Thread 40774117

why dont trans girls dress like picrel? it's literally 99% of the popular girls at my college dress like this and they have dyed blonde hair. do you guys wanna pass or not?

>>40774117 (OP)
I do dress like that minus the rips

>>40774117 (OP)
I can tell she’s Asian bc of the no hips we are the honniest race

>>40774123
Let me see let me see let me see

>>40774117 (OP)
My legs are too stubby for the long jeans look :c

>>40774117 (OP)
i am not a whore that dresses like a hobo

Same reason why trans men don't dress like picrel and instead have to have a backwards hat like a 1990s cartoon version of a kid, 300 piercings in their face, blue hair, Dr Martens boots, and about 30 different bracelets and bangles and necklaces and shit. Not to mention glitter makeup and eyeliner.

>>40774117 (OP)
You are an idiot

>>40774143
booty shorts then

>>40774117 (OP)
>>40774123
same, its a basic fit for going out

>>40774161
idk i see straight and older trans guys dressing boring all the time, it's the gay/bisexual ones who have a weird fashion sense which is more acceptable. also women like younger guys who dress kinda unique, don't you know about the performative male with the labubus and matcha and feminist literature?

>>40774117 (OP)
spaghetti straps look bad on hon shoulders, and we're way to scared to show skin. big shoes just emphasizes massive feet. we do wear jeans like that so long as they arent ripped though.

>>40774117 (OP)
i dress like that sometimes but usually with a windbreaker or smth just to add some color to the fit and maybe a cute snapback

>>40774117 (OP)
because outside of some genetic miracle cases, trans women do not have the same type of bodies as cis women, as such that kind of dress will look bad on them.

They're too fat and hairy and poorly-proportioned

>>40774117 (OP)
You know why

>>40775541
Seems to me that many MTFs don't pass because they don't do enough exercise

>>40774117 (OP)
trannies that do dont waste time here. i do and every trans girl makes fun of me or calls me too basic. im convinced most trannies want to stand out at this point and im weird for not wanting to be a visible alt puppygirl in a polycule 24/7

>>40774117 (OP)
I DON'T WANNA WEAR PANTS!!!

>>40775541
Needs eyebrows done, beard electricitied off, and some makeup.
Physically she's kinda cute, it's just her male socialization holding her back.

>>40776130
I sometimes wonder, if more trannies treated their appearance as a project to be iteratively improved, would they be able to pass better?

>>40776140
Yeah of course, but there's another side to that which is you have to recognize that we're not going to instapass on the first day of HRT. Transition is a process and a LONG one.

Female socialization teaches girls about makeup and fashion from the age of 2, by the age of 20 half of them still haven't figured it out, MtFs are expected to catch up on 20 years of female socialization in 24 hours after getting diagnosed, it's not possible.

It's also FUCKING expensive, I have to buy $200 of makeup today. A good quality hair stylist is $2500 a year. Electrolysis is $250 an hour, and thats an 80 hour beard. That's on top of doctors, medications and therapy, all for someone who is probably unemployed or marginally employed.

And we have to do that knowing that if some anonymous fuckhead like you gets a picture of our face you'll spread it around the internet to spread transphobia, which makes health communication within the community and with cisf peers who might be able to help fucking impossible.

So maybe stop talking about what trannies need to do and reflect on how your attitude is hurting a lot of people.

>>40776251
Your point is taken but your hostility is not appreciated, you accuse me of things that I would never do.

>>40776302
This >>40775541 is doing it.

>>40774117 (OP)
I dress like this but with shirts or baggier clothing instead of a top because I am still a dysphoric neurotic autist after all.

>>40776302
kek die

>>40776313
Yeah, maybe further research and development would be best focused on cutting costs. You mentioned electrolysis being expensive, can't you buy an IPL machine for about ~$400 once and use that?

>>40776345
Laser isn't permanent tho.
But generally speaking, you're right. Building infrastructure and community around the multitude of services transgender people need is obviously a huge deal, it not only means more services available at a cheaper price, it also means better employment opportunities for transgender people.

And it's actually crazy how at any level of aptitude there's a job that trans people need somebody to do, and is currently being done by cis people. Hair removal and hair styling are basic trade skills, and even before that we're huge retail spenders. At the other end doctors and therapists are professionals with years of education. And there's so much in between.

We all need to band together and deal with the economic infrastucture. When you look at the statistics, 47 million transgender people globally is a country the size of spain. Demand for gender affirming services globally is hilariously underestimated.

