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Anonymous No.40821395 >>40821415 >>40821434 >>40821536 >>40821544 >>40821552 >>40821661 >>40822053 >>40823011 >>40823525 >>40826814 >>40826889 >>40826928
HRT changes your sex.
AMABs on estrogen are female. AFABs on testosterone are male. It doesn't matter how you identify or if it's even voluntary.
If you were to take a cis man and force him to go on hrt, she'd now be a woman whether she likes it or not.
Anonymous No.40821407 >>40821414 >>40821509 >>40822999
transwomen are males
HRT can not change your biological sex
males that have sex with males are homosexual
Anonymous No.40821414 >>40821429
>>40821407
It does though trans women on hrt are biological females
Anonymous No.40821415 >>40821418 >>40821420 >>40821504 >>40821982 >>40827136
>>40821395 (OP)
Our bodies declare our sex
Biological sex is not "assigned"
Sex is determined at conception by our DNA stamped into every cell of our bodies.
Human sexuality is binary.
There are at least 6,500 genetic between males and females.
Hormones and surgery cannot and do not change this.
An identity is not biological, it is psychological.
Identity has to do with thinking and feeling.
Thoughts and feelings are not biologically hardwired.
Anonymous No.40821418 >>40821423
>>40821415
>Human sexuality is binary.
No it's not
Anonymous No.40821420 >>40821504 >>40823000 >>40826736
>>40821415
If you want to cut off a healthy arm, or a healthy leg, you are mentally ill.
No one is born "transgender"
If gender identity were hardwired in the brain before birth, identical twins would have the same gender identity 100% of the time. They don't.
Anonymous No.40821423 >>40821436 >>40822994
>>40821418
Yes it is. You're thinking of gender identity.
Anonymous No.40821429 >>40821536 >>40822999
>>40821414
HRT does not change your biological sex
sex is not determined by the ratio of sex hormones
transwomen are male women
Anonymous No.40821434 >>40821510 >>40823066
>>40821395 (OP)
sex = role of an organism in reproduction
male = produces small, mobile gametes
female = produces big, non mobile gamete
hermaphrodite = produces both at the same time
asexual/infertile = not able to reproduce (infertile usually means permanent)
sexual transition/changing sex = going from male to female or female to male

