Thread 40923438

General for all nonbinary, intersex, questioning, and friends.
QOTT: What is your favorite biome?
QOTT2: What cultural cuisine do you enjoy the most?

good morning nonbineys

being a NEET is low-key depressing as fuck

>>40924996
Yep

give it up for another wasted day in my shitty life

>>40925022
it's so dumb because i could be doing any one of my hobbies but I feel like shit and i've already had 6 beers so i'm just watching a gay ass retarded reality show and eating sour candy

'afternoon nonbineys i feel yuckers
i have been looking for a job for months trying to be a choosy beggar and coming up with exactly nothing
the supermarket that i used to work for hasn't been processing my reapplication and i'm afraid to work there anyways because i don't want to see my old coworkers
do you guys know how to get a job that will not peel out my soul and beat it to death? i have a master's degree but it is in elementary education :( i might teach someday but i don't think it is a good idea for me right now

>QOTT
i haven't ever really gotten to see much because i've seldom left home but i like forests. the woods. i also like big open fields of flowers and tall grasses and things but i've never really seen plains
>QOTT2
i like sushi and curry, specifically, a lot. i haven't really eaten much else of Japanese or Indian foods, though.

>>40923438 (OP)
hi enbies. i have a question. did you ever think about having children?

>>40925470
i used to really want kids and i still think i would love to parent but my husband doesn't want children so i've sort of gotten over it with time. i don't think i'd be very good at it, anyhow
if i were to have children i think i would like a daughter and a son, in that order, whom we would adopt

>>40925470
My fiancé wants 4...

>>40925470
Nuh uh. Too much work and I'd watch over them like a hawk. Too scared of them going through the bad shit I dealt with.

>>40925470
I can barely care for myself m8

>>40925521
leave your husband. if he doesn't want kids then he is useless. you will divorce him eventually and at the end of your life you will found your tomb to be empty of love, buried alone with the only confort of the earth around you

>>40925721
no.......i cannot ever imagine living without him and i totally understand his reluctance to have kids. he's not entirely against it, anyways; he just doesn't think it's a good idea for him. i don't think it's a good idea for me, either, like i said...as much as i would love children, i just don't imagine i could give them what they deserve. i do hope i'll make a good auncle (?????????????? probably just and aunt anyways lol whatever), though, if my brother decides to have kids.

>>40925830
>auncle
I fucking love this lol

Has anyone thought about leaving the USA? My partner and I are juggling the idea of becoming English teaching assistants in Asia

i'm a fairly decent looking guy with I feel not too harsh chad-like features but when I do makeup I can't look fem enough and it's pissing me off

>>40926141
are you contouring ?

>>40925830
anon, i understeand you, but i think you are going to regret this. i think you are supressing your own desires. i know you love him very much but you are a being of your own. at the end of the day you do you, but consider my words

>>40923438 (OP)
another shitty day in my nonbinary septum piercing barista life. made only $7 in tips despite emotionally dicksucking everyone. kms

>>40926151
i'm trying but i'm still new to it. I just can't imagine me looking drastically different if I improve

also i tried orange color corrector for the shadow but then i feel like i have to cake up foundation

>>40926197
you don't deserve these 7$. give it to me

>>40926215
well i cant rlly argue with that.. its urs now, please be kind with it

>>40926207
i wish i had better advice for you . my makeup routine is literally just face powder, black eyeshadow, black eyeliner, black mascara and i personally don't contour but i know if you get it right you'll be stunning . best of luck .

>>40926309
what kind of face powder do you use?

>>40926190
maybe; maybe not. i am confident if i decide in ten years' time that i am ready and able and healthy and good to have kids, it's not an idea he would reject outright. and if it is, we will see what happens then.
i do appreciate your cautionary words, nonny, really. but the fact that i don't even know myself if i can or should be a parent makes me a little hesitant to put all my eggs in the whole-new-relationship-with-a-whole-new-person basket, especially when i love him so much. it is something i will now talk to him about, though.

>>40926327
this in the "fair" color .

>>40926227
i am going to beat you with my 7 dollars

>>40926554
huh do you have any beard shadow?

>>40926696
no, i don't have any facial hair .

