Thread 40933102

i asked if i had dysphoria here and whether i should transition or not and you guys told me to talk to a psychiatrist and i did and we still couldn't figure it out. does it take many many sessions? what do i do? i'm more confused than ever. it feels like the best thing i could ever do and the worst mistake i could ever make at the same time.

>>40933102 (OP)
If you are wondering if you have dysphoria, then odds are you actually dont. It’s painfully obvious and clear. It’s not mystified or vague or anything that needs retconning or something that manifests unconsciously. You are either acutely distressed by your body’s sex characteristics or you aren’t. It’s not that hard.

>>40933102 (OP)
no one can answer this for you retard

>>40933102 (OP)
Do you feel bad about your gender and wish you could be another one?
>yes
that’s dysphoria
Can you rid yourself of these feelings by working on your self esteem, are they a product of your current mentality and place in life
>no
Would lifelong HRT and potentially decades of body modification surgeries fix this?
>yes
Then transition

It’s that simple

>>40933102 (OP)
yes you are trans, yes you have gender dysphoria, yes you should transition.

>>40933123
>>40933142
i absolutely wish i was a female, if i had the chance i would've preferred to have been on hormones before puberty, and i have been suicidal a lot because of the fact that i'm not a woman. but at the same time, i'm not exactly disgusted by like my penis, except i sometimes kinda hate it, but usually i feel okay with my penis even if i would've rather had a vagina. also i'm bisexual. idk what to make of it.

>>40933157
>bisexual
You have autogynephilia.

>>40933157
the only thing that matters is would transitioning make your life better or worse. People get bogged down in being “trans” like it’s a noun but it’s not, it’s a verb.

>>40933168
>the only thing that matters is would transitioning make your life better or worse
yeah, i'm kinda trying to find the answer to that by figuring out if i really have gender dysphoria or if i'm mentally ill in some other way that could be fixed by something other than transitioning.

>>40933184
Both can be true honestly. Redditors just love to pretend dysphoria is isolated in its own little brain island, sectioned off from everything else behind a 60 ft wall and frozen in time in an unalterable state, but there’s no reason to conclude that. Like how other dysmorphia and OCDs may alleviate or exacerbate depending on someone’s level of depression.

But really it’s your body and mind so only you can truly know what will work for you. I’d just suggest not standing around in indecision and just start working on your mental health in general, separate from diagnosing what is explicitly and exactly wrong with it.

>>40933123
I hate when trannies say this because many people live with and normalize pain every day without questioning it's source. It took me going to therapy for over a year and squashing all my other sources of depression until all I could think about was how awful seeing a man in a mirror and being hairy made me feel

>>40933102 (OP)
>it feels like the best thing i could ever do and the worst mistake i could ever make at the same time
Yeah, that's basically it. To be honest, if you don't feel like you *must* transition, then I wouldn't do it. It makes your life much, much, much, MUCH harder. I would only recommend someone transition if the only other option feels like suicide. And that's NOT social pressure to romanticize suicide. Just like, if trooning out feels like a thing you might like but if not life goes on = don't transition. But if if feels like you're going to kys unless you transition, then by all means give it a shot before giving up on life.

>>40933157
you should transition
the fact that you can manage to cope and be complacent with life doesn't mean you don't want to be a woman

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>>40933102 (OP)
Honestly just do it. You wouldn't be wondering so much if you never had gender dysphoria

>>40933102 (OP)
What makes you think you're not dysphoric? Why are you afraid of it being the worst mistake you could ever make?

>>40933157
just troon out already anon, you can always just stop taking hrt if you change your mind

>>40935841
I've had a huge porn addiction since a very young age and i have so many fucked up fetishes that i'm wondering if this is just another one of those.

>>40933123
this is so total bullshit. i know so many trans people with real dysphoria who took years to connect everything in their mind

>>40935787
spending too much time here would do that to anyone tbdesu

>>40936556
those people are called faketrans, anon. a cross sex identity is either emergent by puberty or it’s motivated by something else entirely (fetishism, escapist fantasies, autism, cluster b disorders, transmaxxing, etc)

>>40936565
To be fair i didn't even use /lgbt/ until a few years ago when i starting wondering if i might be trans.
>>40936582
I would say i always would've prefered to be a girl, i always liked the idea, but i only started feeling a little obsessed about it a few years ago, like at around 17 i think. So idk if that counts or whatever.

>>40936508
Let's assume this is just a fetish taken too far. How does that make you feel? Are you satisfied with this conclusion, or disappointed?
Have you spent so much time and effort deliberating over whether your other fetishes are just fetishes or something more?
Personally, I can't see why this would be just a fetish for you. It's much more likely that this is just your gender dysphoria being sublimated. Maybe you have a reason to believe it is, but I doubt that

>>40936582
>or it’s motivated by something else entirely (fetishism, escapist fantasies, autism, cluster b disorders, transmaxxing, etc)
No cissoid with any of the things listed here would ever troon out

>>40933123
Why are so many rightoid anti-trans activists on this board?