hope this helps!!
Anonymous No.40821436
>>40821423
idk wtf you're thinking of but human sexuality is not binary
Anonymous No.40821439
2015-2025 school teachers:
>This is generation z and alpha. We purposely taught them wrong... as a joke
Anonymous No.40821484
i was expecting more of a challenge
Anonymous No.40821504
>>40821415
>>40821420
saar post hand
Anonymous No.40821509
>>40821407
sexuality in humans is determined by gender expression, primary and secondary sexual characteristics
sexuality isnt a biology term
Anonymous No.40821510 >>40821515 >>40821521
>>40821434
"Hello human, I can't help but to ask you, do you produce big or small reproductive cells?"
Definitely a human statement
Anonymous No.40821514
This whole thread is so lost
Anonymous No.40821515 >>40821578
>>40821510
Glad we agree.
Sorry you're too stupid to have realized it earlier.
Anonymous No.40821521
>>40821510
sex has zero importance outside of reproduction
Anonymous No.40821536 >>40821589
>>40821395 (OP)
Based.
>>40821429
Post more frogs, you're gonna be right about biology and sex characteristics any minute now!
Anonymous No.40821544 >>40822999
>>40821395 (OP)
>woman = female
anon are you retarded. I have a penis
Anonymous No.40821552
>>40821395 (OP)
What about men who aromatize estrogen so that it overpowers testosterone? I'm on bicalutamide.
Anonymous No.40821578
>>40821515
Do you posess green skin and bug eyes perchance?
Anonymous No.40821587 >>40821595 >>40821602
I will never ever be a woman
Hrt does nothing at all
Biology is irrelevant
Reality is deeper than consciousness
We are just filth and we will be purged from the cosmic boot back into oblivion soon enough
My life meant nothing, I’m just a tool for others and I’m glad I could at least be used so someone else can live their wonderful lives
Anonymous No.40821589 >>40821611 >>40821622 >>40821701
>>40821536
biological sex is not determined by hormone ratios
you can't alter empirical facts because the alternate reality is based
transwomen are males
Anonymous No.40821595 >>40821612
>>40821587
I agree mostly, except the part where you said biology is irrelevant.
I think you typo'd and meant to say it's relevant.
Looking forward to your funeral! Hit me up with the details of it.
Anonymous No.40821602 >>40821612
>>40821587
gender is a psychosocial construct
you are a male woman
males that have sex with males are homosexual
if you are a tool for others your life has meaning
Anonymous No.40821611 >>40821633
>>40821589
putting a frog next to your opinion does not make it correct
bastardizing another individual's argument makes you a retard
you are retarded
the only cure to being retarded is a gun in your mouth
Anonymous No.40821612
>>40821595
I know what I typed
>>40821602
You are a construct
Anonymous No.40821622 >>40821629
>>40821589
hormonal sex is a thing
Anonymous No.40821629 >>40821637
>>40821622
It's not. You got fooled into pseudoscience by a bunch of trannies and leftists.
Anonymous No.40821633
>>40821611
scientific facts are not opinions
i adequately restated your misconceived notions about biological sex
suicide is not a cure for retardation
its impossible for transwomen to get a straight cis boyfriend
Anonymous No.40821637 >>40821657
>>40821629
It is alongside chromosomal sex, gonadal sex and phenotypic sex
Anonymous No.40821657 >>40821666 >>40821680 >>40821681 >>40821687 >>40821701
>>40821637
the only one that legit matters in determining what your sex actually is would be chromosomal anyway so what ever tranny/leftist decided to put sex at the end of those others is delusional and retarded.
Phenotype is just phenotype. It's not a "part of human sex" you fucking retard.
Same with gonads. You have gonads. That's not your sex.
Wow the liberal education system really failed your generation huh
Anonymous No.40821661
>>40821395 (OP)
>reddithon cope
you need to go back
Anonymous No.40821666
>>40821657
>the only one that legit matters in determining what your sex actually is would be chromosomal anyway
lmao
Anonymous No.40821680
>>40821657
I sometimes think I'm retarded, during these times i go to this board and look at some of the rightoid posters
Then i no longer think i am retarded
Anonymous No.40821681
>>40821657
There's also genetic sex beyond chromosomes this would include stuff like the SRY gene which is not part of the chromosomes or even near the chromosomes but still plays a big role in sex development. Genetically, it can't all be determined by chromosomes alone
Anonymous No.40821687 >>40821720 >>40821752
>>40821657
as a developmental biologist, if people wanna talk about this fr, focusing on chromosomes is kind of retarded. every cell in your body has exactly the same dna, so why are liver cells and brain cells and skin cells all totally different to each other? it's not what DNA you have that matters, it's what your cells do with it

the Y chromosome is just a signal to trigger sexual development in the gonads. if i needed to define sex, i would always define it based on how you actually develop i.e. phenotype. if the Y chromosome doesn't lead to male development, the individual would not be "actually male" that's retarded. that's like saying that because your hand has the genes to turn into a pancreas, it's "actually a pancreas". no it's not.
Anonymous No.40821701 >>40821741
>>40821589
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_characteristics
>>40821657
"well i'm right, because... because i just am, okay! and if you show me proof as to why you are right, you are just indoctrinated by the medical consensus that the vast majority of doctors and researchers who have spent decades studying this agree on!"
Anonymous No.40821720 >>40821752 >>40821807
>>40821687
continued: outside ur gonads, your cells have no idea if they have XX or XY chromosomes. they literally don't even check. male vs female development instead is based on external signals, mostly (but not exclusively) estrogen and testosterone.

so if you start hrt in puberty, your body is literally developing as the sex you're taking hormones for. my breasts don't "know" that i'm "supposed to be male". the cells are the same as in any woman, and grew the same way for the reason (estrogen)

so a trans woman who started hrt in puberty has a lot more in common biologically with a normal infertile female than any male. yes, she used to have male gonads, but if she gets SRS those gonads literally no longer exist, and it's retarded to define anything in biology based on organs or tissues that aren't physically part of an animals body.

