Thread 40923399

I’m a 23 year old cis girl, traditional feminine presentation, upper class upbringing, who realized she’s a lesbian.
AMA
I’ll be as honest as I can if the question is interesting and not trolling slop.

>>40923399 (OP)
Isn’t that really late to realize you’re a lesbian?

>>40923399 (OP)
How soon after a failed relationship was this "realization"

>>40923399 (OP)
What does an upper class upbringing look like

which country upper class

>>40923414
lmao

>>40923399 (OP)
whose dick was so bad you started liking women instead

>>40923399 (OP)
Do you decide your attraction on trans men based on if they tag themselves as transmasc or trans man.

>>40923460
There is no good dick

>>40923405
No, not really. I’ve been in love with a lot girls before, ever since I’m small. I identified as bisexual with 5% attraction to men. I eventually just stopped being delusional and accepted it.


>>40923414
With a man? Two-ish years, but I don’t remember much of it other that it was boring and cringe. Last person I dated was a woman, she had a pretty hot chubby body but she was way too traumatized for me.
However, male best friend confessed to me: and even though he checked all the criteria I put for men (long friendship of multiple year, physical and emotional preferences), I felt odd. And I turned him down even though I thought I had a crush on him for the last 3 years. That’s maybe more of an aborted relationship (?)

>>40923423
Owning castles and multiple proprieties. Going to rally to meet other rich people. Long dinners, rehearsed smiles. Easy jobs in high position. Importance on manners in everyday life and harsh judgment or punishment if not followed. Really private catholic schools with really rich kids, and often nuns and priests. Traditional gender roles. Marriage within other aristocrats.

>>40923447
France

>>40923460
Replied above, old hook up from two years ago. But, I have to correct. The feeling of a penis isn’t that bad, however it’s seeing a man in pleasure, hearing him moan and talk to me during sex that makes me cringe and shut my eyes tight and imaginary porn scenarios instead, wishing to be elsewhere.

>>40923399 (OP)
did you really just realize it now, or instead much younger, but didn't want to come out and thought you could make it work with men?

>>40923472
How accepting of lesbians and gays are French aristocrats?

>>40923463
I am attracted to trans men and trans mascs. I respect the pronouns and stuff, but if they identify as a man, I won’t go out of with them. It’s an odd feeling, more out of respect for them. I do see them as men but since their body still looks and sound like a girl, I feel attracted sometimes. But I don’t pursue it because it means they will most likely transition and lose all the charm.
I only crushed on pre-hrt trans men. The idea of having sex with a post hrt trans man makes me feel odd, even disgusted.

>>40923475
I knew I liked girls as soon as I learned that women could love each other. My first crush ever was when I was 8. I was jealous when she crushed on other boys and pushed them away from her. I never got why until it clicked at 12 that I was attracted to women. After that, I had many girlfriends. I also had boyfriends, but they are blurry, not important, and the relationships with them never leave a good memory in my brain, even if nothing that bad happened.

>>40923493
Actually pretty well now, though older generations might have a hard time. They don’t accept anyone that looks woke, so dyed hair, alt fashion and all that. But if you are queer and follow traditional fashion and codes, the generation of my parents mostly don’t care.

>>40923472
>it was boring and cringe
>it’s seeing a man in pleasure, hearing him moan and talk to me during sex that makes me cringe and shut my eyes tight
>op is french and dating french socialite men and complaining they're cringe
Lol.

>>40923399 (OP)
Hello~ I’m a 30yo cis girl that’s futch who was born into the upper middle class.
>What’s your type?
>are you out of the closet?
>You might not relate to this being fem, but I feel like there is a lot of tradition and forcing old fashioned gender roles onto people in rich circles. Did you struggle with that?
>That photo is really cute. Do you like mlp?

do you happen to be jewish?

>>40923514
>socialite
To be honest, it didn’t really matter. I also dated men from middle or even low middle class.
My friendships with men are often intense, they feel like brothers and I love the dynamic I have with most of them. However, I found myself in relationships with them often because I was scared to shut them down, or just for this stupid immature idea of «oh, he’s popular/cool. I should date him for advantages» that has been printed in my brain. And also this stupid feeling of seeing friends around me get in relationships and feeling out of the loop. I crave women but men were easier, kinda like an easy mode dating sim. But as soon as it got intimate and domestic I broke it off or avoided them, thinking it was just some weird attachement disorder.
But I never did that with women ever, and even if the relationship was odd and not even a couple but a silent crush, I still look at it fondly have more cherished memories.

>>40923532
Hey! You’re cool :)!! Usually I see younger queer girls online
>Feminine girls. The ones with the pretty makeup, the long hair, the neat jewelry. I like it when they’re a bit mean to me, possessive. And how when I’m with them at home, it’s all comfortable. TLDR: Fem girls, soft spot for goths.
>Yup!
>I did struggle with that yeah. I explored my fashion sense for a bit, and my mom threw fits when I dyed my hair pink and wore alternative outfits. She cried on the phone really often when she saw I had short hair and dressed masc, just to see it, told me I needed to see a therapist…… okay… I came back to my basic fashion, but not out of pressure. I experimented all I could, and decided this is what fit me best. I added twists however, eyebrow piercing, or short messy bob. Just enough to feel feminine but still appear as «gay»
>Yup! I put it there because I used to ship them together when I was a kid. Weirdly enough MLP was my gay awakening. Especially human fanarts of princess Luna.

