Thread 40905900

I liked those threads because it was some representation of my relationship that is rare irl. It made me more brave irl to know that there are other people like me. I don't even consider myself a chaser but maybe I have tendencies. I wish that cis girls and trans girls would stand up for each other, but it's hard because we have different experiences and struggles even though some parts of our lives are very similar. But I only see things getting worse, we have become more divided over time, and I see these tensions increasing in my life and among my friends. I wish we could listen to each other instead of playing oppression olympics. If you are a kind person with empathy for others that is enough for me, I care about you, the world needs you.

my gfs ex gf is dating a theyfab and we think they might be stopping the ex gfs hormones

>>40905920
tragic who would want to do such a thing

>>40905900 (OP)
>...are you still here?
yeah what is it?
> I wish we could listen to each other instead of playing oppression olympics.
same, if only we could organize ourselves politically to actually improve our lives instead of discussion what something is or isn't we would be better off...
its getting tiresome.

>>40905988
theyfabs are evil

>>40905900 (OP)
>I wish that cis girls and trans girls would stand up for each other, but it's hard because we have different experiences and struggles even though some parts of our lives are very similar. But I only see things getting worse, we have become more divided over time, and I see these tensions increasing in my life and among my friends. I wish we could listen to each other instead of playing oppression olympics.
This is really rich considering it was cis women who spurred it on.

>>40907365
ok and hurt people hurt people, both groups have been hurt in different ways which is why they are divided, the point is not just turning your back on a whole group because you're hurt and instead trying to see where they are coming from, obviously dni with bigots, I am not saying that, but don't make sweeping generalizations about cis women or trans women because that is going to make things worse.

>>40907684
I’m bitter because I’ve watched my life actively get worse for the past decade from said group’s paranoia, it’s hard not to hate an entire group of people if most of that group are at best indifferent to you losing what little you had.

>>40905900 (OP)
oh come on anon, you didn't actually believe cisf chasers exist did you? ):

>>40907684
>both groups have been hurt
the fuck has ever hurt cis women? they're the most babied class of every culture everywhere
a tranny could be gutted alive in broad daylight and people would just laugh and film it for tiktok, a cis woman could scrape her own knee and people offer to help
we are not even in the same class of human anymore and your kind is actively weaponizing and encouraging that divide to hurt us further

>>40907684
nta but I understand where cis women are coming from.. They have a hard life with few options other than being normal which mostly means accepting that they are above trannies on the woman hierarchy. It's the same for passoids in regard to hons. We are divided in reality and not because we dont understand each other. The understanding is there but knowing this cant change our reality so I accept being divided for a while

>>40905920
>my gfs ex gf is dating a theyfab and we think they might be stopping the ex gfs hormones
oof

>>40905900 (OP)
The third world niggers scared everyone off

>>40907241
yes we should I think that some cis women target trans women and put them down because it's less psychologically painful than addressing the real political problems that make them feel worthless. and I think trans women see this and feel hurt and lash out which is very understandable, because there are so many bigots.
but continuing on like this is going to get messy...
like when some trans women accuse cis women of always making false abuse allegations to the average normie woman this completely destroys all good will because it sounds like what men accuse women of.
and if some feminists keep focusing on trans people instead of men, the internet keeps pushing this content to people because it causes conversation, now trans women are entirely alienated from feminism, and why wouldn't they be? they think that all feminists care about is restricting trans rights.
To cis bigots why focus on 1% of the population that has less power than you when you could be focusing on real change?
To trans people, cis women are shown in multiple studies to be more accepting of trans rights than cis men
I really don't understand peoples' mindset.

>>40907867
>cis women are shown in multiple studies to be more accepting of trans rights than cis men
this is literally only because they consider theyfabs and ftfemboys trans, it has nothing to do with any amab tranny and never has

>>40907754
this is just run of the mill bigotry, try to wake up

>>40905900 (OP)
god i wish you were real

>>40907920
>bigotry
women are the oppressors
>try to wake up
i did and that post is what i realized after the nightmare of my feminist phase ended

>>40907903
you will find any excuse you can to perpetuate what you believe, I don't know why, maybe it makes you feel safe

>>40907684
this sounds like bpdemon speak after they split on you for the nth time

>>40907943
intersectionality is important, you are not exempt from bigotry just because you are part of a marginalized group, the reason why social justice is dying is because of this mindset, we cannot see across the aisle

>>40907867
You get it, feminism went from something I was proud to be a part of, to now the mere mention of it bringing up feelings of not belonging or hatred.
Studies don’t really mean a whole lot to a singular individual who let’s say for example lives in a social conservative area.