if you start hrt after puberty, it's the same except your bones are probably dimorphic a la ur birth sex. i wouldn't say someone has to be male or female forever because of their bone measurements because it's so pissy and meaningless, but like, if you want to say that then i can't tell you to stop. but if a girl starts hrt before her bones develop in a male way then as a scientist i'd 100% say she's more female than male.
Anonymous No.40821722 >>40821733 >>40821756
trannies need to accept that they arent their chosen gender
they just arent, and denying reality and getting hung up on this argument is obliterating their optics and making them look insane to the average person
Anonymous No.40821733 >>40821784
>>40821722
They are tho
Anonymous No.40821741 >>40821842
>>40821701
HRT only changes hormonal ratios and secondary sex characteristics
biological sex is not adequately determined by hormone levels
its perfectly possible for transwomen to get a straight transboyfriend
Anonymous No.40821752
>>40821687
>>40821720
nta but you know that your definition is not the one being used in biology right now
I agree with you that the definition is retarded tho
in the end youre just talking about semantics
Anonymous No.40821756 >>40821764 >>40821784 >>40821842
>>40821722
gender is a psychosocial characteristic
transwomen that identify and present as women are women
males that have sex with males are homosexual
Anonymous No.40821764 >>40821797
>>40821756
trans women that identify and present as women are larping men, a man calling himself a woman doesn't make him one
trans women have male shaped bones
Anonymous No.40821784 >>40821815
>>40821756
>>40821733
its ok to be some third gender or something
Anonymous No.40821797 >>40821809 >>40821842
>>40821764
transwomen are male men
biological sex is not determined by the shape of bones
you are still a retard that can't explain how pink is feminine
Anonymous No.40821807 >>40821900
>>40821720
unless you undergo hrt from birth or pre puberty youre still going to have some amount of male development and even then there are differentiations that arent hormone driven so you’ll still have male brain pathways etc, as well as the obvious lack of female sex organs (β€˜some women don’t have those either’ is irrelevant)
Anonymous No.40821809 >>40821822 >>40821825
>>40821797
>biological sex is not determined by the shape of bones
well, no, but the shape of bones IS determined by chromosomes, not hormones, and taking hormones doesn't fully override your chromosomes and masculinization can occur EVEN WITHOUT sex hormones present or functional
Anonymous No.40821815
>>40821784
No there's only males and females in america
Anonymous No.40821822 >>40821875
>>40821809
Literally none of that makes sense
Anonymous No.40821825
>>40821809
oh my...
time to leave the thread I guess
Anonymous No.40821842
>>40821741
>>40821756
>>40821797
Remixing the statement doesn't make you less wrong.
Anonymous No.40821875 >>40821878 >>40821919
>>40821822
chromosomes code for the shape of your bones
Anonymous No.40821878 >>40821892
>>40821875
No
Anonymous No.40821892 >>40821941
>>40821878
yes, your bones are male, sorry sir, I'm unwilling to call you she
Anonymous No.40821900 >>40821921 >>40821956
>>40821807

yes, you would still have "some male development" but you would also have "a huge amount of female development", which outweighs "some male development" if we're talking about people's real, material bodies

the fact that some women don't have gonads is also actually 100% super relevant. you can't say "gonads don't determine sex if i want to call you a woman, but they do if i want to call you a man" you retard. if a trans woman and a cis woman both lack reproductive systems and both have the same female secondary sexual characteristics then it's very sensible to say that they're the same

also, there are literally no known sex differences between male and female brains that aren't caused by sex hormones? i don't know where you heard that
Anonymous No.40821919 >>40821937
>>40821875

