Thread 40916613

My girlfriend said I better not troon out on her ever or she'll leave me, so I broke up with her for being transphobic. I'm cis lol but it actually made me quite upset because I have other trans friends and it kinda rubbed me the wrong way.

What would you do? She's called my phone like 5 times but it just kinda left an ick desu like she revealed herself as a bad person. Too extreme a reaction or wdyt? I don't really want to talk to her anymore.

For the record I'm an incredibly gay bi man so maybe I came off as a flamer, or something? I don't know. My only transition desire is transitioning to alpha male.

You did the right thing. Good luck with the transition

>>40916641
I'm not trans and would sooner inject testosterone than estrogen famalam. If I wasn't 6'5" and at risk of heart issues I probably would have roided at this point.

Made me chuckle lol. That's exactly why I broke up with her I think, it's like the paranoid delusions of a mentally insecure person are not interesting to deal with. It just immediately killed all my attraction to her. I view her as someone who needs to fix herself now rather than a partner.

Have I gone too far? Am I being too harsh?

>>40916613 (OP)
Shes right to be concerned

>>40916613 (OP)
this sounds like a troll post but I hate to say I have had a similar experience. I'm a cis bi guy and a gymbro as well, and for some reason MANY of the trans people I've been close to have said similar things. Egg cracking etc. I was mystified for ages but I've been told recently that I sometimes have "gay mannerisms" so my only guess is they're picking up on that. It's just tiring. For a while my theory was that transbians who think they're stone cold sapphics get troublesome feelings around men they're attracted to, so they try to pull the "if I'm attracted to you, you must be a girl" card.

>>40916681
>My only transition desire is transitioning to alpha male.
Like I said, good luck.

>>40916613 (OP)
Not an extreme reaction, very reasonable. Life is short, no need to waste time with bad people right?

>>40916613 (OP)
I'd at least consider talking about the problematic behavior with her first rather than completely cutting her off. I get what you mean though, it does imply that she's only interested in you given certain prerequisites. Relationships are built off of mutual understanding and acceptance, so it's important to communicate if something is seriously bothering you.

Her being so desperate to reopen talks does paint something of a bad picture, typically it's emotionally imbalanced people who can't accept that relationships come and go. That said, there's nothing stopping you from attempting to help her improve if you care to do so.

>>40916834
I've only ever seen it on terminally online trans spaces before like tttt, so that's mostly why I was taken aback and so icked out. It was like "oh, I'm actually dating an underdeveloped 4chan troll of a person" is what went through my mind, desu. It's like, yeah I don't need you I'm on another level developmentally. That sort of insecurity really drags you down.

>>40916613 (OP)
maybe she’s straight/only interested in dating men?

>>40916947
That's completely fine but she basically called me a repressor lol. It's kinda homophobic, let alone incredibly transphobic and generally bigoted, imo. Like, why didn't she just ask, lol?

>>40916613 (OP)
desu kinda for the first 5 years of dating my trans boyfriend, then i started estrogen lol

>>40916613 (OP)
BICHAD
WINS
AGAIN

>>40916613 (OP)
having ur boyfriend transition on u is a fear a lot of trans women have but i would never date a guy i thought would transition in the first place. it was probably fair of u to leave her

>>40916681
It happens to trans women a lot. Our boyfriends start as cis men then groom out 3 or 4 years in and it sucks because we like men and not women/trans women. It’s not transphobic, it’s preference. And no I would never be mad at a guy for rejecting me over being trans.

>>40917211
You shoulda just treated like a girl once in a while
sigh

you make the food
you pick up the tab
YOU blap his boyhole
You could do some of the things he did to you... and he might be... a man, still

I meme about it on 4chan but in real life I think I'd probably do the same. The constant shit testing by trans women basically rules them out as long term partners, but good for a quick fuck, just tell them what they want to hear and they're like putty in your hands, you can ghost her or whatever afterwards, doesn't matter. She would have BPDemoned on you anyway.

Most of the time it seems like they're more interested in men as an affirmation of their femininity than anything else, I didn't sign up for that shit, if I want to have a manly cry after watching gunbuster I'll do it and you can get fucked if you don't like it.

>>40916613 (OP)
My gf said she's glad that I'm not a bottom or closeted troon. I'm mostly straight (slightly bi). I know it's common for dudes who date trans girls to be eggs, but I'm not.

>>40916613 (OP)
it sounds like trans women (or even women in general) probably aren't a great choice for you as a partner if any sign of insecurity cause you to end the relationship on the spot.
It's also not transphobic to end a relationship when your partner changes their gender especially if you are a monosexual
You haven't told us what she said but you come off as the more insecure person given you cut all ties with this person as soon as they showed any signs of a rather common and very fixable personality flaw. You're actions certainly won't help her with this at all.

>>40917339
I wouldn't really say it broadly like this and desu I've only fucked one trans girl before I met my ex so it was new to me. It did strike me as entirely baby mode insecurity though, like she couldn't talk to me like an adult and had to invent fanfiction conflict in her head and then bring it up to me like she already had me figured out. The presumption of it kind of angered me, it felt like it underlined my actual gender identity as a man, like she views me as "not man enough" or something. I don't know why she'd think I'd transition outside of bigoted stereotypes of men and women and gay men and trans women. The underlying feeling of bigotry to her message is especially what made me want to quit. I can't put it into words, but it felt both homophobic and transphobic to say and it just upset me hearing someone I thought could be my partner turn out to just be another run of the mill idiot with shit for brains.