>>40774207
oh right I forgot, knowing who kate chopin is, or drinking powdered japanese tea, requires me to have blue hair and a bunch of shitty tattoos

I still it's kinda crazy that people are like ''huuhhh I need electrolysis'' or ''hhuuuuhhh if I don't put makeup on I can't pass'' or ''I have a man voice''.

I am being mean but it's kind of crazy that most of you actually lived as men for a few years and I can't imagine how much that affected your personalities and your worldview. Like, damn that really happens.

You also can't get mad at me because I have a mental disorder that doesn't let me have much empathy.

>>40774117 (OP)
I literally dress like this.

>>40776398
I think a big step would be to remove the medieval guild-style system around administering medicine.

Medicine should be possible at the individual level, you should never have to go through bureaucracy, informed consent at all levels in a sense.

The technology exists today for a person to take a good evaluation of their medical situation and self-prescribe or administer medicines. If its something complex like endocrinology or whatnot, (some will shudder at the following suggestion) you could just train an AI model to accurately track your data and suggest prescriptions.

Surgery is kind of inherently going to have issues, not sure how you could reduce the cost of that.

Also, there are some countries (shitholes) like the UK, where individualized medicine, which is obviously the future of all effective medicine, is heavily discouraged by collectivist healthcare systems.

>>40774117 (OP)
I'm in my 30s so no crop tops for me, and I'm not a fan of baggy jeans because those were associated with guys when I was growing up

>>40776467
Guys still use baggyjeans, it's trendy right now for everybody under 30.

>>40776467
Why no crop tops in your 30s?

>>40776495
Right. It's different from when girls wore skinny jeans and guys wore baggy jeans. Maybe I need to get over it and just get some pairs of baggy jeans

>>40776510
I don't know, it just doesn't seem age appropriate to me. No shade for those who love them in their 30s and beyond, but they're not for me

>>40774117 (OP)
i dress like this but always get self conscious doing it

>>40776453
Yeah I agree with all of that. I live in Australia where literally everything is gatekept behind a GP.
And AI medicine is definitely the future, it's just not here yet.

But it's not just drugs, it's also cosmetics (which I'm struggling with today), it's hair removal, it's affordable fashion, proper nutrition and exercise facilities. It's EXPENSIVE.

And the only way to really solve these problems is to develop the infrastructure to do it. Social organizations are a start, but transgender specific health insurance, dedicated medical facilities of an appropriate size, transgender housing co-operatives and communal housing.

When you're transitioning you're building a new person, but in order to facilitate that effectively going forward we're effectively building an entire fucking state.

In the meantime we make do.

>>40776689
That’s so scary that ur Australian

>>40776689
I think DIY is an example of a positive move away from this gatekeeping, and towards this better system.
It just needs some voluntary help from experts.

>>40776689
90% of shitposters are Australian. They are destroying the site.

I hate Australians so god damn much

>>40774117 (OP)
i can't pass in anything that doesn't cover my shoulders and waist

>>40776982
!Ep8pui8Vw2

>>40776331
cute and valid actually. sweater vests are a great option.

>>40774117 (OP)
My trans gf dresses like that, but with flared jeans instead of baggy and longer tops instead of crop-tops. She still wears spaghetti straps or even tube tops, even though her shoulders are wider than average. She still looks hot. Man, I love my gf.

>>40774138

asians are the least honned race you guys are the fetish race

>>40779032
Sybau

>>40774117 (OP)
>why dont transgirls wear clothes that emphasizes their shitty shoulder-hip ratio
gee idk

>>40774117 (OP)
I do, because most my friends are just cis women and i take fashion tips/ques from them. Im glad the shirtless/high waisted pants combo is kinda timeless in a college town

>>40774117 (OP)
i dont wear that kind of top because of my shoulders but i kinda dress like this

>>40774117 (OP)
trashy basic look
Yes you will fit in more but at the cost of looking bad

>>40774138
Honniest race is whites. White men have neanderthal faces and they alwayd need ffs to pass. Other races don't have brow bones like that.

>>40774117 (OP)
what is a popular girl in a college lol

>>40779240
Wdym? This doesn't look bad at all most guys find it hot

>>40774207
That’s no male… never was never will be.

this is the normgroid fit from 5 years ago which makes it the poorfag fit of today
the current normgroid fit is athleisure or gorpcore

>>40776251
If you dont pass without makeup you wont pass with makeup.

>>40776429
> i'm an asshole but it's okay cause i'm retarded
no, it's not. if you know you're being mean you should just be less mean. obviously you have the self-awareness to do so.