the Y chromosome is tiny and codes for nearly no genes at all. the genes it does code for are only used for gonad development. none of its genes code for anything related to bones or bone shape or whatever, that's controlled by hormones
Anonymous No.40821921
>>40821900
chromosomes are more powerful than hormones - a man who takes estrogen from birth will still look and act male
Anonymous No.40821937
>>40821919
>nearly
are you an expert boneologist?
Anonymous No.40821941
>>40821892
No
Anonymous No.40821956 >>40821971 >>40821980
>>40821900
ill concede that the 5 or so trannies on earth with no testes that started hrt pre puberty are close to women bravo
>there are literally no known sex differences between male and female brains that aren't caused by sex hormones?
hop on pubmed stop larping as a developmental biologist
Anonymous No.40821971 >>40825406 >>40826073
>>40821956
every single trans woman on earth has an appearance closer to male, no matter when they started hrt, because chromosomes are far more important than hormones
Anonymous No.40821980 >>40822035
>>40821956
>close
And they still aren't entirely women why?
Anonymous No.40821982
>>40821415
This nigga thinks our bodies follow genetic instructions perfectly every time. Lol lmao even
What are hormonal imbalances in the womb?
Anonymous No.40822035 >>40822047
>>40821980
because not all development is determined by sex hormones
Anonymous No.40822047 >>40822058 >>40822077
>>40822035
Not all development is determined by chromosomes
Anonymous No.40822053
>>40821395 (OP)
ty for the transhumanist motivation anon, my existence transcends the gender binary and with any luck it will transcend the sex binary
Anonymous No.40822058 >>40822075
>>40822047
well no, but most of it, and hormones cannot completely override the directions chromosomes send you on
a house doesn't change it's shape cuz I use a different color paint
Anonymous No.40822075 >>40822086
>>40822058
They are not the sole contributor, other genes play a role and hormones play a role
Anonymous No.40822077
>>40822047
im not that anon or claiming that
Anonymous No.40822086 >>40822113
>>40822075
I literally did not say they were the sole contributor - just that they are important enough that hormones can't do enough to change that someone with male chromosomes will look and act male even if you give them female hormones from a young age.
Anonymous No.40822113 >>40822123 >>40822127 >>40822166
>>40822086
>chromosomes will look and act male
How
>even if you give them female hormones
You don't give chromosomes hormones
It's the hormones that are giving the directions for what happens in the body. The chromosomes make you produce hormones but your body doesn't respond to that hormone then they aren't doing anything
Anonymous No.40822123
>>40822113
*but IF your body doesn't respond
Anonymous No.40822127 >>40822169
>>40822113
>How
obviously they look and act male to their coworkers when they go to their job at the mitocondria (the the power plant of cell city). This really is basic biology anon
Anonymous No.40822166
>>40822113
>How
we don't understand the exact process any more than we understand why people yawn, sigh, or are left handed
Anonymous No.40822169 >>40822189
>>40822127
>ignored second half of my post
I will ignore this post now too
Anonymous No.40822189 >>40822203
>>40822169
lol I got you good
Anonymous No.40822203 >>40822225
>>40822189
I don't get it
Anonymous No.40822225 >>40822249
>>40822203
I pretended to be the anon you were arguing with in order to cause them to leave this thread and to amuse myself
Anonymous No.40822247 >>40822253
trans women are men pretending to be women
Anonymous No.40822249
>>40822225
Oh lol okay
Anonymous No.40822253
>>40822247
okay, I'm nonbinary
Anonymous No.40822994
>>40821423
Human sexuality is definitely not binary, if you think so you got taught wrong
Anonymous No.40822998 >>40823042 >>40823349
So for example by this logic, if I suddenly developed a testosterone secreting tumor i'm suddenly biologically male? that's not how it works
Anonymous No.40822999
>>40821407
>>40821429
Fucking based

>>40821544
It makes way more sense when you realize you're not a woman but a transwoman
Anonymous No.40823000
>>40821420
I think transgenderism is both nature and nurture, there has to be some hormonal fuck up in the womb but at the end of the day even identical twins lead different lives so one of them could be more open to transitioning while the other one just has feminine traits. Dysphoria can come in different levels after all, and some people will probably just brush it off and lead a normal life.
Anonymous No.40823011 >>40823111
>>40821395 (OP)
If trans women are women why can't you have sex with your boyfriend and still donate plasma? :3
Anonymous No.40823042
>>40822998

no. but, because it wouldn't be enough. not because testosterone doesn't matter.

if you developed a testosterone secreting tumor pre-puberty and it made you develop male sexual characteristics, and then you got an ovohysterectomy, that would be enough to say your body is more male than female

if you developed a testosterone secreting tumor as an adult and it all it did was give you marginally more body hair, then obviously that's not enough

