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Anonymous No.40761737 >>40761908 >>40761981 >>40762176 >>40762259 >>40765340 >>40765412
Why is everything set in stone, but gender ?
Like, let's say i make someone turn asexual into a sex freak, we just end up saying that person was never truly asexual to begin with

But for some reason i can turn into the opposite gender and that's perfectly fine

What's up with that ?
Anonymous No.40761815 >>40761955
idk i think sexuality is almost as fluid as gender, if not just as fluid. the way i see it everything is just preferences we're expressing, and preferences may or may not change. maybe a better word is "predelictions"? but it's basically the same anyhow.
Emily of 4chan !vOczjEBNSI No.40761908 >>40761952 >>40761955
>>40761737 (OP)
what does fw mean?
Anonymous No.40761952 >>40761985
>>40761908
"fuck with", like, enjoy the company or presence or thoughts etc of (in this context)
also just like "i enjoy this thing" in general
Anonymous No.40761955 >>40761985 >>40762050
>>40761908

Fuck with

>>40761815

Why would gender be " more fluid " than sexuality, i would argue the opposite, preferences can change with just about anything, not being at ease with your own body is closer to a mental issue than just " preferences "
Anonymous No.40761981 >>40761990
>>40761737 (OP)
often we say you were really the other gender all along, at least mentally, so I don't see how this is different
(then we get into stupid semantic arguments with people who want to talk physically and say they've changed sex because obviously they've grown/removed parts)
Emily of 4chan !vOczjEBNSI No.40761985
>>40761952
>>40761955
I hate being alive.
Anonymous No.40761990 >>40762027
>>40761981

I just don't get why people tend to be as categoric on some things and not others which are genuinely better suited at having open-minded opinions about it
Anonymous No.40762027
>>40761990
i think a lot of it is that most people are too midwit to see that they could be saying the same thing with different words
Anonymous No.40762050 >>40762079
>>40761955
>Why would gender be " more fluid " than sexuality
i do not necessarily think it is. it certainly seems to be the case that peoples' feelings or understandings about their gender change more frequently than those about their sexuality, and the way gender manifests is, i think, a lot more constructed and artificial than sexuality, which seems more carnal and innate. BUT. i do believe that the way people present (re: gender etc), if allowed by nature and nurture to do so as they feel most comfortably, does reflect some innate feeling. not artificial. idk. like i said, i see it all as a bunch of preferences, and preferences can change! or they can stay the same for your whole life. i fucking hate ketchup and i always have but i have not written off ketchup for life because i understand that someday i may come to enjoy it. i don't ever go out of my way to eat it, though. i used to hate bugs but now i'm more intrigued by them then scared or anything else.
Anonymous No.40762079 >>40762169
>>40762050

I have the exact same opposite experience, know maybe 4-5 trans people in my entire life yet 1/4 people i know changed sexuality over the course of their life

Don't you think it's just a tranny echochamber instead ?

It's what it looks like, in my opinion
Anonymous No.40762169
>>40762079
mm. i am speaking less of, like, the frequency with which someone is trans or sexually queer and more about how those people who are those things interact with the feelings they have, but i think that you may be right.
i was just thinking about my own experiences, and i have been sexually ambivalent for pretty much as long as i've understood what it meant to have a sexuality. i have basically no specific preferences at all, but this lack of preferences has been rigid and static.
i have questioned my gender constantly since learning about the concept of gender as distinct from sex, BUT i don't know if it's actually changed at all.....when i was little i just wanted a vagina and thought i was unlucky because i couldn't be like the men with vaginas i was SURE were born that way when i looked up "man with a vagina" on the internet. my whole concept of myself as a person was that i was a boy and would be a man and that was that, but i really wanted a vagina. i learned you could transition later and did that because i thought i had to, and i've been a woman for like pretty much my whole adult life, but recently i've been thinking that it would be nice to get top surgery after i've had srs and just live as a man. with a vagina. so, like, my feelings haven't really changed at all.
that being said, i think what i really want, when i think about it, is to just be physically female but with no boobs. maybe when i was little i did not really understand what it meant to be a man? probably? i don't really i don't know what this means, with regard to the discussion, but i'm inclined to agree with you here, i think. i'm pretty sure my feelings are more or less the same now, where, like, everything is concerned, as they were before i even had to really reckon with them.
sorry for rambling lol hopefully this adds literally anything meaningful to the discussion
Anonymous No.40762176
>>40761737 (OP)
society and privilege and set based on gender and normies do not want to upset the way they have things
Anonymous No.40762259
>>40761737 (OP)
"sexuality set in stone" was a meme made by fags as a way for them to get "rights" (aka complete compliance and the equality of their relationships to heterosexual ones)
Anonymous No.40764257
People will also say that trans people were never their AGAB to begin with tho??? Don't see an inconsistency here
Anonymous No.40765340
>>40761737 (OP)
yea u were never what they assigend you were at birth thats why AFAB and AMAB are dumb
Anonymous No.40765412
>>40761737 (OP)
frequently trans people will say they were never their birth gender to begin with, so it’s the same as your ace example