I'm lonely. I wish I had friends

>>40925470
kids are the burdens of straggots and no one else

>>40923438 (OP)
hullo

THIS THREAD IS DEAD AS HELL TODAY!!! WHY?

> Friend recently realized they're enby
> only don't want to come out because they love their boyfriend
> not worried about transphobia
How do I be supportive

>>40929739
people who dont come out and transition because of their partners are cucks and cis, terminally sexbrained and ngmi

>>40923438 (OP)
good afternoon enbygen
>q1
probably the tiaga. winter in heavily snow ladden forests is just so so cozy.
>q2
it varies, ive been really interested in mexican lately because ive never had it regularly before now. but mostly japanese and sushi, its just very convenient to have rice+meat+veggie all in a single premade bite.
>>40925470
not really. i have enough sensory+mental issues to be confident that my parenting would probably end up just like how my parents did to me. and if i end up repeating that same trauma garbage then i would completely snap. not even talking about the money to raise one, the hell that is american public school. god i could never send another living breathing soul to that kind of torment, especially one of my own.
my brother is the put together one with the whole wife, well paying job and mortgaged house. if anything i feel like being an auntie and helping to care for the youngin while theyre off at work or whatever would fit me a lot better.

good morning nonbineys

>>40929739
I wouldn’t really call what someone who has “realised” that they’re enby experienced “transphobia”, with no medical transition. If they’re afab I cannot imagine how you might socially transition to experience any sort of phobia beyond having uncomfortable conversations about pronouns

>>40929739
Their boyfriend is not going to break up with them for changing pronouns and wearing jeans

Another bad way to start off a bad day

>>40923438 (OP)
>QOTT: What is your favorite biome?
snowy siberian forests but also sunny eastern european beaches. also mountains like mountains in the caucasus those are amazing
>QOTT2: What cultural cuisine do you enjoy the most?
i like japanese stuff. not just sushi but also tempura gyoza sashimi its all veri yummi. sushi restaurant near my house used to make really good shrimp gyoza but i think i was the only person who ordered that shit bc theyve taken it off the menu. im still bitter about it it was teh only good thing in there their sushi sucks

>>40923438 (OP)
>QOTT
The one with bees
>QOTT2
that depends a lot, maybe now with the weather getting colder it's japanese curry
>>40929739
bot unrelated but my sibling recently changed pronouns back to just she/her on discord, and I fear it's because of her boyfriend...

why am I so fucking retarded bro I hate everything I hate hate hate I HATE

hello nonbineys. i have been in tokyo the past week and it's been very nice, i went to the parasite museum and some nature trails and shrines around the city. lots of very pretty animals that i don't often get to see back home, picrel is a rather adorable caterpillar. also went to a rave with my sister which has been quite a change of pace for me but it was fun. i'll be going back home in a few days but i'd really love to come again for a longer trip someday and see more of the country
>>40923438 (OP)
>qott1
i'm a big fan of wetlands, i always love spending time in the swamps and marshes. theyre such beautiful wellsprings of life. i also find the ocean depths & kelp forests & coral reefs very appealing but those arent quite as accessible to me so i don't feel as much of a connection. i am a swamp spirit at heart and the swamps dwell within me
>qott2
i have recently been getting more familiar with a decent variety of japanese cuisine and it's really phenomenal. i don't know if i can rank it above chinese though, they'd have to be neck and neck.

>>40926197
can i pay you 40 for you to suck mine?