retards like you always talk about matters of degree as if they're matters of kind
Anonymous No.40823066 >>40823109 >>40823164
>>40821434
Women don't produce gametes lol, how are you going to try and speak like an authority on this without knowing people are born preloaded with every egg cell they'll ever have? Maybe they don't teach that in basic biology...
Anonymous No.40823109
>>40823066
Well, the female oocytes do develop into ova at a point, but I wouldn't say this happens in what we call "womanhood" unless your definition is a bit more medieval
Anonymous No.40823111
>>40823011
Similar reason you can't, aiden
Blood taking orgs are retarded
Anonymous No.40823164 >>40823209
>>40823066
lmaooo unreal
who produces the eggs that are preloaded??
Anonymous No.40823209 >>40823224
>>40823164
a fetus??
Anonymous No.40823224 >>40823316
>>40823209
and what does it mean when the fetus produces big non mobile gamete anon?
Anonymous No.40823316 >>40823332
>>40823224
google is free retard
Anonymous No.40823332
>>40823316
hahahaha
post a frog next time
Anonymous No.40823349
>>40822998
You don't just get testosterone secreting tumors if you discover you have something like that you were likely born with it, which means that it likely developed in the womb due to hormone imbalances or due to messed up genetics.
transemily !!ptLRpSKtkEn No.40823525 >>40823565 >>40823577 >>40823581
>>40821395 (OP)
You are correct in part.

There are, in my opinion, 4 primary indicators of "biological sex", those being (in order of decreasing importance) hormonal, genital, gonadal and chromosonal.

Hormonal sex is mutable and has been since idk the 30s or smth. Plus, it is not necessaily naturally congruent with any of the other three as listed. I consider it the most important as it is the category responsible for sexual function, fat distribution, breast function, to the tinier things like how cilantro tastes and how you perceive spice.

The other sexes are generally only useful for small functions in regards to society. Genital sex is arguably mutable, but also the least strict of each sex category. There are massive variations wrt intersex conditions, which disproves the binary interpretation at birth that most legal systems use for a definition of "immutable birth sex" - an innate falsehood in the context of biology. Whilst SRS obviously exists, in both directions it does not produce an identical product and I would not consider a neovagina female from a material analyst perspective.

Gonadal sex is the definition largely used by anti-trans activists nowadays, as it is the closest they have to an immutable biological binary sex category. However, some people are born without the ability to make gonads and therefore the category is not applicable to all. Whilst TERFs will say that gonadal sex can in those rare cases be inferred, this is by its very nature an extrapolatory and arguably heterogenous definition.

Chromosonal sex is a joke as 1% of the population aren't XX or XY, and therefore the categories must be extrapolated and that is the same problem as with gonadal sex (but to a much greater prevelance).

Therefore, there is no possible manner by which one can establish a binary biological sex category that is simultaneously homogenous and immutable. The best alternative therefore is hormonal sex, it is present in all humans and is easily mutable. 1/2
Anonymous No.40823565 >>40823596
>>40823525
>gonadal sex definition of sex
>"anti-trans activists"
"People", sweetie, they're just "people".
transemily !!ptLRpSKtkEn No.40823577
>>40823525
2/2 However, some pooners argue that because intersex people exist, non-binary identities have biological basis. This is basically false - intersex people are generally naturally incongruent wrt the 4 sex categories I mentioned earlier, but crucially still have either estrogen dominance or testosterone dominance. Whilst the identity of non-binary could be superficially respected in law - perhaps - law ought still be binary as that is society's natural order.

I would support a transmedical view that hormonal transition ought precede social and legal transition, so long as such hormones are easily accessible to all.
Anonymous No.40823581 >>40823599
>>40823525
>Gonadal sex is the definition largely used by anti-trans activists nowadays
It doesn't work as an argument the same way genitals don't. If a cis person loses their genitals or gonads in an accident, they still count as their gender.
transemily !!ptLRpSKtkEn No.40823596 >>40823626
>>40823565
if everyone made gonads then sure but that isn't the case. also, most people when asked answer chromosomes anyway but that's not very applicable
Anonymous No.40823599 >>40823634 >>40823637
>>40823581
Sex is defined as gonadal development, a kind of one way street. It won't change later, so it's a good way to shorthand a lot of other biology; if you made one gamete, you assuredly won't ever make the other.

Engenderment is social, anyway. But we use assigned sex to provide the socialization and assumptions needed to turn an AFaB or AMaB into a girl or boy, then into a woman or man with continued exposure to society.
Anonymous No.40823626
>>40823596
If you're intersex, then your reproductive ability is usually just broken in some way.
This is what people cared about.
This is why confusing genitals meant you'd chuck the neonate into a chasm, since it wouldn't efficaciously make offspring later.

