Thread 40759938

back on my bullshit

>>40759938 (OP)
Nigga noooo

>>40759988
thought phone in my hand to browse but then no phone

What are the red dots

>>40759938 (OP)
Doesn't this have awful withdrawal?

>>40759938 (OP)
your scars are so dainty and cute

>>40759938 (OP)
BASED

>>40759938 (OP)
why would you not just do dxm instead

>>40760053
likely burn marks made with toothpicks, those ill losers are creative

>>40759938 (OP)
throw it away you dumb idiot

>>40760053
>>40761936
no they are actually just bug bites

>>40760288
sorry i missed this. i do both. i actually took this photo AFTER doing robocough. i got too much dxm tolerance too tho :x need a break.
i dont do this because im desperate and grab whatever otc i can

>>40763044
you kids are getting so desperate for self harm that youre using insects now??

>>40759938 (OP)
The path of enlightenment is now!

1: Anger needs oxygen.

2: since this is an LGBT thread, you need to know the words that start with "L" and end with "N" as well as the spirit guides associated with each.

It lies hidden in the rainbow!

>>40759938 (OP)
DPH is hell, you are actively poisoning yourself with every "trip" being your body and brain fighting for it's life. it's not worth it.

>>40763121
ive done it almost daily for 7 months and im just now starting to take breaks believe me im well aware

>>40759938 (OP)
I'll never understand why you'd use dph when you can get dxm just as easily. doing this when you're older than like 13 is retarded.

>>40763424
see >>40763049
i literally do both retard. i enjoy both.

So which cluster B personality disorder do you have? Literally every single tranny I've known to take DPH (or deliriants in general) for "fun" had one or another. Their description of the trips make it sound a lot like it's more of a self flagellation and "anywhere but here" type substance.

>>40759938 (OP)
hi five i abuse these and the doxylamine succinate things

>>40763687
how does someone enjoy dhp

>>40763687
using dhp when you have dxm is still retarded

>>40759938 (OP)
bro don't do it

>>40763829
yep thats how it is I did the same thing with lsd

>>40763993
It's self harm disguised as a trip. No mentally nor emotionally healthy person gets active pleasure out of deliriants. The OP would've been more surprising if there weren't cut marks on their arm

>>40764044
At least LSD has some decent stuff going for it as long as there's no latent schizophrenia type stuff to be unlocked. DPH "trips" are inherently demonic though. Like taking a razor blade to the brain

>>40764158
i like razoring my brain i deserve it

>>40763121
what if you only take 200mg. you don’t hallucinate at that dose just feel really relaxed and a bit out of it. that’s safe right??
t. takes that much with a vicodin, not OP

>>40764174
At least you're honest about that and not trying to "tee hee" girlyfy it like I usually see

>o ya it's intense but pretty fun. I spent 3 hours huddled in the corner of my room after pushing my dresser up against my bedroom door bcuz I kept hearing my parents banging on it and screaming at me, but in the corner of the room there was a hat man that looked just like my childhood swim coach that raped me several times. my skin was cold & clammy, my heartbeat never dropped below 180, and I had a few new cuts when I came to. but ya, it was neat and I'm looking forward to next time!


>>40764220
8 tablets is pretty heavy in terms of body load if you don't have a tolerance but I used to take it for sleep reasons and worked up to 12-14 tablets with zero hallucinations. The restless leg stuff was a bitch though. I'm also built like Shrek so some of these trans gals are taking 2-3x what I was taking, while being 2-3x smaller.

>>40763829
im diagnosed with bpd with 1-2 other psychs agreeing with diagnosis
>>40764014
i enjoy both idk what to tell you. ive done so much dxm already and still.like this
>>40764045
im not sure if i do it to self harm but ive taken it so long knowing the horrible damage it does and sometimes get heart issues from it (that tend to eventually go away, at least the worst of it) so i guess ita self harn if i know what it does and continue to
>>40764220
my max dose is 850mg and ive done 700 countless times

>>40764430
>my max dose is 850mg and ive done 700 countless times
wtf

>>40764467
i dont know how im alive

>>40764475
you aren't taking this stuff every day right?? you really need to stop either way this isn't good 4 u..

>>40764430
Have you taken actual psychs like shrooms or LSD? If so, is the DPH a genuine preference thing or due to being all you can get? I somewhat sympathize with the latter because it is dirt cheap but mannnnn I have never ever ever seen prolonged deliriant (ab)use end well. They only ever quit after (sometimes multiple) hospilizations or psych ward visits.


I hope you're able to wean off of it sooner than later. I had almost a few years of taking it daily as a sleep aid and even that was heavily regrettable. Didn't start getting the permanent damage until a year+ in, and that was with "only" taking 100-300mg depending on how far into my tolerance I currently was.