im not enby im a subhuman freak i fit in nowhere im a monster

out looking for a job today and i walked into the liquor store, deliberately avoiding the dollar store beside it because a woman who used to come in and make me uncomfortable at my old job works there and i did not want to see her, to ask if they were hiring. AND THE WOMAN WORKS AT THE LIQUOR STORE NOW so i was literally about to turn heel and run out the door but she looked at me and i said hi i'm looking for a job and she took a few seconds to place me but remembered who i was and figuratively dragged me by the wrist through like a twenty-minute conversation about jobs and job-searching and my life and what i'm doing now and i don't know how to say "no" so i went along with it and ended up telling her that i'm worried about working in elementary ed and she started going on about how hard it is for teachers nowadays because they're taking away parents' rights and how the state wants to control our kids and there's "a lot of evil" going on in schools and that i'm such a brave and good person for wanting to take all that on as an educator and all i could do was nod along until she asked me if i went to church and like the fucking idiot that i am i said no not for a long time but i have been thinking about maybe going back and she said Oh Here Are Some Good Churches to Try; Don't Go to These Ones, Though, They Are Apostate and Have No Conviction of beliefs and throughout this entire experience i was screaming in my head and could not leave but on the bright side i guess that means i'm not as visibly trans as i thought because Holy Fucking Shit dude this description here does not even capture a fraction of the discomfort and psychic torment i endured why does she work there now why wasn't she at the dollar store where she was supposed to be why is she preaching her beliefs to me

>>40933518
i ran out of characters but she made me confirm my email address for her which i gave her under pressure a year ago ignored what was sent to me because i was already uncomfortable i don't want to be in contact i don't want to be penpals especially now that i know she is a terf WHY CAN'T I STAND UP FOR MYSELF i'm losing my whole entire mind

>>40933518
at least u pass fuck you

>>40933536
i promise you i do not take it for granted
but it isn't something i had anticipated would upset friends here. i'm sorry

I'm going to hex the fuck heads who scammed me

Two and a half weeks off HRT and I kinda just wanna get onto it again because why tf not?
Guess I'm more enby than tranny.

Also how do u even explain this to other ppl? As an enby I feel neither straight nor gay nor bi. I exclusively love and enjoy sex with men but I appreciate women for the way they dress and how clothes fit on their body.
Just a me-moder.

>>40934679
i think that's how most androphilic ppl feel desu but i don't know that for sure...it doesn't seem at all incongruous to me though and straight women i know compliment each others' bodies/clothing choices regularly
why did you stop hrt? out of curiosity

>>40933220
im not convinced yet sorry.. maybe more?

>>40926197
today's reaping: 4 dollars in tips.

bupo

bump to save

>>40934679
Extremely relatable. Would bang men over women, but women are cute and lovely too

I have escaped gender successfully.
Nothing applies to me any more.
I am free and have been operating as free for years now.
At last the final step.
To free myself from my own clutches.
I no longer am not.
I simply am

>>40940469
i require this deeply.

>>40940578
You'll find whatever block there is and exorcise it.
The behaviours that come naturally to you and bring you joy. They no longer have connotations one way or another. You will find a way of being that frees you not from the burden of labels, for people must refer to you as best they can. But from the expectations of those labels. Your future, your present, shall no longer be dictated by the shame and discomfort or even pride you might feel from adhering to the tenants of these labels. If shine is what you are to do, then that you will, but you do not need to shine if that is not your inclination. If it's your desire to do so then overcome all that prevents you from doing so. Be that physical, mental, interpersonal, situational. You must expand into whatever space you might fill. Fill no more space than you can, and take on the shape that you must take in order to abscond from your duties. Shoulder whatever burdens you must shoulder and you must not shoulder any more. If you choose not to shoulder them, you could instead hip them, or forearm them, or knee them.
Never again lament your adherence or lack there of to any category, least of all the appendix that contains all which lies between.

>>40940722
thank u anon. deeply. im saving this and will read it back to myself at points in the future. this is not an easy path.

much new music this blessed Friday.....i am listening to the Slipknot anniversary album now but there is also a new shame album, new La Dispute, Big Thief, Fleshwater, Cut Copy, Tchotchke, and many others INCLUDING new Town Portal single which is SO good and heralds finally a new Town Portal ALBUM after six years. i cannot overstate my excitement
i hope everyone has the loveliest new-music Friday and that something you have been excited for came out today

>>40940578
based blame

>>40941062
Good luck anon! Let me give you an even more actionable piece of wisdom for when you've spent time untangling what you find you might wish to untangle.
"Don't worry about it."
Never repeat this is an accusatory or defensive tone. It is a reassurance for all not least yourself

good morning nonbineys

got up from bed because my chronic pain is flaring up only to be bitched at for lighting a single chime candle . ugh .