Just because some people are reproductively broken doesn't deny the existence of the two gamete categories. And we literally assign them "M" or "F" based on proximity to help them fit in as a courtesy to survive a certain flavor of sexism.
transemily !!ptLRpSKtkEn No.40823634
>>40823599
this which i should have mentioned - some intersex people iirc never make sperm/ova because of biological fuckery, and whilst it can be inferred it isn't an absolute and roundabout definitions are by their very nature not likely to be truly homogenous
Anonymous No.40823637
>>40823599
>Sex is defined as gonadal development
Not true it's defined by multiple things
Anonymous No.40825406 >>40825483
>>40821971
So no transwoman ever passes? Nonsense.
Anonymous No.40825483 >>40825626
>>40825406
Correct.
Anonymous No.40825626
>>40825483
came here to say this
transemily !!ptLRpSKtkEn No.40826073
>>40821971
chromosomes promote hormones but you can basically just tell them no lmfao
Anonymous No.40826736 >>40826830 >>40826961
>>40821420
who is saying gender identity is hardwired in the brain before birth? that's literally not true.
Anonymous No.40826814 >>40826857
>>40821395 (OP)
it follows that someone w zero hormones is neither man or woman
Anonymous No.40826830
>>40826736
gender identity is just a way of saying you want to act antisocially and not face criticism for doing so
you cannot identify or feel like or purchase being a woman
Anonymous No.40826857
>>40826814
only rational take so far
jarb "Kikomi" icyte !!YRVj8ER1FUU No.40826889
>>40821395 (OP)
i personally like this cope and even treat it as true but at the same time i really wish it were true because i wish hrt could give me an actual penis that could shoot ropes and give trannies their vags if they desire them too. but it never happens. you need extra surgery for that and while mtfs have probably the most successful results i dont think ftms will ever have any options that arent body horror and completely non functional and numb.
Anonymous No.40826928 >>40826939
>>40821395 (OP)
Sex is defined by chromosomes, gametes, and reproductive anatomy. None of which hormones can alter.
Anonymous No.40826939 >>40826955 >>40827058
>>40826928
That's also not true
Anonymous No.40826955 >>40826974
>>40826939
you will always be male!!!!!!
Anonymous No.40826961 >>40827022
>>40826736
>picrel
>90% of ftm's and 40% of mtf's view of gender
Anonymous No.40826974
>>40826955
I know thank you :3
jarb "Kikomi" icyte !!YRVj8ER1FUU No.40827022
>>40826961
why 90% and 40%? shouldnt pooners be lower because most of them claim to not have dysphoria at all yet still are trans? ive seen more mtfs with worse dysphoria than ftms. also dont include crossdressers with them as the ones without hardwired dysphoria
Anonymous No.40827058 >>40827078
>>40826939
Um, no. Taking hormones does not change your chromosomes from XY to XX. You'll still have a dick if you take hormones too.
Anonymous No.40827078 >>40827122
>>40827058
Almost like hormones and chromosomes are both part of your sex
Anonymous No.40827122 >>40827230
>>40827078
chromosomes are far more important or you wouldn't be pretending to be a woman online
Anonymous No.40827136
>>40821415
lmao look at this dunning kruger nigger and laugh
Anonymous No.40827230 >>40827657 >>40827667
>>40827122
They're not really important after serving their purpose in the womb. They can't even prevent external hormones from working
Anonymous No.40827657 >>40828292
>>40827230
if you were to get cut off from your hrt injection throu an anprim apocalypse type scenario or there was a shortage or some other scenario, you WOULD revert to your default. so yes chromosomes do matter.
I actually understand what you're trying to say, you're reinventing the binary with estrogen and testosterone, but there's a core and that core doesn't care about the layers you put on top. that's why people call it stealth. what is your goal with this line of reasoning, to help people with brainworms?
Anonymous No.40827667 >>40828292
>>40827230
hormones don't change the shape of your bones enough to make you look anything like an actual female
Anonymous No.40828292
>>40827657
>you WOULD revert to your default
Not necessarily if you lack the organs that produce your "default" hormones then there's nothing to revert to. That's not the chromosomes' fault. You would also keep permanent changes
>>40827667
They change your bones before they're done fusing but even if your bones are "completely fucked" it doesn't matter because bones don't determine sex the same way the size of your liver doesn't determine your sex