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lgbt is a leftist believes system, it's main points are
>people can be naturally homosexual
>homosexuality is not a disease
>gender dysphoria exists and is not a schizo mental issue
>it is possible to change your gender
any of this is obviously fake, science may proof that it's real but science has often been wrong, also it is a political tool now, for example how you can't research differences between races
lgbt ideology is basically a religion, it does a lot of wrong by normalizing pedophilia (gay adoptions and faggots allowed to work around kids), bestiality (furries and bronys), spreading stds and brainwashing people into self harm (so called gender change)

STOP BELIEVING IN LGBT
BECOME NORMAL

>>40750639 (OP)
Saaaar post hand

>>40750639 (OP)
I'm reading How To Kill Your Family by Bella Mackie, im late to the party but its a really good read. I dont have anything lined up after, any recommendations?

non lgbt believers feel disgusted at any thought about homosexuality and troonism

A belief in genome expression being influenced by dominant homornes.

Its the right wing that are faith based ideologues

>>40750639 (OP)

i'm a slightly feminine straight white male and i'll give you the most unbiased and realistic take on this that you literally cannot refute. strap in and let yourself think objectively for a moment - this isn't an argument, it's just rational thinking i'm going to enlighten you with, especially on the last one:

>people can be naturally homosexual
they are. think about the 50s where kids would get bullied to the point of suicide over being gay, or people that stayed closeted for decades. don't you think they'd rather be straight? i have a lesbian friend in a very conservative country that literally sobs in despair wishing they were straight.

>homosexuality is not a disease
it doesn't really make sense biologically, because they can't reproduce. but neither can people who are sterile so... it is what it is. it also exists in the animal kingdom to some extent. i definitely don't think it's optimal but it doesn't exactly cause symptoms or harm any different than heterosexual attraction would.

>gender dysphoria exists and is not a schizo mental issue
it does and has since the dawn of time. it's being pushed a little too hard now in a rush for affirmation by corporations and facilities afraid of being sued, and therefore confusing younger people. that being said it IS a 'mental issue' but it's not delusion. if you internally align with something different than how you were born, to be upset about that isn't unreasonable. in my eyes, being born a short man and feeling dysphoric because you wish you were tall is no different than being transgendered.

con't next post

>>40750639 (OP)
>implying diseases aren't natural
expired bait, rotten bait, bait that only a worm would bite

>>40750705
my condolences worm

>>40750705
>it is possible to change your gender
this is where it gets difficult. gender, 100 years ago, was pretty much exclusively used only when talking about grammar in gendered languages. the guy who made the distinction between gender and sex, 'John Money', was an absolute fucking diabolical freak. you can read more into him on your own time. that being said, modern definition is that biological sex (as shown in your image) is not the same as gender, which are the social and cultural stereotypes associated with men and women.
now, whether or not you like that change in definition (i particularly don't given that john money was a fucking freak and a psychopath), there always have been people who's behaviour in relation to society hasn't been in line with their biological sex. there have always been manly women and girly men. there have always been nerdy little limp wristed sissies, jacked lumberjacks and pirates and vikings, soft dainty feminine women, and short haired dykes that ride motorcycles and wear boots.

whatever word you want to call it, 'gender', whatever, you can voluntarily change the way society perceives you if you want.

i don't think anyone, even trans individuals will tell you that you can change your biological sex - that's not possible. it's in your dna. you will always be mostly anatomically what you were born as, until the technology improves. but you can certainly change the way that you fit into societies expectations of what a man or a woman are. if i looked indistinguishable from a woman besides my giant pulsating cock, and i acted like one, and i smelled like one, and i thought like one, and i whined like one, and i nurtured like one - well for all intents and purposes, i am one. or at least, i'm perceived as one.

i don't think the issue with any of this is that it's mental illness, but i think it's pandered to far too much by media and society, i think it's blown out of proportion. do what you want if you don't harm others.

>>40750714
you're genuinely responding to them aren't you

>>40750709
not this board but i've been on this website and online faaaaaaaar longer than i'd like to admit. probably since before you were born unironically. i know b8 when i see it, but the thing is

1) there's a little bit of truth behind every bait. noone would bait about something if they didn't somewhat believe it. if giving them a reasonable thing to read and think about as the engagement they desired is an option and i have free time, i'll take it. it may help them to think differently, it may not

2) if it doesn't change the mind of the poster or influence the way they think, it could change the mind of passerby who might see the bait and think 'yeah this guy is onto something!'

if you ignore retardation, even if bait, it will continue to spread. hiding from a problem doesn't make it magically go away.

>>40750715
see
>>40750720
hope this helps

i have shit to do in the morning and i refuse to spend more than 15-20 minutes on this website as an adult so i'll be taking my leave now

have a good night all, God bless and love one another and love yourself :3

>>40750720
>noone would bait about something if they didn't somewhat believe it
I would and have
>if you ignore retardation, even if bait, it will continue to spread. hiding from a problem doesn't make it magically go away.
the way this site functions is that the more posters a thread gets the more visible it is, ignoring shit is precisely how to prevent its spread here

our closest relatives genetically is 'pan', which features chimps and bonobos. both chimps and bonobos engage in weird sex stuff, often homosexually. they use sex as a tool for social bonding as well as reproduction. especially in the case of bonobos, who engage in casual gay sex almost constantly. like its their main thing. unlike chimpanzees, but much like humans, bonobos exhibit relatively little sexual dimphorism other than stuff like boobs. so its a pretty reasonable thing to assume that our sexual behaviours are 'naturally' similar.

that is to say
why do you think we are so different from other apes? why is it the case that our closest genetic relatives all express homosexuality very fluidly, but humans should be considered different?

>>40750639 (OP)
Learn to english before posting

>>40750705
>kids would get bullied to the point of suicide over being gay, or people that stayed closeted for decades
and that's a good thing, they should just stop being gay, nobody feels naturally homosexual it's a part of the lgbt believes system
how can pedophilia be considered a disease but homosexuality not? think about it
there is no difference between someone who thinks that they are joseph stalin and someone who thinks that they are the opposite gender, it's a delusion
>>40750714
there is no difference between sex and gender, again this is part of the lgbt, a limp wristed man is still a man

>>40750741
dude a dog when it's horny might try to fuck a table leg, animal homosexuality is not real animals cannot comprehend complex thoughts like ideologies
also the fuck is pan, a frying pan? hit yourself over the head with it

>>40750754
in my post homosexuality was a term used to describe a behaviour not the human social concept of LGBT issues. i would assume that was obvious.

>animals cannot comprehend complex thoughts
this is a really big topic actually. especially with apes. animal/cognitive psychologists are really not sure about how animals think. but apes often show signs of being capable of non-associative learning. as in learning that relies on cognitive 'rules' rather than conditioned association. in other words, 'complex' thought. examples might be how some apes can learn human language, and seem to be able to use it in novel untrained ways. apes even show signs of developing simple cultural practices, implying this cognitive/behavioural stuff allows them to more fully develop complex social behaviours. which makes sense; apes rely so strongly on their social relations compared to many other animals, so evolving complex cognition to allow for more complex social behaviour makes a lot of sense.

again, these are our closest living relatives genetically. it doesn't really make much sense to think that nothing prior to us had the capacity for this sort of cognition/behaviour, and then suddenly we and we alone evolved it. it was a process that began long before us and can be seen in other apes.

in the case of homosexuality, bonobos use sex (including with the same sex) to navigate their social relations to one another. its not just for reproducing. they use it to form strong bonds and resolve conflicts and all sorts. and this varies between groups of bonobos, again implying a sort of culture of sex. even if its not the same as ours.