>>40917364
>it sounds like trans women (or even women in general) probably aren't a great choice for you as a partner if any sign of insecurity
Are you implying women are insecure?

Because this general group think stuff is exactly what I hate in people and what I feel I saw in my ex when I broke it off. Women aren't anything. Women is a descriptor it isn't a prescriptivist word with defined traits. Don't do the mistake of trying so hard to be woke that you look back around to bigotry and stereotypes.

>>40916613 (OP)
Unless they’re bi, It’s perfectly reasonable for someone to lose interest in their partner if they transition. Though, judging by the way she seems to have said that and her even bringing it up in the first place, you still might’ve made the right choice.

>>40916613 (OP)
The egg broke

Don’t worry I’ll keep her happy

>>40917557
I dont look like this THOUGH I'm bald and look more like the actual söijak

>>40917446
Yes. I think women tend to be more insecure and display higher levels of neuroticism than men.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3149680/
I am not suggesting this is some kind of ingrained or innate trait. I know that women feel a lot of societal pressures around measuring up to beauty standards because I live as a woman and have women friends I talk to. Obviously we should not apply what we know about a group on average to one person individually.

>>40916613 (OP)
I am a cis man who is dating a trans girl and she said I must never become trans on her. I am a repper and live vicariously through her and this helps keep it bottled up. She doesn't know that I'm repping and as far as I'm concerned she never ever will. :)

>>40917654
bait

>>40916613 (OP)
Another reason to not date men. Imagine breaking up with a girl for having brainworms...did you expect a mature and tempered adult with strong self worth and reasonable internal views? She'll be better off with me <3

>>40917654
Doing god's work

Massive larp

>>40917180
How common is this? I remember thats Daisy Taylor Bf from her Hereonneptune era transistioned

Also it's like,
When she's like
"Don't do x or ill break up with you" just feels incredibly toxic. Like, disregarding the homophobia? Who the fuck says such things to their boyfriend? It made me feel such a sudden divide and disconnect. Nobody tells me what to do. She could have said the type of people she won't date, and that would have been fine if she said "I don't date trans women" because I'm not one, but to specifically target ME? Yeah leave my life please I don't need yo be targeted and told what to do by my girlfriend. Don't let the door hit you on the way out bitch.

It made me so mad. I swear 100% you guys I am NOT a repressor. But her command was just so unloving, innately bigoted, and gross that I actually don't like her anymore.

good for you. I told my bf that'd I'd still love him if he ever transitioned.

>>40919626
I'll tell you who. Drama-seeking women. My brother used to be married to one like that. Completely toxic and awful, the sad thing for her is I think she knew she was intolerably rotten as a person and she hoped he would stay with her but he didn't and she basically spiraled and is now a basket case married to a guy 20 years older

>>40916834
I think trannies get an unspoken joy out of trooning out men, and so they do shittest men. Both out of a morbid curiosity, suspicion that the man wants to be their friend in the first place ("who would ever want to spent time with a tranny aside from another tranny?") But also a peculiar sense of joy that "they got one" even though they vocally say they don't like repressors cracking on them.

Personally, I think a lot of men transition *because* of these comments, trans women know it, and so they repeat them out of a smug satisfaction but also with plausible deniability.
I had to break up with my gf because I fucking swear she was attempting to mk ultra me into a tranny, and I feel it's something I see other trannies do.

That girl who dated F1NN did it lol trannies are notorious for dating men, turning them into trannies, and then breaking up with them and laughing at them because "I don't date trannies". It's overall very fucking weird and the only thing that gives them deniability is if you buy into gender science 100% and just say "those people were always trans and they were just living vicariously through their girlfriends."

>>40916613 (OP)
based as fuck if this isn't a LARP

>>40917339
Anon you are generally right, but pump and dump is still unethical. Them being a mess doesnt justify you treating them like shit.

>>40919753
You really do see this happen a lot and it does start to feel like a chicken and an egg situation. You would think if it was solely repressors then you'd have the rate of bfs trooning out over time. But it's like a constant uptake so I imagine the reality is trans gfs are actually making their bfs trans.

>>40917339
> constant shit testing by trans women
I see this often on the board, and it tells me you guys never dated attractive and smart cis women because that's one of the fundamental things about straight relationships. The only women who never shit test are those who are deathly afraid of being dumped every second of everyday.
If you don't want shit tests your only choice is dating other men
>>40917654
obvious bait, but it happens very often unfortunately

>>40920879
I can tell you're a retard because you broadly say "all women do this thing here that I made up". Opinion discarded actual misogynist lol

>>40920896
I didn't say "all women", I said "every woman who isn't deathly afraid of being dumped at all points in time", and I'm right, all my cisf friends do this.
>thing here that I made up
I didn't make up shit tests, cis women did

The whole part of trans women using men as validation for their femininity is that its never enough
Its not great knowing the tranny your dating has sent nudes to almost every dude on their phone

Y'know I can definitely tell this thread is a shitpost but the responses have actually changed my views on what constitutes bigotry, so uhhh thanks I guess OP...