Thread 40834152

Think about it, it's the perfect assault on the lesbian community: convince us we're all males so then we can only date females in a straight manner and vote Trump. It blows up tons of happy lesbian marriages and benefits straggot marriages and the heritage foundation!

>>40834152 (OP)
all trans men are gaydens and only date eachother

trans women are an assault on gay men

>>40834152 (OP)
First lesbian was a trans man so tboys have dibs on lesbianism

only transbians think trans men can't also be lesbians

>>40834152 (OP)
not really, most trans men were women that like men too much

>>40836640
shit then i want to be gay and have gay relationship with gay men

>>40836696
Impossible for a dickless manlet. All of your bfs will be straight, forever.

>>40836640
women can't become men

>>40836716
straight people don't exist

>>40836726
>straight people don't exist
yet you are a product of heterosexual coupling just like anybody else

>>40834152 (OP)
girls should stop transitioning and should turn into dommy mommies instead

>>40836751
why would i do that. every man that wants a 'dommy mommy' is utterly revolting

>>40836764
fine you can also get a guy who's into hard femdom

>>40836898
probably worse

>>40834152 (OP)
nah they're ok. desu we must more of this fucked up definitions. lesbian trans man and gay trans woman

>>40834152 (OP)
Trans-anything is 100% a psyop. They want to erase homosexuality, the doctors at Tavistock even joked about gays going extinct.
Unironically the new conversion therapy, plus you can't cum and die young.
Would not recommend.

>>40837441
like 90% of trannies are gay why would they go extinct

>>40837441
gays can't go extinct if they're creating uke yaoi boys

>>40837451
>90% of trannies are gay
Are they though?
I don't think trannies can be straight OR gay, their secondary and primary sex characteristics are too scrambled to fit any real sexual orientation. They're just walking holes.

>>40837629
they're either fuck or get fucked.

>>40837441
there is no "gay extinction" things are just evolving and getting more confusing for ppl that are accustomed to the usual definitions

>>40836740
we should use turkey basters instead

>>40834152 (OP)
I'm a butch2trans guy. But I mean I still dated lesbians years after starting T. I still have a cunt man a cis woman can still be a lesbian if dating me.

>>40836640
I’m a cis lesbian and no LGBT person I’ve ever spoken to irl, most of whom are cis, thinks trans men can be lesbians. Thinking trans men are lesbians is a terminally online thing that is laughed at irl.

>>40838563
Clearly you don’t pass so yeah they’re lesbians. Lesbians wouldn’t be into you if you actually passed as male. Idk why pooners force their conversation rape fantasies onto lesbians (jk, we all know it’s because you’re moids and moids hate women they have no sexual access to).

>>40838595
The world isn't you anon people hold different values than you do.
I don't call myself a lesbian. I call myself queer, because it's the best descriptor for me.
A gynephilic woman whether bisexual or lesbian, can still be so while dating me, because I still have female genitalia.

>>40838626
Words have meaning, anon. Not a single lesbian is attracted to passing trans men and you’re a homophobe for insisting otherwise. Lesbians are women sexually attracted to women. That is the consensus agreed upon by the general English speaking population. People find it laughable when terminally online queers include transitioned men in this, dear.

>>40837451
70% of trans women are bi or straight
no study on earth specifically states that 90% of trans women ONLY LIKE WOMEN

>>40838663
Ask ten lesbians what lesbianism means to them and you'll get ten answers.
Why do so many people seem to conveniently ignore that elephant in the room that is trauma-related homosexuality?
Are they invalid as lesbians because they are afraid of men but still attracted to the male form? Are you gonna try to force the bisexual label onto them instead?
There's nuance to everything

>>40838691
lesbianism is exclusive attraction to the same birth sex

>>40838709
My cunt is the same as her cunt.

>>40838567
and what does this 'irl' look like?

>>40838691
I am literally an old cis lesbian who participates in LGBT spaces irl, retard. Touch grass and stop masking your idiotic takes on homosexuality from the 60s with faux woke rhetoric that no one outside the internet thinks is even remotely insightful, you facetious faggot.

>>40838714
not if youre on T

>>40838716
People I interact with daily through my employment, hobbies, and college orgs. You should try it sometime.

>>40838722
You're making this assumption that I'm unemployed and terminally online. Not everyone that disagrees with you are failures. I'm not even denying your takes, I'm just saying they aren't the only ones.
Since I clearly have to reiterate, I've dated self proclaimed lesbians, who've only ever dated lesbians, after being on T for years. Your definition isn't the only definition.

>>40838735
>People YOU interact with daily
Do you understand what a biased sample size represents?

>>40838749
I can define the sky as red and that doesn’t make it so. Again, if you pass, they lied about being lesbians. Lesbians are not sexually attracted to men and that includes trans men. You don’t get to speak for us, lmao.