>>40907947
>I don't know why,
lived experience and the normalized utter hatred of amab trannies in women's space, queer or not? it makes me feel the opposite of safe and like my passport might save my life one day

>>40907963
see this is the fucking issue with cis women, you try to show them basic fucking reality and what you go through on a daily basis and they INSTANTLY start the oppression olympics up and womansplain to you how you getting stabbed in public is misogyny
you literally cannot let anyone but you just have a fucking horrible life because you just need to take a slice of the oppression pie, it's where you get all your power over people from, the same power you use to fuck everyone else over and make them play these games or die

>>40907987
Yeah I am really sorry about that. It's really sad to me that people are so cruel and it's easy to feel alienated. I do think that it's important to have spaces that are just for trans people for this reason.

>>40907963
It’s trauma brain that drives this mindset. I have same problem but it’s towards religion to the point of fantasising about burning the church in I grew up to the ground and killing my abuser because of what happened to me as a child.

>>40908034
>burning the church in I grew up to the ground and killing my abuser
that sounds fucking based do it in minecraft

>>40908041
Why I’ll just end up in jail and I’m still be crying myself to sleep at night

>>40908034
Yes I agree it is trauma that causes hatred, but I also wish that people would understand that both sides have trauma, even though it's true that in many ways cis women have more power in society, I think that both sides completely ignore that the other side has experienced trauma or is an oppressed group.

>>40908102
women are not oppressed in the modern day, they have become oppressors instead
their trauma is also taken seriously and heard but nothing similar can be said for trans women's trauma

>>40908118
>women are not oppressed in the modern day, they have become oppressors instead
this is just what MRAs say

>>40908154
the MRAs have some really good points ngl... i feel like a generalized amab rights movement could really take off if trans women would stop self sabotaging by trying to be feminism's political footrest

I really wish the MRAs would stop trying to derail or post in bad faith.

>>40908254
Is the male advocacy in the room with us right now?

>>40908254
>loses argument (never made one)
>immediately calls trannies evil men
our feminist allies, everyone

>>40908174
>. i feel like a generalized amab rights movement could really take off if trans women would stop self sabotaging by trying to be feminism's political footrest
nah, you'd just be the footrest for aggrieved dads instead. In the end trannies will sort themselves by whose feet they prefer.

>>40908386
Truth is we are just a wedge to be used by either side of the spectrum, no one cares about us once there goals are met there more then happy to take us out back and put a bullet in our head.

>>40908323
Your the reason why all cis women are becoming terfs

>>40905900 (OP)
>I see these tensions increasing in my life and among my friends
why do you let your frens shittalk trans women :(

>>40909415
what? not rolling over when they're transphobic to us?

>>40907754
retard

>>40911169
not an argument

>>40910898
have you thought that trannies actively being misogynistic to afabs made them wary of trans women?

>>40911189
>misogynistic
if calling out their tangible actions against my right to be alive is misogyny then yes i am misogynist
still don't hate women though so we all know you're just using the scare word to shut down an argument instead of respond to it

>>40911221
it's cis men killing you bro

>>40905900 (OP)
>are you still here?
yeah
i'm not reading any of whatever discourse everyone is having in here, but yeah

>>40911277
it's cis women dehumanizing us and making us targets by removing our human rights

>>40911277
>bro
I hate cis women

>>40911701
if you ever make a good point to them they deflect to one of three responses
if cis female or trans male, call you a pick me
if trans female, call you a man
if cis male, call you an incel or faggot
you can see it playing out in this very thread

>>40911786
Um… where? If anything it wasn’t them shitting up the thread.

>>40911905
cis women have absolutely shitted the place up and done it in bad faith and calling trans women here men at every post they can

>Cis Women Always Shit The Place Up, Says Trans Woman Currently Shitting The Place Up
come onnnnn

>Currently Shitting The Place Up
>by pointing out that cis foids just said we're all men in multiple posts
cis f allies, everybody

(you)
i'm trans but i'm also able to read and all the "points' made above were retarded redpill mens rights shit from like 2013

>>40911970
You guys came in and began shitting up the place here>>40907365, then proceeded to post a bunch of bigoted garbage about women and try to play yourself off as victims.

i want to love cis women but threads like these make it so hard....

