Thread 40801226

>feel no gender dysphoria
>feel intense melancholia at the thought of being a cis man

what exactly do you think dysphoria is you absolute numbskull

>>40801271
Distress from primary and secondary sexual characteristics or distress from being seen as your birth sex. I feel no distress

Why does the idea of being seen as a man-which you are-make you sad?

>>40801327
Being seen as a man doesn't make me sad. It's the fact that I will only ever be a man and never anything else that makes me sad

>>40801339

you should research genderfluidity or enbyness

>>40801271
>>40801355
>>40801327
no wonder we get the reputation of being groomers

>>40801292
it's not just distress, if you felt distress constantly you would wither away
it is also a sense of discomfort/unease/depression about continuing to live as a cis person
in short, a wrongness

what makes you melancholy about being a cis man

>>40801377
i don't think someone posting on the lgbt board about the sadness they get from being a cis man is being groomed by anyone but himself

that's just existential dread

>>40801339
become more than a man- a real VILLAIN

>>40801292
odd but not that unusual. bigender perhaps?

>>40801392
There is nothing tangible I could point towards. Describing it as feeling wrong also doesn't fit, since it does feel right, but miserable.
I should have no issues with being a cis man, and for the most of my life I had none, yet this misery simply crept into my life slowly

>>40801355
>>40801471
I wouldn't have expected 4chan to be so open towards anything that's not the binary from how much enbyphobia there is in other threads.
These labels might make sense, but at the end of the day most choices still end up being binary, especially hormones

>>40801456
I know you're just playfully memeing, but that man was acting the shit out of a very wacky character on a kids show while in the throes of advanced cancer

That's normal. All cis men feel like that sometimes

weed makes me feel like this

>>40801226 (OP)
retard

>>40801226 (OP)
>she fell for the dsm definition meme
oh no no no

>>40803656
why though? I see no contradiction in op's post

>>40803957
What other definition is there? The dsm has the loosest and least practically useful definition of gender dysphoria

>>40804586
>What other definition is there?
none that accurately describe dysphoria. research on tranny shit is awful and done by people who hate us

you can take hrt as a cis man

>>40801483
if it feels right but miserable, why do you think it's right to feel miserable over this
that is not normal

>>40804615
How do I know then whether I have gender dysphoria or if I'm just neurotic af? The fact that I don't already inherently know is a big indicator that I'm not dysphoric to me

>>40805324
I feel like this is something I will one day overcome. I wasn't always miserable over being a cis man, so I reason that this is just a passing phase. That would at least be the most beneficial outcome.
Sometimes I wish transitioning would be the right option, but it doesn't take long to realize that pretending to be someone I am not won't fix the underlying issue

>>40805431
Psych
if you have noticed more issues beyond this gender thing it's totally possible

but the whole reason people don't like to say you need dysphoria to be trans is because people like you will describe deeply dysphoric experiences and then say shit along the lines of "but i don't have dysphoria because it doesn't haunt me and make me wanna kill myself"
no, you aren't necessarily going to know for sure that you're dysphoric if you are. that's the big thing, even people who have taken huge steps and are happier have imposter syndrome moments

you have to actually try shit out (not hrt or anything permanent) to figure out if transitioning might make you feel better.
maybe it doesn't, maybe you don't feel better, maybe all you need is a vrchat account and an anime girl avatar.

but in any case you don't have to live with "misery" and "melancholy." you deserve to feel better.

>>40805638
I have tried shit out in order to see whether it'll make me feel any better, and everything only backfired. Trying anything feminine only contrasted just how masculine I actually am.
I have even tried hrt and it only made me realize how horrifying a gender transition actually is.
Since everything I've tried did not end up making me feel any better, I feel like the only option I have left is resigning to being a man

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