>>40838767
The lesbians I dated get to speak for lesbians though. And they say it's a-okay.
You can go ahead and die on this hill, you're a broken record by now

>>40838663
>Words have meaning, anon. Not a single lesbian is attracted to nonpassing trans women and you’re a homophobe for insisting otherwise. Lesbians are women sexually attracted to women. That is the consensus agreed upon by the general English speaking population. People find it laughable when terminally online queers include transitioned males in this, dear.

>>40838779
Anon, if you’re going to spew homophobic rhetoric, homosexuals are going to call you out on it. I don’t know what you expect when you pretend lesbians can be attracted to men. Not to mention the fact that you’re reducing sexual attraction and being female to the sole trait of being born with a cunt. Good luck saying that shit to a lesbian irl and not getting dropkicked.

>>40838792
based
trannies are just homophobes and so are the people who defend them
the core of transgender ideology is that gay men and lesbians can be happy dating the opposite birth sex

>>40836610
By making you confront your Bi-ism

>>40838798
>we must include people with penises in the definition of lesbian
it's okay to be bisexual sweatie

What if lesbians lesbians are a psyop on the ftm community?

it’ll never fail to make me laugh seeing men argue about lesbianism with the only cis woman on the board. thank you for your service, lago.

>>40838798
Nothing that I've said was homophobic. Do not accuse me of homophobia just because I'm not tightly fit into your window you miserable woman.

>>40836740
Repressed gay coupling*

>>40838722
how old are you exactly? i know a lot of older lesbians who have issues with both trans women and trans men being included in lesbianism. I'm talking in their 70s. i know a good amount of young lesbians interested in females with facial hair, and this confuses me.

>>40838817
No one is forcing you to date a woman with a cock, sweetie. Bi women are great. I’m personally not attracted to men since I’m a homosexual.
>>40838838
Insisting lesbians can be sexually attracted to trans men is homophobic, you miserable fuck.
>>40838844
I’m 30.

>>40837330
Being a trans man lesbian is cool, being a trans women homo is gross i hate gay men, they are fetishtic and have a sexual term for every category of man theyve made up, trans women are just sissy femboy fuck holes to them because they are disgusting. I want to kill every gay man

>>40838861
It isn't homophobic. And I'm 35 so shut the fuck up you cow I have more authority on this.

>>40838861
> woman with a cock
There is no such thing but males do rape lesbians so maybe you should show some sensitivity on the subject.

>>40838873
You don’t. You’re a pathetic loser who harasses the lesbian community on the internet because no sane person would entertain your shit irl, coward.

>>40838889
says the bitter repooner harassing actual lesbians in this very thread

>>40838902
Have you decided to box shadows now? Already given up, eh?

>>40838873
>35
Dude, wtf... Why are you fuckin here man? You're so old, wheres your wife? Go home to your family dude

>>40838959
he has to tell lesbians they MUST eat his dried up tunapoon

>>40838975
You're not any better either faggot you're both lame. Imagine complaining about the lesbian community on tttt. How about you go out to one of those lesbian bars before they shut down the last 5 left?

>>40839012
you inserted yourself into this faggot. how about you suck my farts before replying with more meme fanart.

>>40834152 (OP)
what trans men besides like, buck angel, vote for trump? trans men are like the “woke”est, least conservative demographic

>>40839028
Don't you have Jojo Siwa discourse to participate in over on Xitter? At least there you can filter who is allowed to reply to your posts.

>>40834152 (OP)
I don't think transgender men have anything to do with the heritage foundation or trump considering only 2% of trans people are conservative.

>>40838889
See this is what's confusing me here. I don't think you even understood my initial point. I never said that women who date me are lesbians. I never said they must be lesbian to date me.
I said they can date me and still call themselves lesbians. They can call themselves straight too, or bi. It's not my place. What you're getting angry at right now is me letting people label themselves as they see fit.

>>40838959
Remember, you are here forever.

>>40839058
a man having sex with buck angel is heterosexual sex

>>40839125
Ofc they can say anything, doesn’t make it true. Idk why it bothers you to be informed of the fact that lesbians aren’t attracted to trans men that pass.

>>40839156
buh buh buh muh pussy

>>40839195
Yeah but lesbians will also say that dating transwomen makes you straight or bisexual. Literally you more than anyone should understand the internal spats because lesbians. Being a lesbian means different things to different people. You aren't informing me on anything but your personal opinion of what lesbianism means to you.

>>40838881
God I fucking wish they raped lesbians more often maybe then they'd shut the fuck up

>>40839226
bro why are you in this conversation. you aren't straight, this isn't about you.

>>40839225
Lesbians are women exclusively attracted to women. It does not include passing trans men no matter how many times you reply with cope.

>>40839205
something you will never have bro

>>40839241
I am straight..

>>40839262
I was literally born with one, tourist retard.