>>40911993
simply pointing out cis women's bad faith and antagonism is really all it takes to "shit up the place" to you huh
you're like a would be abusive mother that has no kids to gaslight and darvo instead so you just troll minorities

>>40912057
what the fuck?

>>40912057
Oh, fuck off. You freaks do your absolute best to make yourself unlovable to anyone.

>>40905900 (OP)
i like those/these threads too it's just a shame they can't seem to get more than 3 replies without some dork coming in to fume loudly over the very idea of cis & trans women getting along...

>>40912083
>You freaks
there it is again! we call you cis women, that's what you are, and you never even have the decency to call us anything but slurs and men and insults
you post in bad faith exclusively and your only goal is to further dehumanize trans women

>>40912153
You're so draining to talk to and are baiting a response like that.

>>40912174
there'd no such thing as baiting slurs you're just a bigot deep down and want to dehumanize me

>>40912388
Freak isn’t a slur, hey you know what else is dehumanising? Calling us foids like you did above.

>>40912422
foids was tit for tat after cis women started the slurposting way before that

I like cis women they vote for me to have things

crazy as hell of you guys to be shitflinging in here when the OP was specifically about listening and being empathetic to each other
>>40907365
you were wrong for this

>>40912619
>they vote for
*Trump if they're white, overwhelmingly

>>40912762
nta but it's a bit ridiculous that sonething so tame is enough to trigger you

>>40912762
>listening and being empathetic to each other
>by each other I mean cis women only btw trannies stfu and let the real wombxxn speak

>>40912781
i'm not "triggered," i just think it's ridiculous to see a thread saying "i wish cis and trans women could get along" and immediately reply blaming the other group. this could have been a nice thread of us talking across the aisle.

>>40912793
Yeah but how come trans women are expected to be perfect and cis women aren't? I wasn't gonna say anything but this really grinds my gears

>>40912803
where was i expecting trans women to be "perfect"? if someone is coming from a genuine place and being empathetic and you reply with "that's rich," that's rude no matter who is saying it.

>>40912803
>how come trans women are expected to be perfect and cis women aren't
Cis women are the gatekeepers of social privilege, trans women are the ones outside the gate. Either play along or tear it down, just don't expect either path to end well.

>>40912810
It's basically the tamest shit she could've said but apparently it justifies calling trans women men and all that. Anyway they whole framing is dumb and bad and your thread sucks, it's deliberate argument bait.
>just talk across the aisle
okay obama

>>40912833
>It's basically the tamest shit she could've said
the tamest way to say "fuck you this is all your guys' fault"
>apparently it justifies calling trans women men
didn't say that. i thought that was wrong as well. but i don't think that would have happened if that initial poster didn't bring hostility to the thread.
>your thread sucks
i just got here.
what if we all could have a conversation without going for each other's throats? i have several friends who are trans, we get along great. i support them wholeheartedly, and they don't act like their struggles are somehow my fault because i'm a cis woman. just be kind to each other.

>>40912846
I have been kind. You know what happena when you are kind? You get ignored and everyone latches on to the one post they can use to start a flame war. Thanks for nothing cisters!

>>40912860
i'm sorry that you've had that experience. you should still recognize that not every scenario is like that, and bringing hostility to people that haven't warranted it will only earn you hostility back.
if the OP of a thread starts off with transphobic or dividing remarks, sure, i understand responding in kind. this thread was not like that, so it was unwarranted.

>>40912875
and I'm sorry you had the experience of cis women being held responsible for transphobia. Cool, let's be friends now

>>40912892
war is over <3

t4c is pure

>>40911277
those cis men have wives and girlfriends who go along with the patriarchy for their own socioeconomic gain
it's called the patriarchal bargain in feminist parlance... they are not exempt from criticism.
also..
> bro

>>40912083
>You freaks
... bruh you're proving her point very well
>>40912174
> y-you made me do it
women not taking accountability was literally her point from the start lul

>>40912846
>but i don't think that would have happened if that initial poster didn't bring hostility to the thread.
again, not taking accountability
> my behavior is always someone else's fault, especially if they are amab
>>40912900
aight well..

>>40912988
>again, not taking accountability
for something i didn't do?