>>40764505
i took it almost daily for 7 months (think 0-2 days a month NOT doing it) and it took forever to relearn to sleep without ot and suddenly ending daily use causes terrible withdrawals only made 10x worae by the insomnia my head feels like its on fire and my entire body is exhausted
non-habit forming btw

>>40764522
shrooms yes. i genuinely enjoy dph though. it is not a desperation drug for me

>>40764522
>Didn't start getting the permanent damage
what permanent damage??

>>40764467
Ironically it probably helps that they take it daily. DPH tolerance builds up quick. When chasing a sleep/sedation effect over a week period the dosing goes like 50/50-75/75/75-100/100-125/125-150/150 in order to get the same sort of feeling I got at the start.


The really scary times are when people dose 700+ mg with days or even weeks since the last dose. Still not ideal for the body, but a bit like how an alcoholic can slam a fifth in a couple hours and be fine, but a relatively sober person doing the same would be risking alcohol poisoning.

>>40764569
my highest dose with low(ish) tolerance was 600mg
i was trying to watch a smash tournament and i kept seeing a spider in the player cam like stretching its legs out and when i looked away and back it started stretching again :<

>>40764536
If you're taking it every day, are you even getting the cracked out hat man/spider/cold hell sensations? I know the tolerance for it builds up quick and a week of daily use for sleep would see me going from 2 tablets on Monday, to being up to 6-8 by next Monday and 10-12+ by the following Monday.


>>40764549
Damaged eye sight, eye floaters, memory problems, and heart issues namely. The few times I felt discomfort with my heart/chest, I had chalked it up to anxiety and/or the restlessness from DPH. Later learned they were all mild myocardial infarctions, AKA literal heart attacks. It's insane that the first couple years of dosing for anxiety & sleep, damaged my body more than drinking a fifth of liquor every single day for ~7 years ever did, after the fact.

>>40764642
>damaged eye sight, eye floaters
that's from dph?? I've been getting weird eye stuff going on since starting to do the 200mg often
I thought it was just a coincidence

>>40764528
"non-habit forming" my ass

>>40764655
yeppp. also when did you last check your blood pressure? regular DPH use itself can inherently fuck with eye sight via that one persistent psychedelic visual disorder (even if not dosing at full on hallucination territory), but it can also be worsened due to regular & sustained spikes in BP.


Thanks to DPH, if I unfocus my eyes and stare at something slightly patterned, like carpets and seat covers used in public areas for hiding messes, things start to breathe and move around. It doesn't even have to be as intense as picrel. Textured monocolor walling can do the same thing.

>>40764691
When I saw a therapist about insomnia issues relating to thanatophobia, she recommended it to me as a sleep aid specifically because of that lmao. Unironically did more damage to my body than several years of alcoholism did.

>>40764726
>yeppp. also when did you last check your blood pressure
I don't check it often, but I take it with vicodin which lowers blood pressure iirc so it should maybe negate some of the effects
I feel like my eye sight might be more at risk from damage from it though because I had PRK laser eye surgery a year ago.
I only started noticing weird stuff since taking the dph with my eyes, worst was like kinda lighting strikes (not bright, just like a really long line in the corner of my vision on one side) it went away though

>>40764744
Magnesium Citrate is the only thing that has ever worked for me.

Always start with the lowest dose.

Not safe for everyday use.

If you wake up and you feel dizzy-like (air-headed) and a fuzzy feeling in your blood-brain barrier -that means you need to back off the dosage/usage.

Best case, talk with your doctor

>>40764777
i think magnesium glycinate is better for sleep purposes

>>40764763
just checked my bp it's 135/89
and i'm a bit anxious rn when I took it (anxiety problems in general) so i don't think it's too high

>>40764786
Thanks. I will look into it

>>40764642
>If you're taking it every day, are you even getting the cracked out hat man/spider/cold hell sensations
at some point i stopped hallucinating even on 700mg. my biggest motivation to take it less is tolerance not the whole not having dementia at 25 thing. luckily after 850mg i realized i cant just keep upping dose forever or i will literally die. the body feeling is about the same though
i tend to get too warm on it, you get cold?

>>40764763
Something to consider, if using for sedation/sleep/anxiety, is Clonidine. Technically a BP med but it's prescribed off script for anxiety, sleep, and even ADHD reasons. It's pretty damn solid for those things on their own, although they do lack that "stone golem" feeling that I liked from DPH.

>>40764777
Oh yeah this was like a decade ago. I've gotten a much better & varied arsenal for late night anxiety and sleep reasons. Mag glycinate supplement with l-theanine/asheaganda/GABA/5-HTP/melatonin. I still have citrate too, but mostly for tummy reasons. Also have plain melatonin, Clonidine, high CBD/CBN low THC edibles & flower, kratom, and a stash of Seroquel for times where I'm unable to get decent sleep after 3 nights in a row.


Back then I relied so heavily on the DPH because I figured that as long as I was taking it in "as needed" doses, I was going to be fine. Between my own experience and knowing 4 or so trans gals who primarily took it to trip, I'm always spooked about seeing people take it super regularly let alone in such high doses. All 4 eventually quit, but it took fairly major fuck ups that ended in (sometimes multiple) stays in either the ER or a psych ward.

