trans women are not seen as female womanly women by others and often carry lasting effects of testosterone. we have bodies that make most see us as men, and many of us also lived as boys for long enough to hear locker room talk about how gay it is for a guy to have sex with a tranny. also my dad thought my bf was gay for being with me initially. there's a lot that goes into it you just haven't been in the position to have to think about it

>>40744568 (OP)
Because trannies are only meta attracted to men
everything is about appealing to their meta attraction and anything that doesn't makes them rage

>>40744568 (OP)
have you tried not asking stupid questions
the answer is OBVIOUS
this is not worth asking or replying to

>>40746906
If it's so obvious why can't you tell me?

>>40744568 (OP)
Someone who wants to be a woman doesnt want to be in a relationship with someone who only likes them as a man
This is very simple ,and seems mostly like a worry for pre HRT trannies

>>40747289
probably because they are insecure since they were obviously not born AFAB but had to transition?

>>40747360
That doesn't make sense. Whether or not they feel "secure" should not matter if HRT does indeed render them a female in the end, and gay men have no interest in females. Because they're gay.
>>40747356
Once again, why would a gay men enter a committed relationship with a female? I mean I guess it DOES happen to cis women too, but it's not something they typically obsess over. You don't hear cis women lament that they can't find a straight boyfriend.

>>40747449
>and gay men have no interest in females. Because they're gay.
uh huh well a cis woman would also feel negatively upon finding out her boyfriend is gay, cis women just don't need to worry about whether they're perceived as female because they are born AFAB
trans women obviously worry about it...for obvious reasons..? because they want to pass and fear they're not passing? because they were not born female and had to take hrt and things to be able to or try to pass? and they fear they didn't succeed? because of this thing called dysphoria where you're wishing you were of the opposite gender/you think you are but your body does not align with that?

>>40747493
If you think a gay man would want to deal with all of that mess rather than just date a gay male, you are utterly delusional. Why would a gay male subject himself to the torture of dating a psychotic female? There's an entire genre of gay man who is gay only because he cannot/does not wish to engage with females. How special and important do you think you are that you can sway a gay man to being into you?

>>40744568 (OP)
I like trans women.
I like cawk.
I don't want a trans woman who won't let me play with her cawk
As long as I have a trans woman who will let me play with her cawk, then I'd have no desire to be with men.

>>40747537
...I am just telling you what goes through brains of the people that you asked about. 'I look like a man, therefore my boyfriend must be gay, or he would not be attracted to me' is perfect surface-logic. you can then try to deconstruct that to show how it's nonsensical, but like the point is that those people expressing those thoughts do not do that.

it's like asking "why would anyone have OCD, washing your hands 1 time is enough according to all the studies and etc etc, so what kind of person would do it 50000 times in one day? who do they think they are, do they think they have some kind of unique biology where germs stick to their hands despite using soap when that does not happen to 99.9999999% of other people?" - and yet there are people with OCD. it's irrational, that is the point

>>40747598
Reeks of vulnerable narcissism to me. They are exactly like females in that regard.

>>40747661
if you want to call it that
i would say something like "being insecure" or "having low self-esteem", or "being delusional" in especially bad cases, assuming the trans woman in question doesn't actually look like/pass as a man easily (and does not pass as a woman at all), in which case it makes more sense to think that

>>40747717
A lot of people have misconceptions about narcissism. All narcissism stems from insecurity and low self-esteem. Vulnerable/covert narcissism displays itself in a very different way to overt/confident narcissism so it often isn't picked up on. Vulnerable narcsissists are the type to say shit like "I'm such an ugly moid no one will ever love me" on an anonymous image board so they can generate sympathy and attention.

>>40747449
Bekause not all trannies pass ,and some ,mostly pre HRT ,look male

>>40747863
Females can look male, that doesn't mean they aren't female. Are we really going to boil one's sex down to appearances?

>>40747879
Pre HRT trannies dont just look male ,they are also male in sex unfortunately

>>40747922
Well in that case, how could they ever expect a straight man to be attracted to them? Straight men are only attracted to females. They ought to become female first, then worry about attracting a straight man. Or maybe stop fetishizing a sexuality.

>>40744568 (OP)
bait used to be believable

>>40747965
Ngl ?what even is your point

>>40748072
Life is very simple, but people insist upon making it complicated.

>>40744568 (OP)
are you being intentionally obtuse? do you seriously need that explained to you?

>>40747752
what can a vulnerable narcissist do to stop being one

>>40748223
Well, the root cause is insecurity and low self-confidence. Anything that can be done to remedy those two issues can help alleviate the compulsions that drive vulnerable narcissism. The problem is that vulnerable narcissists do not typically act upon any advice they go out and seek, because the purpose of seeking helpful advice is to gain attention and have people interested in them. If the narcissists were to actually DO the things that the people say, or internalize the compliments, then that would defeat the point (gathering as much attention and sympathy as possible).

>>40748380
i see. ive been trying to make a lot of those changes and i hope it helps but honestly i do worry because i have a long history of saying i will take advice and then not doing it because well.. im a vulnerable narcissist. i hope i can break the cycle soon

because they are actually homophobic closeted gay men, not women, and what they want is other homophobic closeted gay men willing to pretend that they are straight men (when they are actually masculine gay men)

>>40744603
transgenderism is caused by homophobia
no homophobia, no trannies