Good morning non binarys

TEMPERATE RAIN FOREST
21st CENTURY AMERICAN

feeling great about being some kinda titty boy today
gonna get a nap in after my chores then work out a little and get to work

when the people call you bro
and sister also feels faux
and the body that you grow
is but misery

you can always just let go
it doesnt matter how life flows
theres no you
the soul is but a farce

dont forget
you cant escape your parts

idk if im a genius or a retard i feel like if i was born 70 years ago theyd consider me an artistic revolutionary but rn my sculptures might seem amateurish and childlike. but what if like in future this particular type of eccentricity and compulsive artistic drive will be proclaimed the new movement in art. i feel like it is very unique combining the jadeddepressive feelings of an dult with simple materials that are usually sculpted and molded by the hands of children

>>40923438 (OP)
surgery consultation is today. i have been on a waitlist for over a year. wish me luck.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VilcZpKgLV4

>>40943909
Good luck anon I hope it goes smoothly

>>40943909
GOOD LUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! so happy for you :))

>>40923438 (OP)
>QOTT
I only ever lived in a big humid plains, but I think I'd like colder climates a lot
>QOTT2
Japanese in particular

>>40943954
>>40945416
it went well i think! i got all my desired procedures on file at least. the surgeon was crashing out in the other room abt being over booked and yelling at his assistant about it which was weird. but i now have a CT due and a surgery date for winter likely.

>>40946298
so exciting ! smooth sailling from here on i shall hope :)

>>40946298
Yelling at his assistant is crazy, you sure you want to go under the knife with such an unhinged individual? =/ I'm not trying to fear monger but that's a red flag

>>40947317
he’s operated on 4 of my friends and they all have amazing results. i’m not surprised that an esteemed plastic surgeon would be an egomaniac but unfortunately it is the only option i have without significant travel costs. such is the nature of seeking out these procedures in my area

kek how long has this gen been here? never noticed

>>40947490
I wanna say a month or two idk

>>40947861
What do you talk about?

>>40947991
Usually qotts and stuff, bickering with the haterz, enby feels + philosophy

it feels as if there would be a lot less trans people feeling the need to desperately manufacture reasons that theyre 100% real deal women/men if nonbinary/3rd gender positions were more readily accepted and accommodated for.
im probably projecting, it just makes me wonder how many people would be better off and more confident in themselves if enby was in common thought as much as man or woman. it makes me a little sad to think about.

>>40948795
i think it is less that you are projecting and more that you have insight given lived experience.....i agree with you totally.
when i was first transitioning i spent so much mental energy on the idea of being a woman and being unclockable and being like literally impossibly beautiful bc i wanted to be the epitome of womanhood so that no-one would ever even think to question me and it caused me so much pain bc obviously holding oneself to impossible standards is no good for self-esteem.....if i had understood at the time that my not feeling like a woman or a man was legitimate and valid and not something i needed to Fix by becoming the perfect girl or whatever i think i would have had a much easier and happier time.
the other thing, though, is that the world is a lot less understanding of the nonbinary experience than it is of binary trans people, and even they don't get a whole lot of empathy.

captcha: YGAAA

>>40948890
Word

i love when people try to hate on me for being nonbinary becuz i couldn't give two shits about what they see me as <3 like okay babes you go ahead and steam and stomp and shout but i literally don't care about gender roles <3

>>40948974
>>40948890
>>40948795
All based
Sometimes I feel like this is the only gen on this board that is gonna make it

>>40949398
It's all love and sunshine here babes <3 be happy, be loud, be PROUD!!! <3 we're here and we ain't going away!!!

>>40949398
nonbineys are free :) i love this gen so much

>>40949418
Same to you anon, glad this is the energy and sentiment you're carrying today! I've got a little bit more self development I want to do before I'm gonna be comfortable with the out and loud parts. But for now, half out, vague and proud is where I'm at and I'm happy. If that's all I ever muster I'll be glad that I'm at least living a life I want to live, surrounding myself with people who love and understand me, and taking control of my bodily autonomy. We'll see what the future brings! Take care anon

>>40949475
a vague and quiet life is freedom

>>40949492
It is. A freedom I'm so glad I am privileged to enjoy.
In the future maybe I would like to give back to the community more. But I want to really have my life and my mental health in order a bit more before I feel like I can take that on. I do do small acts of mutual aid for friends and people locally sometomes but yeah. Anyway! It's all good, it's nice to be slowly becoming someone I'm proud to be