>>40779791
>>40779240
finally some people with actual fashion awareness itt

>>40779832
Everyone on /fit/ looks retarded. Kanye looks retarded. Having fashion awareness makes you look stupid, being hot is what makes you look good.

>>40779919
you will never be fashionable. i bet ppl don't even give you compliments on your outfits.

>>40779919
i was specifically talking about normie fits nigga not haute couture get a pair of salomans and mix and match some shit from TNF and Patagonia and your gorped out or walk into lululemon or ola and throw on a pair of HOKAs

>>40779931
They do but they're not weirdos that hang out on fashion discussion forums.
>>40779947
jfc i have no fucking clue what you're even saying, get help

>>40779832
>>40779947
Zoomers absolutely do dress like this in addition to less educated zoomers being in athleisure and croccs and some vaguely outdoorsy functional looking people. I work at a university

>>40779947
i can tell you know what you're doing. good job.
>>40779959
> They do but they're not weirdos that hang out on fashion discussion forums
kek yeah you're so normal and totally not hanging out on weird forums yourself and having discussions about fashion.

>>40779959
i'm talking about fast fashion brands available at every single strip mall and widely adopted and inoffensive fashion trends, have you not left the house in five years?

if u wanna be fashionable without being 'weird' - preppy for younger folks, classy or business casual for anyone else.
the way the clothes fit is much more important than what you actually wear with these styles.

>>40774117 (OP)
1. If you haven't been dressing like this since 2023 at the latest, you missed the memo and it's too late for you. Honestly, you should be transitioning out of this style like 4 months ago. It's out of style and Kroger-level normie style now.
2. This style is only super cute when you have femme waist/ribcage size ratios, and looks bad on even slightly clocky troons.
3. Finding good high-waisted, baggy-around the ankles jeans is actually pretty hard, lots of them are made badly and look like denim parachute pants.
4. Seriously, this is the basic minimum and yeah, like I said, it's old by now. The Y2K revival of 2021/2022 was only cutting edge and cool during those years. Since then it's just become diluted and it's becoming low-hanging fruit for those who catch onto fashion/art trends a few years late.

i sometimes do! i prefer full length ribbed tops to crop tops tho.
i think one of the cool things about being a tranny is how it can make you really intentional. as in you know what you like and why you like it because you've thought about yourself and experimented more than most people. sure a lot of baby trans women have awful style. but i think often trans girls can have really cool unique styles because of that intentionality. i like fashion a lot and i wear outfits that are probably not what 90% of cis women are wearing, but it looks good and its one of the things i love about being trans. and it doesn't clock me it just makes me stand out. which i like because i like attention.

>>40779258
Lmfao stfu nigger. That is blatantly untrue. Black people have the most masculine skull shape on either sex. Infact it's easy to pass as a black person because most of their women already look like men.

>>40780473
Nta but black people also have a much easier time getting hips and ass naturally... You can shave down some facial features but imagine having to get ffs and a bbl

>>40774117 (OP)
I don't dress like the popular girls in your college because i'm not a popular girl in your college. I dress slightly alt, as do most of my cisf friends, to the point where accidentally matching is a problem sometimes. I was at the pub with a cisf friend yesterday, and we both had black culottes and a black linen shirt on, it was slightly awkward. i didn't even know she owned a shirt like that, and now that I do I probably won't wear mine when she's around.

>>40774117 (OP)
I'm not in college, I'm a business owner

>>40774117 (OP)
ogrehon ribcage. you have to dress for your body type

>>40779814
Mascara and eyeliner is like 30% of passing.

>>40774117 (OP)
Because it’s boooooorrinnnnggg.

>>40780148
/thread

would the out of touch /fa/ sexpet stop samefagging pease

>>40774161
you are so mad lol

>>40780473
Simply not true. White men have ooga booga eye area, big noses, longer philtrums and no lips compared to white women and bodies are also so different.. White trannies need the most work done to look passing and feminine. Stay mad white hag

>>40774117 (OP)
this is how i dress lol if it was cold out i would wear a zip up hoodie or something over it. not a fan of these colors in the pic tho dont think they work w my complexion

>>40774161
i dress like this but with more black

>>40775541
holy brutal

i really need to see a boymoder in this outfit

>>40774117 (OP)
because thats how normie cis women dress retard why wouldnt they dress like that?

>>40774138
why couldnt i have been born asian i hate my wide latina hips so much

>>40780685
I do neither of these. Mascara hates me and if I try to do eyeliner it looks like a toddler did it.