>>40839261
no trans man can be 'passing' because the medical science to create real penis isn't there

How is it a “hetprop” if pooners just look and act like ugly autistic mutilated women and not men

>>40839291
your mom's doesn't count lol

>>40834152 (OP)
If they both transition theyre gay again

>>40839261
Olive is still a woman and you're still a lesbian for liking her. I get this is why you're raging. My comments don't negate tha you need to stop being so defensive about that.
But if we're being reductive as I've been already, to some lesbians, gynephilia is the core. To some lesbians, looks is the core. To some lesbians, you must be gold star, to some others, you can become lesbian anytime. You're arguing with me as if I'm only a trans man but as I said I am butch to trans. I lived as an open butch for 12 years, and have been trans for a bit over ten. I know the lesbian scene too.

>>40839309
Never said it did. You’re really bad at this. You’re inserting yourself into conversations without even knowing who or what you’re talking about.

>>40839329
Being lesbian has never been defined as being pussysexual. Bisexual women sometimes hide behind the lesbian label, but the consensus among lesbians is that they are not lesbians for being attracted to men. It really isn’t that complicated.

>>40839349
ok

>>40839407
Glad we’ve come to an understanding.

>>40838626
>>40838714
>My cunt is the same as her cunt.
>because I still have female genitalia.
hmmmmm.... interesting terfy arguments.

>>40839349
NTA but shut the fuck up, you use a tripcode on an anonymous website, you're the worst kind of attention whore on the planet lmfao

>>40839903
Some people will judge their own sexuality on your sex. Some people will judge their own sexuality on your gender presentation. This was the only thing I was saying, and not even arguing my own points. Just stating a reason why someone might call themselves lesbians while dating me in the most basic example.

>>40840145
Amazing argument, tourist.
>>40840345
And said reasoning is both homophobic and transphobic.

>>40836726
>women can't become men
Yes they can chuddie

>>40836640
So are trans men not really trans? They're just like spicy women or what?

>>40838563
Does that make them bi? I'm trans fem and I feel weird about men finding me attractive, like its gay cuz I have a dick, but i dont want to feel like theyre only into me cuz they think i'm a man, and I hope they would be attracted to me as a women or something like that

>>40838567
Thank you, it's good to have some reality in this online cesspool i spend my days wading in

>>40841000
yes it makes them bi. 4chan pooners aren’t really the experts on lesbians they pretend to be.

>>40834152 (OP)
No one who is anti lesbian would consider a FTM x CISF relationship "straight" that would just be "advanced faggotry" or "faggotry with extra steps".

Now MTF x FTM? That is "straight with extra steps"

>>40838735
Damn... how does one get to this level? Is there another option other than rotting my brain? (I hope college helps, i feel like itll be easier to have a life once i have responsibilities, but like this phone is addictinf

>>40838767
God this is so based

Also if a trans women passed, would it be lesbian to be attracted to her?

>>40841232
By having to work. :p Then you start to get bored and develop hobbies. Which you need more money for. And it gets lonely so you yap about it with everyone. Now you have friends. They introduce you to more people. Eventually, esp when you’re out, you meet more lgbt people. Plus my work is in an area full of young, artsy people.

>>40838838
Now ur being misogenystic! You Man!

>>40841256
Yeah of course. That's apparently w0k3 and cRaZy to the repressed morons on this website. God I hate this place.

>>40838873
Holy shit its like you became a man in heart and soul, hateful and sexist. Classic male

>>40839328
Exactly!

>>40839454
Yayyyy this has been fun reading, thank you.
A man who transitioned so hard he became an actual man, inserting himself into discussions about women and womens sexuality, and a lesbian explaining that women being attracted to men is straight

>>40840345
I think thst i have the right to get pissed when men see me as a twink in a dress and call themselves gay. Even though i would never call myself a lesbian, it still kinds bugs me when people base my entire gender identity on my genitalia, even if they call themselves lgbt, it still hurts to be called a man, but i guess you like being thought of a women? You pussy

>>40840967
Yeah according to the guy arguing that women are lesbians for liking him. Idk why he decided to transition, seeing as hes just a woman

>>40839058
this is objectively untrue, you must've never spoken to stealth masc ftms

>>40841143
Thank you

>>40841289
Omg that sounds so nice actually, i feel like it would be good for me to get a part time job while doing school, but i'm a bit worried it will be too stressful, idk! Im looking forward to starting my life. This makes me hopeful, but i think i need the structure of a job, school is good but theres something about working at a job that just builds character.
My brother says i should work as a barista cuz its in my blood
I think i should and dye my hair blue and embrace heing queer,
Just for the bit

>>40838626
I'm not bothered by your opinion but there's a subset of trans man who says this because he thinks it makes him look more masculine to not care about his partner's orientation, which to be fair it might be, but I can see through the larp and these types annoy me
CryptoTERF ftms also annoy me