OP will troon out anyway

>>40933157
How can you write this and still be unsure whether you are dysphoric? Everything listed here is textbook dysphoria

>>40936582
>fetishism, escapist fantasies, autism, cluster b disorders, transmaxxing, etc
what if it's all of the above

>>40939078
It's just that i haven't felt too strongly about it until relatively recently so i'm not sure.
>>40939102
I'm not autistic and i only have cluster c disorders, but i might be fetishizing the subject a bit.

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Talk to a gender therapist; not a psychiatrist. It does take several sessions. You will be more confused before you become less confused because you are processing it.

>>40933123
This is bullshit. I tried to convince myself that I didn't have dysphoria and deeply believed it for years because my brain would rather confabulate ANY excuse other than "you have to do the hardest and most embarrassing thing ever to be happy" at first.

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>>40942662
Lmfao "gender therapists" are all leftist grifters who don't even have a doctrate.

Don't talk to anyone except someone who has been there.

t.ransitioned fully

>>40933102 (OP)
It's quite simple really: Never Troon.
You're welcome.

>>40943545
Yeah I decided 5 minutes ago that i'm going to commit suicide at the first chance i get so i don't think i'll troon out.

>>40943569
Have you considered taking up a hobby? Knitting, perhaps.

coffin bread... !

Literally why live? my only options are to either join the most miserable and tortured demographic in the world or spend the rest of my life wanting to do it and still being miserable. All of this is besides the fact that i'm a complete failure of a human being and i'm never gonna accomplish anything or ever be happy. I logically can't find a single reason not to jump off of an 8 storey building tonight.

>>40933102 (OP)
buy the ticket take the ride
its literally a fucking 4 hour long halflife pill
its easier than an acid trip without any of the hallucinations
at most youll just cry for a few hours.
in reality, youll probably feel not much of anything at all.
if youre trans, youd probably just feel "normal" for once

>>40944158
your problem is everything is constant absolute extremism.
cant you just be jenny on the couch for once
and then jenny who did yoga for 20 minutes and eventually you can be jenny the engineer or whatever the fuck
stop thinking that you have to be either robbing a bank or blowing 50 dudes behind a wendys or chucking yourself off a building

>>40933102 (OP)
Psych wont do shit desu. Their job is to endlessly delay so that you never go on HRT ala the British Healthcare system.
Better trying to figure it out yourself.

>>40933102 (OP)
>>40944615
After all what do you think makes more money? 'You obviously do/dont have dysphoria' in and out in a single session, or dragging it out over years?

>>40944650
I'm not paying them i'm going to this university hospital, i get free sessions in exchange of a student basically being in the room and like learning from the professor i guess.

>>40944666
Fair nuff. Do keep an eye out that psychs are known for letting personal problems get in the way when dealing with trannies, but Id say thats a thing to keep an eye out for while continuing to go to appointments. Not just writing the whole thing off entirely in that case.

>>40933123
>If you are wondering if you have dysphoria, then odds are you actually dont
I've been told the exact opposite by multiple therapists. I was offered hormones over the phone as soon as I tried to schedule an appointment to talk to someone.

>>40933157
consider each step individually. trans medical procedures are not a package deal even if they're sometimes presented that way. you can get on hormones without having to figure out whether or not you want SRS beforehand, and if you decide you don't want SRS but do want to stay on HRT that's entirely normal and fine, lots of people do that.
given what you've said i would strongly advise trying HRT and seeing how you feel on it.

YOU SHOULD KILL YOURSELF YOU MINDLESS UGLY IDIOT

>>40945738
>Do keep an eye out that psychs are known for letting personal problems get in the way when dealing with trannies
yeah i was kinda scared of that. but she didn't seem like she had a problem with it. but she found it really weird that i was attracted to girls, like trannies can't be bisexual??? idk that was kinda weird but yeah she was mostly okay i think.

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Last bump before going to bed... please keep the thread up for the next 8 hours i want to have more discussions.

>>40946039
>but she found it really weird that i was attracted to girls, like trannies can't be bisexual???
yeah that's just her being a retard, a plurality of trannies ID as bi (though most primarily date men)

I basically transitioned without actually being transgender or having gender dysphoria, and the psychiatrist I went to for my mom's death can't understand it.

>>40933142
>Would lifelong HRT and potentially decades of body modification surgeries fix this?
No.
>Then transition
>It’s that simple
Not really.

>>40935985
Doesn't work that way.

>>40945778
>HRT
>entirely normal and fine
Pick one.

>>40933102 (OP)

honestly homie just get off the internet and go on more walks and just try to connect with the world and think about it at this point. posting about it on an old weaboo basket-weaving forum will drive you even more insane with the attention grabbing half truth half troll responses.

Once you get out of this hell hole and get some good self reflection time will you seriously know if you want to/need to transition. and then just fucking own it and get over it

>>40933167
agp is fake science.