>>40923546
No. Baptized and raised catholic. I still go to church sometimes, I like my religion. I know a lot of Catholics raised children feel odd about it, I did for a while. But I looked back at the scriptures during a really harsh depression and found comfort in them. The catholic philosophy of Love for others and yourself is comforting.

>>40923472
>seeing a man in pleasure, hearing him moan and talk to me during sex that makes me cringe and shut my eyes tight and imaginary porn scenarios instead, wishing to be elsewhere.
many men look and sound absolutely cringe, these fags forgot how to be sexy while they're making their woman's brain stop working

>>40923512
>But if you are queer and follow traditional fashion and codes, the generation of my parents mostly don’t care.
That's pretty gangsta of them, good to see they're not too uptight along that dimension.

>>40925040
I love how the onus of a "good time" is always on the male, lmao
Do a fucking trick you goddamn starfish

>>40923604
>Most of the older lesbians are still using blogs and forums online. Only social media you’ll find them on is FB.
>oh damn, I wish we were closer in age or you were older than me so you could bully me into being goth and I could become your obsessive gf.
>Your mom is a MESS. I hope things evened out and you guys have a good Relationship now. What’s the best way to still appear gay with long hair? It’s something I really struggle with I don’t want to cut it, but I look strait af
>I was obsessed with Luna too! I would make my younger sisters watch that show all the time. I always thought Apple jack and rainbow dash were a good ship, but your picture OP is so cute it’s making me reconsider.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=DWZ_ljipFkw

>>40923399 (OP)
Thoughts on transbians?

>>40923399 (OP)
>I’m a 23 year old cis girl, traditional feminine presentation, upper class upbringing, who realized she’s a lesbian.
AMA
I’ll be as honest as I can if the question is interesting and not trolling slop.

>>40925050
It’s great, really. I think most of them are smart enough to know being gay doesn’t really change anything as long as you can make bucks and keep the family money going.

>>40927045
My mom is a bit of a mess but not mean. I think she’s worried about me being bullied, because I got harshly bullied in school.
>average aspire girl experience
We have a really healthy relationship now, I love my mom. She is really supportive in everything I am and I do
For the hair, and general appearance, I think it’s subtle signs? But even I have a hard time grasping gay codes. Lesbians have piercings sometimes, but also rings. Or their hair is done a bit funny. They don’t have this uptight rigid thing women have. But I suck explaining.
>nah I was a rainbow x fluttershy and rarity x applejack hardcore fan….. opposites attract is my most beloved trope. That’s why… goth girls…

>>40927061
They’re okay, I guess. I have never met a trans woman that entirely passed. And I mean it. I knew like two and they were totally male passing, balding spots, beards, and… sort of general «male» attitude and just really liked anime girls with boobs but in a lesbian way according to them. It kinda left me puzzled, I have mixed feelings about it.
But, in theory, if I met a super passing trans woman, I wouldn’t mind dating her. But I think it’s something that’s really rare, and I think trans girls are really brave, because it feels somehow easier to go FTM than the other way around.

>>40927079
Is this supposed to be me? Cute :3!

>>40923399 (OP)
>>40928255
you should become a terf
that would be awesome

>>40923495
>attracted to trans men
So you are bisexual. Trans men don’t look like women unless they don’t pass. If attracted to male sex characteristics, you’re not a lesbian. lol

>>40929955
Hey anon, I think you lack comprehensive skills, reread my reply, slowly. It’ll be okay I believe in you.

>>40929864
I think about it sometimes. But I also can’t deny some trans people exist, and have always existed throughout history (Louis XIV’s brother was most likely MTF for example). It’s just that there is also today’s society that make the small number of trans people much wider, because it tries to be relatable «you are trans if you don’t like your body. HRT is the only solution.»
I wish people would get therapy first, find out why they don’t like their bodies, instead of immediately jumping at the trans conclusion. But apparently saying that is offensive.

And with MTF people, with some I see on social media, it feels more like a fetishy thing, where they dress like an anime girl and show off their boobs and have this thought that comes with male educated in our patriarchy : if you are a woman, you are sexy and therefore sexualizable.

I’ve rarely seen trans women online that have an actual interest in (cis) women’s lives, or just women in the real world. The sensitivity, the struggles, the softness… The history too, that women went through. Or the rituals that we have with feminity, or sometimes how we break feminity norms. This whole being a girl thing.

Really often it’s just them larping as anime girls and consuming rarely never media with actual women and women struggles.
And I hate it because : women aren’t anime girls. Aren’t anime clichés.
It feels like some kind of roleplay where they get to be a girl they think is the most ideal anime waifu IRL,
and forget that a woman is just… a person. An entire real world gender with history and culture.
>dunno if I make sense
>TLDR: I feel like some trans women are trans women to larp as anime girls and pushing aside real girls existences making it sexist and fetishizing as much as men do.