Thread 40798269

center-left thinktank just released a list of terms to avoid to not alienate the other side and increase the chance of a democratic victory. one section was gender terms

thoughts?

https://www.thirdway.org/memo/was-it-something-i-said

>>40798269 (OP)
how about if the left just used more racial slurs

>>40798278
this tbdesu

>>40798278
>>40798283
i like "Cletus" as a sort of slur for unintelligent right-wing southern whites. i find it gets under their skin surprisingly well

>>40798294
I'm fond of hillfolk

>>40798269 (OP)
newspeak was dumb and didnt help anyone

>>40798307
lol

>>40798310
it's nice that the left is admitting that trannies got trump elected, but it's bizarre that the conclusion is they need to change the language and not tell the troons to fuck off into the sun

If the democratic party did a complete 180 tomorrow, August 23rd 2025, and became appealing to sane regular people again, they still wouldn't get any of those votes until the children born on August 24th, 2025 turned 18. Because those would be the first people to not remember this moment in history, when the dems were completely unsalvageable and loathed by the entire planet.

>>40798325
like do they think the problem with cutting kids' dicks off and stealing women's sports is the LANGUAGE
retards, morons

>thirdway
who??
another transparent attempt at splitting democratic voterbase up. if you're not new to this you'd already know that. you'll never hear from them again after the next election cycle.

>>40798294
>>40798307
Yet you are a bunch of yanks

>The problem is language! If the democrats could just get the message right THIS time all the republicans will vote for them! please please please please don't change any actual policies
>t. "center left" publication

it took me 5 minutes of googling to see the founder of "third way" is from a family with a fortune of an estimated 50 billion+, owns hyatt hotels, held a campaign party for mitt romney in their "gargantuan" mansion, etc, etc

here's your "leftist" think tank
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pritzker_family

I don't know a single tranny that actually uses those fucking words

>>40798465
isn't one of them the richest trans woman in the world and another one of them the governor of illinois

>>40798482
they could be the richest dead person for all i care

They're right you know. This performative bullshit helped nobody. You can talk about trans issues and not sound like an offputting robot. Andy Beshear excels at this.

>>40798506
time and time again you're proven wrong. leftists only win offices by being unapologetic and not pandering to your hurt feelings.

>>40798519
>leftists only win offices by being unapologetic and not pandering to your hurt feelings.

I hate to be the first to inform you but the elections that define national policy are not decided in Brooklyn. They're decided in a few counties in the midwest, south, and southwest. Have you ever tried talking to a median voter from those areas?

>leftists only win offices

Leftists don't win offices. The few that do are comically irrelevant.

>>40798465
and? who cares. many extremely wealthy people are very socially left-leaning

they're using their money to try to combat trump and trumpism. sounds based to me

>>40798519
simply untrue. yglesias is 100% correct on this (and in general)

>>40798470
that's the point
leftoids invented a bunch of "inclusive" language that none of the people they're trying to "include" actually use. its just a bunch of yuppie white people trying to sound more refined and educated. very she/they cis woman energy

>inseminated person

I spent like a year and a half immersed in queer/trans pregnancy and trying-to-conceive groups and sites and books and shit and going to tons of trans-friendly medical appointments and looking at LGBT friendly sperm bank shit in an extremely progressive area. I have never in my goddamn life heard the term "inseminated person." These people are just three references deep in some shit some right winger hallucinated.

>>40798968
as far back as like 2017 i was once corrected by someone for saying the word "mother" and they told me i should say "birthing person" instead. this shit is real. just the other day my friend casually dropped an "unhoused person" mid-conversation

>>40799012
people sometimes say birthing person, usually when it is completely appropriate (ie medical research, public health, etc--not telling someone they are not a mother or a woman).

It's also more accurate when talking about pregnancy in political/legal/medical contexts, because minors get pregnant all the time and need a lot of help, and it's fucked up to call an abused girl or child a woman.

Unhoused person is much more common than that and I don't really have a problem with it. It. I usually say homeless unless I'm talking to someone who doesn't want to be called homeless.

Inseminated person, though, is incredibly fake.

>>40799098
>i can accept red in certain contexts, and blue is just fine too, but GREEN? absolutely fake

>>40798423
literally nobody is bothered by yanks. we call ourselves yanks it just means northerners. its even one of the most famous baseball teams lol

>>40798437
ok but nobody likes wokespeak. its part of the reason that rightoids consider progressives to be a cult.
cis is the only one i like because it has a proper linguistic root and describes a group of people that otherwise doesnt have a word to describe them (just saying "normal" is too broad), rather than being an alternative for a word that already exists but is arbitrarily considered hurtful.

>>40798269 (OP)
chest feeding and inseminated/birthing person are the only ones i wouldn’t want to say

>>40798269 (OP)
Yeah. Certain words you just can’t use because they trigger people.

>>40798325
>>40798335
>dems own voters start to hate them because of dicksucking israel and not doing anything
>party does a comedic economic fuck up
>ridiculous immigration problem that sported several slogans
>drumpf assasination even further motivating maga voters
>drumpf wins
>wow, maybe we should actually fix our fucking party
>noo, its da woke well just get rid of the woke or something that'll fix it

Read the article
They have problem with the fucking "Overton window"
This glows brighter than the sun

>>40798269 (OP)
Why not just talk like a regular fucking person

>>40799759
Kamala is for they/them
Trump is for YOU

>>40798968
that one looks fake but everything else on the list looks real so it doesn't really matter

>>40799791
>Read the article
>They have problem with the fucking "Overton window"
>This glows brighter than the sun
they want democrats to win elections again. stop being a conspiratorial idiot

>>40799696
Nobody says these

>>40798269 (OP)

> Center-left
> Use far-left newspeak

KEK