>>40912900
Konata (cis) x Kagami (trans)

>>40913046
There is only one trans women or one cis women in the entire thread and they made every post you don't like.

cisphobic transbian x transphobic lesbian

no matter how cisphobic a trans woman is, no matter how many times she has been hurt and excluded by cis women, i will still tell her that i'm here, and i care...
love and understanding are the answer!!

>>40913731
this would fix me

>>40912988
Ok should trannies take accountability for the school shooter if we have too for every stupid thing another women says?

>>40912778
Note to self: only date dark skinned women from now on.

Men that post anime girls are heterosexual pedophiles. This is a reminder that you didn't deserve to date a nice man, you were always a pedo. So when trannies say they're dating women now because their were no nice men worth dating remember you're one of them.

>>40915780
waow

>>40905900 (OP)
cisf chaser threads died because:

-cisf chasers don't like buttfuck ugly twinkhons that pervade this board, unlike cism chasers who fuck anything that walks.
-the cisf chasers threads were kept alive by the 2 or 3 cisf chasers and the dozen of trannies chasing those """"chasers"""".

>>40914979
i care about you!!

>>40916397
you probably say those words about everyone

>>40915841
at least one of those cisf chasers is obese and is in a relationship with an obese hon (Eui) so what I'm saying is the twinkhons should out on some weight if they want cisf action

>>40916472
yes, because my love is endless, and i care about you, and every last woman on this board. and i look forward to a future where we can all live happily, together!

>>40916546
>with an obese hon (Eui)
who

>>40916607
it's between the squiggly lines

>>40916546
>fat
hm, no. thanks, i'll sit this one out

thanks for reminding me of the third reason though:

-sometimes, a cisf can be even less desirable than a tranny hon

>>40916546
rude
>>40916607
hi
wdym?

>>40916583
where is a woman like this in my life NEED a cisf who can fix me

>>40916700
>hi
>wdym?
how did you get in a relationship?

>>40916754
uhh i was at a cottage with my roommate and one of our university friends, we were drinking wine and the friend asked me if i wanted to kiss, i said yeah and then we kinda went from there and now we've been together for a bit over five years.

>>40916546
people cope with insane narratives but the reality is this
the couple of chasers there got revealed to be obese and poly which killed the thread because now nobody wanted to fuck them
cisf chasers exist just never on 4chan, they're out there in the world having a blast in lesbian spaces ironically where the least trans women are for various reasons, and the few that do here well, you see what happens with them

>>40916814
the truth is cisf chasers are attracted to trannies who gigapass and here's none here

>>40916841
not retarded poly/fat ones tho!

>>40916748
i don't know about in your rl life, but i am here for you! you matter to me <3

>>40916748
would you still love her if an evil wizard replaced her vagina with a penis?

>>40916748
What if the evil wizard body-swapped her with a hon and made you choose either the hon with a cisf chaser soul or the hon inhabiting a cis woman's body. Who would you choose as your forever wife?

>>40916938
what shut up id date anything anyway so long as passing
>>40916864
if only u were real

>>40916974
So you would choose the hon-souled female body, who will probably want to go poly to ride the cock carousel, and leave the innocent pure cisf chaser to suffer... you dont deserve her tbhon

>>40916974
>if only u were real
i am real, and i live here, on this board. if you need me, i will be here for you <3

>>40916989
bla bla bla
>>40917077
sure

>>40916814
looking at this thread if you have any self respect why would u want a chaser off this board

>>40916841
>cisf chasers are attracted to trannies who gigapass
then why do i always see them with twinkhons?

>>40917361
proof?

>>40905900 (OP)
how do I get chased by girls :(

>>40905900 (OP)
They don’t exist fucking dumbass

>>40917376
...of random couples i see in public or at pride events???

>>40917583
Mogs me

need cisf chaser gf that's an absolute freaky kink monster and has fun corrupting my vanilla virgin mind

>>40917583
Quick rundown on Sister Hong
>Rothschilds bow to Sister Hong
>In contact with aliens
>Possesses psychic-like abilities
>Controls China with an iron but fair fist
>Owns banks & massage parlors globally
>Direct descendant of 大禹
>Will bankroll the first cities on Mars (Hong Kong will be be the first city)
>Owns 99% of transgender research facilities on Earth
>First designer babies will in all likelihood be Hong babies
>said to have 0.10 WHR, such proportions on Earth have only existed in ancient legends
>Ancients tell of a goddess who will descend upon Earth and will bring an era of trans acceptance and unprecedented technological progress with her
>WPATH and all scientists entrust their guidelines with her. There's no HRT, only Hong Replacement Therapy
>Sister Hong is about 2 decades old, from the space-time reference point of the base human currently accepted by our society
>In reality, she is a timeless youngshit existing in all points of time and space from the big bang to the end of the universe. We don’t know her ultimate plans yet. We hope she's a benevolent being.

