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what non-surgical treatments that youve had do you rate the highest and why? pls post your opinions and experiences here

ive been thinking instead of gunning for surge i should spend a bunch of money getting my skin and body perfect before i go get cut up, as these can potentially do a lot more relative to what they cost for my quality of life.

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>>40936067 (OP)
i bought a gua sha that a pregnant woman pissed on

i also need to know

wow 4chan really be doing nothing for themselves ig

>>40936067 (OP)
1. Botox
2. Electrolysis
3. Getting my foundation/concealer professionally matched
4. Eyebrow shaping
5. Hair straightening.
That's about where I'm at.

Filler is next on the list to try.

curious how many people have actually seen surgery videos of upper face FFS

thats why im only doing chin

>>40936548
>a gua sha
those are nice but i find using my hands works fine
>that a pregnant woman pissed on
what

>>40936067 (OP)
electro is tops
anything for amazing hair
botox if u have $$. all my other cosmetics costs mean i can't justify it

laser if you aren't blonde

>>40941246
passing isnt for the weak and queasy

>>40941246
>waaa waaa ffs scary
i literally could not care less i HATE MY FACE I HATE MY BODY

zink supplement
trannies need more zink in their diet

>>40942050
what does it help with

>>40943681
fat loads of gum

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>>40936067 (OP)
Taking care of your eyebrows is one of the easiest and most effective ways to make you look more feminine. You can get it done at a parlor but i just do it at home.
If like me you have thick eyebrows, you can pluck the bottom of your eyebrows to visually raise the eyebrows (women have higher eyebrows on average). Then pluck the smaller hairs between, above and besides your brows to make the shape look sharper. Stick with your natural curve and just make sure it's symmetrical

>>40936067 (OP)
Glegle = forced meme

>>40948217
im genuinely thinking 4chan does nothing for themselves generally desu

im thinking of getting my hair keratin treated soon to reduce frizz. i went for HIFU recently and it was worth every penny, really lifted my cheek, jaw, and neck areas

>>40951601
do keratin treatments actually work
my hair is very frizzy

>>40951619
professional ones do yes. avoid formaldehyde formulations though.

>>40951641
oki ty

>>40941246

You're under anaesthetic it's not like you have to watch them peel the skin off your skull.

>>40941493
>laser if you aren't blonde
Electro always.
Laser is a stopgap, ultimately it's just expensive shaving.

>>40941196
r u on pioglitazone i love pioglitazone

>>40951907
No way! I want big tits. I've already got a big butt and I'm happy with my tummy.

>>40951924
take igf-1 take mk677

>>40951928
the only reason why youngshits get good breasts and midshits dont is cause of igf-1 https://hrt.fm/papers/pio and https://hrt.fm/papers/igf

>>40951945
ur body is filled with so many things and its like a bag of marbles where u can just put some stuff in and hope that it does sometning take random reseach chemcaisl

>>40951945
I'm getting pretty good breasts.

>>40952055
get better ones u can always be better

>>40951945
should i be taking creatine as a vegan late-midshit or would it be counterproductive

>>40952138
why do you think that would do anything.

>>40951945
please stop shilling that dogshit writeup. theres nothing in it to assert that its even probable that exo igf-1 is adequate to restore full growth. you can expect organ growth from it for certain over the span of years, however. that writeup is reddit tier.

>>40951945
>>40952293
>>40951928
>>40951924
on this. the reason lateshits dont get the same growth as youngshits is because of epigenetic factors. experiencing puberty methylates certain DNA involved in tissue growth and that cannot be undone. most obviously, people gain large quantities of sex specific fat during that time. growing new adipose tissue deposits as an adult is incredibly difficult due to this fact and variable insulin sensitivity in fat deposits tends to favour that old person fat look.

this is why pio is good, its one of our few tools for tipping the scales towards pubertal expression by increasing PPARy activity and aromatase expression, but even then its still fighting against your genes.

>>40952312
>>40951924
oh, and a reminder that cis girl tits are very fatty compared to tranny tits. in particular, lack of deep mammary fat content between the actual epithelial tissue is a substantial limiting factor in final size.

>>40952312
is pio not a meme
whats the downsides

>>40952373
no, it really will enable the accelerated production and enlargement of sex specific fat deposits. it is frankly a severely underrated transition med, with strong developmental effects in weight gain and with strong redistributative effects in weight loss. in what accounts we have of people taking pioglitazone with retatrutide theres talk of breasts rounding out and feminine fat pads remaining at maximal fullness while male specific fat melts away.

>whats the downsides
full list of known side effects here. keep in mind the primary utilisation for them til recently was diabetics, a group of people with elevated mortality risks generally. its unlikely we are as at risk from the aggressive stem cell recruiting effects of pioglitazone as diabetics are, and even then we can take it in cycles of 6 months to a year to recover whereas they need to be on it constantly.
https://sci-hub.ru/https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1517/14740331003623218

>>40952424
is it ever too late for pio? ive been on e for a year

>>40951601
>went for HIFU
how fucked is your face and/or how old are you to feel you need that? If you need HIFU in your 20s its joever

>>40952444
>>40952424
i would also like the answer here

>>40952491
early 30s. i had a lot of weight cycles pre-e due to unstable weight and my skin did not hold up well from volume loss. it really helped, very much worth.

>>40952444
nope, ideally you get initial breast growth done first anyway.

OP, you should consider killing yourself.

>>40953456
no u