>>40948890
>i wanted to be the epitome of womanhood so that no-one would ever even think to question me
I did the exact same. i dove so far into womanhood and picture perfect everything day in day out, hours and hours of prep every day, for fear of ever being associated with what i was former. out of the frying pan into the roasting pan.
the entire world is gendered, and thats a crying shame. from social settings to the government everything is still one or the other. i feel so pathetic for playing into it because what else can i do except rebel in small ways. enbiness is the next frontier and i would like nothing more than to be in that vanguard. maybe those small ways can eventually become big ways.
>>40949398
fully and genuinely enbygen is the only place where i can find any understanding at all.
>>40949524
>I want to really have my life and my mental health in order a bit more before I feel like I can take that on
i feel that. i give money to homeless people whenever i see them and encourage others to do the same, but soup kitchens and volunteering are still such a ways away ability-wise.

>qott: fav biome
temperate rainforests

MmmMMMMM I AM feeLING soooo GENDER today~~~

>>40950279
ok

>>40949808
>enbygen is the only place where i can find any understanding at all
That makes me happy ^^ we are here 4 u

>>40949808
>i feel so pathetic for playing into it
it's really hard to help, nonny. that's not your fault. i call myself enby but my whole life is gendered, too, at least outwardly. i think that it takes a great deal of confidence and personal strength to be nonbinary out in the world; it's not an easy thing and you can't beat yourself up for that. the small ways will become big ways someday. you will have that strength. we both will, i hope :)

nbg (enbygen) needs histrionic trips if its ever going to be a board mainstay

>>40951578
tripfags are the grim reaper of any fucking general

>>40951578
I can have histrionic crashouts if you want, but I won't trip

>>40951594
duh
>>40951600
yes please

>>40951578
never tripfag. enbygen stands tall on its own, lurking in the shadows.

>>40951607
no now I'm not in the mood anymore

>>40948795
Ive been wondering this a lot too, i called out a friend of mine if they just would be happy being called "not a man" and had in instant glow up. Then they just change the pronouns to he/they on a dating app and got tons more people interested.

Like men are just never allowed to be happy or have anyone happy for them any more and everyone knows it. Enbies seem to be over the off-putting facial piercings, coloured hair, and fucking up their eyebrows era and i see more professional types trying to actually be apart society, both HRTd and not.

good mornyan nyanbineys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wR3jsm-pMZY
new two-hour Cheekface concert!!!!!!!!! i've only heard twenty minutes so far but it is awesome

>>40951578
i used to trip but never again soz
>>40952257
good MORNING!!!!!!!!!!!

>>40952302
Hope you're doing well I drank way too much fucking beer last night I can feel it in my nose

>>40952308
i'm not sure how i'm doing but i'm hanging in there and this Cheekface album has got me really smiling :) i hope you're well too, despite the beer yuckiness.....i don't drink; i didn't even know that could happen lol. i thought it was just bad headaches you got from drinking too much. hopefully it passes quickly

>>40952363
Yeah I got these things and I'm drinking lots of water

>>40952386
no other popsicles would have worked ?? not orange or strawberry or maybe lemon?
i'm sure they're great i am just a pickle-hater.......

>>40952402
These specifically are good for hangover because they have electrolytes in them vs regular popsicle is just sugar

>>40952406
i see..well good riddance to the hangover

about a year ago i felt strongly, specifically nonbinary. but now i'm not so sure anymore. i can't tell if i was just enbycoping, if i'm actually nonbinary, or if i'm just a tim desperate enough for attention that i decided to identify as trans just to get more people close to me who could understand what i'm going through

i might kill myself tomorrow

>>40952653
>a tim
nonny.............
what is it you feel, anyways, if you know? if you believe being trans has allowed people to understand you, there must be something beyond just wanting attention. you have legitimate feelings.
>>40952663
life will always have an end, friend. it doesn't have to be tomorrow. love and imaginary hugs to you.

going to the club dressed as a maid nekomimi tonight i'm so excited