>>40919278
How does one get hong replacement therapy?

>>40918580
please...

I'm still here sometimes

>>40913046
>>40915575
i am saying that not only do women dodge accountability, but they help other women do it.
they would rather defend another woman than admit fault and take accountability, even if said woman clearly did something wrong.

>>40915575
if i were here justifying the shooter's actions then yes, that would be a valid point...

>>40922501
Lol @ your entire post, just be honest and admit you hate women and go away.

>>40922545
> point out something that literally just happened, with written evidence
> get gaslit
i get it now. cisf chasers exist but they're bpdemons like my ex whp assaulted me

>>40922563
> diagnosing everyone who calls you out
You're not a psychologist, and please grow up.

Half the stuff you have written reads like a typical incel talking points.

>>40922583
> more gaslighting
it just happened, in writing.

>>40922583
> me: man, black people are so violent
> black person commits a crime in front of us
> me: see what i mean?
> you: that's racist

>>40922628
Racism is a male trait sweetheart.

>>40922501
> >but i don't think that would have happened if that initial poster didn't bring hostility to the thread.
>again, not taking accountability
> >my behavior is always someone else's fault, especially if they are amab
i can see how what i said may have come off wrong. it was not intended to be a dismissal of the transphobic remarks made. i do not defend that in any way and i think the poster(s) was/were in the wrong, as i said. what i was trying to say is that there was a very clear cause-and-effect, where one person was hostile and subsequently received hostility back.

>>40922017
you killed chasiegen by being obese and poly

>>40907943
yep, women are generally the jews of gender and will crybully you to suicide if sufficiently spurned and unhinged or coopted

>>40922501
Wouldn't say that. Women throw each other under the bus all the time. Like if you look at trans women, they also expect all feminine people to degrade and humiliate themselves and view men as superior by default. The idea of a cisf chaser is total delusion.

>>40912086
They don't. Women don't even really hold gay men in high regard either.

>>40924986
I’m sure it wasn’t troons like you shaming women for their appearance that did.

>>40927317
>appearance
when you get so fat you can't wash everywhere or make it up stairs it stops being about appearance and becomes a voluntary disability

>>40922759
true, men don't get raped by third worlders since they avoid them :^)

this thread pretty much confirmed everything I needed to know about transwomen

>>40928579
>cis woman confirms her preexisting bigotry, more news at 11

>>40928579
i'm sorry you got called out for calling us freaks and men lol

> calls us men
> gets called out for calling us men
> T-THIS IS WHY WOMEN HATE YOU
> why? because we don't like when you call us men?
> UHM MISOGYNY
look girl... i'm on your side when it comes to how pervasive misogyny is but come on

intersectionality is a two way street but cis women dont have no sense of direction

>>40929723
I will fuck them for you, femtranon.

>>40929723
it's insane because i am literally not misogynist or hateful to women i just don't deny that women like jkr and radfem mom groups have legitimately been one of the biggest sources of fuel for transphobia in the last decade and it's trickling down through queer spaces with occasional cis women using their status as "the real woman" in conflict to shit on trans women and make us unsafe in a community that for the most part invited us into it themselves but i guess that makes me an incel moid mra and even the women who you'd think would be allies when it got heated throw us under the bus in favor of "afabs"
like it's literally not even a pick me or one of the good ones offer for cis women it's just admitting that among a largely neutral or accepting group of women there are a few bad ones which sounds so sane to me but instead gets me misgendered and labeled as a traitor to some cause of excusing literally everything a cis women could do to us no matter how evil it is

>>40924986
kek
chasiegen died when swablu got b&. it was alive as long as she was around and literally immediately died when she wasn't

>>40931931
>it was alive as long as she was around
only because of her tripfag mafia circlejerking each other all day

>>40932259
swablu tripfag mafia is funny as hell