>>40764854
>Something to consider, if using for sedation/sleep/anxiety, is Clonidine. Technically a BP med but it's prescribed off script for anxiety, sleep, and even ADHD reasons. It's pretty damn solid for those things on their own, although they do lack that "stone golem" feeling that I liked from DPH.
yeah I pretty much use it for anxiety. that's the main reason I take both the vicodin & dph because I don't feel always on edge
I started seeing a psych though and they said they were gonna prescribe me a benzo next appt though so I'll probably stop both after getting that

>>40764786
Yeah. Better bioavailability and all that. Citrate is better than nothing and it's for sure better than mag oxide, but it mainly shines as Shitrate. Those gnarly lime juice like drinks in the tummy area of stores are Mag Citrate. Basically like an emetic but for your ass; chug a bottle and you're cleared out in minutes. It's a LOT more concentrated than mag citrate capsules/pills tho

>>40764879
Benzos rock but they're worthy of caution in their own way. One of only two substances (alcohol being the other) in which quitting cold turkey can actually kill you. Even the most hardcore heroin/fent addicts can quit cold turkey after decades of use. It will be uncomfortable and miserable, but it can be white knuckled. Get too far into benzos, cold turkey may mean seizures & death. IMO you should also ask for something safer as a "daily driver". Daily benzo use can get out of hand VERY quickly.

>>40764809
I'm a 6'2" Shrek built bishit so I run warm in general. That said, other antihistamines like those in triple Cs (the devil's DXM, as it's DXM and antihistamine) made me feel warm as hell, though.

>>40764927
dont severe opioid addicts risk dying if they stop cold turkey?

>>40764927
>IMO you should also ask for something safer as a "daily driver".
they want me to take venlafaxine (effexor) too so I'm not too dependent on it like you said but I've always been more iffy on ssris/snris in general than other meds & i heard that one in specific can be extremely hard to get off of so idk about taking it and told them to let me think on it before starting it

>>40764947
for "traditional" ways of quitting, not really. ironically, severe & sustained use of methadone can lead to complications that lead to death, as well as newer experimental methods involving "rapid detox" while under anesthesia. but for someone who wants to go the old "chain me to a radiator" route? as long as they're getting fluids & food and weren't already on death's door (and self medicating its symptoms away), they'll almost certainly be fine.


The problem with alcohol and benzos is that you can be a fully functional otherwise, taking only your allowed prescribed amounts (for benzos at least), and cold turkey can fuck you up. Benzos are actually riskier because with alcohol there's a whole ladder of other symptoms that sprout up before the seizure risk is real. Talking like, throwing up blood, getting the shakes, having hallucinations. Benzo tolerance and withdrawal risk is a lot sneakier in that regard.

>>40764951
Blehhh, I totally get it. You could ask about Clonidine. I mentioned it in another reply, but it's a technically BP related med thats also prescribed for sleep, anxiety, as well as to help with ADHD (not so much the attentive issues as much as anxiety/insomnia that ADHD often has as symptoms or is comorbid with).


Trazadone is a decent med for sleep & anxiety as well. It's also an older (& I believe milder) style of anti depressant when taken long term. It was definitely more manageable than all the other SSRI & SNRIs I'd taken, outside of Wellbutrin but idk if Wellbutrin would be an ideal one for ya if its mostly standard anxiety & insomnia.

>>40765054
i'll ask about those at my next appt, i'm not totally opposed to taking the other med they prescribed me i've just always been kinda paranoid about the effects of ssris & snris. kinda dumb to be paranoid when I'm taking vicodin & dph to self med my anxiety though ig. i really should try to find something to not be dependent on the benzo though, bc my psych said even if I declined the snri she would still give the benzo, she just strongly strongly recommended i take it so i only had to take benzos as an emergency type thing instead of getting a reliance on them and i have pretty low self control in general so that's probably a good thing i don't take them on their own

>>40765116
I totally understand the paranoia. I feel like a lot of the spookiness would be gone if it didn't take like 6-8 weeks just to make sure the med isn't fucking you up side effect wise, before needing another 4+ weeks to bump the dose up and start seeing positive effects.
Also sucks when you're told that certain side effects should go away after X time, but they stick around longer. Or you bump up your dose, they get even worse than the first time, and then stick around longer. It honest to god took me the better part of 2 years to get on a solid long-term med (Wellbutrin) because you can only really try out 3-6 of these meds per YEAR.


Things with benzos, Clonidine, Vicodin, DPH, etc. is that you'll know almost right away as to whether or not the med helps & has minimal side effects. Sounds like you're already aware to not benzo it up every day at least, so regardless of other meds taken, you should be covered on that front. It's just that benzos are in a weird spot where some doctors heavily acknowledge the abuse risk similar to opiates, while others are still in a sorta "take 1-2 a day if needed, you'll be fine" medicated 50's housewife way. And that shit can & will sneak up on you before you know it.

>>40759938 (OP)
be safe okay op